Claudine introduces us to the role played by sport in our wellbeing, the issues being forced on sports by climate change, and the resulting sustainability policies at national level; and encourages us to think how these can be applied at the parish and community levels./
Video Timeline (Min:sec):
00.00 - 04:27 Introduction to Claudine
04:27 - 18:21 Presentation
18:21 - 60:00 (end) Q & A
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Claudine's dicussion was based on this statement:
Sport England launched its sustainability strategy in May 2024, stating “We believe nothing has the potential to suppress physical activity, along with the health and happiness benefits it brings, more than climate change – whether it's disrupting major events or thwarting mass participation.And it will be those least active and most deprived who'll suffer the most. We know participation levels are being affected by the increasing prevalence of extreme weather events such as heatwaves and flooding.
And, like the rest of society, the sport and physical activity sector is contributing to, and exacerbating, these effects.
We have multiple impacts on the environment, through energy consumption in our facilities and in travelling to participation opportunities, and through the equipment we use and waste we create.”
Grassroots sports clubs and recreational grounds play a significant role in the physical and social health and wellbeing of local communities. The vast majority are volunteer-led and already face significant challenges to maintain facilities. How can we help fix the leaking roof and tackle climate change?
Presentation:
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00:16:00 Nik Mckiernan: Hi. Listening on audio only 👍
00:17:34 Peter Bates: I will need to leave at 12:40 to go and do some paid work!!
00:25:39 Garry Ford: Andrew, is it the official view of the IPCC that 1.5C has been breached?
00:35:49 Amanda Davis: Personally Feeding the slugs well in the Cotswolds!!
00:42:51 Amanda Davis: Belbin named his Plant well
00:44:54 Amanda Davis: Remember the huge power in FOMO!!!
00:51:10 Peter Bates: For the Burwell Carnival - we had an initial focus on “Health and the impact of Climate Change “ based upon some research done at Imperial College, London See https://preview.shorthand.com/2pu7UIS8FPoNTki6?link_id=3&can_id=9b0d8ae2a9d7df014011998175b7a68d&source=email-imaginarium-burwell-carnival-follow-up&email_referrer=email_2374314&email_subject=imaginarium-burwell-carnival-follow-up 00:51:32 Peter Bates: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/grantham/publications/briefing-papers/?link_id=5&can_id=9b0d8ae2a9d7df014011998175b7a68d&source=email-imaginarium-burwell-carnival-follow-up&email_referrer=email_2374314&email_subject=imaginarium-burwell-carnival-follow-up
00:58:06 Garry Ford: I use a slide with 18 impacts of climate change for the UK
00:58:42 Amanda Davis: Child pester power is great too. When footie fields flood, this is a way for the kids teams to "educate / interest / desire" and take back into home
00:59:03 Amanda Davis: Replying to "I use a slide with 1..."
would love to see that Garry
01:01:50 Garry Ford: Replying to "I use a slide with 1..."
I can send it to you Amanda
01:02:08 Amanda Davis: Replying to "I use a slide with 1..."
amandadavisprojects@gmail.com
01:02:15 Amanda Davis: Reacted to "I can send it to you..." with ❤️
01:03:39 Amanda Davis: Let's talk about climate change... Linda Aspey ….. addresses psychology
01:04:21 Amanda Davis: How Climate psychology can improve our climate conversations
01:04:49 Belinda Bawden: Climate Deniers are alive and well in Lyme Regis, I'm afraid!
The town council recently undertook a public consultation on our 20mph proposal and an anti-Climate Change group called Climate Con jumped on it and skewed the results to say 'No'. The climate deniers on the town council are cock-a-hoop and will no doubt reject the proposal on the strength of the skewed public survey.
We also have organised climate deniers disrupting meetings and hustings in the south west.
01:07:08 Jacky Lawrence, Napton PC Climate and Environment Working Party: Reacted to "Climate Deniers are ..." with 😭
01:07:19 Amanda Davis: Health Education behaviour change lessons re quit smoking in the naughties
01:07:45 Linda Cox: Town councils seem to be full of climate deniers, though things are changing with the push to achieve net zero. About 10 years ago cycling group I am in proposed a few routes so children could cycle to school and people get around town easier, we were treated like idiots and called a minority pressure group!
01:07:48 Helen Dye: Climate deniers are also alive and kicking in Cambridgeshire!
01:12:39 tristram cary: Belinda I'm sorry to hear that you have climate deniers, but in my experience they mostly accept there is a climate crisis but they don't agree that the suggested solutions are effective. For instance they may think 20 mph is damaging to the economy.
