# Banter 98: 03Dec25 Water, with Katie Clubb from Forest of Dean {% embed url="" %} ### Video Timeline: (min:sec) 00:00 - 27:57 Presentation 27:57 - 46:42 (end) Q & A *** ### Presentation: No separate slide presentation this week - Katie was all talk!! *** ### Links: [Forest of Dean Climate Action Newsletter ](https://us5.campaign-archive.com/home/?u=ab7a7e62881dc95c541265556\&id=07f67422ad)- previous editions, and how to join the mailing list [Water Literacy - Train to become Water Literate](https://waterliteracy.uk/) [Water Watch Collective: free webinar Tuesday 09Dec25 1-2pm](https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/co-design-for-empowering-collaborative-water-quality-monitoring-tickets-1652318602419?aff=oddtdtcreator) - about co-designing citizen science and improving collaborative water quality monitoring [Our Earth Week: ](https://www.mixcloud.com/DeanRadio/the-forest-lunch-box-12th-nov-2025/) the voice clips about water to which Katie refers in her presentation Feel free to contact Katie: Please note that there are other links listed in the Chat section below *** ### Meeting Summary: Dec 03, 2025 11:51 AM London ID: 834 5460 8536 ### Quick recap The meeting began with introductions and discussions about expected attendees, emphasizing the importance of participants renaming themselves on Zoom for identification purposes. Katie Clubb, who works in community climate action, shared insights from Our Earth Week, a global initiative focused on water conservation and climate action, highlighting various water-related projects and initiatives in the Forest of Dean. The group discussed water literacy training, restoration projects, and successful community engagement efforts, while also addressing concerns about non-biodegradable wet wipes and the need for public awareness to reduce environmental impact. ### Next steps * [Katie: Send newsletter (including the last one on water and the radio show link) and relevant resources to Graham for sharing in the knowledge base.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=dgsXgWjwSMGclIQzEYvcgA%3D%3D\&stepId=93b277ff-d046-11f0-abdd-c6a137978ccc) * [Cllr.Stuart: Find and share the link to the water literacy training (organised by Groundwork East) with the group.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=dgsXgWjwSMGclIQzEYvcgA%3D%3D\&stepId=93b27b5f-d046-11f0-8446-c6a137978ccc) * [Katie: Send the Sortation Foundation and Involve final reports (including process and recommendations) to interested participants.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=dgsXgWjwSMGclIQzEYvcgA%3D%3D\&stepId=93b284e5-d046-11f0-8a0d-c6a137978ccc) * [Katie: Send information about Thames 21's work on non-biodegradable wet wipes to Sue.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=dgsXgWjwSMGclIQzEYvcgA%3D%3D\&stepId=93b28634-d046-11f0-9642-c6a137978ccc) ### Summary #### River Stowe Water Testing Project The meeting began with introductions and discussions about expected attendees, noting that while 11-12 people were initially expected, the number had grown to 15. Graham emphasized the importance of participants renaming themselves on Zoom for identification purposes. Jonathan introduced a project involving water testing on the River Stowe as part of the safe haven water testing activity on the Warwickshire Avon and its tributaries. The meeting was set to continue with further introductions and discussions, though some participants were still joining. #### Our Earth Week: Water Conservation Katie Clubb, who works in community climate action for the Forest of Dean District Council, shared insights from Our Earth Week, a global initiative focused on water conservation and climate action. She highlighted the effectiveness of the week-long event in spotlighting local projects and issues related to water, such as river health, flooding, and ocean life. Katie emphasized the importance of water as a unifying topic and shared her personal passion for water conservation, drawing from her previous experience in Japan. She also discussed the impact of inland communities on ocean health and the positive engagement of young people in climate action through activities like litter collection and art projects. #### Water Conservation Advocacy Updates Katie discussed her involvement in local water quality testing initiatives with the River Avon Bathers, highlighting a film and voice message that effectively used art for advocacy. She shared insights from Earth Week water conservation efforts with youth groups, including a workshop on saving and slowing water. Katie also noted that a major employer, Sentry, has implemented water conservation measures such as boreholes and an internal campaign called "Every Drop Counts." Additionally, she mentioned a council newsletter promoting rainwater harvesting in toilet blocks across three towns. #### Water Management in Forest of Dean Katie presented on various water-related initiatives and projects in the Forest of Dean, highlighting the importance of water management and climate adaptation. She discussed a citizen visioning project that identified water management as a key priority for residents, and shared examples of successful flood prevention and water conservation efforts. Katie also explained the benefits of beaver reintroduction projects for flood management and biodiversity, and provided tips for individuals to take action on water issues. The conversation ended with a discussion about water literacy courses and the potential for future water scarcity. #### Water Projects and Community Engagement The group discussed water literacy training organized by Groundwork East and partly funded by Northumberland Water. Katie explained the details of a system visioning project funded by Innovate UK through the Fast Followers program, which involved working with climate engagement specialists Involve and the Sortation Foundation to select a representative citizen's jury. The discussion also touched on the restoration of Norfolk's ponds, highlighting their biodiversity gains and potential for presentations. #### Community Climate Action Strategies Katie shared insights from a successful community engagement project in Coleford that involved paying participants for their time and expenses to ensure a representative sample, including those not typically involved in climate work. The project framed climate action through happiness and fairness, successfully engaging the community and leading to commitments from local councils to act on recommendations within three months. Sue and Jennifer raised concerns about non-biodegradable wet wipes, with Jennifer highlighting the significant cost to Thames Water for unclogging pipes and emphasizing the need for public awareness and water literacy to reduce environmental impact. The conversation ended with an announcement of a further discussion on rural flood resilience next week. *** ### Chat: 00:26:07 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset, River Parrett survey: Interesting that runoff contributes 80% of Wye pollution. What is the dominant soil type? In the upper Parrett runoff conributes very little - unless you classify legacy phosphate pollution as runoff. We are on deep clay \ 00:37:34 Peter Bates: What was the location of beavers? \ 00:38:00 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset, River Parrett survey: Katie - can you put in the chat the details of where we can see your beavers \ 00:38:22 Julie Earp: Are we able to get a copy of your newsletter Katie? \ 00:38:57 Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: [Water Industry National Environment Programme (WINEP) | Engage Environment Agency](https://engageenvironmentagency.uk.engagementhq.com/winep) The WINEP map is a great resource for anyone interested in learning where water utilities will be focusing work - and looking for collaboration (with funding) to restore water quality and rivers. This link has a great tutorial on how to use it. \ 00:39:42 Sandra Reeve River Char: Can you say more about the Coleford citizen visioning initiative? would love to hear the voice clips \ 00:41:04 Sue Burton Battle TC: Wipes are never biodigradable/recylable because they are contaminated after use and should go into the waste stream. \ 00:41:26 Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: Who was the Water Literacy provider?
00:41:31 Jonathan Horsfield - Napton, Warwickshire: who runs the water literacy course please?
