# Banter 89: The Three Pillars, with Mike Eccles {% embed url="" %} ### Video Timeline (min:sec) 00:00 - 31:52 Presentation 31:52 - 60:10 (end) Q & A *** ### Presentation: {% file src="" %} You are most welcome to download the presentation for viewing. A markdown copy is presented at the bottom of this page for AI search engine purposes *** ### Meeting Summary: Oct 01, 2025 11:51 AM London ID: 834 5460 8536 ### Quick recap The meeting began with introductions and casual discussions about local climate action initiatives before transitioning to a presentation on community resilience initiatives by Mike, who shared updates on various projects including food assemblies, energy initiatives, and social inclusion efforts. Mike detailed the challenges and successes in securing funding for these projects, highlighting specific grants and collaborations with organizations like Extinction Rebellion and the Welsh Government. The group discussed practical aspects of implementing community energy projects and mapping tools for renewable energy potential, with participants sharing experiences and seeking advice on replication and integration strategies. ### Next steps * [Mike to continue seeking funding opportunities to sustain the Hay Resilience Initiative beyond February 2025.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=GbJ%2F7Z7YTuygOr6Q%2FZYjpw%3D%3D\&stepId=3ebf6c22-9ebf-11f0-864b-0a669c97c5b6) * [Graham to upload Mike's document "How to replicate the Hay Resilience Initiative" to the knowledge base.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=GbJ%2F7Z7YTuygOr6Q%2FZYjpw%3D%3D\&stepId=3ebf746a-9ebf-11f0-864b-0a669c97c5b6) * [Mike to connect Sue with his mentor who has experience setting up community energy roof solar initiatives.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=GbJ%2F7Z7YTuygOr6Q%2FZYjpw%3D%3D\&stepId=3ebf79a6-9ebf-11f0-864b-0a669c97c5b6) * [Mike to follow up on the Parish Online mapping system that Graham mentioned for identifying suitable locations for renewable energy.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=GbJ%2F7Z7YTuygOr6Q%2FZYjpw%3D%3D\&stepId=3ebf7d84-9ebf-11f0-864b-0a669c97c5b6) * [Frank to explore connecting local GP practices to climate action initiatives for social prescribing.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=GbJ%2F7Z7YTuygOr6Q%2FZYjpw%3D%3D\&stepId=3ebf818a-9ebf-11f0-864b-0a669c97c5b6) * [Sue to research Energize Sussex Coast and Battle Solar Town website for their solar mapping capabilities.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=GbJ%2F7Z7YTuygOr6Q%2FZYjpw%3D%3D\&stepId=3ebf8518-9ebf-11f0-864b-0a669c97c5b6) * [Mike to incorporate Frank's idea about working with local healthcare providers to recommend community involvement as a well-being intervention.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=GbJ%2F7Z7YTuygOr6Q%2FZYjpw%3D%3D\&stepId=3ebf88b0-9ebf-11f0-864b-0a669c97c5b6) ### Summary #### Community Assemblies for Sustainability Mike discussed the establishment of community assemblies to address food well-being and energy, with a focus on reducing emissions and promoting sustainability. He highlighted the success of the food assembly, which resulted in five key points including the creation of a food hub and an online supermarket. Mike also mentioned ongoing efforts to collaborate with various organizations, submit a research grant, and influence planning rules to support horticultural farmers. He noted the challenges faced in implementing changes and the need for further action in certain areas. #### Project Funding Success Stories Mike discussed the challenges and successes in securing funding for various projects, including a grant from Egin that was initially rejected but later awarded after resubmission. He highlighted the support from Extinction Rebellion and the Welsh Government, which funded the first food assembly. Mike also mentioned receiving a £15,000 grant from Egin, which allowed them to hire a project coordinator, Heulyn Greenslade, for tfhree days a week. Subsequently, they secured an Awards for All grant from the National Lottery, extending Heulyn's funding to four days a week until February next year. Mike concluded by describing the successful Energy Assembly, which had 70 attendees and was funded by the Welsh Government through a Climate Conversations grant. #### Hay Resilience Initiative Progress Update Mike discussed the