Maddie introduces us to the heartwarming story of her project in Dove Street, Bristol, in which involving the community in creating a mural brought everyone together and fostered an amazing reaction
Last updated
00:00 - 22:58 Maddie's presentation 2
2:58 - end Q & A session, as detailed below:
22:58 - 26:48 Funding and Follow-up
26:48 - 33:41 Climate Colonialism
33:41 - 38:28 Community Engagement
38:28 - 30:00 Relating the local problems to Global Climate Change
30:00 - 45:30 Spreading the word....
45:30 - 46:50 Safety
46:50 - 48:00 Next steps for Maddie
48:00 - 50:36 (end) Next week's session
Link to more files, videos, etc:
In Instagram, go to: @the_colour_of_change
There is a video there: click on the circle icon called "1st Mural". (Please note that this is a video which turns over slowly - it is worth the wait!)
May 21, 2025 11:48 AM London ID: 834 5460 8536
Maddie McGregor presented her community mural project in Bristol that addressed climate change and community engagement, highlighting the importance of local involvement and diverse representation. The session concluded with a discussion on climate colonialism, the value of direct community engagement, and future plans for climate action, including an upcoming presentation on national adaptation and mitigation strategies.
Maddy joined the meeting briefly to discuss her presentation on the Muriel project, which Andrew agreed to host, before Graham had to leave for another commitment.
Maddie McGregor was introduced to present on a community mural project related to climate action. She shared her screen and began her presentation, which was scheduled to be recorded and posted on the Great Collaboration website. The session was set to include a question and answer period after Maddie's talk.
Maddie presented a project that involved creating a mural in Bristol's Stokescroft area to address climate change and local social issues. The project aimed to engage residents in discussing climate change and its local impacts, such as air pollution, litter, and homelessness. Through workshops, the team identified solutions like promoting cycling, reclaiming outdoor spaces, and connecting different community members. Maddie emphasized the importance of representing diverse demographics in the mural and ensuring community ownership of the project.
Maddie described a community painting project that transformed a large wall over three weekends, involving sanding, priming, and painting with the help of local residents. The initiative, which included face painting for children, free pizzas, and tea, successfully brought together diverse community members, including Julie, an elderly resident with disabilities who was particularly grateful for the mural's inclusion of her late cat. Despite some tagging incidents, the team persevered, and the project culminated in a celebration featuring the Mayor of Bristol, music, and presents for the children who participated.
Maddie presentedher mural project in Bristol that addressed climate change and community engagement. She explained the design process, funding sources (including Imperial War and Bristol City Council), and follow-up activities such as planting and park improvements. Olivia asked about funding and follow-up actions, to which Maddie responded with details about the project's financial aspects and future plans. Andrew inquired about the initials GCC: "Global Climate Change".
Maddie explained climate colonialism, highlighting how global North countries exploit global South regions through climate change, unequal policy representation, and resource extraction. She emphasized the need for decolonizing climate action to address these issues. Olivia asked how to link local issues to wider climate problems, and Maddie suggested focusing on community-led, locally relevant actions like indigenous knowledge and community gardening.
Maddie shared her experience organizing community workshops in Bristol, emphasizing the importance of focusing on what individuals can control in their local areas to inspire change. She highlighted the success of engaging residents through personal interactions, such as door-to-door visits and face-to-face conversations, and noted the role of local artists and experts in fostering community involvement. Andrew and Olivia agreed on the value of direct engagement and the need to adapt strategies to different communities, while David raised concerns about accessing community spaces in his area. The discussion also touched on the importance of safety measures and the need for local knowledge to prevent issues during community projects.
Maddie presented her inspiring project on community engagement and shared her plans for the future, including growing her business, completing her dissertation, and becoming a climate educator. Andrew announced that the next meeting will feature Louise Max Evans, who will discuss climate change adaptation and mitigation strategies at the national level. The group discussed the importance of both individual action and advocacy for broader change in addressing climate issues.
No relevant chat this session
152 00:16:54.550 --> 00:16:58.759 maddie mcgregor: I'm learning a lot. Here, guys, I'm getting reciprocal energy.
153 00:16:59.180 --> 00:17:03.400 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: That's a nice phrase, isn't it? Reciprocal energy? I remember that from my memoirs. Yeah.
154 00:17:03.400 --> 00:17:04.490 maddie mcgregor: Yeah.
155 00:17:05.420 --> 00:17:10.060 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Well shall we make the start, then, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this session
156 00:17:10.579 --> 00:17:34.240 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: a banter session on the 21st of May. We are going to have some great talks shortly from Maddie Mcgregor, who's going to tell us about a community Mural project and how that relates to climate action, which is a fascinating initiative. So we'll hear more about that. Just to remind everybody that this is going to be recorded. This session, it will be posted on the great collaboration website.
157 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:43.699 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: And so if you'd rather not appear in person, you can always turn off your your video. But we'll listen to hear what Maddie has to say, we're looking forward to that, and then
158 00:17:43.790 --> 00:17:52.950 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: we have it. Your usual questions, sessions afterwards. So, Maddy, very rich, welcome. This is your second time at eventor session. Do you have a presentation you wish to share with us?
159 00:17:52.950 --> 00:17:57.210 maddie mcgregor: Yes, I do. I can share my screen now, if that's okay.
160 00:17:57.210 --> 00:17:58.250 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Yeah, go for it.
161 00:17:58.740 --> 00:18:03.669 maddie mcgregor: Feel like the lecturers in Covid trying to share my screen.
162 00:18:03.980 --> 00:18:07.009 maddie mcgregor: No, I'm I'm I'm techie. I'm Kentucky. I can manage.
163 00:18:07.010 --> 00:18:07.600 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Hey!
164 00:18:11.380 --> 00:18:16.620 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Give it a second. Okay, can everyone see that? All right? Yeah.
165 00:18:16.890 --> 00:18:25.519 maddie mcgregor: Okay. So for those of you who don't know I'm Maddie, and I was on a band session last year talking about
166 00:18:25.870 --> 00:18:31.647 maddie mcgregor: what was it climate education and how we can teach scary climate science without
167 00:18:32.260 --> 00:18:52.639 maddie mcgregor: basically, the scariness associated with it because it's good not to shy away from climate change, despite the, you know, bad social repercussions that could come with that, and that also links to this mural as well. So that's sort of like the main theme for this we're going to talk about why, it's important to take action, despite the fact that it can have
168 00:18:52.740 --> 00:19:19.989 maddie mcgregor: some social implications and how we can minimise those. So I'm still a face painter. So I still have my face painting business. And I've actually managed to move to Bristol. And I'm currently doing a master's in climate change, science, and policy. I'm very much so at the start of my career, so I'm sure I can come on about a session every year, and it can keep getting better and better. So you're not seeing the end of me, Andrew Graham. It's all right.
169 00:19:20.020 --> 00:19:40.790 maddie mcgregor: So basically, whilst of studying. I actually got I've achieved like a paid role to basically come up with the workshops to map how we are going to put on a Mural project. So a mural is basically like meaningful art on a wall. I think that's what it is based off of what we've done here.