01:13:25 Bonny Williams: Replying to "Here's a link to the..."
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01:13:30 tristram cary: I'm sorry but I need to leave now. Thank you Andrew.
01:13:44 Garry Ford: Replying to "Belinda I'm sorry to..."
Tristram, Reform are very clear in their message that climate change is not caused by humans.
01:14:30 Belinda Bawden: Replying to "Here's a link to the..."
01:15:20 Bonny Williams: Replying to "Here's a link to the..."
No probs, Belinda 01:17:02 Amanda Davis: Replying to "Here's a link to the..."
@Bonny Williams may I have this too please amandadavisprojects@gmail.com MANY thanks
01:17:03 frank deas: Thanks everyone for really helpful conversations and ideas. need to go now
01:19:11 Helen Dye: Replying to "Belinda I'm sorry to..."
Quote from the Reform candidate for the Huntingdon Constituency: "In the war on the motorist, I'm firmly on the side of the motorist, which in practice means 90% of the public and business."
01:20:53 Tim Rickard: In the Forest of Dean we have a comprehensive Climate Action Plan. See also, Lancaster, Cornwall, Lewes and many others….
01:22:13 Bonny Williams: Replying to "Here's a link to the..."
Yes, of course, Amanda.
01:23:07 Amanda Davis: Replying to "Here's a link to the..."
🙏 01:23:14 sarah woffenden: thank you very much excellent - really helpful
01:23:16 Tim Rickard: Thank you, Andrew, Bravo!
01:23:20 Belinda Bawden: Dorset Council has a great Sustainability team and Strategy but have struggled, in my opinion, to reach out to their county with their expertise and practical actions. We're working on it as we have a new (LibDem) administration
01:23:44 Belinda Bawden: Thanks, Andrew!
Meeting Summary for 14Aug24:
Aug 14, 2024 11:47 AM London ID: 834 5460 8536
Claudine, a newly appointed climate officer, led a discussion on the impact of climate change on sports and the importance of sustainability strategies in sports. The team also discussed the financial implications of implementing sustainability strategies, the importance of adaptation and mitigation strategies in sports clubs, and the need for further discussions on solutions.
Climate Change, Sports, and Sustainability Discussion
Claudine expressed her concerns about presenting solely through slides, recalling previous successful discussions without visual aids. She then proceeded to present on the impact of climate change on sports, using a recent article by Chris Boardman as a reference. The team welcomed new attendees and discussed ongoing improvements, with Jools experiencing some technical difficulties. Claudine, a newly appointed climate officer, shared her belief in the power of sport to transform communities and her involvement in various organizations promoting sustainability. The discussion also revealed diverse sports-related interests and activities among the attendees, with Claudine inviting feedback and questions on sustainability strategies.
Climate Change and Sports Disruption
Claudine led a discussion on the impact of climate change on sports. She highlighted how extreme weather and water quality issues have disrupted sporting events, such as the Paris Olympics and the British Association for Sustainability in Sport's concern for international athletes. Claudine also mentioned the Worcester Cricket Club's potential move due to flooding and the link between climate change and popular sports like golf, football, and cricket. She also noted local issues, such as water quality problems in the River Wye and the cancellation of a regatta due to lack of water.
Sports, Sustainability, and Collaboration Efforts
Claudine initiated a discussion about the relationship between sports and sustainability, highlighting both the positive and negative impacts of sports on the environment. She emphasized the role of sports clubs in tackling climate change and the importance of sustainability strategies. Claudine also discussed the efforts of various sports organizations in developing sustainability strategies and the need for collaboration with local communities and environmental groups. Andrew raised concerns about the financial implications of implementing sustainability strategies in sports, while Stuart shared his recent interest in sustainability and mentioned Forest Green's efforts to build a carbon-neutral stadium.
Sustainable Sports and Environmental Challenges
Claudine and Stuart discussed the importance of promoting sustainable practices in sports, using examples like Forest Green to encourage more eco-friendly behavior. Amanda shared her experiences in dragon boating and highlighted the challenges of competing on an international level, as well as the issue of flooding affecting sports grounds and the problem of light pollution from sports facilities. She also invited participation in a class action against polluters and shared her role as a director with Minnie County Co-OP, which is funding a community fund to encourage sustainability-based bids from sports clubs. Lastly, Jools and Claudine discussed the impact of transport and travel on sports and the environment, and proposed a follow-up conversation to further explore these topics.
