Becky introduced us to the successes - and pitfalls - of a community coming together to strive for a healthier and greener future.
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Mar 19, 2025 11:59 AM London ID: 834 5460 8536
The meeting featured a presentation by Becky on the Green and Healthy Frome project, which aims to promote sustainability and health in the town of Frome through various initiatives and community engagement strategies. Discussions centered around the project's successes, challenges, and future plans, including the residency model, community involvement, and potential partnerships. The conversation ended with conversations about engaging young people, eco-friendly practices, and the importance of understanding different audiences in climate change communication.
Actions:
Becky to send her presentation to Graham Stoddart Jones.
Andrew to ensure Becky is added to the circulation list for future Great Collaboration sessions.
Claudine to coordinate a potential study visit/tour to Frome for the parish and town councils in her focus group.
Interested participants to sign up for the Green and Healthy Frome conference on November 25th by emailing Becky.
Interested participants to look up and potentially engage with the River of Flowers project for community involvement.
Interested participants to explore the Cornwall Greener Practice Network emails for insights on community health networks.
Frome Market Town Presentation
Becky joins the meeting to present about green and healthy Frome. She experiences some technical difficulties with her video but successfully shares her presentation slides. Becky mentions that the presentation is similar to one she gave recently to the National Association of Local Councils, but assures the group that they will have more time for discussion afterward. She begins by introducing Frome as a market town in Somerset.
Frome's History, Culture, and Sustainability
Becky discussed the town of Frome, highlighting its history, culture, and natural beauty. She noted that the town has a high population and is known for its welcoming atmosphere. Becky also mentioned that the town has a large medical practice that is a national leader in sustainability in primary care. She further discussed a recent development in the town, where a large brownfield site was sold to a local community group, May Day, Saxonville, instead of a national developer. Becky acknowledged that the town still faces challenges, including a housing crisis and tensions between old and new residents. She also introduced the Green and Healthy Frome project, funded by the National Lottery's Climate Action Fund, which aims to promote sustainability and health in the town.
Budget Allocation for Communication and Evaluation
Becky discussed the budget allocation for communication and evaluation in the project, emphasizing the importance of storytelling and community engagement. She highlighted the complexity of the project, which involves individual and household action, healthy homes, and community action. Becky also mentioned the challenges of coordinating efforts across different organizations and the difficulty of measuring long-term impact. She expressed a desire to focus on learning and sharing stories from the project to benefit others.
Residency Model Success and Sustainability
Becky discussed the success of their residency model, which has reached 17,000 residents and potentially saved 86 tonnes of carbon. She highlighted the model's cost savings, with 576 room households supported and an estimated 97,000 pounds saved. Becky also emphasized the importance of community engagement and the model's focus on co-benefits, such as health and cost savings. She mentioned the model's potential for future sustainability and encouraged further discussion about it.
Community Engagement and Funding Strategies
Becky discussed the importance of engaging the community in small ways and supporting communities focused on key topics. She highlighted the challenges in agreeing on communication strategies, opting for upbeat and enabling messaging instead. Becky also mentioned the team's focus on legacy and future funding, including potential partnerships with other local communities. She expressed interest in learning exchanges and encouraged attendees to stay in touch through a newsletter sign-up on their website. Andrew agreed with Becky's approach to messaging and mentioned an intern working on a related topic, offering to include Becky in the reference group.
Setting Net 0 Targets Locally
Becky discussed the challenges of setting a net 0 target for a town, acknowledging that only about 25% of carbon emissions within the town can be controlled. She suggested that the town's commitment to sustainability should be focused on doing the best they can at a local level. Councillor Stuart proposed setting a net 0 target for the council, which is more controllable and measurable. Andrew asked Becky about the future shed initiative and how they started engaging residents. Becky explained the residency model, where individuals pitch for a residency and receive a 5,000 pounds budget and a 3-day a week post holder for support. She mentioned that they are currently supporting existing residencies and have ring-fenced money for a young person's coordinator role to engage young people.
Climate Awareness in Textile Network
Becky clarified that while climate awareness is not a primary focus of their project, it is subtly integrated into their work, particularly through the textile network and residencies. She emphasized that their main engagement levers are around health and cost of living, with climate benefits being highlighted for those who prioritize these issues. Becky also mentioned that they have not actively offered climate change education sessions to the community.
Community Engagement Through Eco Gardening
In the meeting, Andrew and Becky discussed community engagement, particularly with young people. Cllr suggested using eco gardening as a way to get people involved in environmentally friendly practices. Becky agreed and mentioned a green and social nature prescribing network and a seed library that has been successful in engaging young children. Ken shared their experience with the River of Flowers Project, which has received positive feedback from the community. The group also discussed the Climate Outreach Study and the Green, Gold, and Bricks model. They agreed on the importance of understanding different audiences and not assuming everyone shares the same views on climate change.
Climate Change Initiatives and Community Engagement
In the meeting, Claudine introduced Elizabeth and Wendy, who are working on a project for the integrated care partnership in Coventry and Warwickshire. Claudine suggested a study visit for the parish and town councils in their focus group. Becky shared her experience with the Cornwall Greener practice network and recommended signing up for their emails. Andrew thanked Becky for her presentation and discussed the possibility of inviting her to future meetings. Elizabeth expressed difficulty in finding volunteers for climate change initiatives and sought advice on engaging people. Andrew agreed to visit Elizabeth's community and promised to share the recording and presentation on the knowledge base. The next meeting will feature a speaker on community land trusts.
00:04:39 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: May be forced to leave suddenly - my Internet supplier is testing the system
00:51:35 Claudine Pearson: A Community Nature Reserve model - Felixstowe. Everyone can give over space for wildlife. https://littlegreenspace.org.uk/features/Felixstowe-nature-reserve.html
00:53:37 Andrew Maliphant: For past presentations follow Banter sessions (inc table of all sessions) | The Great Collaboration Knowledgebase
00:53:43 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: We have volunteers growing wildflower plug plants for us to plant in our community spaces.
00:55:43 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: This may be interesting https://www.co-operativebank.co.uk/business/community/customer-donation-fund/river-of-flowers/ Anyone know anything about it 00:56:20 Andrew Maliphant: Britain Talks Climate - Climate Outreach 00:57:28 Ken Huggins North Dorset PC: https://uk.linkedin.com/company/river-of-flowers 00:59:46 Elisabeth Uggerloese: Is the recording been circulated and oresentation
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1 00:02:18.170 --> 00:02:18.790 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: All right.
22 00:02:18.790 --> 00:02:25.110 Becky Lovegrove: However, I do have a presentation, so I don't know. Are you
23 00:02:25.460 --> 00:02:28.659 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Do you want to try sharing it and see if it appears
24 00:02:28.660 --> 00:02:32.459 Becky Lovegrove: Yeah, yeah. Do you want me just to start straight away without?
25 00:02:32.700 --> 00:02:33.785 Becky Lovegrove: Well, I hey.
26 00:02:34.459 --> 00:02:42.440 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I think obviously there are. Some people will join us as we go through. But I think if there's any issue about seeing the presentation. Let's let's leap on it now. So
27 00:02:42.690 --> 00:02:43.250 Becky Lovegrove: Nice
28 00:02:43.250 --> 00:02:46.109 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Give it a go on on sharing, and see see where we get to
29 00:02:48.060 --> 00:02:48.965 Becky Lovegrove: Rights
30 00:02:51.860 --> 00:02:54.770 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, I have trouble with cameras and teams. Don't get me started.
31 00:02:56.310 --> 00:02:57.010 Becky Lovegrove: Yeah.
32 00:02:57.610 --> 00:03:00.100 Becky Lovegrove: So here we go.
33 00:03:00.750 --> 00:03:03.359 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Something's happening that's good. Yay.
34 00:03:03.750 --> 00:03:12.850 Becky Lovegrove: Great slideshow, so does that appear as a slideshow. Now
35 00:03:12.850 --> 00:03:17.729 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, we can see that everybody else see that nods around the room
36 00:03:18.150 --> 00:03:32.320 Becky Lovegrove: Wonderful lovely. Just a quick question. I. This is very similar to a presentation I did a few weeks ago to the National Association of Local Councils. Was anyone there
37 00:03:32.470 --> 00:03:35.067 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I I wasn't at that one myself.
38 00:03:35.810 --> 00:03:36.455 Becky Lovegrove: There you go.