00:44:12 Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Where is the new enclosure?\ The enclosure is just off the popular walking route of Spruce Ride and is near to the Colliers Trail.\ Winter is a great time to see them while the leaves are off the trees. Visitors can also see what habitat changes the beavers have made on the forest.\ [Beavers in the Forest of Dean | Forestry England](https://www.forestryengland.uk/the-forest-dean/beavers-the-forest-dean) \ 00:45:19 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: The Water Literacy I did was organised by Groundwork East
00:46:53 Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: [Restoring, resurrecting and conserving Norfolk's ponds](https://norfolkponds.org/). This is a great resource for restoring 'ghost ponds' which are showing to have impressive biodiversity gains including rare species which are preserved within the old pond sediment as 'ancient' seed banks. These have far quicker and more diverse biodiversity gains than creating new ponds. Maybe they could do a presentation? \ 00:46:56 Jonathan Horsfield - Napton, Warwickshire: Reacted to "Restoring, resurrect..." with đź‘Ť
00:47:11 Jonathan Horsfield - Napton, Warwickshire: Reacted to "The Water Literacy I..." with đź‘Ť
00:47:27 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: [Water Literacy | Train to Become Water Literate](https://waterliteracy.uk/) \ 00:47:33 Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: Reacted to "Water Literacy | Tra..." with đź‘Ť
00:47:40 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: Will definitely ask them, Jennifer - thank you \ 00:48:23 Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: Reacted to "Will definitely ask ..." with đź‘Ť
00:49:50 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset, River Parrett survey: Interesting. I have been doing a bit of work on the 7 ponds at Stourhead (NT garden). Very high P from the springs - undetectable by the seventh pond. These are sixteenth century ponds
00:53:05 Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: Replying to "Water Industry Natio..." Linking the WINEP map to LNRS plans would be a great way of connecting key drivers for water quality, funding, and partners (including catchment partnerships) for catchment wide collaboration.
00:55:06 Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Join the boycott of non-biodegradable wet wipes: Led by [Thames 21 Plastic wet wipe ban by government is urgent - charity - BBC News](https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-law-bans-plastic-wet-wipes-to-protect-rivers-and-seas) \ 00:55:31 Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: [The plastic wet wipes issue, explained - Thames21](https://www.thames21.org.uk/2023/09/the-plastic-wet-wipes-issue-explained/) *** ### Audio-transcript (for AI indexing) 112 \ 00:11:41.810 --> 00:11:47.249 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: So, if you'd like to go ahead, please, and there are other people who can catch up from the recording later if they want to. 113 \ 00:11:47.250 --> 00:11:49.600 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Okie dokie. Sounds good, I'll kick off. 114 \ 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:59.260 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So hello everyone, my name's Katie Club. I work in community climate action in the Climate Team at the Forrester Dean District Council. 115 \ 00:11:59.270 --> 00:12:15.170 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And today I'm going to share some insights from participating in Our Earth Week, which is a global initiative run by the Community Radio Environment Network, and this year was between the 10th and the 15th of November, and the theme was all around water. 116 \ 00:12:15.180 --> 00:12:24.040 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: There were 80 participating radio stations worldwide, spotlighting issues like river health, flooding, ocean life, 117 \ 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:41.069 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And we heard from loads of local voices, from campaigners to youth groups, who all joined the conversation on conservation and climate action, and I'm going to talk about why this proved to be a really effective method of communication, and just talk about some of the projects that were involved in that week. 118 \ 00:12:41.070 --> 00:12:44.710 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And how it really helped to spotlight some of the projects. 119 \ 00:12:44.710 --> 00:12:57.759 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: across the Forest of Dean, of which I learnt there was so much going on around water, from improving rivers and watercourses, natural flood management, helping to restore natural functions and support wildlife. 120 \ 00:12:57.760 --> 00:13:18.120 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: water quality and flood resilience. So, it's such a big topic that, the more I dug into it, the more I realized, wow, there's actually so much happening, that I wasn't even aware of, and really learned how much this topic meant to people as well, and it really is a unifying topic across all of our residents. 121 \ 00:13:19.100 --> 00:13:37.100 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: and brings together, you know, fishermen, people who want… like to swim in the rivers, people are concerned, about oceans, and it really is a unifying issue, more than any other issue I've, dealt with in the kind of climate team at the Council, so… 122 \ 00:13:37.130 --> 00:13:53.960 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: It was really exciting to be able to work, on this and have a specific week that really captivated and, and catalyzed all of that action, and was a chance to share so much information, and get lots more engagement with some of these projects. 123 \ 00:13:54.240 --> 00:14:18.770 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So water, as I'm sure you're all aware, it really is the lifeblood of this planet. And I'll quickly start by introducing why I'm so passionate about water. And before that kind of came from my previous role, before this job, I was working in Japan, in Okinawa, with a charity called Churamura, which is a turtle conservation charity in 124 \ 00:14:18.770 --> 00:14:22.769 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: the Yomitan Peninsula in, Okinawa. 125 \ 00:14:22.900 --> 00:14:28.120 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And I was running summer camps for young people all around marine conservation. 126 \ 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:44.950 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And it was there that I witnessed how marine environments are some of the most fragile ecosystems in the world. I was volunteering at a coral farm where we were trying to develop bleach-resistant coral and propagating it back into an area of desertified, reef. 127 \ 00:14:44.950 --> 00:14:46.809 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And trying to rebuild that. 128 \ 00:14:47.040 --> 00:15:03.329 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And I learned recently that, we have passed the first planetary tipping point, set out in the Global Tipping Points report, which is, around coral reefs. And this is a massive wake-up call, and yeah, I saw that firsthand, how 129 \ 00:15:03.330 --> 00:15:16.679 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Rising sea temperatures are causing that bleaching of coral and the knock-on effects of the whole ecosystem, including the turtles, which we were specifically, protecting and looking at that summer. 130 \ 00:15:16.880 --> 00:15:28.359 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So that really made me motivated to, continue my work in climate action, and made me so passionate about how we can protect this environment, 131 \ 00:15:28.450 --> 00:15:48.669 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And I got this role at FIDDC, and I've brought a lot of that passion into the role. So earlier on this year, I ran a Marine Climate Action Day for Huntley Primary School as part of the EcoSchools program, and I was exploring how inland communities are so connected to ocean health still, 132 \ 00:15:48.700 --> 00:16:08.140 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: It's not just those living right by the sea that have that connection and have that responsibility to oceans. We know that what happens in our inline communities and our rivers and how we protect that has such a massive impact on our ocean health, so local issues really do have a global impact. 133 \ 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:33.160 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So, on that day, I was running, trash-free sea creature artwork and creative writing, posters, creating plastic pledges, and this really captured the imagination of those schoolchildren who were so, so excited, and at lunchtime, they all ran off to collect litter and tell me about what they'd picked up, and tell me about how much they loved, the interactions they'd had with water. 