170 00:19:40.980 --> 00:19:44.690 maddie mcgregor: So basically in this project. We really wanted to capture
171 00:19:44.790 --> 00:20:13.390 maddie mcgregor: climate change, and the emotions associated with climate change was the 1st stance that we came to. But it's kind of shaped and flowed with the community. And it was really really important for Cammy, who is the girl here, very, very proud of her green brush and paint everywhere all over her coat. This was basically her idea. And she's actually a 1st year student in Bristol studying biology. And when I met her she said that it was on her bucket list to do a mural.
172 00:20:13.390 --> 00:20:32.119 maddie mcgregor: and I honestly had no idea what that was, but I was like. Sure I'm in. We can do it. And within like 2 months we managed to put this on, engage the community, paint and complete everything within a very short amount of time, because we had limited time to actually spend the money that she got.
173 00:20:32.410 --> 00:20:53.409 maddie mcgregor: So yeah, so to just set the scene a little bit. So this is actually based in Stokescroft, in Bristol. I don't know if anyone has been to Bristol before, but it's basically essentially a really vibrant area that's full of murals all over the walls on buildings. If you've heard of Banksy, there's like a lot of Banksy art down there.
174 00:20:53.938 --> 00:21:01.880 maddie mcgregor: Now, more specifically, Dove Street, which is where the mule was, was just behind Stokescroft's, like busy High Street
175 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:10.639 maddie mcgregor: and the characteristics of this sort of urban area is like lots of high rise like block of flats
176 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:33.660 maddie mcgregor: there, I can just say there's a lot of antisocial behaviour there. There is green spaces, but they are sort of taken over by homelessness, or like lots of drugs, that sort of thing. But there, as well as that, there is lots of lovely families of all different faiths and multicultures, and everyone gets on really well in that sense, lots of children.
177 00:21:33.660 --> 00:21:57.450 maddie mcgregor: but also lots of scary things, too. So that was sort of where we were going into and what we were dealing with, and what's interesting as well is on Dub Street. There's actually already many murals. So this one on the right is a picture of a mural that Mike, one of the artists, was involved with just down the road. And so walking up Dove Street, you've got murals everywhere which is really cute.
178 00:21:57.980 --> 00:22:08.739 maddie mcgregor: So basically step one for us was to go into one of these tower blocks using their community room and put on 3 design sessions.
179 00:22:08.740 --> 00:22:30.379 maddie mcgregor: and me and Cami had to be super adaptable and super flexible in this, because there was a lot of barriers that came about. So, for example, it wasn't until that exact day that we actually knew we could get into the community room, and we were leaflet in the blocks like sending around on social media. It was really important to Cammy
180 00:22:30.590 --> 00:22:41.910 maddie mcgregor: that we made sure that we actually got the residents in. And it wasn't just people from university, or, you know, people in Bristol that are interested. It had to be the actual residents on the street.
181 00:22:41.920 --> 00:23:04.769 maddie mcgregor: So essentially, we finally managed to get the community room. And you can sort of see by the pictures we had to change our plans last minute we were expecting. Well, I was expecting a bit more like somewhere in Norfolk or Suffolk or Essex, like a big community hall with nice chairs and tables where we'd have lots of room to paint and move around. That was not the case. We had like 3 sofas.
182 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:22.219 maddie mcgregor: some crazy cups, but it did the trick, and it worked just fine. So the aims out for us to get out of these workshops was to ultimately teach a little bit about climate change and have those discussions. So one of the key things for me that I've learned with my 13 and a half
183 00:23:22.220 --> 00:23:43.930 maddie mcgregor: 1,000 pound degree. My most favorite nugget is about climate colonialism. I know that Graham likes a bit of me teaching about climate change. So if we want to talk about that at the end, and anyone wants to ask the question, then you can. But I'll leave that to the Q. And A. So we had a little chat about this, and I honestly thought that it was going to steer more towards this because
184 00:23:44.080 --> 00:24:13.889 maddie mcgregor: Bristol is quite well known, for, like racial injustice, and it does linking quite well. But we very quickly emerged what the residents wanted. So we were discussing conversations about the local problems and solutions associated with climate change. Because, yeah, we did figure out our, you know, big scary emotions. But at the end of the day. They wanted to make this mural into a very positive thing, and show what they can do as a community, and let it be sort of like a nice.
185 00:24:13.890 --> 00:24:37.289 maddie mcgregor: positive reminder. It was also really important for Cammy to get for people to think about the colors that they'd associate with their emotions, and she really wanted to get everyone drawing and like getting involved in some art, to sort of really prove to ourselves that you don't actually have to be an artist to get involved in this project like it is for everyone. So here's just a few little photos of that
186 00:24:38.630 --> 00:24:50.700 maddie mcgregor: And then for the final design through the 3 sessions. These are the problems and solutions that we came up with the main ones. Now, it's quite important to say that we realize that.
187 00:24:50.920 --> 00:25:13.789 maddie mcgregor: Well, this sort of turned into a bit of a moan session. I mean, you can imagine we've got residents in the community room, and we're like, what is the local problems? And we were having a little bit of a moan which is always good. And we soon realized that some of the local problems are actually linked to climate change. So it really helped like people who aren't necessarily very educated on the subject really relate.
188 00:25:14.311 --> 00:25:21.610 maddie mcgregor: Local, very, very local problems on actual Dove Street. To this bigger, scary problem.
189 00:25:21.965 --> 00:25:47.329 maddie mcgregor: so essentially, the main ones that came up was like air pollution. And from the children that were actually painting on the day. Their solution to this was cycling to school, walking to school, and they were really keen about that. Another local problem to Dove Street is like litter and fly tipping. It's like a lot of fly tipping behind the flats, and some of the residents who have lived there for a long time, said that
190 00:25:47.360 --> 00:26:08.619 maddie mcgregor: previously they'd had a community gardener. So there was this man who was interested in gardening, and he would rally up the children and the adults, and they would go and look after the green spaces because there's a lot of green spaces in this Dove Street. They found that when they had the community gardening there was more ownership and sense over place. So
191 00:26:08.947 --> 00:26:21.960 maddie mcgregor: given this essentially, they found that, like the children, weren't so keen just to throw their crisp packets at the end of the school day, and people were a lot more responsible for the beautiful flowers and area as opposed to
192 00:26:22.040 --> 00:26:27.740 maddie mcgregor: sort of, you know, when one person does it. They found that it became very common, and then it was harder to control.
193 00:26:28.290 --> 00:26:58.269 maddie mcgregor: So obviously some of the other local problems is the antisocial behaviour and also tagging. So even though we have these lovely murals in Bristol, there is a big problem with graffiti, and some of the problems that have emerged with previous projects is you can paint a lovely wall, and then someone's going to come along and just put their tag on it, which obviously is really disheartening. And it does create a barrier where councillors don't want to, you know, give permission to these projects when they're just going to get tagged all over.
194 00:26:58.330 --> 00:27:13.649 maddie mcgregor: And also they have a really big homelessness problem in the area. Now, me, coming from a small town in Norfolk. When this came up, I instantly thought like, Oh, come on like that's not fair, like we should let these people come in. But the reality is. These are families.
195 00:27:13.650 --> 00:27:36.639 maddie mcgregor: and in these tower blocks they've got people living in their hallways inhabiting in there, you know, doing drugs. It's really scary. Some of the old people don't want to go outside. You've got parks for children, green spaces that they want to use, but they feel unsafe to go out there and use them because of this situation. And to combat this, the Council actually put cages around the tower blocks to stop
196 00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:39.189 maddie mcgregor: to stop homeless people from coming in.