39 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:41.960 Becky Lovegrove: everybody else, but I'm sure I'm sure if it was worth seeing once, it would be worth seeing twice.
40 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:57.430 Becky Lovegrove: anyway. My apologies to anyone who's already seen this, because it's you being a not dissimilar audience. There are some changes, but it's going to be largely the same. But we will have much longer to chat about it. So that's that's the the carrot
41 00:03:57.550 --> 00:04:12.019 Becky Lovegrove: at the end. Good. Okay. Right. Well, let's get started without further ado, is a market town. In sunset out
42 00:04:12.130 --> 00:04:14.688 Becky Lovegrove: 30,000 people live here
43 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:35.329 Becky Lovegrove: highlighted as one of the time's best places to live in Britain, a welcoming, charming, and vibrant place to visit a wealth of history, culture, and natural beauty. So we, you know, we have been sort of touted around over the past 10 years or so as the place to be, which is an interesting label.
44 00:04:35.855 --> 00:04:46.889 Becky Lovegrove: We had the non-party political independence for Froome, established here in 2011, when they won a majority in the town.
45 00:04:46.990 --> 00:05:05.270 Becky Lovegrove: And actually, since 2015, all our councillors have been independent. Which I'm led to understand is, you know, very unusual, although increasingly common, sort of situation, to have independent counsellors.
46 00:05:06.483 --> 00:05:20.099 Becky Lovegrove: We, along with many other sort of town councils, declared climate emergency, and committed to work towards net 0 by 2030, albeit that you know
47 00:05:20.380 --> 00:05:27.599 Becky Lovegrove: the majority of carbon emissions are kind of outside our scope as a town and as a community.
48 00:05:28.522 --> 00:05:44.210 Becky Lovegrove: One thing to know about Froome is that our medical practice again, it's 1 of the is an outlier in the sense. I think it's the second biggest single practice in the Uk primary care network in its own right.
49 00:05:44.970 --> 00:06:11.449 Becky Lovegrove: So they are kind of national leaders in terms of sustainability in primary care. They've the highest scoring on the green impact toolkit, and they've been asked by the Somerset Integrated Care Board to kind of help other practices in Somerset to green up, and they've also kind of got a national profile in terms of sustainability and primary care.
50 00:06:11.910 --> 00:06:15.659 Becky Lovegrove: And the reason I'm mentioning this is that because they are
51 00:06:15.850 --> 00:06:24.190 Becky Lovegrove: key partners in green and healthy froome. And one I'm just preempting the most common question I get, which is, how on earth did you get primary care on board.
52 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:36.900 Becky Lovegrove: They are. They were leading on this before our partnership existed, and they will continue to lead on this after the lottery funding ends, you know, they
53 00:06:37.100 --> 00:06:59.030 Becky Lovegrove: I've never really seen an organization so committed to sustainability across all of its all of the areas, from buildings to prescribing, and so on. So I'm not saying, don't attempt to engage your primary care partners. I'm just saying that we didn't have to work on it because they were already engaged in the green agenda.
54 00:06:59.130 --> 00:07:01.159 Becky Lovegrove: and they're very inspiring.
55 00:07:01.980 --> 00:07:11.420 Becky Lovegrove: One of the more recent happenings in Froome is that we've got a very large brownfield site in the centre of town which
56 00:07:11.840 --> 00:07:22.450 Becky Lovegrove: belonged to Somerset Council, who were really struggling financially at the moment, and a number of developers were interested in that site.
57 00:07:22.620 --> 00:07:47.019 Becky Lovegrove: and it was awarded to a national developer. The agreement was that it would be sold to a national developer last autumn, and then, the day after it was offered to them. They withdrew, because the community here were not very clearly voicing that they didn't want them. So the Somerset Council gone back to the table, and they've agreed to
58 00:07:47.190 --> 00:08:06.849 Becky Lovegrove: sell the land to Mayday, Saxonville, which is a use, a kind of local community plan for that site. And again, I'm led to understand. I'm not a local government person. You're probably picking this up. But I'm led to understand that this is a very, very unusual situation where a local community group has developed a plan.
59 00:08:06.850 --> 00:08:17.839 Becky Lovegrove: you know, possibly without the money and heft of a national developer. But they have secured it for the people of free. And so we're really excited about that. And
60 00:08:17.890 --> 00:08:34.199 Becky Lovegrove: and it will be, you know, a number of years before it's complete as a development. But if you're interested in that project. It's called Mayday, Saxon Vale. And there's a lot about it, a lot about it online.
61 00:08:34.750 --> 00:09:00.439 Becky Lovegrove: Having said all of that, there is a tendency for people to think that Froome's got it all sorted, and I think sometimes we play into that. But it's not Utopia here. We're right on the edge of Somerset County, which can cause boundary issues in terms of funding, etc. There's a really significant and
62 00:09:00.660 --> 00:09:04.839 Becky Lovegrove: entirely unresolved tension between kind of old Froom and new Froom.
63 00:09:05.050 --> 00:09:23.830 Becky Lovegrove: Lots of people come here for a better life, especially just before, just after they have children. Property prices have skyrocketed. The town is relatively what I would call Bougie very beautiful, but not necessarily benefiting. All of the people who live here.
64 00:09:23.970 --> 00:09:38.950 Becky Lovegrove: Like most places, we do have a housing crisis. We've got loads and loads of community groups, but it is really difficult to coordinate across them, and quite often we bump into each other.
65 00:09:39.470 --> 00:09:59.989 Becky Lovegrove: and there's a lot of opportunities coming to us right now around evolution. So you know where Somerset Council is kind of wanting to hand over assets to the town. But you know there are loads of opportunities with that, but also kind of risks in terms of the town Council trying to kind of make space and money to
66 00:09:59.990 --> 00:10:16.490 Becky Lovegrove: to do this. So we are very fortunate. But we definitely have challenges ahead of us, and we haven't got things solved. And personally, I'm just as interested to know what we can learn from others as to what you can learn from us here.
67 00:10:17.950 --> 00:10:27.720 Becky Lovegrove: So this project, green and healthy, Froome, is funded by the National Lottery's Climate Action Fund. We're one of the 1st grantees.
68 00:10:28.160 --> 00:10:36.950 Becky Lovegrove: We had a 2 year development phase, followed by a full award which gave us a kind of trebled budget for 3 years.
69 00:10:37.340 --> 00:10:43.850 Becky Lovegrove: We are coming into year 3 of that 3 years. So this current grant
70 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:48.600 Becky Lovegrove: for the 3 years is 1.8 million across 3 partners.
71 00:10:49.160 --> 00:10:58.600 Becky Lovegrove: those partners, froome medical practice, Froome, Town Council and adventure Froome, which is a community interest company whose
72 00:10:58.730 --> 00:11:18.830 Becky Lovegrove: focus has been on social entrepreneurship and training and community building. So that's where I'm employed. So you've got a very small, fragile community interest company alongside 2 kind of civic institutions who do have guaranteed funding
73 00:11:18.830 --> 00:11:25.229 Elisabeth Uggerloese: In here, I mean a sort of virtual meeting. But what can I? Are you? When are you starting, or have you started
74 00:11:27.500 --> 00:11:28.740 Elisabeth Uggerloese: the planting
75 00:11:30.370 --> 00:11:33.896 Becky Lovegrove: Can I just can. I just ask people to mute if they're
76 00:11:34.420 --> 00:11:36.620 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Elizabeth, could you mute, please.
77 00:11:37.340 --> 00:11:38.050 Elisabeth Uggerloese: No.
78 00:11:41.430 --> 00:11:43.250 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Andrew, can't you mute her
79 00:11:43.820 --> 00:11:46.269 Elisabeth Uggerloese: Okay. All right. Okay.
80 00:11:46.270 --> 00:11:48.179 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And have that power, it seems. Yeah.
81 00:11:49.035 --> 00:11:51.600 Becky Lovegrove: These things happen
82 00:11:51.980 --> 00:11:52.590 Elisabeth Uggerloese: Okay.
83 00:11:54.920 --> 00:11:59.590 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yes, if we could all be be muted, that's fine. And so I know Elizabeth will have a quiet chat
84 00:11:59.980 --> 00:12:01.015 Becky Lovegrove: Oh, thank you.
