Banter 36: Bringing Solutions Together, 11Sep24, Paul White
Paul takes us through the essential role of a community informatics service within the Voluntary, Community, and Social Enterprise (VCSE) sector.
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Paul takes us through the essential role of a community informatics service within the Voluntary, Community, and Social Enterprise (VCSE) sector.
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00:00 - 02:10 Introduction
02:10 - 26:55 Presentation
26:55 - 61:14 (end) Q & A
00:25:42 Amanda Davis: Great work Paul, I'm a Health Economist and couldn't agree more. Not just Public Health but Health Economists too. With previous labour govt, ran Tyne and Wear Health Action Zone. Aim: Tackling health inequalities. How? ALL stakeholders working together in a place. So much synergy in our work!
00:41:23 Amanda Davis: Citizen scientists networks
00:50:30 Paul White: paul.white@allabouttheplace.uk
00:50:44 Andrew Maliphant: Replying to "paul.white@allaboutt..."
Many thanks
00:59:02 Peter Anderson: Co-operatives sound like a great idea, but many struggle to fulfil their own manifesto, i.e. democratic engagement of members
01:01:53 Peter Anderson: There already is a map of co-ops .. will look for it
01:04:05 Peter Anderson: Here is one map of co-ops https://map.murmurations.network/?schema=organizations_schema-v1.0.0&tags=co-op
01:05:13 Peter Anderson: Has Paul researched Mondragon? Is that a good example of a co-op that is fit for purpose?
01:05:45 Peter Anderson: Is Timebanking a big component of Paul's vision?
01:08:02 Paul White: Replying to "Has Paul researched ..."
Yes this a greta example of how things can be done differently
01:08:53 Peter Bates: Sorry I need to go to my next 1pmm online meeting
01:09:38 Peter Bates: Thanks Paul
01:09:39 Peter Anderson: Area data can be gathered through OpenAPIs to build up heat maps of health of local areas. These heatmaps can then be used to inform suggestions and recommended interventions. Which can then lead to co-ordinated action
01:11:58 Paul White: Reacted to "Area data can be gat..." with 👍
01:13:11 Peter Anderson: Volunteers usually need paid coordinators to provide crucial capacity for organising.
01:13:46 Peter Anderson: Wondering if Paul is familiar with https://madeopen.co.uk/
01:14:00 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Thanks Paul - Need to go now to my next meeting.. 0
1:14:04 Paul White: Reacted to "Wondering if Paul is..." with 👍
01:14:26 Peter Anderson: Count me in!
01:14:40 Amanda Davis: Me too!
01:15:56 Peter Anderson: Definitely do-able and a group striving for a big vision is needed
01:18:58 Peter Anderson: So often mapping projects are done in silo. Consider doing it in a way that contributes to a larger whole for wider benefit
01:19:48 Peter Anderson: Something like the Murmurations Protocol is a good example https://murmurations.network/
01:20:05 Andrew Maliphant: Replying to "So often mapping pro..."
There is already an environmental data network meeting, I guess we're talking about other sources as well
01:21:59 Peter Anderson: There is no shortage of funding / impact investment - but they need investment ready teams with a big vision
01:25:25 Peter Anderson: Depends how you define wealth ;-)
01:25:41 Peter Anderson: Wales experimenting with new well-being indicators
01:27:14 Peter Anderson: Let make GDP irrelevant .. we need to create a new system to make the old system (GDP) obsolete.
01:28:33 Amanda Davis: Replying to "Let make GDP irrelev..."
GDP is the annual national production output in monetary £ terms. This can alternatively be experessed in community good generated in a year instead!
01:29:02 Peter Anderson: Reacted to "GDP is the annual na..." with 👍
01:29:36 Paul White: Reacted to "GDP is the annual na..." with 👍
The meeting discussed the importance of community development, sustainability, and the potential of the nonprofit sector in addressing sustainability challenges. The development of an online platform for community consultation and problem-solving was also discussed, with a focus on creating a national hub that can be tailored to local needs. The potential for cooperative models in various sectors was highlighted, along with the need for a sustainable business model and the importance of sharing data and creating a social purpose-driven model.
Paul to build a consortia of interested parties for co-design and co-development of the community informatics platform.
Paul to work on developing a proof of concept solution by March, with a business case for additional funding.
Andrew, Graham and Paul to discuss integrating Amanda's national landscape mapping project in their upcoming meeting.
Paul to explore incorporating ecological measures into the social impact and value metrics.
Paul and team to investigate sustainable business models for the community informatics platform.
Paul to look into ways of capturing and harnessing new project requirements and opportunities discussed in meetings.
Peter Anderson to follow up with Amanda regarding mapping project principles and data sustainability.
Paul to consider incorporating cooperative mapping as a layer in the informatics platform.
Managing Meeting Issues and Event Postponement
Andrew, Graham, Peter Bates, Paul, and other participants discussed a meeting issue where Andrew was initially unable to manage the meeting due to a lack of host privileges. Graham eventually took over as the host. The group also discussed a potential event on the 24th, with a speaker from Climate Outreach possibly attending. However, due to a scheduling conflict, the event was postponed. Paul White was introduced to the group, and it was mentioned that he would be presenting a presentation about improving ground action through wider connections. The conversation ended with Andrew introducing himself and welcoming other participants.