134 \ 00:16:33.160 --> 00:16:37.780 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: In their lifetime, whether that be snorkeling or swimming in local rivers and… 135 \ 00:16:37.790 --> 00:16:51.540 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: and their favourite sea creature animals as well, so it really showed that this is such a unifying kind of issue for… especially for young people who get this more than a lot of, older generation that I've spoke to. 136 \ 00:16:51.770 --> 00:17:08.549 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: I had the opportunity to go to the Blue Earth Summit in October, as part of the work around, the, our Earth Week, and here I spoke to some incredible people, 137 \ 00:17:08.550 --> 00:17:15.199 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: If you don't know, the Blue Earth Summit is a global three-day gathering that unites entrepreneurs, investors, and changemakers 138 \ 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:31.659 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: to accelerate regenerative, climate-positive solutions. And it was just incredible there to see how much action is taking place, and that gave me so much hope, despite those grim predictions that came out that morning about the first tipping point being reached around, 139 \ 00:17:31.660 --> 00:17:44.150 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Coral reefs. I learned there how… just how important oceans are, so they cover 70% of the planet, they're a carbon sink, a flood defense, a food source for billions of people, a recreation space. 140 \ 00:17:44.150 --> 00:17:58.630 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Home to most life on Earth, and the source of every second breath we take. So, if that's not enough of a reason to kind of get behind, work and support around oceans and water, then I don't know what is. 141 \ 00:17:58.730 --> 00:18:21.849 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: on that day, I was collecting voice clips, for my Our Earth Week, radio show takeover of the local Dean radio station, and I managed to speak to Chris Packham after his talk, which was so inspiring, and he gave me such a perfect little quote that, really just gave me goosebumps. So he said in his voice message to me. 142 \ 00:18:21.850 --> 00:18:31.510 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: around our Earth Week, that we're doing untold damage to our one and only home, and we have to rectify that. That sounds like a massive issue, and when you tell many people, they think. 143 \ 00:18:31.510 --> 00:18:41.169 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Well, what can I possibly do? I'm just a drop in the ocean. But you're not just a drop in the ocean, because what is an ocean but a multitude of drops? We can all make a positive difference. 144 \ 00:18:41.220 --> 00:18:58.450 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So that really stuck with me, is that you hear that phrase being used in a real negative context of, oh, I'm just a drop in the ocean, but it's so true. An ocean comes from a collection of drops, which creates a puddle, which then runs into a stream, which runs into a river, which then runs into an ocean, so… 145 \ 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:06.529 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And that ocean of change is what we really need, so we need every single person to be that drop in an ocean and create a positive difference. 146 \ 00:19:06.750 --> 00:19:21.550 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So, that was one of my biggest takeaways, and really that we all have such an impact to make. And that was something fantastic to see around our Earth Week, is just all of these people that are making such a change. 147 \ 00:19:21.660 --> 00:19:40.240 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So we heard from national and global campaigners for water, there, but I also was able to collect lots of voice messages from local advocates and local projects that are going on in the Forest of Dean, as well, which was… I was able to share through our Earth Week. 148 \ 00:19:40.280 --> 00:19:54.530 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And one of these, was a project from Queering the Y. So, earlier on in the year, I was involved with a project with the LGBTQIA plus community, and we created a community climate action plan. 149 \ 00:19:54.530 --> 00:20:01.810 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And one of the actions that came out of that was a project around water and wellbeing. And… 150 \ 00:20:01.810 --> 00:20:07.469 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: I was able to record a clip of, Sean, who was the founder of Queer Swims. 151 \ 00:20:07.470 --> 00:20:20.209 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Who talks about how this, how access to clean, safe, and inclusive blue spaces really supports mental health and belonging, and how important, that is for 152 \ 00:20:20.320 --> 00:20:33.909 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: our sense of well-being. And that's something I've experienced myself. I'm an avid wild swimmer. It's something that brings me more, kind of, calm and, 153 \ 00:20:33.910 --> 00:20:42.469 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: and perspective, I think, than anything else, that kind of submersion in cold water, and being outdoors, being really 154 \ 00:20:42.470 --> 00:20:46.910 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Like, submerged or in… in a… in a nature environment, so… 155 \ 00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:55.139 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: It was so wonderful to see that that was a project that came out of, of that project… of that, whole… whole initiative. 156 \ 00:20:55.980 --> 00:21:06.109 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Then, we also heard from campaigners from Save the Y. Rachel Bonford spoke so beautifully about her connection to, 157 \ 00:21:06.110 --> 00:21:20.350 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: the river why and why it's so important to her. My co-host on Dean Radio, from Dean Radio, Jane, did an interview with Lee Day Solicitors, who are, the solicitors… 158 \ 00:21:20.350 --> 00:21:29.189 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: solicitors taking Welsh Water and Avara Foods, to court over the river pollution around, the River Y. 159 \ 00:21:29.470 --> 00:21:36.879 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So, that was really interesting to hear, their perspective and why that's happening, and what's led to it. 160 \ 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:55.720 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: We also were able to talk about ways that local people, can get involved in, citizen science projects, and the opportunities that there are there. So, Friends of the Riverwai have lots of opportunities, to get involved in water quality testing, 161 \ 00:21:55.820 --> 00:22:05.629 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And they've got, yeah, a list of ways that you can get involved in other water projects, on the Rivers Trust as well. 162 \ 00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:17.129 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: One way that you can get involved, is as a runoff reporter. So, we know that soil runoffs from fields, into roads and rivers is a major form of pollution. 163 \ 00:22:17.130 --> 00:22:28.660 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And according to recent figures, runoff contributes to over 80% of pollution in the River Y. So observations around where runoff is taking place is a massive, 164 \ 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:41.060 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Way that local people can engage in little micro-volunteering opportunities, to get connected and feel an engagement, and feel like they're able to do something about this. 165 \ 00:22:41.060 --> 00:22:50.259 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: We know that the best way to combat climate anxiety is through action, so if there's lots of these ways that we can point people to get involved, 166 \ 00:22:50.280 --> 00:23:09.490 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: in making a difference, it also really supports their own, feeling of… of purpose, and of, being able to do something, and not just feeling stuck in kind of a, a fear and a… a… yeah, a response that they're out… they don't have any control in the situation. 167 \ 00:23:10.220 --> 00:23:26.250 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: I've also got involved in my local, water quality testing initiatives, with Conan River Bathers. So they created, an amazing film. If you haven't seen it, I'd really recommend it, Ray Von for the Avon. And… 168 \ 00:23:26.250 --> 00:23:41.639 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: one of my friends, Mrs. Meg Avon, who Married the river, also provided a fantastic, voice message clip around why she did that, and how using art and a completely different advocacy, 169 \ 00:23:41.670 --> 00:23:49.799 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: It was such an effective way of getting people engaged in, in river conservation. 170 \ 00:23:49.910 --> 00:24:06.710 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So I've been involved with testing the River Avon, which is a project funded by Surface Against Sewage, and it's been amazing to see just how that, river, again, draws so many different groups together and, and… 171 \ 00:24:06.710 --> 00:24:12.379 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Really is just an epicentre of the community, and means so much to people in different ways. 172 \ 00:24:13.530 --> 00:24:29.150 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: We also looked at, during our Earth Week, water conservation, and worked with different, youth groups on what communities and individuals can do around water conservation. So, I went to Ruadine Youth Club 173 \ 00:24:29.320 --> 00:24:43.979 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And spoke to them, and got them to talk about what they'd learned from a seven, Seven Rivers Trust workshop, around saving water and slowing water down. 174 \ 00:24:43.980 --> 00:24:53.000 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And what that meant to them. And they also provided some really, beautiful thoughts around… their thoughts around water pollution. 