85 00:12:08.770 --> 00:12:11.398 Becky Lovegrove: So in this partnership as well as
86 00:12:12.750 --> 00:12:14.799 Becky Lovegrove: So delivering
87 00:12:14.800 --> 00:12:18.074 Elisabeth Uggerloese: Okay, thank you. Will do.
88 00:12:19.590 --> 00:12:24.330 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Elizabeth, could you just mute your mute yourself, please, but I couldn't mute you while you're on the phone.
89 00:12:25.020 --> 00:12:26.949 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Thanks. Take care
90 00:12:27.520 --> 00:12:44.610 Becky Lovegrove: Oh, cool. Thank you. There's quite a big budget here for what we call storytelling, which is essentially communications and also evaluation. So the principle behind it being that the lottery were
91 00:12:45.262 --> 00:13:01.329 Becky Lovegrove: very curious about the green and healthy co-benefit model, and they were very interested in the medical practice. So we've built in a lot of funding for evaluation. So we've got 2
92 00:13:01.330 --> 00:13:17.809 Becky Lovegrove: almost 2 full time evaluation employees within this partnership, and we've got a communications lead in adventure. But also we've got communications capacity in the other 2 organizations. So, in in my
93 00:13:17.810 --> 00:13:43.890 Becky Lovegrove: view, there's quite a decent slice of that, Grant went towards evaluation and storytelling. And there's also quite a decent investment in beyond room. Which is why I'm joining you today, and I will talk to you more later about how we can work together ongoing if there's anything in this presentation that is interesting to you.
94 00:13:44.710 --> 00:13:56.559 Becky Lovegrove: So the project is, I think, relatively complex. If I was designing it again, I probably would just have one
95 00:13:56.940 --> 00:13:58.560 Becky Lovegrove: one thing in each
96 00:13:59.020 --> 00:14:07.340 Becky Lovegrove: partner and do it in more depth and detail. There's some encouragement towards individual and household action.
97 00:14:07.520 --> 00:14:12.969 Becky Lovegrove: So that would be active travel, getting people riding bikes.
98 00:14:13.070 --> 00:14:25.619 Becky Lovegrove: so free e-bike loans, social ride, cycle, confidence and bike maintenance. The focus in this final year is going to be towards children and families getting people on in the saddle younger.
99 00:14:25.760 --> 00:14:45.959 Becky Lovegrove: And there's healthy homes which has a really really rounded, comprehensive offer around energy efficiency, and more and more so now towards retrofit assessment and development. So you know, not just
100 00:14:45.960 --> 00:15:08.330 Becky Lovegrove: assess doing retrofit assessments, which is what we started with, but thinking about all the barriers to retrofit, which are actually, you know, the main issue really is kind of overcoming those barriers, and very recently we had some underspend, and we were floundering a little bit with what to do with it. So we were doing a really big push on renewables, specifically solar
101 00:15:08.330 --> 00:15:23.570 Becky Lovegrove: to local businesses and somewhat to households. So it's a little bit less green and healthy, but more about infrastructure. In this final year. We found the lottery really flexible around redeploying funds instantly
102 00:15:23.590 --> 00:15:51.259 Becky Lovegrove: in this case. And then we've got what I would call community action. So there's a big project around plastic free period, so moving people away from disposable and plastic based period products towards reusable period products, including giving free packs to all the young people who need them in our schools, and quite a big public awareness campaign around that.
103 00:15:51.560 --> 00:15:57.950 Becky Lovegrove: And where I'm based here at adventure, we've got a really lovely project called the Future Shed, which
104 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:14.620 Becky Lovegrove: creates residencies with communities and local networks, who want to do something in our town that will bring other people into the project so very much around a movement building and community building focus.
105 00:16:14.980 --> 00:16:37.899 Becky Lovegrove: The projects that our community have brought to us have been around food, textile seed, library, green and healthy play and nature connection. So those are the ones that we've been kind of elevating and working on in our community. And actually, we've found them incredibly effective in terms of bringing people to the table through their particular passions.
106 00:16:38.702 --> 00:16:40.390 Becky Lovegrove: In our community.
107 00:16:40.610 --> 00:16:47.119 Becky Lovegrove: And we are currently running a kind of communications for change course here at Adventure, where we've
108 00:16:47.170 --> 00:17:10.689 Becky Lovegrove: brought all of the local experts together to train local people to deliver communications for our project, as it happens, but within that, to really learn and understand what it looks like to communicate with people around behavior change and big social issues. So not marketing goods and services, but marketing ideas, telling stories.
109 00:17:10.819 --> 00:17:25.399 Becky Lovegrove: really understanding what it takes to help people change their behavior in the context of climate, but not necessarily making climate, or quite rarely making climate actually the forefront of our communications into our community.
110 00:17:25.579 --> 00:17:50.079 Becky Lovegrove: And then there's a project called Green Connectors at Free Medical Practice, which is creating a kind of a community of people who are interested in green and healthy and willing to kind of. Take that further into their own organizations and into their own communities. I'm sorry this is a lot of detail, but it will get a little bit more interesting in a minute around our learning
111 00:17:50.930 --> 00:18:18.679 Becky Lovegrove: the 3rd pillar, I would say, is system change. So thinking about what it takes to change, you know, a really big business and major employer room through medical practice towards the best in sustainability that they can be. And that's not just about changing systems in the business. It's about changing the culture in primary care, the way that people understand their work and the relationship between climate and health.
112 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:44.190 Becky Lovegrove: The main thrust is around reducing, prescribing, including by actively supporting healthy lifestyles, because actually, the biggest carbon footprint in the Nhs is around prescribing, and that is where the main thrust of the kind of pilots and the learning in free medical practice occurs.
113 00:18:44.390 --> 00:19:05.819 Becky Lovegrove: and then, in terms of system change also kind of storytelling and communication like, how do we talk to people about the work that we do? And how do we engage our community and evaluation and the kind of learning exchanges like today? And also we do. We have published quite a large number of toolkits. But they're pretty much all
114 00:19:05.820 --> 00:19:15.700 Becky Lovegrove: needing to be updated now. And we're going to be adding more just to sit, you know, to kind of help other people learn from our
115 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:19.290 Becky Lovegrove: our successes and our challenges.
116 00:19:21.670 --> 00:19:40.549 Becky Lovegrove: so I kind of rather than focusing on all these different work strands which would take us all week. I just really want to focus on learning for a minute, because I you know, I would love for other projects to kind of benefit from the reflection that we've. We've got 4 years in
117 00:19:40.840 --> 00:19:55.909 Becky Lovegrove: working across 3 organizations that have different funding objectives and kind of voices and authority even in our community, is really challenging. There are some things that a small community interest company can say.
118 00:19:55.910 --> 00:20:14.459 Becky Lovegrove: We can be more radical, we can be more reflexive, whereas free medical practice has to be really careful about, especially about the way they talk to their patient population. It is really challenging. But we can capitalize on this diversity because we've got we reach so many different people in Froome in different ways.
119 00:20:15.432 --> 00:20:21.239 Becky Lovegrove: We found that kind of co-location and cross promotion are key. We we have to support
120 00:20:21.470 --> 00:20:41.630 Becky Lovegrove: the whole partnership by popping up in each other's venues, letting people know what's going on. So that level of integration just on a very basic level is absolutely critical, and especially the amount of events and pop ups that we bring into free medical practice.
121 00:20:42.154 --> 00:20:59.929 Becky Lovegrove: I'd say at least once, if not twice a month, through medical practice, will be hosting something like a healthy homes, advice desk, you know, a food project, free soup and veg boxes, and that kind of thing which is really really powerful.
122 00:21:00.514 --> 00:21:12.389 Becky Lovegrove: Even in this well established partnership coordination is almost impossible, and even in one market town we are still trying to work out. How
123 00:21:12.570 --> 00:21:27.999 Becky Lovegrove: do we coordinate all the groups who are interested in sustainability? Is this a role for the town Council? It's an open question right now, but nobody else has really stepped forward to be that kind of coordinating body, and
124 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:45.299 Becky Lovegrove: I would speculate that the same might be true elsewhere, and it's kind of difficult to get funding for the infrastructure versus the actual kind of delivery of you know, the green and healthy packages that we do
125 00:21:45.570 --> 00:22:03.699 Becky Lovegrove: in future bids. I, personally, as the project manager, would have preferred fewer and better resourced work packages really building on what we learned in the development phase, we added more rather than taking work packages away. So a work package is a kind of commitment to the lottery about
126 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:26.810 Becky Lovegrove: a detailed piece of work that we want to do with the funding, and I would certainly have created more scope for learning iteration and innovation. I think we set our tram lines. We said what we wanted to do, and it's been quite difficult to persuade to persuade the team more than the lottery that it would be a really good idea to
127 00:22:27.010 --> 00:22:30.249 Becky Lovegrove: you constantly use our learning to
128 00:22:30.510 --> 00:22:34.549 Becky Lovegrove: do things differently as we went along. And I would definitely.