progress of the Hay Resilience Initiative, highlighting the development of company policies and the engagement of consultants to support their business plan. They have made strides in mapping community energy sites and are now networking with key figures in the community energy sector following a successful presentation at a conference. Heulyn was invited to join the board of Community Energy Wales, providing further opportunities for collaboration. The initiative is still in the early stages of youth and schools engagement, and more work is needed to develop practical materials. #### Community Mental Health Initiatives Mike reported on the attendance and impact of recent community assemblies, noting that 10% of Hay's 2,500 citizens have participated, which Mike considers sufficient to justify future funding requests. He discussed plans for a community hub dedicated to mental well-being, which aligns with the food assembly's goals. Mike also proposed developing a mental health first aid and basic listening skills training program to help the community better handle mild mental health issues, distinguishing this from accredited NHS courses. #### Community Resilience Initiative Progress Update Mike presented an update on the community resilience initiative, highlighting progress on three main pillars: food, energy, and social inclusion. He described efforts to establish a food hub, develop a business plan, and collaborate with local organizations, as well as the addition of a new board member with energy expertise. Mike emphasized the complexity of setting up multiple organizations and businesses, noting the need for further funding to sustain the initiative. He also mentioned an upcoming 5-year National Lottery application and the addition of a new team member from Cultivate. Graham commended Mike's bottom-up approach and asked questions about the early funding sources, which Mike did not fully address in the transcript. #### Community Assemblies and Well-being Initiatives The meeting discussed the cost and logistics of community assemblies, with Mike explaining that each assembly costs around £2,000 and can accommodate up to 84 people. Frank inquired about integrating a well-being model into sustainability efforts, particularly focusing on social prescribing and volunteer engagement. Mike shared plans to train volunteers to handle situations involving mental health issues, including climate anxiety. Sue mentioned a local solar energy initiative in Battle and sought advice on replicating successful community energy projects, which Mike offered to help with by connecting her with a mentor. #### Community Energy Initiatives Overview The meeting focused on community energy initiatives, with Mike presenting on renewable energy projects and their challenges. He explained that while direct community energy sales are limited, there are ways to use wind power to support local institutions and potentially create wealth funds for redistribution. The group discussed retrofitting efforts to reduce energy demand in rural areas, with Mike mentioning available grants for insulation and solar panels. Stuart inquired about community involvement strategies, and Mike shared that emotional appeals and intrinsic motivation were key factors in their success. The conversation ended with discussions about mapping tools for solar and wind energy potential, and Graham announced the next presentation would be about better integration across multiple dimensions. *** ### Chat: 00:12:32 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: [Wendover Parish Council](https://www.wendover-pc.gov.uk/)
00:49:50 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Home - [Bridport Food Matters](https://www.bridportfoodmatters.net/)
00:53:11 Linda Aspey, Climate Psychology Alliance: Thank you for sharing such inspiring work! Apologies I need to leave for a meeting shortly.
01:00:04 Mike Eccles - [HayResilience.org: ](https://hayresilience.org/)
01:04:56 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: @Sue Burton Battle East Sussex Sue, you may wish to get ln touch with Linda Aspey - who was on the call earlier, but had to leave early for another meeting - who runs courses on Climate Anxiety. Try \ 01:10:08 Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Reacted to "@Sue Burton Battle E..." with 👍
01:10:29 Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: Thank you.