175 \ 00:24:53.090 --> 00:24:56.559 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And ideas of how people can save water as well. 176 \ 00:24:56.990 --> 00:25:05.089 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: We also learnt, around the work that Sumtery, who are one of our biggest, employers, and one of the biggest 177 \ 00:25:05.270 --> 00:25:15.300 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: users of water in the district, what they're doing to conserve water. And they talked about their new internal campaign around every drop counts. 178 \ 00:25:15.300 --> 00:25:28.729 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And we learnt that they have two boreholes on site, to not put pressure on local water usage. But they also have got some big goals of reducing their water usage, 179 \ 00:25:28.830 --> 00:25:39.970 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So that's really great to see how, yeah, one of the biggest, kind of, players, biggest employers, and most significant, kind of, users of water are really thinking about their water usage. 180 \ 00:25:40.090 --> 00:25:41.250 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: 2. 181 \ 00:25:41.330 --> 00:25:57.209 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: We also did some digging around what we're doing as a council, and I put out a newsletter on the same theme around, water, and, shared around an initiative of rainwater harvesting in the toilet blocks. 182 \ 00:25:57.210 --> 00:26:04.300 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So the, 3 different toilet blocks in 3 of our, towns. 183 \ 00:26:04.310 --> 00:26:09.820 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: have been, they've had water harvesting tanks added as part of improvement works. 184 \ 00:26:09.990 --> 00:26:21.179 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And this is all around, working towards resilience, in terms of future use, and we know that that's not going to be hugely, 185 \ 00:26:21.300 --> 00:26:38.070 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: impactful, but it's a start. I'm really thinking about whenever we do improvement works on facilities, how can we make positive improvements to those in terms of, yeah, climate and water, and really think about that in every kind of decision-making process. 186 \ 00:26:39.570 --> 00:26:59.229 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: I also did some reflection on how one of our biggest engagement, pieces of work really highlighted water as being an issue that residents really care about. So over the summer, we ran a citizen visioning project with, a organization called Involve, who are climate engagement specialists. 187 \ 00:26:59.250 --> 00:27:10.419 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And, using the process of sortition, we got a representative sample of 19 participants, who came up with a vision, a future vision for Coulford, for their town. 188 \ 00:27:10.570 --> 00:27:28.090 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And came up with 9 recommendations independently, having listened to, experts talking about, different climate issues, and then they formed their own ideas of what they'd like to see happen in the future. And it was really encouraging to see that water management was one of their top priorities. 189 \ 00:27:28.090 --> 00:27:47.689 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And this was around flood risk, but also about drought and conserving water. So they are keen to see water butts provided, to see more education, around efficient use of water, and also to, see less leaks. 190 \ 00:27:47.690 --> 00:27:49.020 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: from… 191 \ 00:27:49.080 --> 00:28:02.750 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: the water companies. So, again, really interesting to see that this is something that our residents really care about, and that backs up some of the work that, yeah, we're doing to focus on water as an issue. 192 \ 00:28:02.930 --> 00:28:04.290 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: in the district. 193 \ 00:28:04.730 --> 00:28:11.729 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Flood preparedness and nature-based solutions are incredibly important to people, 194 \ 00:28:11.730 --> 00:28:27.339 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: this time last year, we saw some terrible flooding in Lidney, which affected many, many hundreds of people and businesses, some of which still haven't managed to reopen after devastating floods from almost a year ago. 195 \ 00:28:27.490 --> 00:28:40.609 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: We also saw flooding in Monmouth just a couple of weeks ago after a major incident was declared following Storm Claudia, and that caused the River Mono to reach record levels, submerging homes and businesses. 196 \ 00:28:40.620 --> 00:28:50.719 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And I saw some of our local campaigners involved in Save the Y live streaming, this disaster on social media in the middle of the night, and 197 \ 00:28:50.720 --> 00:29:00.859 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: it really made my brain go to, a viral tweet that was circling earlier this year, which came off… came out off the back of the Los Angeles wildfires. 198 \ 00:29:00.860 --> 00:29:11.379 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And that was that climate change will manifest itself as a series of disasters, viewed through phones with footage that gets closer and closer to home until you live 199 \ 00:29:11.590 --> 00:29:14.439 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Until you are the one filming it. 200 \ 00:29:14.450 --> 00:29:27.460 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And when I was watching this happening on a Saturday morning on social media, someone I know recording their high street that was completely underwater, cars floating downstream, someone trapped in an alleyway. 201 \ 00:29:27.470 --> 00:29:39.020 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: it really felt like that, that this… the climate crisis has reached our doorstep now in the form of flooding. We're seeing how hundreds of people have already lost their lives in Indonesia, 202 \ 00:29:39.070 --> 00:29:46.510 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: it's not just an issue that's happening on the other side of the world, it is happening here and now in our communities. And so… 203 \ 00:29:46.620 --> 00:29:59.619 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: this is… this is why I think flooding is really kind of top of people's, mind, in terms of… of terms of issues that we need to focus on. So preparing for heavy rainfall and flooding. 204 \ 00:29:59.770 --> 00:30:13.850 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And, as part of climate adaptation and resilience planning. So, we have done a lot of work around this in the last year. I ran a climate adaptation workshop for town and parish councils, and we launched a 205 \ 00:30:13.850 --> 00:30:27.550 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Town and Parish Council Climate Adaptation Fund, which has just recently closed, and we had, about 5 applications, and one of them was around tackling flooding, 206 \ 00:30:27.710 --> 00:30:41.449 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: In the town center. So, we're really looking and trying to educate, and upskill, our town and parish councillors to understand how this is such 207 \ 00:30:41.650 --> 00:30:54.600 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: a pressing issue, and to understand what they can do, where to look for for funding, and also inspire them of some amazing projects that are out there, that they can kind of take advantage of and, 208 \ 00:30:54.640 --> 00:31:08.010 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: and copy. There's a great project that took place in Cinderford that was work done by the Gloucestershire Wildlife Trust, to put in, local SUDs, so Sustainable 209 \ 00:31:08.010 --> 00:31:19.339 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: urban drainage systems, and there's a beautiful mural that's, outside where these suds are, and I went to visit them, and did some 210 \ 00:31:19.490 --> 00:31:29.659 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: kind of journalism, I guess, around those SUDs as part of our Earth Week. And if you haven't looked into SUDs before, it's really interesting. There's kind of… 211 \ 00:31:29.860 --> 00:31:45.209 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Guttering that's attached to a building that then, drains into a series of, like, planters, which have different layers of, materials that slow down, 212 \ 00:31:45.310 --> 00:31:54.480 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: water and absorb it, so some kind of small, really aerated, like, rock materials, and then different layers of sand and, 213 \ 00:31:54.950 --> 00:31:57.509 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And soil, and then your… 214 \ 00:31:57.660 --> 00:32:04.309 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: plants on top to create a bit of, like, a wetland garden. And they look really, effective, and part of 215 \ 00:32:04.390 --> 00:32:23.429 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: greening and beautifying, areas. So, look to how we can bring in more, initiatives like that to slow down, water, and then look at, kind of, things like depaving initiatives to, again, slow water down from reaching storm, drains. So there's lots and lots of 216 \ 00:32:23.830 --> 00:32:43.629 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: schemes that you can look into, and try and fund. So, we're looking at how we can support work like that going forwards and, both adapt to future climate, impacts at the same time as, doing work around mitigation, because we know that both of those now have to be done at the same time. 217 \ 00:32:44.540 --> 00:32:49.930 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So, as well as those kind of solutions, there's 218 \ 00:32:50.010 --> 00:33:01.720 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: nature-based solutions, that are taking place. I was really lucky enough to go to the NEP Rewilding Estate and talk to their, chief ecologist, Mattie Phelps, about 219 \ 00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:11.890 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: what NEP are doing around, water. If you haven't heard of NEP, you must check out the film and book called Wilding. It's a flagship 220 \ 00:33:12.010 --> 00:33:18.829 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: project around rewilding in the UK, where a 4,000-acre dairy farm was rewilded, 221 \ 00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:31.860 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: into… and giving back to nature, and it's just a fantastic project. And they're doing so much around water on site, so, like, re-wiggling, streams and, and watercourses. 