129 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:43.839 Becky Lovegrove: you know, suggest to anyone who's going to be thinking about. Maybe this fund or others is that you really kind of bake that in
130 00:22:44.328 --> 00:22:52.059 Becky Lovegrove: so that you don't tie your feet together, and that you can keep creating new opportunities through throughout the project
131 00:22:53.180 --> 00:23:10.929 Becky Lovegrove: with the valuation. The Climate action fund does want carbon savings to be counted, and we also talk about cost savings, especially within healthy homes and plastic free period.
132 00:23:11.010 --> 00:23:30.510 Becky Lovegrove: so that the consumer, you know, we try and show that this is a kind of money saving opportunity for our community members. It's incredibly tough. We've got an academic evaluator who feels very squirmy about the number of assumptions that he's had to take
133 00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:39.660 Becky Lovegrove: between a phone call where we give advice to somebody, and imagining that they took that advice, and, you know.
134 00:23:39.780 --> 00:23:48.310 Becky Lovegrove: followed it for 5 years. It's really really tough, and it creates a lot of work. Actually.
135 00:23:49.345 --> 00:23:57.259 Becky Lovegrove: we also had a social return on investment project which we withdrew from because
136 00:23:57.590 --> 00:24:09.408 Becky Lovegrove: the complexity and kind of timeframe of our program meant that again, we didn't feel confident that any you know, punch for pound that we got out of that would be
137 00:24:10.370 --> 00:24:27.450 Becky Lovegrove: honest enough, realistic enough to be able to talk about it beyond this project. So that was quite a big, probably about 30,000 pounds that we thought we were going to invest in social return on investment to kind of show the value of this project
138 00:24:27.580 --> 00:24:34.840 Becky Lovegrove: that we withdrew from. But again the lottery supported us with that which was really good.
139 00:24:34.980 --> 00:24:46.879 Becky Lovegrove: so we can easily count the number of people who engage with our projects, not individuals, but kind of touch points. And we can sometimes monitor behavior change if people do reply to our surveys.
140 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:56.679 Becky Lovegrove: But measuring kind of longer term impact is problematic. For all the reasons I've sort of talked about, and in terms of really
141 00:24:57.270 --> 00:25:06.640 Becky Lovegrove: measuring a community's change in behavior on a kind of more global level. It's almost impossible
142 00:25:06.970 --> 00:25:14.240 Becky Lovegrove: to do, even though we said, That's what we wanted this project to do in our town, it is really really difficult to measure.
143 00:25:14.370 --> 00:25:15.700 Becky Lovegrove: And
144 00:25:16.510 --> 00:25:31.539 Becky Lovegrove: so, going into Year 3, we want to really think about what what makes for effective partnership, working system change and culture change. So these are the really quite difficult to capture, and bits of learning from this project
145 00:25:31.840 --> 00:25:39.900 Becky Lovegrove: so that we can share with other people and hopefully maintain this partnership. Once the Grant period ends
146 00:25:40.560 --> 00:25:53.000 Becky Lovegrove: and we want to kind of capture some more of the stories in detail case studies. So moving away from data and quality quantitative data to finding a better way to share the kind of stories
147 00:25:53.130 --> 00:26:01.889 Becky Lovegrove: that we've that we can tell, because we know that it's much more inspiring for people to hear about those stories
148 00:26:02.050 --> 00:26:08.229 Becky Lovegrove: and all the ups and downs than it is necessarily just to see how many tonnes of carbon we think we might have saved.
149 00:26:08.620 --> 00:26:16.070 Becky Lovegrove: and having said that here are some metrics for you. We've reached
150 00:26:16.550 --> 00:26:33.629 Becky Lovegrove: 17,000 residents or we've reached. We might have reached the same person a hundred times within. That is my caveat. Through our events and support. So it's a it's a really good number. Actually, I think for the time that we've had.
151 00:26:33.900 --> 00:27:01.020 Becky Lovegrove: we think that we've saved the equivalent of 86 tonnes of carbon, and we've, you know, helped from residents to the to the kind of sum of about 97,000 pounds reduced energy bills and energy grants. But I would caveat that to say that those figures are speculative, and the absolute best that we could do with the data that we had as well.
152 00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:15.949 Becky Lovegrove: And, for example, this is, you know, just 1 1 of the work strands. So 576 room households have been supported with energy, advice, financial support, home visits and home retrofit assessments.
153 00:27:16.590 --> 00:27:21.590 Becky Lovegrove: and within that we think 15 tonnes of carbon saved.
154 00:27:22.380 --> 00:27:28.599 Becky Lovegrove: and the 97 k. Is the same figure that I gave you just now for the cost savings into the future
155 00:27:29.890 --> 00:27:54.060 Becky Lovegrove: in terms of community. I will be stopping in 5 min or so. By the way, so thank you for bearing with me in terms of community engagement. I would really recommend. If you're interested in this Residency model is that you talk to us more about it. I haven't seen Residency before as a model in my work.
156 00:27:54.280 --> 00:28:23.950 Becky Lovegrove: The lottery needed us to run this Residency model, because that you cannot on grant. So what we said was 5 projects every year would have a fund of 5,000 pounds. We would make it a fair and equitable process about who that money went to, and that we would try and make these residencies strong enough, so that when the funding from us would end that they would still have a future
157 00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:42.339 Becky Lovegrove: around half of that 5,000 would go towards what we would call coordinator fees, about 150 pounds a day, just to be completely transparent to our kind of network coordinators. And about half of that 5,000 would go towards events and activities.
158 00:28:43.840 --> 00:28:45.100 Becky Lovegrove: So
159 00:28:45.290 --> 00:29:06.769 Becky Lovegrove: some of these residencies have been hugely successful. So everyone needs pockets is a residency around textile reuse. 2 people started it. There are 150 people now in the network, and it has reached hundreds, and if not thousands, of people through the town, you know, with
160 00:29:06.930 --> 00:29:14.869 Becky Lovegrove: stitch it don't ditch it, pop ups and repair workshops, talks just a massive, massive impact.
161 00:29:15.532 --> 00:29:22.780 Becky Lovegrove: And I've I've put in links here to some of our other other other networks.
162 00:29:23.150 --> 00:29:49.410 Becky Lovegrove: We work really, really hard to help these networks to create an identity, a website set themselves up to be able to bid to be able to deliver events, risk, manage events to be as resilient as they can. They get free coaching. There is as much wraparound as we can possibly give them for the duration of the Residency.
163 00:29:49.410 --> 00:29:57.659 Becky Lovegrove: in the hope that they can continue beyond the funding period. But that is as yet to be tested, because we are still here supporting them.
164 00:29:59.482 --> 00:30:02.930 Becky Lovegrove: In terms of communications.
165 00:30:03.642 --> 00:30:12.830 Becky Lovegrove: It's very easy to communicate with people who are already activated around climate. It's quite easy to get them to come to our events.
166 00:30:13.130 --> 00:30:30.700 Becky Lovegrove: We have built our communications around co-benefits, so health was the initial one, and Pocket has become the 3rd pillar, because a lot of what we offer is actually has the potential to give
167 00:30:31.140 --> 00:30:35.550 Becky Lovegrove: individuals and householders really quite considerable cost savings.
168 00:30:36.407 --> 00:30:44.080 Becky Lovegrove: In terms of energy efficiency in terms of repairing and reusing.
169 00:30:44.390 --> 00:30:49.920 Becky Lovegrove: and so on. So we have used the evidence base, really?
170 00:30:50.494 --> 00:30:56.600 Becky Lovegrove: You'll be able to see it on our website, actually, which has just been remodeled around the 3 pillars of planet pocket and Health.