197 00:27:39.190 --> 00:27:44.669 maddie mcgregor: And essentially, it actually was a maladaptation where
198 00:27:44.890 --> 00:27:58.570 maddie mcgregor: basically homeless people were then able to use the cages as shelter and set up fires and set up camps. So it essentially made the problem worse, and it made emotionally the residents feel more trapped
199 00:27:58.630 --> 00:28:26.830 maddie mcgregor: in their, you know, tower blocks and less connected to the green space, which is obviously something we want to combat. Climate change. A lot of the ladies said. You know they would love to go and sit outside on a bench in the summer and share, you know, drinks and enjoy that space. But they can't do it because of these issues. So one of our solutions to climate change would be us to reclaim back the outdoor space and encourage people, children, families, to use the parks.
200 00:28:27.150 --> 00:28:50.869 maddie mcgregor: Also linking to this is that in the heat waves the tower blocks are really really hot, and it's like very suffocating, which gave way to some sort of word prompts for the mural, which was like, let us breathe also connected to the air pollution, but mostly connected to how hot it really gets in the heat waves inside the blocks. So a solution would obviously be creating these more inviting outdoor spaces.
201 00:28:51.373 --> 00:28:55.810 maddie mcgregor: Another problem they have is so in Dub Street you have
202 00:28:55.920 --> 00:29:21.109 maddie mcgregor: at the bottom of the hill all of these great big tower blocks, and then at the top you have some houses, and then they, some of the ladies who came from the houses to the workshops felt like there was opposition between the 2, like, you know, they sort of felt as if there was some imbalance there, so we just felt like community projects like this can connect the 2, the people in the tower blocks, and the people in the houses together without that sort of
203 00:29:21.370 --> 00:29:23.149 maddie mcgregor: can't think of the word, but
204 00:29:23.290 --> 00:29:31.689 maddie mcgregor: you know just I suppose they would see them as like Richer, or you know, and it's just not the case, everyone's lovely, and we're all the same.
205 00:29:32.030 --> 00:29:34.570 maddie mcgregor: so yeah, this is another thing. So
206 00:29:34.600 --> 00:30:03.429 maddie mcgregor: obviously, it's wanting to take the social action. But we have to make sure that we are really trying to minimize the social issues that could arise from this. So making sure that in the design, you know, there's as much like. We really represent the different kinds of people in the flats inside the mural. So we even wanted to look at demographics to see what different kind of religions. What different kind of ethnicities were in the tower block, so that we could properly represent this into
207 00:30:03.430 --> 00:30:07.300 maddie mcgregor: the painting. So we were trying to be very, very careful with what we did
208 00:30:07.575 --> 00:30:21.339 maddie mcgregor: and it was really important for us again to encourage Dove Street Community to come up with their ideas so that they can have real ownership over the project, which is something Jules talks about a lot in community climate action that I sort of like brought into this project.
209 00:30:21.980 --> 00:30:50.120 maddie mcgregor: Okay? So now we just before we started painting the week before the main team, we got down to the wall. So this is the wall. And it's actually a very, very big wall. We've got like 1, 2, 3, down the side. This was no small project. This was serious. 1st one for us to do so. It started off with us, sanding the wall, clearing away all the brambles at the top of the railing, priming the wall, filling in holes.
210 00:30:50.445 --> 00:30:55.980 maddie mcgregor: covering all the tags. So you can see the sort of tagging that sort of occurs there.
211 00:30:55.980 --> 00:31:20.670 maddie mcgregor: and there was a lot of stress we kind of had to accept the stress of the process. I mean, I, personally, was not stressing out because it wasn't really my job to do these things. But Cammy bless her! She was thinking, what paint do we use? What primer do we use? Is it going to rain? I haven't had permission from the council this sort of thing. So if you're going to put something on as a councillor, please reply to your emails because we're over here losing sleep. That's all, I'm going to say.
212 00:31:21.210 --> 00:31:39.720 maddie mcgregor: Okay, so day one of painting was really, really magical. Essentially, people were walking past, and even the week before, when we were priming. We got talking about it and told people to come down. So yeah, we had a marquee, which was an absolute nightmare to put up, but it
213 00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:52.330 maddie mcgregor: added to that sense of community building which is really funny, and we had tea and coffee from the church to really invite people to come down. We had seats out, but reclaiming that outdoor space.
214 00:31:52.330 --> 00:32:15.949 maddie mcgregor: There was some crazy characters that come through, but it just added to it, and we were trying to, you know, mix the different kinds of people together, and invite everyone, and really take away that scary antisocial behavior like barrier there. And it was successful, it really was successful. We had great big men in their like puffer coats come down, and we had all different kinds of families and
215 00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:40.349 maddie mcgregor: grandparents. It was great, so to really encourage people to come down, we had free face painting, professional face painting, and as soon as the word got out in the tower blocks when the kids would come back with these face paints on it, sent all the families down, and I had a massive queue, which was totally fine with me. Later on that evening we had free pizzas for the community, and we did it past
216 00:32:40.470 --> 00:33:01.489 maddie mcgregor: the Ramadan time, so that, essentially like, we were made sure to remain inclusive and not cause those issues associated with the social action that we wanted to take. And it was so lovely because they'd finished like fasting. They're all bringing down different kinds of teas, and everyone's bringing pancakes and like sharing. It was really really special.
217 00:33:01.490 --> 00:33:12.769 maddie mcgregor: No one wanted to finish painting. I did not get home till midnight that day. We were supposed to stop at 4. There was no stopping. We were still projecting and painting, and just nobody wanted to go home.
218 00:33:13.210 --> 00:33:21.409 maddie mcgregor: So then there was a few stories of the mural. So this went on for about 3 weekends. We had photographers,
219 00:33:21.940 --> 00:33:25.239 maddie mcgregor: documentaries being made all sorts of different bits.
220 00:33:25.250 --> 00:33:52.489 maddie mcgregor: and essentially a key thing that I took away from this is that community feeling that you get the feel good community when you are coming together with loads of different kinds of people. You don't know each other, but you're just like connecting over this thing that you're doing is so so special. And it's really important that we try and like recreate this in our lives, in the different ways that it emerges. So if this is something that you think you would like to do in your local area, I would
221 00:33:52.490 --> 00:33:56.869 maddie mcgregor: highly recommend. It doesn't need to be perfect, and it's just a ball of fun.