01:13:44 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: Digital mapping for parishes and towns: Parish Online by Geoxphere, see [parish-online.co.uk](https://www.parish-online.co.uk/) *** ### Audio Transcipt: 194\ 00:14:43.260 --> 00:14:51.530\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Okay, so, this is Hang on Y, which is the picture I began with last time in Banter 34. 195\ 00:14:51.890 --> 00:14:58.030\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, I've got my Back to the Black Mountains, and we're looking down on the town. 196\ 00:14:58.390 --> 00:14:59.400\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So… 197\ 00:14:59.510 --> 00:15:13.230\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: The next slide is actually the Resilience Initiative, which, anybody who wasn't here last time effectively were using community assemblies in order to launch three pillars. 198\ 00:15:14.570 --> 00:15:27.879\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And the three pillars are addressing food, well-being, and energy. And in order to do that, we had to set up the powers facilitators team, because we needed facilitators and note-takers. 199\ 00:15:28.590 --> 00:15:49.719\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: In order to run our assemblies, and we, because I'm a director of haypubliclibrary.org, which saved Hay Library, we created a new Hay Public Library, assembly service, so that that could be used by the community to run community assemblies, if they so wished to do. 200\ 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:54.820\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And that was kind of the beginning of that, but… 201\ 00:15:56.080 --> 00:16:10.310\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: The point about this is that this initiative, if you address the emission cuts, we reduce sustainable food by 22%, 202\ 00:16:10.330 --> 00:16:18.290\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Sustainable land use by 31%, and sustainable energy by 50%. 52%, actually. 203\ 00:16:18.590 --> 00:16:25.220\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, that's what we will achieve if we can become self-sustatable in food and energy and set up our well-being pillar. 204\ 00:16:25.790 --> 00:16:35.400\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, let's get into the first assembly, which was the food assembly. Now, we ran that in January 2024. 205\ 00:16:35.500 --> 00:16:39.560\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And this is the question we asked. 206\ 00:16:40.980 --> 00:16:48.889\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, but basically, first of all, you start off with, why should anybody want to do this? So, 207\ 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:54.670\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: in order to do that, in effect, I talked to over 150 people in the community, and 208\ 00:16:54.670 --> 00:17:09.679\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: found out what they knew about climate change, and asked them, what we should do, and why we should do it. And they came up with the concept of looking after food, looking after energy, and looking after mental well-being. 209\ 00:17:09.859 --> 00:17:21.320\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And the why was for, really for concern for, their children and their grandchildren into the future. So the assembly deals with the how. 210\ 00:17:21.940 --> 00:17:27.959\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: You get people to an assembly to ask them, how might we do this, that, or the other? 211\ 00:17:28.089 --> 00:17:46.919\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And the Assembly itself then comes out with the what. So, we had over 80 attendees at that, and 40 on the waiting list, and it was funded by Rebellion and the Welsh Government. 212\ 00:17:49.550 --> 00:18:02.249\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, that was pretty cheery, because we had no idea who would come, or whether they'd come, or how many would come, and it was a significant success. 213\ 00:18:02.830 --> 00:18:05.840\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Anyway, so… 214\ 00:18:07.450 --> 00:18:16.769\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: In effect, this Assembly then came out with five, points that they prioritized that we should get involved with. 215\ 00:18:16.900 --> 00:18:22.700\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, the first one is a hub, and to share information. 216\ 00:18:22.840 --> 00:18:23.790\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Well… 217\ 00:18:23.880 --> 00:18:41.059\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Black Mountains College is taking a lease on a property about 3 miles out of Hay, and this would provide, us with space for a food hub, and locations for sorting food, sold on our proposed Hay Real Food online supermarket. 218\ 00:18:41.120 --> 00:18:53.269\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, however, we also have ambitions to have a building in Hay to house the offices of all three pillars, to hold workshops, and as a friendly drop-in, supportive drop-in center. 219\ 00:18:53.530 --> 00:18:58.340\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, and that comes up also in the wellbeing assembly later. 220\ 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:15.160\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: We're working with 3 connected organizations in order to make this possible, and the first one is… in other words, in order to be able to create a food hub and an online supermarket. 221\ 00:19:15.270 --> 00:19:26.019\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Cultivate is the name of, one of the organisations. Boyd Food, Powers Food is the second, and the South Paris Food Partnership is the third. 