171 00:30:56.730 --> 00:31:23.419 Becky Lovegrove: There's some really good models out there. The act climate labs which goes into kind of Audience segmentation and the Gold Green and Bricks model, which looks at about 25% of us are green, by the way, probably most of us here. But the gold is around 50% of the population. So really thinking about what's going to activate them
172 00:31:23.490 --> 00:31:39.050 Becky Lovegrove: definitely, the code benefits it really is. I've said, I've already covered that planet pocket and health. You can see on our website how we guide 3 people through those pillars rather than talking about what we do, we try and focus on their motivations.
173 00:31:39.450 --> 00:31:48.310 Becky Lovegrove: providing key facts digestible, not too many, but really focusing on accessible and achievable solutions.
174 00:31:48.909 --> 00:32:13.299 Becky Lovegrove: Is really critical to getting people to kind of take action in a small way in the community, and then also kind of supporting those communities that do want to focus on key topics primarily through these residencies that we run so that they can reach out into their own networks, and they can attract people through their own key topics
175 00:32:13.710 --> 00:32:16.510 Becky Lovegrove: as as the year rolls on.
176 00:32:16.650 --> 00:32:46.480 Becky Lovegrove: It is really difficult for our team to agree on what Comms should look like, you know. Should we be talking about climate injustice? Should we be alerting people to the urgent and immense peril of climate change? How should we be? Because there are some people on our team who are really activated and would want us to be much more radical and direct
177 00:32:47.021 --> 00:33:08.248 Becky Lovegrove: in our communications. But we've had to agree as a team that we are. We were set up to engage our entire community to take actions whether they know that they're being engaged on climate or not. So we do focus on relatively upbeat and enabling messaging
178 00:33:09.030 --> 00:33:21.999 Becky Lovegrove: in terms of the way that we face into and lean into our community. So across many social media channels. We do a lot in the press. We do a lot of events and activities in the town. That's how we work.
179 00:33:24.800 --> 00:33:32.789 Becky Lovegrove: There has been a massive focus in the last quarter or the last 6 months actually on our legacy.
180 00:33:33.060 --> 00:33:35.979 Becky Lovegrove: It was really clunky to start with.
181 00:33:36.670 --> 00:33:46.679 Becky Lovegrove: but we managed to kind of get everybody focused in the end. And what's happened as a result of that, there's now a really strong push to look for
182 00:33:47.240 --> 00:34:08.540 Becky Lovegrove: future funding, not to replicate what we're doing, not at all, but to take the learning from this project and to try to do some other stuff, so especially around retrofit potentially setting up a Cic participatory community funding through. Maybe the lottery's you decide fund
183 00:34:08.630 --> 00:34:25.879 Becky Lovegrove: looking for other local communities who want to do something with us. Froome community bike project already exists, but they're going to see a massive drop off in their funding, so to try and support them, to be more resilient for the future.
184 00:34:26.554 --> 00:34:33.509 Becky Lovegrove: I would love for anybody who's interested to come to our conference in November 25.
185 00:34:34.040 --> 00:34:56.099 Becky Lovegrove: We haven't got invites or a date yet, but if you think you'd like to hear more, or you'd at least like to hear from me when we we do know what we're doing, and when you can just email me at that email address. It will be lovely to have as many people from outside room as possible. There, that's just an example of a roadmap which I'm not gonna
186 00:34:56.219 --> 00:35:12.760 Becky Lovegrove: lean into. But you can have a look later. So yeah, beyond room, all of us in the project. And we're a team of 12 now, I think, are really up for visits. You come here, we come to you online learning exchanges, mentoring
187 00:35:13.542 --> 00:35:21.977 Becky Lovegrove: attending, or presenting, delivering our little green connectors, workshop sessions and sharing our toolkits.
188 00:35:23.060 --> 00:35:38.460 Becky Lovegrove: So we that is part of our work. And I also really want to reiterate that we're interested in learning from you. This is not. This is not us being grandiose at all. I'm very, very interested in learning exchanges
189 00:35:38.500 --> 00:35:56.209 Becky Lovegrove: with anyone who is keen to do so. And if you want to stay in touch with us on a more general basis, there's a kind of newsletter sign up on the homepage of our website. And you can just just observe what we're doing, or, you know, come along and join us at some point.
190 00:35:57.367 --> 00:36:10.390 Becky Lovegrove: So sorry. That was a lot a lot, a lot. So if any of that is interesting to you that do, do get in touch with me afterwards, and I'll I'll try and answer any questions now that anybody might have
191 00:36:10.650 --> 00:36:39.949 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Many thanks, Becky. That's fascinating. All of it is great, and obviously. Do please send over your presentation in due course. I absolutely agree with you that I'm sure there'll be lots of questions and things to talk about. I actually agreed to you on the need for upbeat messages. Sometimes. You see, last time I saw this topic discussed on the BBC. There was some bloke crying to his beer, saying, Oh, we've reached the 1.5 degrees C average increase in temperature. Let's try and do something desperate before we get to 2.5.
192 00:36:39.950 --> 00:36:45.279 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: As another friend of mine said, it's hard to get people to volunteer in an atmosphere of impending doom.
193 00:36:45.280 --> 00:37:04.679 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So we have got an intern working on this particular topic, Becky, so hopefully, I can include you in the sort of reference group for that, because it's something obviously, that you're coming up against as well. If if you could stop your screen sharing, please, Becky, then that would be sound. Thank you very much, Stuart. You've got your hand up, mate. You're in there first.st
194 00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:13.749 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You're still muted for Stuart. You're muted, Nick.
195 00:37:15.290 --> 00:37:17.109 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: Sorry Schoolboy Error. Sorry
196 00:37:18.350 --> 00:37:18.920 Becky Lovegrove: Before.
197 00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:23.369 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: I was just saying thanks again to Becky, another great presentation.
198 00:37:23.510 --> 00:37:35.730 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: and I'm really in awe of her community involvement. It's 1 thing that keeps coming up time and time again in almost every sort of group that I attend
199 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:39.800 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: is, how do you get people to engage?
200 00:37:40.210 --> 00:37:43.879 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: And I think you've shown us the way.
201 00:37:44.120 --> 00:37:46.823 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: 1. 1 other question, though, is
202 00:37:47.630 --> 00:37:54.839 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: at the end of 2030, how do you envisage measuring your net? 0
203 00:37:55.700 --> 00:38:20.340 Becky Lovegrove: Yeah, I've got to be honest, Stuart. I think that that was a moment in time where we wanted, as a community to show our commitment to doing the best that we could do here. I think I mean, don't quote me on this, because I'm really not a very scientifically minded sort of a person, but I think that only about 25% of carbon emissions
204 00:38:21.103 --> 00:38:45.029 Becky Lovegrove: within froome can be controlled from within froome in terms of you know, people's choices around, transport, around energy, around housing around purchasing decisions. We do not have it within our gift. If only we did to to
205 00:38:45.030 --> 00:38:58.549 Becky Lovegrove: make that claim, and I do feel, you know, I think there are certain regrets that we ever made that commitment. I think what we meant was as a community. We want to do our absolute best to
206 00:38:58.650 --> 00:39:13.000 Becky Lovegrove: do what we can do at a local level towards that target. I don't think it was, it was realistic or useful in retrospect. But I think we do have a commitment as a town to
207 00:39:13.270 --> 00:39:39.979 Becky Lovegrove: to this agenda. And actually we do have a climate action lead role at Froometown Council. And we have had a climate action lead role for a number of years now. So yeah, there is a kind of coordinating overview and energy to this work. But yeah, I don't have the golden bullet. I'm sorry
208 00:39:39.980 --> 00:39:42.517 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: No, it's just I'm about to
209 00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:47.599 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: suggest that our Council sets a net 0 target of 2030,
210 00:39:47.810 --> 00:39:57.049 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: which is obviously a lot more controllable and measurable, I think. Setting it for a town, as you say, is.
211 00:39:57.310 --> 00:40:01.040 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: I would guess, next to impossible, really. But thank you for that.
212 00:40:02.025 --> 00:40:02.910 Becky Lovegrove: Yeah. No worries.
213 00:40:02.910 --> 00:40:04.159 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Thanks a lot.
214 00:40:04.270 --> 00:40:13.720 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I'm interested, Becky. It perhaps you. You talked about the future shed of how you gotten feedback from residents, about what was important to them.
215 00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:41.559 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And I think again, this is, I agree with Stuart. This is something that we can all be interested in, as Elizabeth and I know is from Bidford-on-avon. We had a project there which started out looking at community facilities which then spawned a look at rights of way and footpaths, and has ended up under the heading of your community, your voice being something very much more about sustainability for the whole town. How did you start with your future shed initiative, Becky?