222 00:33:56.870 --> 00:34:25.800 maddie mcgregor: And also you don't have to be somebody that actually paints the wall to get a lot out of it. So for me, for example, I literally cannot stand painting walls. To be honest, I painted a wall after finishing my 1st degree, and it was a nightmare, and I decided I'm never painting walls, just faces. So at the project, I was just dotting about having a chat pouring paint out. I was barely doing anything, and people really appreciated my input into that, nonetheless
223 00:34:25.810 --> 00:34:31.890 maddie mcgregor: and in the left hand corner. Here we have a lady called Julie, and she lives just
224 00:34:31.900 --> 00:34:58.190 maddie mcgregor: in a flat just in front of the mural, and you can see the cage, by the way, that has been put on her towel lock to prevent the homelessness just for context there. And essentially, she really struggles with like disabilities and such. And she doesn't mind me saying this. So for her, she can't actually stand up long enough to go and paint the wall, so she helped in her own way by well, we used her toilet. We were tramping paint through her house. She didn't mind. She was
225 00:34:58.190 --> 00:35:17.390 maddie mcgregor: making us waffles tea, coffee from day one to the end, and this project meant so much for her. It she gives me chills to talk about it. She probably is like top 3 people that loved this. Okay, because she'd been looking at that wall for years and years and years, and kept thinking she really wanted a mural on it
226 00:35:17.450 --> 00:35:31.330 maddie mcgregor: and on the final design. Mike, one of the designers, actually put in her like dead cat who was like a big character in the area. So that was nice to like look in her cat into the final design as well.
227 00:35:31.370 --> 00:35:55.869 maddie mcgregor: So yeah, she was super super happy about that. Also. Down here we have a lady, this elderly lady like she came down just to have a conversation and have a chat, and she was a big character the time we were painting. And for her this was really really special, because she felt as if she couldn't come down at all and be in this green space. But when we were all, you know, making memories and having a project, she came down and connected with residents, and
228 00:35:55.870 --> 00:36:03.610 maddie mcgregor: she made connections to help her live in the flats when she's struggling. She's now got a little community there, which is nice
229 00:36:03.970 --> 00:36:22.390 maddie mcgregor: also. I found it absolutely hilarious when Mums stumbled across the project, and their kids were dying to get involved, and they had all their fancy clothes on, and the kids are just smacking paint everywhere, and it was a great big mess, so I had to include some mums in their aprons, trying their best not to get paint everywhere.
230 00:36:22.450 --> 00:36:37.179 maddie mcgregor: and also as well for the children. This is such a special memory for them like, can you just imagine that you've just got face painting and people painting the wall outside your house on a random weekend like it was so special and so fun.
231 00:36:37.683 --> 00:37:05.339 maddie mcgregor: So obviously bringing it back to that problems associated with social action. We did have some tagging incidents along the way, but we did not let it get us down. This is the team going and quickly covering up a tag that got put straight onto the mural after. And it was the same man who would come up, tag the wall, come up, tag the wall, and we have to keep painting over it. But we don't really want the community to see this, so it doesn't put them off.
232 00:37:05.420 --> 00:37:23.260 maddie mcgregor: and Julie, who lives in the flats, would see the man that she feels as if she can't say anything because it's dangerous. And so, yeah, there are. We have had some tagging incidents along the way, but it shouldn't let us put you off, and I think this would be less of a problem outside of Bristol, potentially.
233 00:37:23.808 --> 00:37:44.380 maddie mcgregor: So, despite all of this, I was currently trying to finish some assignments, so I couldn't go. But the team went and showcased the work at Bristol Community Festival a few days before our unveiling, which was a nice, exciting thing for them to do so. Essentially, we had a final celebration to bring everyone together where we had
234 00:37:44.380 --> 00:37:55.109 maddie mcgregor: music, free tea, and coffee. Again, we had the Mayor of Bristol come down, who, by the way, has his own driver, which I thought is really cool.
235 00:37:55.220 --> 00:38:02.543 maddie mcgregor: who just drives him anywhere he wants, who looked like he was an mi 5 man. But anyways
236 00:38:03.090 --> 00:38:25.619 maddie mcgregor: yeah. So this was really really good. We had speeches. We had artists come down, lots and lots of people who had not seen the mural before. Friends family. We gave presents out to the children that had helped, and there was postcards for them to take away to remember the project. So this was a really nice celebration we had. We were playing drums, and everyone was singing. So yeah, it's very cute.
237 00:38:25.620 --> 00:38:39.319 maddie mcgregor: And we even were in the news. So afterwards I'm going to send this Powerpoint to Graham, and you can check out the link to a news article that was made that day. Everyone's looking super super happy and a little bit exhausted.
238 00:38:39.380 --> 00:39:03.870 maddie mcgregor: So yeah, I just want to run you through the final design now. So on the 1st wall, we have the problems associated with climate change, so you can't exactly see. But we've got the air pollution flooding. There's pigeons made into rubbish, and the words, let us breathe, and it's quite interesting, because it goes up a hill. So when you get to the top of the hill, you just see breathe, which is quite nice.
239 00:39:04.177 --> 00:39:10.630 maddie mcgregor: We've got Julie's cat there on the bottom, and just some of the local wildlife that people wanted to put in
240 00:39:11.950 --> 00:39:32.589 maddie mcgregor: and then my favorite wall, we go into the solutions to climate change. So you can see how we've tried to. Well, the designers have tried to create lots of different kind of people and represent the different multicultures within the flats, which is nice. And we've got, you know, gardening together, sitting down in our outdoor spaces community, we've got the flats.
241 00:39:32.590 --> 00:39:45.019 maddie mcgregor: So, yeah, this is that is the final look. And this is where the tagging goes as well. And we wanted to incorporate the houses as well as the flats. If you see at the end we've got our houses at the top of the hill.
242 00:39:45.340 --> 00:40:05.959 maddie mcgregor: yeah. So I just want to quickly say as well that even though this sounds really crazy and really hard and like you need to be an artist, because when Cami 1st came to me, I didn't even for a second. Think, how are we actually going to pull this off? Because I just went with it? But there is actually ways to pull this off, and you can project your design onto the wall.
243 00:40:06.080 --> 00:40:24.750 maddie mcgregor: Draw it out very easily. Anyone can do it, and then you just sort of pop in a little bit of paint from the design, and everyone can join in and paint by numbers. So it is very, very easy if anyone wants to replicate it. Not necessarily about climate change. But just see what arises. See what problems come up. If you have a spare wall in your town.
244 00:40:24.810 --> 00:40:42.179 maddie mcgregor: This is what you should do. So. Yeah, is there any questions? And just before I end, I want to say, I've put the Instagram on here the color of change. And there's so many videos and so many photos of the whole process. If you wanted any support, you could always pop them a message or me a message.
245 00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:47.020 maddie mcgregor: So, yeah, that that is the presentation for today. Any questions.
246 00:40:47.020 --> 00:41:00.000 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: That is amazing. Thank you so much, Melly, and we need more people like you, I would say, that's just fantastic, Olivia. You've got your hand up. You've got your no power to you, and and more people like you. We need more, Olivia. You've got your hand up straight away.
247 00:41:01.080 --> 00:41:31.049 olivia catchpole: Hi, yeah, it sounds so great. Thank you for sharing really inspiring. I was kind of. I had 2 questions. I was wondering, firstly, if there was funding or where it came from, and secondly, what kind of follow up there was, if there was any, or whether you would have liked anything you would have liked to do to follow up that maybe you weren't able to do those kind of things like, for example, you know, taking action
248 00:41:31.540 --> 00:41:35.329 olivia catchpole: on some of the local, like climate issues and stuff like that.