222\ 00:19:26.260 --> 00:19:28.200\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And… 223\ 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:39.550\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: with support from an organization called Food Sense Wales, Social Farms and Gardens, and the Roderick Foundation, and you might remember from my last, presentation. 224\ 00:19:39.550 --> 00:19:53.670\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: that the Welsh Commissioner for Future Generations called a meeting to introduce us to the founders of Food Sense Wales, that's Katie Palmer, in August last year, and also to Gary Mitchell, Senior Manager. 225\ 00:19:53.670 --> 00:20:01.970\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: for Social Farms and Gardens, who co-founded Cultivate. So, there's a connection here in what we're doing. 226\ 00:20:02.180 --> 00:20:07.180\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And Cultivate is hiring a supply chain development officer four days a week. 227\ 00:20:07.350 --> 00:20:13.719\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And that person will work with us on one day a week to set up the hub and the supermarket. 228\ 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:35.849\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Now, on awareness and increasing demand for real local food, in June this year, we attended the Wales Community Energy Conference at CAT, the center for Alternative Technology, so we got to know them, and I'll be talking more about that when we get to the energy bit. 229\ 00:20:35.970 --> 00:20:57.540\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: At the beginning of August this year, we became aware of a research grant possibility, so we wrote to Paul Allen, who we'd met, who was head of CAT, asking if we could collaborate on this grant. He said yes, and we needed a further academic institution on board, so CAT found us someone in Cardiff University's business school to work with us. 230\ 00:20:57.780 --> 00:21:07.010\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And jointly between the three organizations, we have just submitted our first academic research grant. It's for 55 grand. 231\ 00:21:07.090 --> 00:21:18.820\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And this research project has been designed to help us understand the psychology needed to entice our householders to become members of our proposed Our Hay online real food supermarket. 232\ 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:24.960\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And that means going back into the community and doing research with them. 233\ 00:21:25.350 --> 00:21:33.939\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Now, we may not get that grant, because it's highly competitive, but even if we don't, we now have a closer connection with CAT and with, 234\ 00:21:34.050 --> 00:21:46.650\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Cardiff University, which no doubt will go on into the future, so that's a plus for us, whatever happens. Now, removing barriers to access to land, we've done a lot 235\ 00:21:46.700 --> 00:22:00.780\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: to influence that, with Bannerbra County National Park, and with, Powers County Council, where both the Park Planning Authority and the Powers Planning Authority 236\ 00:22:00.790 --> 00:22:06.920\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: have had their interpretation rules rewritten 237\ 00:22:06.940 --> 00:22:11.179\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: In order to give horticultural farmers access to land. 238\ 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:17.650\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And that's been put in place, but I have to say it's not very effective. 239\ 00:22:18.340 --> 00:22:23.829\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And there was huge opposition from the actual planning officers. 240\ 00:22:24.570 --> 00:22:28.360\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So the new rules don't really go 241\ 00:22:28.580 --> 00:22:36.039\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Far enough. And one has to take into consideration, and this may be a cynical view, but it does appear to be 242\ 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:45.740\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: something that I've learned in this process. Planning officers are, by and large, a lobby for the landed gentry in rural Wales. 243\ 00:22:45.910 --> 00:22:53.099\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And the big landed estates don't want hippies who grow food to be given the right to live on the land, even if they own it. 244\ 00:22:53.200 --> 00:23:06.769\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And that's largely the reason for the opposition to the change in the interpretation to the rules and the way that they're now being interpreted. 245\ 00:23:07.600 --> 00:23:15.240\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: This assembly, this, this first assembly came up with two more particular points. 246\ 00:23:15.420 --> 00:23:19.740\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: This was, infrastructure support for growers. 247\ 00:23:19.860 --> 00:23:23.530\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And for growers to access funds. 