Managing Climate Change and Biodiversity Through Community Development
Andrew introduced Paul Scott, who has been working on managing climate change and biodiversity on a larger scale. Paul discussed his work in the nonprofit sector, recognizing the value it brings to community development. He emphasized that change and transformation are more likely to come from communities than institutions, and that connecting with these communities is key to enabling change. Paul also introduced his organization, Good Eco Solutions, and its portfolio, All About The Place, which aims to fill a gap in understanding community service provisions and how institutions can leverage them. He highlighted the significant economic impact of failing to address sustainability challenges and the potential of the nonprofit sector in addressing these issues.
Building Informatics Services for Community Development
Paul discussed the vision of his organization to fill the gap in community development by building an informatics service and utilizing technology to make it accessible to various stakeholders. He highlighted the importance of sustainability and the need to understand what it means in the development process. Paul also mentioned the base solutions they have established and the large study they conducted on social impact and value measures across different determinants of wellbeing. He emphasized the importance of proximity in community development and the need for a narrative to tell the story of place and people. Paul also discussed the use of artificial intelligence technologies to build stories and narratives around placemaking and the importance of capturing real-time intelligence from the sector. He concluded by emphasizing the need to value local community service provision and local community effort in an entirely different way.
National Solution for Community Needs Development
Paul discussed the development of a national solution to support local community needs, with a focus on the VCSC sector and integrated care systems. He mentioned partnerships with various nonprofit organizations and the use of innovative technologies like the "quiet voice methodology" to engage with communities and hear their needs. The goal is to create a platform for equitable participation among community members, nonprofit organizations, businesses, and public sector organizations. Paul also highlighted the importance of leveraging local intelligence and encouraging businesses to contribute their skills to community projects. He mentioned the potential for connecting with other value propositions and the involvement of various groups in the design of the solution.
Maximizing Opportunities and Shifting Approaches
Paul discussed the potential of a 450 billion opportunity and the importance of maximizing it through smarter and more effective approaches. He emphasized the need for a shift from the boom and bust cycle and the importance of measuring improvements. Andrew agreed with Paul's points and added that there is a need for better understanding of the public sector and town and parish councils. He also mentioned the lack of a professional association for community-led regeneration and placemaking. Amanda, a health economist, shared her experience of working in a similar space and emphasized the importance of data and information in making things indisputable. She also highlighted the need for a common vision and motivation to bring disparate communities together.
Addressing Economic-Driven Healthcare Decisions
Paul expresses frustration with economic-driven decision-making in healthcare, believing it stifles commitment to social value. He suggests celebrating community initiatives can shift towards a more positive, sustainable approach. Amanda agrees with Paul's perspective on continuous improvement. Peter Bates highlights the expertise available locally and challenges engaging parish councils. He discusses collecting data through partnerships and utilizing citizen science contributions. The discussion centers on effectively utilizing resources to support community-level, socially-driven initiatives.
Developing a National Community Consultation Platform
Paul discussed the development of an online platform for community consultation and problem-solving, with the aim of creating a national hub that can be tailored to local needs. He emphasized the importance of social value and community ownership, and the need for a business-like approach to sustainability. Paul also highlighted the potential of cooperatives in addressing community challenges and generating income for social good. Amanda, a director of a cooperative, shared her experience and suggested mapping existing cooperatives to facilitate collaboration. Both agreed on the potential of cooperatives to grow and the need for government support.
Exploring Cooperative Models and Data Integration
Paul and Andrew discussed the potential for cooperative models in various sectors, including utilities, rail companies, education, and healthcare. They agreed that such models could lead to more efficient and effective service delivery, as well as better alignment with community needs. Paul also emphasized the importance of sustainability and community engagement in these models. Andrew raised concerns about the technical aspects of data integration and reporting, to which Paul responded that open architecture platforms could facilitate interoperability and data sharing. They concluded that the key to successful collaboration lies in creating a space for innovators and entrepreneurs to work together towards solving problems, without the need for commercial interests.
Sustainability, Continuous Improvement, and Empowerment
Paul discussed the importance of sustainability and continuous improvement in their projects, emphasizing the need to break the cycle of repeated meetings and solutions that disappear over time. He highlighted the value proposition of their personalized solutions, which impact people's lives, health, and well-being. Paul also mentioned the potential of empowering people with new skills and capabilities, allowing them to move forward independently. Andrew agreed with Paul's vision and suggested the need for a consortia of interested people to guide the code design and development process. Paul confirmed this, stating that they are building a consortia and aiming to have a proof of concept solution by March. Amanda, in a humorous analogy, compared her work to Mr. Ben's, suggesting that their work is about understanding the cultural national landscape.
Parish Collaboration and Accessibility Initiatives
Amanda, representing 38 parish and town councils in the north coast, discussed the Wellbeing and Inclusion Group's efforts to increase accessibility and inclusion in national landscapes. She expressed interest in potential collaboration with Paul's team, who are working on a commissions basis to develop a parish online platform. Paul confirmed that they are open to partnerships and are looking to add new layers to their platform. Amanda suggested that her group's mapping project could fit into this, and Paul agreed, noting that they are looking to add new layers to their platform. The team agreed to further discuss potential collaboration in a future meeting.
Creating Sustainable Business Models and Sharing Data
Peter Anderson discussed the importance of creating a sustainable business model, emphasizing the need for a big vision and social utility. He also highlighted the issue of many mapping projects being done in silo and disappearing once funding is gone. Paul agreed, stressing the importance of sharing data and creating a social purpose-driven model. He also expressed frustration over the lack of seed funding for social entrepreneurs and the difficulty of securing funding for community projects. The team agreed to continue the conversation and explore ways to demonstrate the social values and impact of their projects.