249 00:41:35.830 --> 00:41:56.779 maddie mcgregor: Yeah, that is a lovely question. Thanks for reminding me, Olivia, because I did actually forget to say some of those things that you asked. So 1st of all, the funding thing, so I can't remember off the top of my head, but I think it was like Imperial war, or something as such, and Cami, of her own accord had applied to that as like a youth, climate, sort of
250 00:41:57.250 --> 00:42:17.290 maddie mcgregor: persons that goes for a project, and she won the funding, and I think there was like 6 people, 6 different projects. And this is just something that she wanted to do in Bristol. So it wasn't associated with the Council or any other funding, but through her achieving that and meeting the right people and getting the links.
251 00:42:17.290 --> 00:42:36.659 maddie mcgregor: It then was associated with Bristol County Council as well, because they had to give us permission to the wall, and they sort of came down briefly to have a look, but weren't massively involved, and it was also a little bit of taboo in in this area in Bristol. When we associated the Council, we had to sort of
252 00:42:37.150 --> 00:42:56.809 maddie mcgregor: say, you know it is actually run by us, but the Council is a part of it, because there's a little bit of hate towards the Council in some aspects which I'm sure you can imagine with social housing in such an area the follow up wise. So we had a bit of leftover funding and we are putting. We're now coming back around to it, and we're putting planters in.
253 00:42:56.810 --> 00:43:09.189 maddie mcgregor: So the main thing is all that space we're putting in like some nice planters. We've painted the railings at the top black now, and we've also had the Council go and clear up
254 00:43:09.190 --> 00:43:23.070 maddie mcgregor: that green space at the top, so children can go again and use the park, and when we were using it, and there were children in the park again, which is really nice, that is the main follow up. That happened with the funding and resources that we do have. But
255 00:43:23.070 --> 00:43:40.090 maddie mcgregor: there was another wall that we got permission for 1st right, but then we decided we wanted to do this one instead, because that's a very small wall. We're going to go back and paint that wall this summer on the lowdown. So we're just sort of hoping to rebuild those connections and
256 00:43:40.090 --> 00:44:08.749 maddie mcgregor: through other people we know. So like, for example, Clifton Growers, where I live, we want to try and be the network builder between the different community groups to find somebody to come and replace that man in a sense, who would be willing to get the children out to do gardening and bits like this, the mums as well. They were really really keen to get their kids off playstations and out painting, so I think there would be enough people there to go and get involved doing the gardening.
257 00:44:08.750 --> 00:44:25.510 maddie mcgregor: But most of our money was in the end was spent on things to bring people to the event like the food. The cake, I do think as well. So me and cami were paid in this, and if you were to do it again like it would be important to have a couple of people who are paid.
258 00:44:25.560 --> 00:44:33.190 maddie mcgregor: We weren't paid for the actual painting just the design sessions. But it is, you know, it is nice to be paid for your time. Essentially, isn't it?
259 00:44:33.540 --> 00:44:35.080 maddie mcgregor: Any more questions.
260 00:44:36.410 --> 00:44:49.090 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Right. That's a great run down. One of the questions I had, Maddie. Thanks for those questions. Enjoying the presentation. You use some initials. Gcc.
261 00:44:49.560 --> 00:44:50.960 maddie mcgregor: Global climate change.
262 00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:52.482 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Right? Okay. Fine.
263 00:44:53.340 --> 00:44:55.731 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Call me Mr Simple. Yeah.
264 00:44:56.210 --> 00:44:56.820 maddie mcgregor: Okay.
265 00:44:57.760 --> 00:44:59.130 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: It's Stuart.
266 00:44:59.550 --> 00:45:08.789 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I I just like to say a very big thank you for that. And your your enthusiasm just radiates everywhere. It's great.
267 00:45:08.790 --> 00:45:09.450 maddie mcgregor: Oh!
268 00:45:09.850 --> 00:45:14.982 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I'm not sure I could replicate this particular project in Dunmo. It's
269 00:45:15.770 --> 00:45:22.899 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: quite, quite a reserved old market town. I don't think the populace would take to a big mural
270 00:45:23.823 --> 00:45:27.720 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: but one thing he did mention was climate colonialism.
271 00:45:28.080 --> 00:45:32.840 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: which is obviously quite a big issue in Bristol.
272 00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:37.639 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Being one of the centers of the slave trade this and the other. So
273 00:45:38.050 --> 00:45:44.240 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I was wondering if you could expand on that. A lot of people were saying that colonialism is still
274 00:45:44.510 --> 00:45:53.870 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: going on, even without the slave trade. You, you've got the global north extracting everything it can from the global South, and
275 00:45:54.140 --> 00:45:57.419 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: not really paying for the consequences.
276 00:45:57.600 --> 00:46:00.669 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I'd like to hear your views on that.
277 00:46:00.670 --> 00:46:17.280 maddie mcgregor: Yes, I would absolutely love to answer your question. I'm so glad that you asked it. So I would argue that actually, climate colonialism is more of a global problem. I link it to Bristol, just as you have because of the pre-existing slave trade that went on there.
278 00:46:17.687 --> 00:46:31.949 maddie mcgregor: But so climate colonialism, from what I understand on a global scale is, it's essentially locking in those pre-existing colonialism powers through climate change. It's sort of how it's showing up in present day. So.
279 00:46:31.950 --> 00:46:57.610 maddie mcgregor: for example, just as you said, 1st of all, this would be on a level of inequalities associated with climate change. So like, for example, the global North have caused the problems. But the global South are suffering the problems. And then this shows up in global policy where essentially the global north or the high income countries that have caused the problems are not giving adequate
280 00:46:57.730 --> 00:47:13.840 maddie mcgregor: money adaptation, money, or efforts towards mitigation for the global South that can't essentially afford the problems that they're now facing. So like the Pacific Islands, for example, they're completely going underwater. And there's not essentially much they can do about it.
281 00:47:13.870 --> 00:47:36.880 maddie mcgregor: This also shows up in power play at the conferences so like, for example, at the Pacific Islands, they only have, like one or 2 representatives, and they don't really have the facilities to send many more, whereas places like, you know, in Europe, maybe America or the Uk. We have lots and lots of representatives that can swap in and swap out at these talks like Cop, for example.
282 00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:50.249 maddie mcgregor: so essentially, they run the negotiations really late and long into the night, so that these sort of countries that really need the money are having to go to bed. They're forced to go to bed because they're way too tired.
283 00:47:50.310 --> 00:47:53.620 maddie mcgregor: There's also power play as well. Where, for example.
284 00:47:53.820 --> 00:48:08.199 maddie mcgregor: America has been known to. When India stood up and said, You know we we they were the 1st ones to say, we need more money to adapt to this like you've caused the problem essentially. And America. Then I think it was Donald Trump sort of
285 00:48:08.650 --> 00:48:32.220 maddie mcgregor: tried to make like a trade deal or a trade friend with them, and then completely dropped it after the conference. So it's things like that. But then also as well, the final one I'll leave you with, because there's obviously lots of different ways that this shows up. But the one I find very interesting is trading for minerals. So like trade, essentially of these critical minerals that we need for renewable energy.
286 00:48:32.220 --> 00:48:40.840 maddie mcgregor: Or we need in our electric cars. Okay, they are basically mined. But using big mining giants based in London
287 00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:42.889 maddie mcgregor: in these low income countries
288 00:48:42.890 --> 00:49:08.749 maddie mcgregor: and essentially due to like way pre-existing laws and regulations, the mining giants can use those countries. And essentially, if, say, for example, Nepal, or somewhere like that, says, Hang on a minute, don't mind. There, that's our indigenous land you are having to relocate people and communities. Or you know, we want to protect our rainforest. Or actually, we want to manufacture it in this country. So we can make the money for it.