222 \ 00:33:31.860 --> 00:33:41.760 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And, they've got a beaver project there, which is awesome, and so they're just waiting on a license, from Natural England before they're able to release 223 \ 00:33:41.770 --> 00:33:59.320 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: their beavers, of which they have now six, I believe, in an enclosure, and there's already evidence of how much, benefit they've had, and they can create millions of pounds, worth of, flood, kind of, defences 224 \ 00:33:59.320 --> 00:34:11.779 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: in an incredibly short space of time, in a matter of weeks, what… in terms of comparatively, what have cost millions of pounds over years. So they really are, like, the kind of… 225 \ 00:34:12.040 --> 00:34:14.889 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Peak king of, of natural, 226 \ 00:34:14.929 --> 00:34:34.320 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: kind of flood management, and we also know… we also know, there is a beaver project taking place in the Forest of Dean as well, which is really exciting. So, since, yeah, learning about what's happening in NEP, I've looked into what's going on in the Forest of Dean, more as well. 227 \ 00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:49.969 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And learned that beavers are ecosystem engineers, and they work to slow down the flow of water using their dams during heavy rainfall, and then they release it slowly during the dry periods, so it reduces ecological impacts of drought. 228 \ 00:34:49.969 --> 00:34:57.029 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: They also create larger areas of wetlands. And one of the things that the, 229 \ 00:34:57.030 --> 00:35:10.689 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: ecologist told me was that if you want to increase biodiversity, just add water. It's the most effective, quickest way to increase biodiversity. So, that applies to your garden as well, or, an area of 230 \ 00:35:10.950 --> 00:35:14.290 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: You know, green space at your work's… workplace. 231 \ 00:35:14.290 --> 00:35:34.090 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: I did the same in my garden after I learned this. I just added… I've got a very small garden, but, dug into the ground, a bucket, kind of, just this big kind of thing. And yeah, I found some pondweed from another local pond that I put in it, and just seeing how much life there is, if you just study it for 5 minutes, you'll see there's… 232 \ 00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:50.829 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: hundreds of different little… couldn't even tell you what, creatures and, and forms of life and frogs and stuff that be… get drawn to that, so that's something to take away. Doesn't matter how big it is, but just adding water is such a key, way to increase biodiversity. 233 \ 00:35:51.040 --> 00:36:02.369 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And yeah, so here in the Forest of Dean, Forestry England and Natural England are working together with experts at the Beaver Trust to introduce beavers, within enclosures. 234 \ 00:36:02.370 --> 00:36:19.399 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: They've been monitoring changes that take place, as a result of, the beavers' work, changes to biodiversity, habitats, water quality, and flow rates. And then they'll be looking, there's studies being done about where they might, try and introduce them in the future. 235 \ 00:36:19.590 --> 00:36:41.319 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And if you do want to come and visit the Forest of Dina if you're in the area, and you want to try and take a look at them, the enclosure is just off a popular walking route, called Spruce Ride, and near the Colliers Cycle Trail. And winter is a very good time to try and see them, because, like, leaves have all fallen off the trees, so you can sneak a peek at them a bit easier. 236 \ 00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:50.829 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So yeah, do come and see if you can get a glimpse of them, and you can see some of the habitat changes in the enclosure, that they've already contributed to. 237 \ 00:36:51.040 --> 00:37:02.159 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So, really, really interesting, and really cool to see that, these reintroduction projects are, happening all over the country now, because, 238 \ 00:37:02.310 --> 00:37:18.870 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: institutions can see the value of, beavers and just how much, they can benefit, our wildlife, our biodiversity, but also, our towns and cities as a result by, reducing flood impacts. 239 \ 00:37:19.170 --> 00:37:21.400 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So, yeah, power to the beavers. 240 \ 00:37:21.600 --> 00:37:29.570 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So, that's just a kind of whistle-stop tour of all of the, projects that I've, kind of. 241 \ 00:37:29.820 --> 00:37:44.779 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: highlighted as part of our Earth Week, that are taking place across the Forest of Dean. But I want to leave you with, the thought that water really does connect us all. It's a thread linking life, community, and climate. 242 \ 00:37:44.780 --> 00:37:55.770 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And there's so many ways that we can take action around water, so I'm sure lots of the work that you're doing is around water, but in your individual lives, or, 243 \ 00:37:55.770 --> 00:38:10.230 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: You can build ponds and mini wetlands, as I mentioned, harvest rainwater, reduce home water usage, reduce fish consumption, reduce single-use plastics, join boycotts of, things like non-biodegradable wet wipes. 244 \ 00:38:10.230 --> 00:38:23.270 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Support river cleanups in your community, and getting involved in monitoring groups, and simply sharing the work of other groups, and individuals across the country and across the world. 245 \ 00:38:23.270 --> 00:38:34.370 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So there really is so much you can do, and if you ever hear people saying, what can I do, I'm just one person, I don't know where to start, really try and list off some of those ways, because everyone has 246 \ 00:38:34.370 --> 00:38:47.980 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: such, a potential to create such a positive impact, and we all have responsibility for acting, on climate to protect our, our environment, but also, 247 \ 00:38:47.980 --> 00:38:51.079 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Ourselves and, and people, planet. 248 \ 00:38:51.080 --> 00:39:01.550 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So I hope that's been interesting. If you've got any questions, I'm more than happy to, yeah, to answer. I've also got an incredibly large, 249 \ 00:39:01.730 --> 00:39:21.480 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: resource library of all of these voice messages that I've, collected from national, global, and local campaigners and advocates. So, if you do want access to those, I might have to try and just get permissions first, but I'm sure everyone will be happy to, for me to share that, and then you can use them 250 \ 00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:23.290 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: If you're, 251 \ 00:39:23.290 --> 00:39:38.149 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: doing your own talks or, engagement work around water, we can help spread the word and make sure that we're all thinking about water, not just in these weeks, like our Earth Week, but it's something that we think about throughout the year. 252 \ 00:39:39.070 --> 00:39:40.480 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Thank you very much. 253 \ 00:39:41.020 --> 00:39:42.100 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: Wow. 254 \ 00:39:42.160 --> 00:39:51.539 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: Well done, Katie. That was, probably the only time I've gone through a thousand topics in one half-hour period. So… 255 \ 00:39:51.540 --> 00:40:15.690 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: To reassure everybody, we are recording this, and Zoom will break down everything you've said into a list of items and clues and links, and we'll try and work with you to get people's questions answered, because I'm sure there are going to be plenty of them. But thank you so much for that. It was really reassuring to hear what people are up to. I would draw your attention to a couple of questions in the chat. 256 \ 00:40:15.690 --> 00:40:23.930 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: If you've not seen them yet, and also, Stuart is first off the mark to ask you a question, so let's give it to Stuart, please. 