248\ 00:23:23.670 --> 00:23:35.570\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, support for food, production in community gardens and public spaces. Now, we actually haven't done much of those two, but we've done quite a lot on the rest. 249\ 00:23:36.140 --> 00:23:43.040\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And just to remind you of the organizations involved in everything that we've done here. 250\ 00:23:43.280 --> 00:24:01.590\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, by, and this was to help us start up Race to Zero. However, it meant that we started working with these various different organizations. So, we've got Bannerber Craneog, Powers County Council, Climate Kumri, who's been supportive all the way along. 251\ 00:24:01.810 --> 00:24:07.899\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And then we've got, Community Energy Wales, 252\ 00:24:08.170 --> 00:24:19.759\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: and, Green… Green Valleys, they… Langattock Green Valleys, they actually presented at our energy assembly, 253\ 00:24:19.760 --> 00:24:34.380\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Our Food 1,200 have been supporting us all the way along, and they're now active developing the number of growers in Wales in order to achieve the possibility of feeding Birmingham with real food from Wales. 254\ 00:24:34.630 --> 00:24:38.340\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So that's a really big task. We're just feeding our local community. 255\ 00:24:39.640 --> 00:25:03.760\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And I've presented at, the Wales Real Food and Farming Conference, and I've been to a couple of the March's conferences, Real Food and Farming conferences, and in fact, we're going to one on Thursday and Friday as well. And we've also had very close relationships with, Boyd House Food. 256\ 00:25:04.170 --> 00:25:09.229\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So those, those are the organizations. And… 257\ 00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:22.390\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: The reason I'm bringing this up is what we achieved by national support. The reason I'm bringing these people onto the page here is because 258\ 00:25:22.390 --> 00:25:37.530\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Actually, even well before I spoke last year, in November 2023, EGIN, the organization that I joined in order to be able to get funding in the first place, turned down our grant. 259\ 00:25:37.530 --> 00:25:41.129\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, I was absolutely furious. 260\ 00:25:41.360 --> 00:25:59.809\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, I wrote a report, I looked up their terms and reference, they definitely had rejected the grant on spurious terms, and should have stuck to their own terms and references, and I sent… I took a real risk. I sent that report to everybody I could possibly send it to. 261\ 00:26:00.190 --> 00:26:03.640\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Because I just sort of felt, come on, guys. 262\ 00:26:03.670 --> 00:26:22.679\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: they had actually thought that Egin was basically set up maybe to do a bit of solar roofing, or maybe, you know, a community garden, or maybe an organization that wanted to grow a field of cabbages. And if I was doing any of those things singly, I would probably have got the grant. 263\ 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:27.000\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: But because we were doing something strategic, they just couldn't get their heads around it. 264\ 00:26:28.120 --> 00:26:32.649\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And that left me in a huge problem, because in November 2023, I had no money. 265\ 00:26:32.710 --> 00:26:48.830\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And so I turned my attention to Extinction Rebellion, and the Welsh Government announced a Climate Conversations Grant. And, Extinction Rebellion agreed to underwrite our first food assembly, which happened in January. 266\ 00:26:48.920 --> 00:27:00.649\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Last year. And, the Welsh Government, came in and paid for, a significant amount of it. So we were able to run our first assembly. 267\ 00:27:00.840 --> 00:27:05.080\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: at that time. Now, if I hadn't… 268\ 00:27:05.430 --> 00:27:14.360\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: in… later, in 2025, 2024, sorry, 269\ 00:27:15.660 --> 00:27:21.720\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: got these people on board, which I mentioned in the previous talk that I gave. 270\ 00:27:21.910 --> 00:27:24.810\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And whoever… who knows who else? 271\ 00:27:25.390 --> 00:27:34.959\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: The next thing that happened after I gave that talk was I went to attend a food event outside Cardiff. 272\ 00:27:35.740 --> 00:27:47.859\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And while I was there, this guy I didn't know came up to me and he said, hey, are you Mike from Hay? And I said, yes, and, you know, Hay Public Library, hey, Resilience. And I said, yes, absolutely. 273\ 00:27:48.040 --> 00:27:59.580\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And he said, well, I'm a lottery funding officer, and I want to tell you that we want to ask you to resubmit your application. 274\ 00:27:59.810 --> 00:28:05.159\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: We've got it, we understand what you're trying to do, and we want to give you some money. 275\ 00:28:05.330 --> 00:28:10.270\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, after that, I submitted the application. 