289 00:49:08.750 --> 00:49:23.830 maddie mcgregor: Those trading big giants use some regulations to sue them, basically for millions and millions of pounds trillions. So there's nothing they can do about it, and it's really like locking in this pre-existing power.
290 00:49:23.830 --> 00:49:45.160 maddie mcgregor: So when what was his name? I cannot remember the Rmp's name for the life of me in this moment. But he, when I remember when he was coming into power, the Labour Government, he was saying, like, Oh, the new Green revolution. And I thought on the surface like, Wow, that's really cool. But actually, what it is is us getting these minerals. It's not on our borders. It's somewhere else, and we are essentially it is
291 00:49:45.230 --> 00:49:57.769 maddie mcgregor: slavery, in a sense. So I hope that answers your question. And it's my new favorite topic, climate colonialism. And it's a good way to actually solve climate change would be decolonizing climate. So
292 00:49:57.940 --> 00:50:02.179 maddie mcgregor: sort of making it more equal would be a good way for us to solve climate change.
293 00:50:02.860 --> 00:50:05.962 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Yeah, thank you. I've been equating
294 00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:15.860 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: climate change to the slave trade. I mean, the the whole of the world. Economy seem to be based on fossil fuels.
295 00:50:16.220 --> 00:50:28.830 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: and we need to get people off fossil fuels the same way. A lot of the economies were based on the slave trade and a lot of the Western countries.
296 00:50:30.100 --> 00:50:36.247 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Most of their wealth is based in on the slaves, and it took
297 00:50:37.240 --> 00:50:42.260 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: so I mean, it's decades and decades to get slavery abolished.
298 00:50:42.550 --> 00:50:50.450 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I just hope we can manage to abolish burning fossil fuels a little more rapidly.
299 00:50:50.710 --> 00:50:58.429 maddie mcgregor: Yeah. And also when we're going into the green transition, we need to make sure we're not using and abusing the countries that have the minerals left
300 00:50:58.720 --> 00:50:59.810 maddie mcgregor: essentially.
301 00:51:00.030 --> 00:51:05.490 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Exactly. And I I it was quite nice to see I was watching Simon Reeve's program
302 00:51:05.660 --> 00:51:13.729 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: on Scandinavia. They've discovered huge deposit of rare earths in a mine existing mine in Norway.
303 00:51:13.970 --> 00:51:17.930 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: although May, maybe things might get a little bit better.
304 00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:25.539 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Yeah. And some of these rare rails are necessary for for making solar panels. For example, this is all very relevant stuff, isn't it? Yeah.
305 00:51:25.540 --> 00:51:27.599 maddie mcgregor: Yeah, they're needed for that.
306 00:51:27.780 --> 00:51:32.329 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Yeah, and batteries, and Heaven knows what else. Olivia, you have a hand up.
307 00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:39.820 olivia catchpole: Hello, jumping back in. Yeah, this is a very interesting conversation. And I was thinking about
308 00:51:40.090 --> 00:52:09.889 olivia catchpole: in terms of community engagement and wanting to be kind of led by the community. You kind of mentioned that you wanted to speak about climate colonialism. But then, being led by the community, obviously, you know which is really important. It it transferred more over to like local issues and things like that. So I wondered if you had any ideas on how to make those links between more local issues and wider issues, and how maybe, somehow, we can
309 00:52:10.450 --> 00:52:16.790 olivia catchpole: begin addressing some of these wider issues by the local scale. If that makes sense.
310 00:52:16.790 --> 00:52:18.889 maddie mcgregor: Makes sense. Yeah, thank you for your question.
311 00:52:18.890 --> 00:52:25.030 olivia catchpole: Yeah, how can we kind of communicate appropriately about climate change.
312 00:52:25.030 --> 00:52:25.520 maddie mcgregor: Yeah.
313 00:52:25.520 --> 00:52:25.850 maddie mcgregor: Okay.
314 00:52:25.850 --> 00:52:39.569 maddie mcgregor: So off off the top of my head, I couldn't give you like a toolbox of how to do it, because I do think it's just a skill that I have to be very adaptable, and to be able to lead these conversations through my
315 00:52:39.610 --> 00:53:00.770 maddie mcgregor: my educational background, and obviously my passion towards it so essentially similar to have spoken to you guys. I did speak to some of the residents about climate colonialism, and then we sort of, you know, made the links between this, the social injustice and the, you know, the antisocial behaviour. But we did narrow it down more to our local problems.
316 00:53:00.770 --> 00:53:11.699 maddie mcgregor: So in our head, we thought it was going to go one way and be, you know, all about the sad emotions we feel about colonialism and this big old scale. But we realized that we were very empowered
317 00:53:11.940 --> 00:53:20.509 maddie mcgregor: doing our very local solutions and problems. So sorry was the question. How can we link it to the big scary problems.
318 00:53:21.220 --> 00:53:21.800 maddie mcgregor: Olivia.
319 00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:27.980 olivia catchpole: Yeah, I guess, like, obviously, we can link it in terms of like talking about it. But I kind of wondered
320 00:53:28.110 --> 00:53:34.290 olivia catchpole: through action how we might be able to link it as well and like, take local communities.
321 00:53:34.290 --> 00:53:35.030 maddie mcgregor: To.
322 00:53:35.030 --> 00:53:38.200 olivia catchpole: With us in addressing some of these bigger issues.
323 00:53:38.200 --> 00:53:58.119 maddie mcgregor: Yeah, well, essentially, like, I think, a big issue like climate colonialism as well. There's a very big theme of, you know, like indigenous knowledge as well. That's also forgotten in these sort of solutions towards climate change. And even though our indigenous knowledge looks very, very different from somewhere, you know, across the world in the global South.
324 00:53:58.310 --> 00:54:26.339 maddie mcgregor: What we can do on our home soil, similar to like what Jules does with community climate action that could be very different sort of indigenously like what we know. So here, for example, it was like, you know, planting wildflowers as well came up, or you know, our community gardening. So I think it would also be connecting to our local stories and our indigenous roots. For example, the injustice in Bristol of the slavery, and then sort of transmuting what we can do, because when it comes to action as well.
325 00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:48.779 maddie mcgregor: it's very, very powerless, like, how how can we stop colonialism? Something that's a humongous problem, globally like that makes you feel some kind of way, and maybe sort of doesn't give us the permission to act. But when we focus on what we can do in our area that empowers us to, you know, be the ones to make the change, to start the sing and the dance, and then other people can join the party.
326 00:54:48.780 --> 00:55:14.099 maddie mcgregor: So I would also, when we would. Yeah, when we were doing the when we were doing the workshops, there was also a big theme of, you know, reminding people similar to how you do with children in the education standpoint is reminding them, what's ours to do versus what's other people's to do and really honing in on, you know, let's just have fun in connecting to our community. And because that's how we felt we could tackle climate change.
327 00:55:14.350 --> 00:55:17.739 maddie mcgregor: So it's just reminding people of that. I think.