Strategic Collaboration on Climate Resilience Studies
tim proposed increasing engagement with Claudine in the hub, while Jacky suggested strategic collaboration on climate resilience studies. Claudine emphasized the importance of adaptation and mitigation strategies in sports clubs in response to climate change, highlighting the need for risk assessments and policies to ensure athlete safety. Amanda proposed a model biodiversity policy for clubs and suggested ways to reduce energy bills and promote sustainability, including composting and using green spaces. David stressed the need to address the integrated set of problems, including biodiversity and net-zero awareness, beyond individual issues.
Adaptability, Sports, and Climate Solutions
David discussed the human body's adaptability to extreme temperatures and the importance of considering the wet bulb globe temperature (WBGT) when planning activities. Claudine highlighted the impact of extreme temperatures on sports pitches and the wider environmental implications, emphasizing the need to consider playing fields as potential sources of energy. She proposed further discussions on solutions in a few months. Andrew introduced Ed Gimbels, a climate activist and leader of the climate party, as the speaker for the next meeting.
To Do list:
Claudine to follow up with Jools regarding transport and travel aspects of Sport England's strategy.
Claudine to research and provide examples of climate adaptation strategies for sports clubs.
Tim to connect with Claudine to discuss potential collaboration with the Midlands Net Zero Hub.
Claudine to investigate Sport England's guidance on climate adaptation for clubs.
Claudine to prepare a more comprehensive presentation on sports and sustainability solutions for a future meeting.
Andrew to facilitate Ed Gimbels' presentation at the next meeting.
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Andrew Maliphant: Manager
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Andrew Maliphant: alright! So
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Andrew Maliphant: Welcome, Jonathan.
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Stuart Withington: Hi Andrew.
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Andrew Maliphant: Good. Aye.
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Andrew Maliphant: One or 2 other people have said the same. So I'm just
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Andrew Maliphant: I think they will join us shortly.
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Andrew Maliphant: Yes, interesting times. Yeah.
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Andrew Maliphant: course, I can't speak to Graham about it, because he's in the middle of the Bay Biscay at the moment.
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Stuart Withington: And yeah.
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Andrew Maliphant: I did. I've I actually learned some sailing the other way, many, 1984. It was
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Andrew Maliphant: Okay?
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Andrew Maliphant: Well, I've sent the Zoom passwords to a couple of folks. Let's see if that works with them.
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Mary Moore: Hello! Everyone.
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Andrew Maliphant: Hello.
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Andrew Maliphant: Hi, Helen, yeah, there was. I'm not quite sure what's up today, normally. We can log in on the actual day of the event, but it wasn't letting us do it today.
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Nik Mckiernan: Hey? Dad's!
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Andrew Maliphant: Hi, Matisse, yeah.
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Andrew Maliphant: Nick, that you're listening on audio? Great?
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Andrew Maliphant: welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Apologies for the slightly slow start caused by I don't know what, but we'll get it sorted.
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Andrew Maliphant: Those other people are still trying to get in, but we'll give it a go for those who've not met my lovely face before. My name is Andrew Malafant. I'm just coming. No, I haven't just come up with the word. I'm here from the great collaboration we're going to talk about. What are the messages that we can get across to people quite often when we're doing training events, or maybe even training events like this, we find ourselves preaching to the converted. Then eventually those numbers dwindle because the people who are converted are getting good stuff from elsewhere. They don't have to listen to us anymore.
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Andrew Maliphant: So where? What is the way of getting our messages across to people who are not perhaps as committed as we are.
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Andrew Maliphant: This is an early stages, because time was when we had different messages, which all seemed gone past their sale by date, and be very glad to hear from what people are thinking about, how we might add
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Andrew Maliphant: some extra messages just now, and how we might devise them. So this meeting is being recorded, the ideas that we have will be collected. Very keen myself to get some of these messages straight, and how we do them.
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Andrew Maliphant: This is a great Irish community, called Frank Carson, and his catchphrase goes was the way we the way I tell him it's the way I tell him
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Andrew Maliphant: sadly. No longer with us. Where we are today. I think it is the way we tell him the word climate turns about a 3rd of our audience off at the moment.
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Andrew Maliphant: But we have to think of different ways of getting our message across, because different people are thinking about this in different ways.
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Andrew Maliphant: So, for example, I went to events in Cardiff the other week, and they said, it's no good trying to get Pete engaged in an atmosphere of impending doom. We're all doomed if we have that sort of atmosphere that's not going to work very well.