257 \ 00:40:23.930 --> 00:40:24.540 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Mmm. 258 \ 00:40:24.540 --> 00:40:28.330 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Hi, I'd just like to say thanks very much. 259 \ 00:40:28.860 --> 00:40:32.979 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: As Graham said, you covered a hell of a lot of, 260 \ 00:40:33.990 --> 00:40:39.559 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: topics there, what relates to water. And I quite agree with you. I've, 261 \ 00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:42.349 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Now done a water literacy course. 262 \ 00:40:42.640 --> 00:40:46.550 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Which I didn't know existed before I did it. 263 \ 00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:47.760 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: with. 264 \ 00:40:48.310 --> 00:40:50.579 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: It's similar to the carbon literacy. 265 \ 00:40:50.890 --> 00:40:51.480 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Yeah. 266 \ 00:40:51.670 --> 00:40:56.640 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: But one of the main things they teach you is water conservation. 267 \ 00:40:56.820 --> 00:40:58.810 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: How much we waste water. 268 \ 00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:03.009 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And how much, embedded water there is in… 269 \ 00:41:03.010 --> 00:41:05.020 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Everything we, buy. 270 \ 00:41:05.290 --> 00:41:05.990 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Yes. 271 \ 00:41:07.020 --> 00:41:12.819 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I'd just like to make one comment, and that was on your list of things the ocean does for us. 272 \ 00:41:13.100 --> 00:41:17.350 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Yeah. You didn't say it acts as a thermal buffer. 273 \ 00:41:17.680 --> 00:41:26.700 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: And has, in fact, absorbed over half of the excess heating, which has been induced by climate change. 274 \ 00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:28.810 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Wow, yeah. 275 \ 00:41:29.100 --> 00:41:31.170 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: And I also… 276 \ 00:41:31.630 --> 00:41:38.110 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I'd like to ask you about… there was quite a big bit in The Guardian, either yesterday or day before. 277 \ 00:41:38.370 --> 00:41:42.310 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: About how we are actually going to run out of fresh water. 278 \ 00:41:42.660 --> 00:41:43.580 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Yep. 279 \ 00:41:43.860 --> 00:41:48.530 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: 2030 seems to be… 280 \ 00:41:49.120 --> 00:41:56.889 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: A point that we're getting towards, where we're going to be something like 50 billion liters a day short of water. 281 \ 00:41:57.550 --> 00:41:59.079 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Some enormous amounts. 282 \ 00:41:59.520 --> 00:42:05.780 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Anyway, thank you very much for that, that was great, and as somebody put in the chat. 283 \ 00:42:06.030 --> 00:42:08.660 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Would you be able to circulate your newsletters? 284 \ 00:42:09.090 --> 00:42:23.909 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Yeah, absolutely! Yeah, I'd love to, especially, yeah, the last one, which was on water and has, yeah, lots of information, and also has, the link to the radio show that I did, if you want to listen, back to that, and it has some of those voice clips in it. 285 \ 00:42:23.910 --> 00:42:30.289 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So, yeah, I'll do that. I'll send that… maybe I'll send that to Graham, along with some… 286 \ 00:42:30.290 --> 00:42:32.739 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: in the naughty Straits, maybe I'll be able to pick it up. 287 \ 00:42:33.070 --> 00:42:35.739 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Yeah, perfect. Yeah, that sounds great, thank you. 288 \ 00:42:35.740 --> 00:42:44.570 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: You've got plenty of questions, in the chat, speaking about how can people see the beavers, and then follow up on some of the links that you suggested. 289 \ 00:42:44.570 --> 00:42:47.650 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Yes, yeah, I don't know about… 290 \ 00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:57.470 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: dominant soil type, I'm afraid. I'm definitely not an expert in that. In the upper parrot runoff, countries, very little, unless you classified leap. 291 \ 00:42:58.280 --> 00:42:59.110 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: I've seen this last week. 292 \ 00:42:59.380 --> 00:43:07.569 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Okay, interesting. Yeah, I… I don't know the answer to… to that question, but I know that we had a, 293 \ 00:43:08.380 --> 00:43:13.329 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: an event recently that was called Water in Our Forest, and we had. 294 \ 00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:28.960 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Forestry England and the Environment Agency, talking there, and they talked a lot about the geology of the Forest of Dean and how that, contributes to things like runoff, and… and issues around water. So. 295 \ 00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:46.810 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: there's people that I could ask, that question off if you're interested. I'll make a note of that, but yeah, not… not an expert on… well, not an expert on any of this, really, just, someone that's very passionate. The only thing I'm really an expert on is turtles, but… 296 \ 00:43:47.100 --> 00:43:48.080 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: Bye. 297 \ 00:43:48.160 --> 00:43:59.470 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Yeah, I'm very much a generalist and an enthusiastic supporter, and a connector of everyone together, I think. Location of the beavers, I'll… 298 \ 00:43:59.750 --> 00:44:03.520 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: put that in the chat. Yeah, so that's… 299 \ 00:44:04.600 --> 00:44:14.490 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: just off the Colliers Bike Trail. There's a link here that you can… Find them. 300 \ 00:44:15.260 --> 00:44:22.189 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And then… yeah, newsletter, I will get the link for. 301 \ 00:44:23.600 --> 00:44:26.390 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Water Industry National Environment Programme. 302 \ 00:44:26.970 --> 00:44:29.900 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Oh, that's cool. Learning about… 303 \ 00:44:29.900 --> 00:44:30.580 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: That one. 304 \ 00:44:31.080 --> 00:44:32.710 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Looking for collaboration. 305 \ 00:44:33.610 --> 00:44:37.360 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Oh, that's fabulous. And would… 306 \ 00:44:37.810 --> 00:44:41.560 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: The water literacy training sounds really interesting, 307 \ 00:44:42.170 --> 00:44:46.010 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Councillor Stewart, would you be able to put a link, 308 \ 00:44:46.350 --> 00:44:52.610 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: To that at all, because that would be really great to share, with our councillors. 309 \ 00:44:54.870 --> 00:44:57.409 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: Stuart, do you happen to have that data available? 310 \ 00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:05.370 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: Busy investigating already. 311 \ 00:45:07.350 --> 00:45:08.680 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: You're on mute, Stuart. 312 \ 00:45:14.020 --> 00:45:21.689 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I don't have a link at the moment, but I'll see if I can find it, but I think it was organised by Groundwork East. 313 \ 00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:27.080 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Partly funded by… I've got a feeling it's Northumberland water. 314 \ 00:45:27.950 --> 00:45:29.230 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Okay. 315 \ 00:45:29.420 --> 00:45:30.260 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: Okay, good. 316 \ 00:45:35.120 --> 00:45:39.930 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Awesome. And Coldford System Visioning, Sandra, yeah. 317 \ 00:45:40.140 --> 00:45:43.570 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: What would you… what would you like to know more about that? 318 \ 00:45:43.570 --> 00:45:45.719 \ Sandra Reeve River Char: Yeah, I just didn't… sorry. 319 \ 00:45:46.070 --> 00:45:47.170 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Let it go, go on, sorry. 