328 00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:36.570 olivia catchpole: Yeah, I think that's so true, especially when so many people feel super disconnected from their community. Their action on the bigger scale is not going to happen. So kind of need to start that. Sure. And obviously it's super valuable in itself as well. Yeah, thank you. It's great.
329 00:55:37.080 --> 00:56:05.189 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: It's great. If you could start something. And then other people in the area, particularly a place like Bristol Babs can see what's happening. We can start something, and going forward as far as communication, I'm thinking, is the most important thing at the moment. How do we get the right messages out to the right people and engaging them. To actually do something positive on the ground is brilliant, and in terms of any kind of volunteering. I've always thought at least half the time. It's got to be fun, you know, if it's got to be, you know we can't just be
330 00:56:05.190 --> 00:56:17.109 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: hard working all the time. It's got to be enjoyable somewhere along as well, and it's great to hear all about those things, about cake and presents for the kids and so forth. Yeah, lovely job, David. You got your hand up, mate.
331 00:56:19.080 --> 00:56:20.050 David Newman: Yes.
332 00:56:23.650 --> 00:56:28.299 David Newman: I'm thinking, went right back to the beginning, when you were talking about
333 00:56:30.240 --> 00:56:35.010 David Newman: coming to the community spaces and the tower blocks, how
334 00:56:35.370 --> 00:56:38.360 David Newman: more generally. How is it that
335 00:56:38.730 --> 00:56:45.000 David Newman: you get started and get people to be actually interested enough to come to
336 00:56:45.450 --> 00:56:54.869 David Newman: workshop? Because that's a situation I face here in Blackbird Lee's, where we don't even have community rooms in our tower blocks.
337 00:56:55.110 --> 00:56:59.359 David Newman: But we do want to get anyone involved in a neighbourhood plan.
338 00:57:00.110 --> 00:57:08.850 maddie mcgregor: Yeah. So that to be honest, this was one of our biggest challenges at the start. And even with this community room in Stokes groth like
339 00:57:09.010 --> 00:57:33.699 maddie mcgregor: us using. It was a big transformational change in that, because this was supposed to be the community room for the people who live in the flats, but they weren't allowed to use it because it had been overrun with homelessness in the past, or whatever else. So even that in itself was a nice little catalyst of change that we made what we did to get around this bear in mind, it couldn't exactly be plastered all over social media because of the targeted audience.
340 00:57:33.700 --> 00:57:40.989 maddie mcgregor: But we went around knocking on doors, trying to talk about it, putting leaflets, putting posters around.
341 00:57:40.990 --> 00:57:53.549 maddie mcgregor: putting it on community group chats. Maybe. Similarly for you guys that would be on like the Facebook groups. It's not so much a thing here in Bristol. So that's the sort of thing that we did.
342 00:57:53.550 --> 00:58:13.330 maddie mcgregor: but it wasn't too successful at that stage that we had, I think, about 11 different people. Residents come to the 3 sessions right? And that's you know, if we were to do it again like, I would like to increase that, because they were certain kinds of people who are already interested in this.
343 00:58:13.350 --> 00:58:37.000 maddie mcgregor: but the main way that we draw people in was by me chatting to every single person that walked past, especially in this process of sanding the wall and moving all the brambles away, I'd just start a conversation and say, Oh, do you know what we're doing here? And then I just explain, or people would walk past, and I'd say, Oh, do you know what we're doing? Have a face paint, come and have a pizza, and
344 00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:51.420 maddie mcgregor: we were just inviting people to come, even if they weren't painting, just to have a chat. And at 1 point there's literally I remember it so well. I was painting the face, and there was just mums sat everywhere, or with their babies, and you had, like Jamaican mums shouting at their kids. And
345 00:58:51.420 --> 00:58:52.219 maddie mcgregor: you know.
346 00:58:52.220 --> 00:59:07.019 maddie mcgregor: Muslim moms, it was just lovely and connecting with everyone and grandmas. And yeah, so it was really, really sweet in the end. But the main thing would be, I think, just to speak to people on the street.
347 00:59:09.060 --> 00:59:11.220 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Yeah, that's the answer.
348 00:59:11.560 --> 00:59:28.329 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: So if any project like this and that you could think about it, and you know, maybe we might put a make a book of words about this, Maddie. There's things about Outreach. There's things about design, there's things about involvement. And there's things about what you've just described is that it's just being there and speaking to people.
349 00:59:28.350 --> 00:59:47.360 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: And so if you were going to do this, you need we need to. I mean, some people obviously like yourself are good at that sort of animation role, and to find somebody that can upbeat can speak to people as they're walking by so that you're not. You've not. You're doing that. You need somebody that's talking as well as somebody that's doing.
350 00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:47.850 maddie mcgregor: Yeah.
351 00:59:47.850 --> 01:00:10.740 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: One way of putting it, and that sounds to me like that's what's worked for you. I know Blackbird leads a bit, David, as you know, from from past lives, and a lot of the things that we do. The great collaboration are around sort of rural parishes, but very much we need to be very much engaged in these built up urban areas as well. So this is a brilliant example, I think, of one way in which it can be done.
352 01:00:11.020 --> 01:00:11.350 maddie mcgregor: Yeah.
353 01:00:11.350 --> 01:00:12.629 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: The other ways, as well.
354 01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:16.840 maddie mcgregor: Was definitely only possible as well because
355 01:00:16.940 --> 01:00:36.899 maddie mcgregor: Cami had found Mike. Who's the man in the black outfit here who's a local artist and also Victoria who has worked. They've both worked on these projects before they had the skills that they knew. Mike was very, very helpful. I came in, not knowing necessarily what to expect
356 01:00:36.900 --> 01:00:53.310 maddie mcgregor: of the residents, and he knew straight away. We can't say this about the Council, because people are going to get annoyed. It needs to be from the residents. So it was like connecting to what people know about the area. So I think somebody said earlier that their area is very, I don't know.
357 01:00:53.380 --> 01:01:01.089 maddie mcgregor: Wouldn't be into this sort of thing. Well, if we were going to do something like this would have to tailor it specifically to them, maybe less colors.
358 01:01:01.230 --> 01:01:03.380 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Well, the kids certainly turned out, didn't they?
359 01:01:03.380 --> 01:01:07.230 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Yeah, yeah, Olivia, you've got another question.
360 01:01:10.680 --> 01:01:13.990 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: You're muted, Olivia. No, you have got another question. Okay.
361 01:01:13.990 --> 01:01:19.510 olivia catchpole: I know I put the hand on it to the meeting, anyway. Yeah.
362 01:01:19.510 --> 01:01:23.000 olivia catchpole: What was I gonna say? Oh, yeah, I just kind of wanted to agree that
363 01:01:23.170 --> 01:01:40.650 olivia catchpole: just going for it and going to these spaces is really important. Remembering a project I did where we just we were trying to engage like around the importance of pubs as community spaces. And at 1st we didn't even mention really what we were there for. We were a bit sneaky with it, and just kind of kept going to
364 01:01:40.820 --> 01:01:45.569 olivia catchpole: the local pub and started trying to chat to people and things. And I think
365 01:01:45.820 --> 01:01:51.410 olivia catchpole: I found that people are just quite receptive, you know. If you if you kind of keep coming, and you
366 01:01:51.690 --> 01:02:00.100 olivia catchpole: our friendly face there is, you know, you're gonna probably make connections, and I think it's kind of having a bit of trust in that as well.