216 00:40:42.120 --> 00:41:01.150 Becky Lovegrove: Yeah. So I think. Well, you know, adventure. Cic has always had a role of uplifting the community's projects. So, being a facilitator rather than a leader. I guess the lottery made the suggestion of this kind of Residency model
217 00:41:01.150 --> 00:41:21.919 Becky Lovegrove: and the 1st conference that we had during the development phase, people were kind of asked to pitch for a Residency, so it was a kind of open call out, and what they needed to do was not, you know, to have a plan of how to engage the community.
218 00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:31.100 Becky Lovegrove: and you know a degree of kind of knowledge and confidence in being able to speak to that topic, whether it be textiles or food.
219 00:41:31.610 --> 00:41:49.980 Becky Lovegrove: When they come into Residency. So when I say there's a 5,000 pounds budget for each Residency, that's part of it. There's also a 3 day a week post holder, who be very embarrassed if she heard me saying this, but she can turn straw into gold, so she's sitting behind those residencies.
220 00:41:50.210 --> 00:42:14.390 Becky Lovegrove: encouraging, supporting, challenging, picking up the balls that they drop, and also arranging a program of training and support for those residencies. So the overall cost of it is is higher than the 25 k. Per annum that goes into those residencies. I'd say it's about double that in total.
221 00:42:14.390 --> 00:42:32.609 Becky Lovegrove: So you know, it has taken a paid coordinator to be able to make that program as strong as it has been, and I think it'll be very interesting at the end of this grant to see which of those residencies forge forward into the future as entities in their own right.
222 00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:41.770 Becky Lovegrove: But yeah, I I just haven't come across that Residency model. And actually, we're doing a lot of work at the moment to try and
223 00:42:42.290 --> 00:43:03.730 Becky Lovegrove: capture it as a mechanism, but also capture the effective ways of working that sit within it. So just kind of watch out for that, because we want to be able to talk about it. I feel it's quite innovative to be able to talk about it to other people in a way that makes it transferable to other communities.
224 00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:27.079 Becky Lovegrove: But actually, this year, the final year, we're not having an open call out. We've decided that we need to support the existing residencies more to make them more robust for the future, and we've also ring fenced some money for a young persons coordinator role to work alongside us to engage young people because we haven't successfully engaged young people.
225 00:43:27.250 --> 00:43:28.510 Becky Lovegrove: and
226 00:43:28.630 --> 00:43:57.110 Becky Lovegrove: it's not that we want to make them responsible, but we do want for them to have a voice and to be supported in creating kind of group of allies who put on events for other young people. We really want to make that happen. So we've kind of taken a bit of a chance to push the agenda in a direction that we want to see it going going into this final year. We don't know if it's going to work or not. It's an experiment, but that is.
227 00:43:57.230 --> 00:44:02.570 Becky Lovegrove: that is a decision that we we made for this final year was to kind of go with a young person's focus
228 00:44:02.570 --> 00:44:06.860 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Thank you. That's fascinating. Thank you for that. Great Gary. You've got your hand up
229 00:44:06.860 --> 00:44:07.570 Becky Lovegrove: One.
230 00:44:08.420 --> 00:44:13.950 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Yeah, thanks. Thanks, Andrew. I was just wondering
231 00:44:13.950 --> 00:44:14.550 Becky Lovegrove: Perfect.
232 00:44:15.270 --> 00:44:15.860 Becky Lovegrove: Wow!
233 00:44:16.870 --> 00:44:27.740 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Do you deliver like climate literacy at all to your community, Becky, to to groups in the town, or just generally, is that part of what you're looking to do
234 00:44:28.100 --> 00:44:34.429 Becky Lovegrove: Yeah, it's something I was really interested in, actually, because when carbon literary, do you mean carbon literacy training
235 00:44:34.750 --> 00:44:41.900 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: No, I mean more like kind of liking, you know, informing the community about
236 00:44:42.630 --> 00:44:49.540 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: climate change and stuff is like delivering, not the training. Well, kind of. I suppose it is a training, really, but just kind of like.
237 00:44:49.940 --> 00:45:01.780 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: you know, engaging on the topic, doing present presentations, explaining about the issues and stuff, but you know, not doing it formally as training, but just, or however you would. However, you do it
238 00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:15.960 Becky Lovegrove: We? We haven't done very much of that, because I think the cornerstone of this project was around kind of Co benefits in terms of wanting to engage.
239 00:45:16.530 --> 00:45:35.779 Becky Lovegrove: especially people who perhaps were living already under a lot of pressure. So potentially talking to them about health and cost of living benefits was going to be more effective than talking about climate. So we haven't gone down the route of climate awareness. It does.
240 00:45:35.860 --> 00:45:56.100 Becky Lovegrove: It does sit behind some of our work. I mean, it can be found in our projects, certainly, and I would say the residencies have been the most vocal. So you know, the textile network will have speakers who, whose focus is supply chain, or who have a kind of geopolitical focus.
241 00:45:56.310 --> 00:46:23.609 Becky Lovegrove: But in general the project hasn't massively gone down that route of awareness, raising in the sense that the main engagement levers are around health and cost of living, because we we can sort of reliably assume that people will prioritise that, or will see an opportunity for them. We might then highlight the climate benefits of that small action
242 00:46:23.610 --> 00:46:40.390 Becky Lovegrove: with those people. In fact, we're trying to make that more and more of a priority to kind of stitch it in. But we haven't gone into a kind of full frontal kind of awareness raising program here in Froome. It's more clandestine than that
243 00:46:40.670 --> 00:46:49.019 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Yeah, it was just like, so it wasn't an element of your grant. And also it's not something you're kind of like, just offering as a kind of like, you know.
244 00:46:49.020 --> 00:46:49.630 Becky Lovegrove: Hey!
245 00:46:49.630 --> 00:46:50.210 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Do you want to learn
246 00:46:50.210 --> 00:46:50.640 Becky Lovegrove: Something
247 00:46:50.640 --> 00:46:57.519 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: More about climate change here. We can do this session, or a or something for people to come along.
248 00:46:57.670 --> 00:46:59.329 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: It's not more like kind of like
249 00:46:59.490 --> 00:47:03.080 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: pushing it, as you're pushing the other activities, as it were.
250 00:47:03.390 --> 00:47:14.679 Becky Lovegrove: No, no, it would only be. It would. Yeah. It would more likely pop up through a kind of topic, a particular topic like food or, yeah, a kind of
251 00:47:15.100 --> 00:47:33.449 Becky Lovegrove: a more universal topic, I'd say, I mean, I think the Green Connectors training. Sorry. I'm just walking around with my laptop, trying to find my charger, which I've got now, the Green Connectors training was much more
252 00:47:33.690 --> 00:48:00.060 Becky Lovegrove: a direct because their whole thing was around building a community of interested individuals to kind of educate them around the climate and health links and around all of the things that are available in Peru, and beyond that, people could become involved with that would support the climate. But what we found actually, Gary, was that the people coming forward for that were people who
253 00:48:00.100 --> 00:48:29.620 Becky Lovegrove: the 25%, the greens, the people who were already engaged and relatively knowledgeable in their own right. And we couldn't really monitor whether they were then spreading the message further afield, and people stopped coming to that. I think we've kind of mocked up all the people who were going to come, so that green connectors sort of module has been folded back into a much broader kind of health connections program at the medical practice.
254 00:48:29.934 --> 00:48:45.010 Becky Lovegrove: So we haven't. We didn't. I don't think we really made it our core purpose. So we have got ways of really bringing the kind of climate story home to people. But it's very context specific. It'll either be in the health center or it will be in
255 00:48:45.230 --> 00:48:47.140 Becky Lovegrove: in the textile network
256 00:48:49.320 --> 00:49:02.259 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Hey? Thank you very much. You asked for any more feedback from present company. Becky. Has anybody else here got any good practice or achievements to share in terms of engaging a local community, particularly perhaps young people.
257 00:49:02.811 --> 00:49:13.730 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I know Claudine's been working on things going with with sports clubs, but has anybody else got any ideas they want to share while we're talking about community engagement in our parishes.
258 00:49:19.170 --> 00:49:20.290 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Stuart
259 00:49:21.140 --> 00:49:26.230 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: I must say I was very taken with one of the previous
260 00:49:26.590 --> 00:49:44.269 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: speakers at the great collaboration banter session on Eco. Gardening as a way of getting people involved in the sort of green side of life. The figures like there are 20 million gardeners out there.