320 \ 00:45:47.170 --> 00:45:53.290 \ Sandra Reeve River Char: I just didn't quite catch, A, I was wondering if the council had funded it, and… 321 \ 00:45:53.740 --> 00:46:04.850 \ Sandra Reeve River Char: be… I think you said MBOLD, that you… so that you brought… I'm just interested in the practicalities of how it happened, and then how… how you selected, or the… how it was sole selected, the people that came. 322 \ 00:46:05.020 --> 00:46:24.439 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Yeah, yeah, so it was, funded through Innovate UK, so it wasn't directly funded by the Council, yeah, it was Innovate UK funding, through the Fast Followers Program, if you're aware of that. So… 323 \ 00:46:25.270 --> 00:46:31.299 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: it… and then we worked with Involve, who are, climate engagement specialists. 324 \ 00:46:31.300 --> 00:46:31.760 \ Sandra Reeve River Char: Oh, man. 325 \ 00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:45.259 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And they did the think tank around, the big piece of work, across the country around getting people's thoughts around, climate, and they did a big, like, the YouTube, 326 \ 00:46:45.350 --> 00:46:54.619 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: well, there was a TV show that aired around it. They're amazing, really, really, if anyone has the opportunity to involve, they're fabulous. And then through… 327 \ 00:46:54.710 --> 00:47:08.310 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: with Involve, they partner with the Sortition Foundation, who do that, getting a representative, like, citizen's jury. So, to do that, we… they sent… they… they… 328 \ 00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:11.219 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: I took, took all of that in-house. 329 \ 00:47:11.240 --> 00:47:19.710 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And they sent out letters to every single person in the town, inviting them to apply. 330 \ 00:47:19.710 --> 00:47:34.879 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And then, in a questionnaire, they had to complete a questionnaire, which included their, kind of, socioeconomic background, their thoughts around climate change, their civic engagement, their age, their… 331 \ 00:47:34.890 --> 00:47:38.039 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Whereabouts they lived, all of that data, and then… 332 \ 00:47:38.260 --> 00:47:39.889 \ Sandra Reeve River Char: That was… 333 \ 00:47:39.970 --> 00:47:46.760 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: They did something clever with that, and then basically looked at the, 334 \ 00:47:46.900 --> 00:47:54.819 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: the representation of Colford as a place, and then they got a representative sample of people. 335 \ 00:47:54.820 --> 00:47:55.210 \ Sandra Reeve River Char: Yes. 336 \ 00:47:55.210 --> 00:48:01.189 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: that represented the makeup of Calford, but that was kind of equal of, like. 337 \ 00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:11.740 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Equal spread of, like, men and women and, like, you know, all of those different factors that we, looked at in the questionnaire were… were represented. 338 \ 00:48:11.740 --> 00:48:31.560 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So it wasn't the idea of that, and which is, I think, one of the biggest successes of that project, that it wasn't just the usual suspects. Yeah. So it was really working with people that had never been involved in any climate, work before. But the advantage was that they were paid for their time, and 339 \ 00:48:31.560 --> 00:48:33.000 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: That's what… 340 \ 00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:34.839 \ Sandra Reeve River Char: Sorry, the participants were paid… 341 \ 00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:48.140 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Participants were paid for their time and their expenses, childcare, travel, everything, and they were fed and everything. So that, I think, was how we were able to get such a… 342 \ 00:48:48.160 --> 00:49:07.500 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: yeah, a representative view, and reach people that hadn't been involved before. And then we also didn't put climate at the center of the question. We had a bit of a Trojan horse, so the question they were asked was around, how do we create a fair and happy Colford whilst responding to the 343 \ 00:49:07.500 --> 00:49:12.360 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: challenges of climate change. So it was… happiness and fairness was 344 \ 00:49:12.380 --> 00:49:14.769 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: The… the thing that we're focused on. 345 \ 00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:30.680 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: and then responding to climate change, was, like, how we did it. So, really bringing in that kind of co-benefits piece to climate… to climate action, which was… we've adopted as our way of working around climate in the Forest of Dean, because 346 \ 00:49:30.680 --> 00:49:38.869 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: It is an area that has a lot of, indices of multiple deprivation. There's a lot of, reasons why people can't 347 \ 00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:55.270 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: kind of have climate as top of their priority list, because they've got to focus on, you know, putting food on the table, and paying the bills, and really struggling cost of living crises, and mental health and well-being, and so, really. 348 \ 00:49:55.440 --> 00:50:02.880 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Not focusing on climate at the forefront has been really beneficial, and actually bringing nature and climate together 349 \ 00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:17.720 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And water is involved in that, because nature and water and all those things are so much less politicized, unfortunately, now than climate is, it's meant that we've got a lot more engagement, and people are a lot more. 350 \ 00:50:17.720 --> 00:50:25.160 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Able to see how it affects them, and how it's a local issue, rather than an abstract kind of global issue of… 351 \ 00:50:25.220 --> 00:50:30.249 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: You know, a polar bear being sad because it's ice caps smelling. 352 \ 00:50:30.250 --> 00:50:30.780 \ Sandra Reeve River Char: Okay. 353 \ 00:50:30.780 --> 00:50:38.170 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So, it… it really is… it's close to home, it's like, people are able to actually, yeah, really engage with it, so… 354 \ 00:50:38.300 --> 00:50:41.890 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: It was a really fantastic project, actually. 355 \ 00:50:41.890 --> 00:50:45.530 \ Sandra Reeve River Char: It's amazing in terms of community engagement, because that's kind of what we really. 356 \ 00:50:45.530 --> 00:50:46.050 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: struggle. 357 \ 00:50:46.050 --> 00:50:47.120 \ Sandra Reeve River Char: with still. 358 \ 00:50:48.790 --> 00:50:52.200 \ Sandra Reeve River Char: And could you just say the name of the people who did the… 359 \ 00:50:52.200 --> 00:50:53.480 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Yeah, that goes. 360 \ 00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:54.540 \ Sandra Reeve River Char: together. 361 \ 00:50:54.540 --> 00:50:57.730 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: They're called… oh, the Sortician Foundation, and then involve. 362 \ 00:50:57.730 --> 00:50:59.190 \ Sandra Reeve River Char: Right. 363 \ 00:50:59.190 --> 00:51:17.810 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Wattition Foundation. I can send you the, I can send everyone the final report, if you're interested, that talks about the process, talks about how it happened, and the recommendations. Yeah, I'm more than happy to kind of, yeah, give more information. The only thing is. 364 \ 00:51:17.810 --> 00:51:25.190 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: On the other positive of it is that we got the town and the district council to agree that 365 \ 00:51:25.190 --> 00:51:29.319 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: To act on the recommendations that come out of it before. 366 \ 00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:48.569 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So, not to agree to take everything forwards and promise that they can do everything, but at least agree to acknowledge, and where they can't do something, say why, and then signpost to different people, but to respond, so they acknowledge that they have to respond within 3 months of getting the report. So that's really helped to embed it 367 \ 00:51:48.570 --> 00:51:50.590 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: And actually it not… 368 \ 00:51:50.610 --> 00:52:06.519 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: not just being a kind of talking shop and, like, actually embed what comes out of it into our council plans and policies and action for the future. So I've learned a lot from that piece in terms of what effective engagement looks like and how to really embed what comes out of it. 369 \ 00:52:06.520 --> 00:52:22.980 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: in, yeah, in future projects. The only thing is, now it's almost set a precedent that people get paid for involvement, and I think people should get paid, because they've put a lot of time and, you know, and effort into it, and it's really made me think, how do we remunerate 370 \ 00:52:23.120 --> 00:52:32.100 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: People who get involved in climate and share their thoughts, because we are… we do ask a lot of people, and they really need to be 371 \ 00:52:32.340 --> 00:52:34.090 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: supported if… 372 \ 00:52:34.220 --> 00:52:47.559 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: in order to get a representative sample, otherwise you do just get the same people involved who are really passionate. So yeah, there's lots of learning from that project. I could, yeah, talk to you more about it in the future if you'd like, but… 373 \ 00:52:47.560 --> 00:52:49.490 \ Sandra Reeve River Char: Thank you, that's really helpful. 