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Andrew Maliphant: We know what the issues are. We can see it very clearly on that graph from NASA. We understand what the issues are ourselves. But that isn't going to actually make the big difference to a number of people out there in our nation, Great Britain, the United Kingdom. So let's have a look
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Andrew Maliphant: at the whole issue. Some of the messages that have come out so far on the topic that which we engaged in
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Andrew Maliphant: going all the way back to 1972 there was this Stockholm Conference. I was still at school at the time. I don't know anybody else remembers that everyone deserves a clean, healthy environment, was apparently the summary from that particular event
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Andrew Maliphant: we know about the Brunton Commission, our common future, which is a publication. We can get online
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Andrew Maliphant: making use of the resources. But while making sure that future generations also have access to resources which is a longer way of putting the same thing together. So these things have been around for a while. Real World Summit 1992. Of course.
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Andrew Maliphant: lots of things were being said at that occasion, some great international cooperation on that. Again, Thomas may remember agenda 21. We're certainly getting a whole lot more detail, combating poverty, conserving, managing natural resources, system and agriculture, and so forth. All these notes are going to be shared at the end of the meeting. Also. Don't, don't frankly have to write all these things down.
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Andrew Maliphant: So you know, there's been a lot going on for a while, and it's being the messages in a way, been getting more detailed as we go along
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Andrew Maliphant: into the governmental panel on climate change, said, in 2,015,
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Andrew Maliphant: global warming goes an average of 1.5 degrees centigrade above pre-industrial levels. They may lead to irreversible changes.
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Andrew Maliphant: And that was a message that we've been using quite a lot of using. Quite recently.
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Andrew Maliphant: However, we reached that last year.
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Andrew Maliphant: So what are we going to say next? Because I certainly can't say that anymore, were the positive messages. Let's think about what can we say things in in a positive way
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Andrew Maliphant: rather than I say, the the impending doom?
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Andrew Maliphant: There's a an image from a cartoon character called chicken. Little as somebody read the story of Chicken Little. The sky is falling, the sky is falling, and it was all part of a calm by the foxes to get him into the hen house.
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Andrew Maliphant: So we have a problem here. What are we going to say next?
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Andrew Maliphant: So just have a bit of a think about. What are the steps of the effective communication, anyway? Here's 1 of the most famous communicating posters of all time, the Lord Kitchen and the 1st World War.
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Andrew Maliphant: So obviously, we've got to say what our message is. We know what our message is and what we're trying to get across, so have to think about
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Andrew Maliphant: who we're going to get it across to. Okay. Those are all who are audiences for it. I think
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Andrew Maliphant: If we're if we're clued up and sensible, we would then redraft our messages according to supply reply. There's a conversation starts. There's a conversation. If the message hasn't hit the spot. Then we have to think about how it might hit the spot.
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Andrew Maliphant: This seems to be the sort of place we're all in at the moment, you know, we've got to think about what is the effective message and how we get it across, but also listening to people and see what they say to it when they hear it, because other people people have other different priorities that have other things on their minds.
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Andrew Maliphant: So let's have a look at the audiences. Now, we've got here something that was being researched by the charity called climate outreach. So the only charity, only British charity focusing on public engagement with climate change, which is certain. Quite something. So they've done this work. There's a link there to where the the work is there. And they've
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Andrew Maliphant: So progressive activists, they say, vocal and passionate, politically active. I won't read out all of these things because it's there.
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Andrew Maliphant: Civic pragmatists. People are wanting to do stuff. They'd like to get their hands dirty, get into stuff. They want to know how to do things. They're looking to support progressive climate policies when they see them. So show me they need to see.
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Andrew Maliphant: They need to see what they can do, what can make a difference. So this is about showing people that something happening. So this this is a theme to come back to, I think, as we go forward. So that's an 8th of the population will likely to get involved
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Andrew Maliphant: Disengaged battlers. These are people who are having trouble making ends meet, keeping their lives together, doing all the things that they have to do to survive from day to day, and they may think it's important, but they actually haven't got the time to do it. Get involved in it.
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Andrew Maliphant: We get a bit of that from people. The fact that China is actually put in more solar panels over the last 12 months than United States have since the fabric was found. It is not in there that with this ways we might have to then respond to some of these things. What I was learning to be. A says being taught how to be a salesman. By the way, I was trying to get
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Andrew Maliphant: so we need to listen to what people feel is important to them, and adjust our messages accordingly. People will say different things. I had a talk from save our Shropshire the other day, and Richard Watkins was very much saying this point, what is important to them? Let's hear what they have to say.
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Andrew Maliphant: So what is the practical vision for the future. I've seen some various descriptions of it, but it's a very brave person who can say that they know exactly what the world we're moving toward is going to be look like when we get there. We know it's going to be looked like what we were like when we were children. What's it going to look like in the future.
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