261 00:49:44.510 --> 00:49:50.499 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: and domestic gardens cover the same area as twice that of Suffolk.
262 00:49:50.830 --> 00:49:55.170 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: So I think that there is huge potential for that. And
263 00:49:55.430 --> 00:50:15.969 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: certainly if you get younger people involved in that, they do seem to like planting seeds and growing bits of food. I think that could be a great way into, as Andrew was saying, a small step to lead people on to more environmentally friendly practices.
264 00:50:16.120 --> 00:50:22.090 Becky Lovegrove: That's interesting. Because I think also, we've been doing kind of there's like a green. And so a green
265 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:44.620 Becky Lovegrove: a nature prescribing network. I think there's a kind of general thing about. If people are outdoors and in touch with the earth and with the natural environment, they they almost automatically become better custodians of the earth, and we've we've got this kind of seed library that does seedy socials with young seed.
266 00:50:44.920 --> 00:51:08.349 Becky Lovegrove: I can't remember what they call them now but for young children, and they have a really really good attendance, but they also then have gone into a communal garden in a social housing setting, and it's been so successful that they've been sort of commissioned to carry on that work. It's like an after school club, and it just it is an absolute. You know, it's been an incredible
267 00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:29.870 Becky Lovegrove: anchor for people and inspiration, and you know it's outdoors. It's active. You can see things growing. There's kind of seasonal element. And I think you're right. It's a really, really powerful lever to kind of get people interested. And then you're kind of having just having those conversations. Then, in that context.
268 00:51:29.970 --> 00:51:50.170 Becky Lovegrove: and the river is the other one, I think here the quality of the river, and how that relates to people's domestic choices. But if you can remember who it was that did the last banter presentation that was about that we'd love to have to link up, maybe, and maybe I can contact them
269 00:51:50.660 --> 00:51:55.589 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I'll put the link into the chat, Becky, to all our previous contacts
270 00:51:55.590 --> 00:51:57.959 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: I think there's a guy called Clive Bourse.
271 00:51:57.960 --> 00:51:58.980 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, yeah.
272 00:51:58.980 --> 00:52:00.110 Becky Lovegrove: Brilliant.
273 00:52:00.510 --> 00:52:19.180 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow-TC, Essex: I think the environment is something people can see every day they can touch it, they feel it. Whereas talking about net 0 and Co. 2 is something abstract and too big for them to think about. So I certainly think the environment aspects is a good way in
274 00:52:20.340 --> 00:52:45.689 Becky Lovegrove: Yeah, I agree. And we've got a whole biodiversity sort of projects running at the town council that doesn't rely on this funding. So they're quite active. They're called the wild bunch, which is, yeah. They just grew out of a kind of volunteer network, you know, and they're quite vibrant now. So that's that's exciting. As well. Yeah.
275 00:52:46.310 --> 00:52:51.080 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Thank you very much, Elizabeth. Did you want to send you? Oh, sorry I can. You got your hand up, man.
276 00:52:53.600 --> 00:53:01.230 Ken Huggins North Dorset PC: Just something we're trying with. Our Parish council here in North Dorset is to get people involved in the River of Flowers Project. I don't know if anybody's heard about that one.
277 00:53:01.380 --> 00:53:14.039 Ken Huggins North Dorset PC: but it's getting people to use their gardens or the the verge outside their house to grow flowers on with a means of providing corridors for pollinators to travel along. So we connect up areas where pollinators can
278 00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:34.609 Ken Huggins North Dorset PC: basically feed and support themselves. It's we're getting quite good feedback on that we're getting, I think, the sort of you know the river of flowers thing. It's it's very appealing. It gets the imagination going, certainly, as Becky's already mentioned, trying to tell people about how desperate the crisis is is absolutely totally non-productive, I'm afraid.
279 00:53:34.720 --> 00:53:39.699 Ken Huggins North Dorset PC: But yeah, so that's something that we've we've got a lot of response from the community on that one. So far
280 00:53:40.860 --> 00:53:41.310 Becky Lovegrove: Right?
281 00:53:41.310 --> 00:53:45.730 Becky Lovegrove: Brilliant. Yeah, I thought, is that a kind of national scheme? Can I look that up online?
282 00:53:46.460 --> 00:53:53.290 Ken Huggins North Dorset PC: Yes, I think it might even be international if I remember rightly. But yes, river of flowers. If you just have a look for that you'll see it, Becky.
283 00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:55.010 Becky Lovegrove: Perfect thanks.
284 00:53:55.010 --> 00:54:22.810 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Well, that sounds a nice, lovely, positive, enabling message. And one of the things of course, we're aware is we're not. There's probably not one single message that will reach and work with everybody. I think that's sort of a real sort of pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Somebody can can gauge that. But we've got an intern working with us at the moment, looking at the different audiences. And what what floats different people's boats, what ideas they can have
285 00:54:23.340 --> 00:54:24.150 Becky Lovegrove: Yeah.
286 00:54:24.150 --> 00:54:26.929 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Have you come across the climate outreach study, Becky.
287 00:54:27.858 --> 00:54:33.611 Becky Lovegrove: Yeah, I think I have read around that. But yeah, we we'd be really happy to
288 00:54:34.470 --> 00:54:38.239 Becky Lovegrove: share some kind of learn if you want your where are you based, Andrew?
289 00:54:38.460 --> 00:54:43.670 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I'm based. I'm living in the Forest of Dean, but we're doing a lot of work in East Anglia at the moment. Yeah.
290 00:54:44.010 --> 00:54:55.780 Becky Lovegrove: Yeah, okay, I was, gonna say, you know, we can, we can kind of link up around communications. But yeah, I think I get news newsletters from climate outreach, and
291 00:54:56.640 --> 00:55:02.381 Becky Lovegrove: I don't. My memory is not very good anymore, unfortunately, but it does ring a bell
292 00:55:02.740 --> 00:55:12.619 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I'll put that in the chat as well. They did some research. They found 7 different audiences for people that were up for climate change. But we're referring to it in different ways. And that's not including that's excluding the.
293 00:55:13.050 --> 00:55:14.609 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: It wasn't happening, you know.
294 00:55:14.610 --> 00:55:18.970 Becky Lovegrove: Was that act climate labs the 7. The audience segmentation
295 00:55:18.970 --> 00:55:19.979 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: It's segmentation. Yeah.
296 00:55:19.980 --> 00:55:42.799 Becky Lovegrove: Yes, yeah, yeah. So we've just the comms for change course that we've just run that it. It's like a collaboration between green and healthy Freeman adventure. We did a whole session on that and the other. The other one was the green, gold and bricks model. That was also highlighted in my presentation, which I'll send should I send it to Graham?
297 00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:43.940 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: By all means, yeah, yeah.
298 00:55:43.940 --> 00:55:47.342 Becky Lovegrove: Yeah, okay, brilliant. And then then you can see
299 00:55:48.030 --> 00:56:03.539 Becky Lovegrove: see all of that in there. But yeah, interesting models. And just remembering that we're in an echo Chamber, isn't it? Of people who are, you know, converted and slightly terrified, and that we don't represent necessarily our wider community. So
300 00:56:03.750 --> 00:56:06.528 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, well, we have. We has. We have to start somewhere. Oh.
301 00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:08.320 Becky Lovegrove: Yes, I don't think
302 00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:10.439 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But, Claudine, you've got your hand up
303 00:56:11.210 --> 00:56:36.739 Claudine Pearson: It was just to say that hello to Elizabeth and to Wendy. Wendy is a health and wellbeing officer at Ulster Town Council. We have been working together on a project for the integrated care partnership here in Coventry and Warwickshire, and that is actually serving our rural communities. So I have introduced green and healthy Proom
304 00:56:36.850 --> 00:56:57.579 Claudine Pearson: to the parish and town councils that are in our focus group. That's 5 and we would love. I've certainly suggested a study visit a study tour would be great. So hopefully between us, we can work something out that would work out to come and visit you. I've definitely made a note of the conference, but we'd love to talk
305 00:56:57.940 --> 00:57:22.219 Becky Lovegrove: Yeah, you'd be so so welcome. And yeah, the medical practice are absolutely extraordinary. And the other, the other thing I would recommend is if you sign up to the Cornwall Greener practice network emails because they they've they've already got an active community network down there. And you can see it's brilliant, because you can see all the things that they're doing, you know, and it just
306 00:57:22.510 --> 00:57:47.769 Becky Lovegrove: it just kind of ties it all in together. Yeah, I mean, I mean, obviously, we're yeah. We're a kind of town council, and they're working at a county level so that you know they've got. They've got a kind of resource. But it's a fascinating work, and it's so broad as well. The the different, you know, the different aspects that they highlight. So it's anything from people kind of traveling to work to kind of having green areas outside.