374 \ 00:52:49.890 --> 00:52:51.000 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: problem. 375 \ 00:52:51.470 --> 00:52:54.069 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: Can we move on to Sue Burton, please? 376 \ 00:52:54.070 --> 00:53:02.970 \ Sue Burton Battle TC: Yeah, hello. Thank you, Katie. Just a side, really, you mentioned about, making sure that wipes were recyclable. 377 \ 00:53:02.970 --> 00:53:17.130 \ Sue Burton Battle TC: I wasn't keen on that, because I think all wipes, they should be made of recyclable material, but they are contaminated, and they need to go in the bin, and I… 378 \ 00:53:17.130 --> 00:53:23.619 \ Sue Burton Battle TC: Don't really think there's an emphasis on whether it is or isn't recyclable, because it's no good. 379 \ 00:53:23.990 --> 00:53:33.280 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Yes, that I… just to clarify, I don't mean recycling wet wipes, not at all. No, it's about biodegradable, not recyclable. Does it mean? 380 \ 00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:41.480 \ Sue Burton Battle TC: Sorry, does it matter if they're not biodegradable if they are going to go in the waste stream, which mainly is incinerated? 381 \ 00:53:42.340 --> 00:53:50.359 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: It does, yeah, it does matter, especially for water, especially for getting, clogged in pipes, and 382 \ 00:53:50.360 --> 00:54:05.009 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: So, there's a really interesting piece of work, and one of the, voice clips I did at the Blue Earth Summit with an organization called Thames21, and they are leading the, campaign around 383 \ 00:54:05.010 --> 00:54:09.500 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Making non-biodegradable wet wipes 384 \ 00:54:09.500 --> 00:54:20.059 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: illegal and banning them. And they've got some fantastic data to back up why, and just how many, non-biodegradable wet wipes are 385 \ 00:54:20.310 --> 00:54:31.110 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: washed up on beaches, and clogging up rivers, and spreading into, you know, millions of microplastics, because of what they're made of. So it's a very… 386 \ 00:54:31.110 --> 00:54:31.770 \ Sue Burton Battle TC: Yeah. 387 \ 00:54:31.770 --> 00:54:41.930 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: easy, small switch that… that we can make. We shouldn't… they shouldn't be flushed down the toilet anyway, but unfortunately, they are, and… and that's… 388 \ 00:54:42.190 --> 00:54:51.339 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: a way that we can, reduce the impact there, but let… I can send you, yeah, the work that Thames21 are doing around it, and that will be. 389 \ 00:54:51.340 --> 00:54:51.770 \ Sue Burton Battle TC: Thank you. 390 \ 00:54:51.770 --> 00:54:53.179 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Yeah, so I'm. 391 \ 00:54:53.180 --> 00:54:57.379 \ Sue Burton Battle TC: Thank you for explaining that. That really makes sense now. Thank you. 392 \ 00:54:57.380 --> 00:54:58.200 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: No problem. 393 \ 00:54:58.200 --> 00:54:58.820 \ Sue Burton Battle TC: Yeah. 394 \ 00:54:59.450 --> 00:55:03.310 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: Is there anybody else who has a question for Katie, please? 395 \ 00:55:03.450 --> 00:55:27.580 \ Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: Can I just add to the wet wipes real quick? Because I've just started a role with, Thames Water, and discovered that, we spend about 20 million pounds, unclogging pipes that are impacted, mainly as a result of wet wipes being flushed down the toilet. So even the biodegradable, flushable ones are not, and will continue to add to the problem. 396 \ 00:55:27.580 --> 00:55:29.080 \ Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: But, 397 \ 00:55:29.140 --> 00:55:46.290 \ Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: I think one of the, one of my colleagues pointed out that, their granddaughter was being, you know, was having wet wipes, flushable wet wipes used, and the mother was saying it's really great because you can flush them down the toilet, but it says on the packaging that you flush one wet wipe 398 \ 00:55:46.410 --> 00:55:57.119 \ Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: per toilet flush. So if you think about the water usage involved in that, if you use 3 to wipe a baby's bottom, you know, that's 3 toilet flushes that you've just engaged. 399 \ 00:55:57.120 --> 00:56:02.140 \ Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: You know, I think the real question is, why do we need to use them? And we don't. 400 \ 00:56:02.140 --> 00:56:27.110 \ Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: you know, use toilet paper and, you know, flush that down the toilet, because nothing other than poo, pee and paper and puke should ever go down the toilet. And what could we do with that 20 million pounds if we weren't using it to unplug toilets? We could be using that for river restoration and all of that, so we really need to engage the public, I think. You know, especially for Thames Water, there's a lot 401 \ 00:56:27.110 --> 00:56:36.879 \ Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: of backlash and, you know, negative media. But actually, it comes down to… and I, you know, this is also coming from me as a former, you know, community outreach 402 \ 00:56:36.880 --> 00:57:01.160 \ Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: officer for the Evenload Catchment Partnership. We flush those toilets, we pour stuff down our drains, we pour down meat, grease, and all sorts that adds to these blockages. And if we actually were more aware of our impact individually, then we could make a huge difference on the water quality overall. So that's why I was really interested in knowing more about the water and literacy. 403 \ 00:57:01.160 --> 00:57:07.720 \ Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: Because obviously, from Tim's water point of view, we can't go out there and say to people, oh, it's your fault, you know. 404 \ 00:57:07.720 --> 00:57:08.270 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Good evening. 405 \ 00:57:08.270 --> 00:57:15.359 \ Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: Because there is a responsibility within Thames to upgrade their systems and all that, but it needs to really, really 406 \ 00:57:16.780 --> 00:57:23.019 \ Jennifer Lanham - Catchment Coordinator Thames Water: all have to share that responsibility. So, yeah, I'm really interested in that water literacy course. 407 \ 00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:29.309 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Thank you so much, Jennifer, yeah, said perfectly. That was great, great. 408 \ 00:57:29.990 --> 00:57:30.750 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: to… 409 \ 00:57:30.750 --> 00:57:33.850 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: Any other points that people haven't managed to raise yet, please? 410 \ 00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:50.029 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: Okay, well, no one's waving or shouting at me that I can see, so… Katie, thank you again for a most reassuring document. It's lovely to hear how many people around the world are taking part in doing something to restore the planet to health. 411 \ 00:57:50.140 --> 00:58:04.600 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: It's very up… uplifting. So, thank you very much indeed, that was wonderful, and we're all grateful to you. Next week, we are doing a further-on discussion, if you will, on… 412 \ 00:58:04.930 --> 00:58:25.319 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Isle of Wight: Rural Flood Resilience Partnership. So, Paul Dixon from ACO is going to come and talk about a lot of the subjects that we talked about today, what you can do about them to make the country more resilient to the needs for water. So, do please join us again this time next week, and in the meantime, thank you all so much, and Katie, thank you very much indeed. Take care. 413 \ 00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:27.200 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Thanks very much. 414 \ 00:58:27.200 --> 00:58:29.150 \ Sue Burton Battle TC: Katie, bye, bye. 415 \ 00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:30.460 \ Katie Clubb - FoDDC Speaker on Water: Hello, bye-bye! --- # Agent Instructions: Querying This Documentation If you need additional information that is not directly available in this page, you can query the documentation dynamically by asking a question. Perform an HTTP GET request on the current page URL with the `ask` query parameter: ``` GET https://wiki.greatcollaboration.uk/knowledgebase/events/banter-sessions-inc-table-of-all-sessions/banter-98-03dec25-water-with-katie-clubb-from-forest-of-dean.md?ask= ``` The question should be specific, self-contained, and written in natural language. The response will contain a direct answer to the question and relevant excerpts and sources from the documentation. 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