367 01:02:01.015 --> 01:02:02.109 olivia catchpole: But yeah, just.
368 01:02:02.110 --> 01:02:26.687 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: There was also a clue in that fight finding somebody like Mike. One thing we say a lot is that there are skills and expertise in in people's communities that they're not aware of. There's all kinds of of people around that can can offer these kind of things. And to get somebody that's local as well, so that not only could he help with the design, but he could clue you in into the local concerns was a sort of double whammy, really
369 01:02:27.460 --> 01:02:36.529 David Newman: Well, yes, we do know about them. I spent yesterday sitting outside for 2 h with a very local video maker.
370 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:41.229 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Right? So that's another option, isn't it? Videos? Yeah.
371 01:02:41.700 --> 01:02:47.069 David Newman: No, he's he's actually fairly well known for doing
372 01:02:47.790 --> 01:02:55.459 David Newman: videos that people like in the area. He's also well known for talking more than doing. So. That's my problem.
373 01:02:56.750 --> 01:02:58.830 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Okay, right?
374 01:02:58.830 --> 01:03:24.470 maddie mcgregor: Definitely have a video of like, come and make a documentary about it. And I do think, you know, especially if you wanted to promote further things. That would be a really nice idea to showcase what you do in your community. But another point I quickly want to make as well about the safety issue. So we did actually, as we went on in the project, realized that there could not be one person alone at the wall with the supplies.
375 01:03:24.470 --> 01:03:34.990 maddie mcgregor: because people in the middle of it being all covered up, would come and tag the wall, or there's fights that would go on near the wall and all sorts of crazy situations. So
376 01:03:35.310 --> 01:03:44.659 maddie mcgregor: now that's something you would never need in my town in Norfolk, but also little things like this as well, is like people that know the area can sort of
377 01:03:44.820 --> 01:03:57.029 maddie mcgregor: prevent these things and make sure that we can still take the social action without having to have these burdens that can come associated with doing such amazing, positive things in similar areas.
378 01:03:58.050 --> 01:03:59.859 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Right? Good point. Yes.
379 01:04:00.390 --> 01:04:19.310 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: yeah. Some places are tricky to walk through on your own. I mean, I'm big, big, and ugly, but even me. I'm a bit concerned about some parts of the world, and sometimes it's it's about not putting temptation in people's way as well, isn't it? But there we go.
380 01:04:19.430 --> 01:04:31.110 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: These are very general comments for me, because every place is different, and the inspiration to do something with people rather than 2 people is is a great thing, and very well done
381 01:04:31.680 --> 01:04:35.599 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: any more points or questions for Maggie. Do you want to stop sharing your screen, Manny? So.
382 01:04:35.600 --> 01:04:51.610 maddie mcgregor: Yeah, just as well, if you, if anyone is interested and they want to have a look on the Instagram page like, Do definitely look there, because there's lots of videos of the whole process and everything. But it will be in the final Powerpoint that's sent round by Graham. I assume.
383 01:04:51.820 --> 01:05:02.679 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: That that will be in there, and so forth. So that's great. That's an incredibly inspiring project. Thank you so much, Maggie, and thank you so much for coming in and telling us about it being so positive about it.
384 01:05:02.680 --> 01:05:04.449 maddie mcgregor: Yeah, thank you very much.
385 01:05:04.450 --> 01:05:10.439 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: No, it's great. Any more points. Anything else anybody else wanted to to raise with with Nelly while she's with us.
386 01:05:11.090 --> 01:05:12.649 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: What's your next project?
387 01:05:12.980 --> 01:05:13.390 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Oh!
388 01:05:13.756 --> 01:05:29.170 maddie mcgregor: Right? So basically, my next project is to grow my business for this summer the motto is, Work less earn more, and also to do my dissertation. Finish my master's degree. I'm going to paint. We're going to paint the other wall.
389 01:05:29.340 --> 01:05:52.990 maddie mcgregor: And at the moment that's just it. But also in a little while. I'm going to be becoming a Cabot Institute climate educator. So I'm doing training for that in a few hours, and I'm hoping it might be able to link with some things that Andrew and Jules is doing. Maybe so linking up, perhaps. Bristol and the Cabot Institute and Essex. So yeah, that's about it, really, at the moment.
390 01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:55.550 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Well, I shall look forward to seeing you again.
391 01:05:55.550 --> 01:06:03.600 maddie mcgregor: Yeah, I'll be back the next time we meet will probably be about research beavers and microclimates. So get excited for that.
392 01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:11.019 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: We got. We've got Beavis where I live in the Forest of Dean. So who knows? Yeah, it's great stuff.
393 01:06:11.270 --> 01:06:29.979 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Well, we've had a fabulous session today. Thank you so much again, Maggie, for for coming and sharing that with us. Looking ahead to next week, sneak preview. We have a lady called Louise Max Evans coming to us next week, and she's we've been talking a bit about local stuff, and then also a bit about more strategic stuff.
394 01:06:30.170 --> 01:06:37.529 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: She's doing a lot of work with the Climate Change Committee that was set up by government to advise governments.
395 01:06:37.650 --> 01:06:48.639 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: And so she's going to bring us up to date on all the things that are happening at that arena, looking, in particular, that things to do with adaptation and mitigation adaptation is something that
396 01:06:49.500 --> 01:07:18.330 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: it's going to be coming more and more important to us. Of course, as you know, some reducing carbon in the air is taking its time. In the meantime, the weather's changing all around us. Some people actually suggested we should be having declaring an adaptation emergency as opposed to just a climate emergency. So there are things we can do. We're looking at advice on things like you know how assessing and managing flood risk for so forth. Some places are going to get flooded that have never been flooded before in living memory, and so on.
397 01:07:18.500 --> 01:07:26.679 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: So we'll be interested to see what Louise is doing. And she's so very, very working at that high level. So we've been hearing all about all of that from from her.
398 01:07:26.680 --> 01:07:31.660 maddie mcgregor: Very exciting. You should all definitely test her on climate colonialism, see what they're doing about that.
399 01:07:31.830 --> 01:07:37.279 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Okay, fair enough. Well, I don't. I don't think she's that connected to the British Government, but anyway, it's a subject.
400 01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:39.499 maddie mcgregor: It would be cool. It would be cool to know I'm intrigued.
401 01:07:39.500 --> 01:07:48.989 maddie mcgregor: That's right. Some of this. Some of this stuff in the world is about what we do. And some of this, what about we campaign for other people to do.
402 01:07:49.500 --> 01:07:54.260 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: And so I think we need to both somewhere along the line. Absolutely great.
403 01:07:54.990 --> 01:08:03.350 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Thank you so much again. Thank everybody for coming, and we'll see you all next week, and at the same channel, and look after yourselves until then.
404 01:08:03.350 --> 01:08:04.020 maddie mcgregor: Cheers.
405 01:08:04.020 --> 01:08:04.610 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Thanks very much.
406 01:08:04.890 --> 01:08:06.010 olivia catchpole: Thanks, bye.
407 01:08:06.010 --> 01:08:06.770 maddie mcgregor: Bye.
408 01:08:12.690 --> 01:08:13.250 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Good.
tag urban community, climate change, funding, relating local issues to Global Climate Change, organise local projects