307 00:57:48.512 --> 00:57:55.250 Becky Lovegrove: You know, health settings and everything in between. It's just phenomenal
308 00:57:55.870 --> 00:57:56.660 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Thank you.
309 00:57:56.800 --> 00:58:05.517 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Great. Well, there's lots of ideas being put in the in the chat. Thanks so much for the link to that. The river of flowers. Concept. We've got things in there about
310 00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:16.969 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: also about volunteers growing wildflower plug plants to plant in community spaces. So that's another great way of engaging people. And, Pauline, thank you for putting the thing about the community nature reserve model.
311 00:58:17.090 --> 00:58:46.220 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I sometimes dub myself Mr. Allotments, because I'm a great fan of expanding the number of allotments because people can get out there, meet other people grow their own healthy food and the climate benefit. Of course there's less food arriving in the shops covered in plastic from some foreign nations. But there we are! That's my plug for allotments. Anybody else would like to add more points to share with with Becky. It's been a cracking presentation. Great discussion.
312 00:58:47.470 --> 00:59:05.760 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: what we're looking at, of course, is using these sessions to gather good practice and ideas from around the country and sharing with everybody else. These links can be linked through the great collaboration website. And there's a link under there for learning the Free Weekly sessions. You can get through to it there. But I put the link in the chat below
313 00:59:06.010 --> 00:59:11.319 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: any more points anybody else wanted to raise or or experiences to share with Becky just now
314 00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:17.359 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: we're all stunned. We're all stunned
315 00:59:17.645 --> 00:59:25.909 Becky Lovegrove: Andrew, can I just ask a question on that website? Can I also sign up so I can get invite? Can I be invited to future ones, of these
316 00:59:26.620 --> 00:59:34.190 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yes, I believe Graham takes a note of people who are connected, and he adds them to the circulation list. But I'll make sure that that happens.
317 00:59:34.930 --> 00:59:38.917 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Sweden, where they've got these things he might be needing. Okay,
318 00:59:39.790 --> 00:59:45.839 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: that's great. Thank you. I'll make. I'll make sure that he gets that he gets that note. I'll do that
319 00:59:46.330 --> 00:59:50.276 Becky Lovegrove: Perfect. Thank you so much for having me so my camera is not working, but
320 00:59:50.540 --> 01:00:10.309 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right. Yes, that question, Elizabeth. Yes, the the recording will be put, and the presentation we put on the knowledge base on on Wiki, as we call it, and that's accessible through the great collaboration website under under learning links. And I put, I put that link in the in the chat there for you, Elizabeth.
321 01:00:10.770 --> 01:00:21.790 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: so that that's you get. This is this is, I think this is Number 60 or 61. We've been started this early last year, and there's been a great selection of of talks over the Times.
322 01:00:22.100 --> 01:00:22.630 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Oh.
323 01:00:22.630 --> 01:00:23.720 Becky Lovegrove: Fantastic.
324 01:00:23.720 --> 01:00:36.490 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Well, Becky, thank you so much for coming on telling us today. There's been lots of food for thought there, and amazing to hear. I've always known that from was a leader in a lot of these areas, and it's great to hear it direct from yourselves as to how well it's going.
325 01:00:36.640 --> 01:00:53.609 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, thank you so much for that from all of us. Next week we have a speaker on Community Land Trusts, which is another interesting way of looking at things where? Where I was a parish client recently Long Hope, just down the road from where I live now the
326 01:00:54.160 --> 01:01:14.920 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: we found that developers were not producing enough affordable housing for local people, particularly not formal housing for rent. And so we elected well, we'd have to sort of develop our own through a community land trust model. They've started breaking ground then in building these things. So we'll be interested to hear what they have to say more about about community land trusts next week.
327 01:01:15.310 --> 01:01:16.030 Becky Lovegrove: Perfect.
328 01:01:16.030 --> 01:01:19.648 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Great Becky. Thank you so much. Thank you. Everybody for coming. And
329 01:01:20.330 --> 01:01:24.739 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: as we say often these meetings, let us go forward together. You will never surrender
330 01:01:26.200 --> 01:01:27.779 Becky Lovegrove: Thank you. Bye-bye.
331 01:01:27.780 --> 01:01:28.350 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: It's Becky.
332 01:01:28.350 --> 01:01:29.880 Claudine Pearson: Thanks, bye.
333 01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:30.530 Becky Lovegrove: Morning.
334 01:01:33.940 --> 01:01:36.510 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Hi, Elizabeth, how you doing
335 01:01:44.050 --> 01:01:46.930 Elisabeth Uggerloese: I'm fine sorry I was working at the same time
336 01:01:46.950 --> 01:01:48.179 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: It's all right. Okay.
337 01:01:48.795 --> 01:01:51.319 Elisabeth Uggerloese: I can. I can put myself on now.
338 01:01:52.210 --> 01:01:53.230 Elisabeth Uggerloese: We've
339 01:01:53.230 --> 01:01:58.079 Elisabeth Uggerloese: one of the reasons I'm asking is one of the groups that came out was bid for climate change. But it's
340 01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:01.319 Elisabeth Uggerloese: finding volunteers is damn difficult
341 01:02:03.160 --> 01:02:09.045 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right, indeed. How did the your community voice got your community? Your voice seems to develop into some kind of
342 01:02:09.340 --> 01:02:10.100 Elisabeth Uggerloese: Oh yes!
343 01:02:10.100 --> 01:02:10.820 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Just tiny bit of
344 01:02:10.820 --> 01:02:14.749 Elisabeth Uggerloese: We've got some active groups. We've got a Bidford showcase taking place this Saturday.
345 01:02:15.510 --> 01:02:24.190 Elisabeth Uggerloese: right? And then that will be followed by a 1 a sport one in. On the 19th of July.
346 01:02:25.043 --> 01:02:26.130 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Good. Okay.
347 01:02:26.130 --> 01:02:39.610 Elisabeth Uggerloese: So. Yes, it is moving. The climate change one it is. But it's very hard to get people engaged. So this is this was actually very interesting. That's why I was asking about the presentation
348 01:02:39.830 --> 01:02:42.480 Elisabeth Uggerloese: to see how Froome went about it. In the 1st place.
349 01:02:44.295 --> 01:02:44.930 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Good
350 01:02:45.150 --> 01:02:52.029 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: right. I've not been to see you lately, which is my fault, I'm sure. So I should come up and see how things are going. Yeah.
351 01:02:52.030 --> 01:02:54.830 Elisabeth Uggerloese: Okey Dokey. Well, I will leave you
352 01:02:55.230 --> 01:02:56.150 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Be by yourself. Yeah.
353 01:02:56.150 --> 01:02:57.720 Elisabeth Uggerloese: Okey! Dokey cheers, then
354 01:02:57.720 --> 01:02:58.219 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: All the best.
355 01:02:58.220 --> 01:03:01.779 Elisabeth Uggerloese: Bye, I'm trying to find out how I leave in this one
356 01:03:02.310 --> 01:03:02.970 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay.
357 01:03:02.970 --> 01:03:05.960 Elisabeth Uggerloese: It's changed all. It's everything's changed
358 01:03:07.530 --> 01:03:08.060 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah.
359 01:03:08.787 --> 01:03:12.790 Elisabeth Uggerloese: Here we are leaving you. Then hold on, there we go!
360 01:03:12.900 --> 01:03:14.630 Elisabeth Uggerloese: That's it. Bye.
361 01:03:14.630 --> 01:03:17.539 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Bye, Elizabeth, cheers. Are you all right there, Teresa?
362 01:03:18.130 --> 01:03:20.550 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We found the leave meeting button
363 01:03:35.780 --> 01:03:46.649 Tereza Cullum: To unmute. It's not right sorry I'm I'm just trying to copy and paste all the chats. I've got all the websites, and I'm on a chromebook, and it's just not doing the right thing. So