276\ 00:28:11.110 --> 00:28:20.010\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, in November, we were awarded our first, large grant from Egin. 277\ 00:28:20.770 --> 00:28:28.459\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, that was, a £15,000 grant, which is, paid for a number of different things. 278\ 00:28:28.740 --> 00:28:42.449\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: But the first thing I did was got to get a professional on board as a project coordinator. Her name is Heulyn Greenslade, and this funding then secured Halen for 3 days a week. 279\ 00:28:42.560 --> 00:28:48.379\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And it ran out in July at the… in the middle of this year. 280\ 00:28:48.650 --> 00:28:54.770\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, between, December and July, we, 281\ 00:28:55.210 --> 00:29:00.960\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: got on and got cracking on everything that we needed to do. 282\ 00:29:01.970 --> 00:29:03.460\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And basically. 283\ 00:29:03.790 --> 00:29:15.909\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Once we got the Egging grant, we've now made friends with the National Lottery, and our new appointed funding officer, advised that we apply for an Awards for All grant, which we did. 284\ 00:29:16.150 --> 00:29:22.680\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And we got that in, in… actually, in July. 285\ 00:29:22.700 --> 00:29:36.160\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And so, hailing is now funded for 4 days a week until the end of February next year. And of course, we have to apply for more granted applications in order to be able to keep the whole ship on the road. 286\ 00:29:36.170 --> 00:29:47.520\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: But let's get to the energy assembly, which we managed to run in January this year, and this time this one was, this one was actually 287\ 00:29:48.150 --> 00:30:05.130\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: It had 70 attendees, and it was funded by the Welsh Government. They got back in touch and wanted us to apply for the Climate Conversation grant that they'd given us the previous year. 288\ 00:30:05.560 --> 00:30:09.909\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: This time I applied for a much bigger grant, and the agents. 289\ 00:30:10.010 --> 00:30:29.020\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: who, sort of, are sort of in between us and the Welsh Government, got in touch with me and said, well, they're never going to accept this and that and the other. And I said, well, okay, well, if they don't accept this, that, and the other, that's fine, because I'll… somehow I'll find the rest of the money. But whack it in anyway. 290\ 00:30:29.180 --> 00:30:44.270\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, let's see what happens. And, evidently, someone had got through to, the Welsh Government funding group that actually decides who gets the Climate Conversation, grants. 291\ 00:30:44.340 --> 00:30:58.700\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And they decided to give us everything that we asked for, so we were able to run the energy assembly, because of that funding. And then that assembly came out with a number of proposals. 292\ 00:31:01.610 --> 00:31:02.520\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Well… 293\ 00:31:04.810 --> 00:31:20.709\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Going back a bit, to do any of this, we need a raft of company policies on volunteering, grievance procedures, safety data, data protection, et cetera, et cetera. And these take time, and so that was the first task I gave to Haylin. 294\ 00:31:20.710 --> 00:31:26.960\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: With the second to build our website, both of which had now been achieved. 295\ 00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:38.969\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: We can't actually… go out and do a campaign to the community until we have done, 296\ 00:31:39.490 --> 00:31:44.490\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Both this… And this. 297\ 00:31:46.510 --> 00:31:54.719\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So… What actually, happened was that 298\ 00:31:54.980 --> 00:31:59.620\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: In order to map community assets, well, what we ended up with… 299\ 00:31:59.820 --> 00:32:15.689\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: immediately after the assembly, was we gained a free consultant from an organization called Compass, and that's paid for by the Welsh Government, and they are top-notch consultants, and ours is helping us with our business plan. 300\ 00:32:16.110 --> 00:32:24.539\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: We also had a local resident who came to the Assembly, who happened also to be a community energy consultant in the UK, 301\ 00:32:24.850 --> 00:32:42.439\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, he has joined the energy management team and is absolutely invaluable. He understands watts and megawatts and all of that stuff, which neither Halen nor I do, which means that he's able to provide us with all sorts of information which we otherwise wouldn't be able to get hold of. 302\ 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:57.669\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So mapping potential energy site… production sites was one of the things he helped us with, and this summer, we spent walking local streams and exploring hydropower opportunities and seeking out sites for solar… solar and wind power. 303\ 00:32:57.820 --> 00:33:14.510\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Now, we have to find the sites first of all, then we have to go to find out who owns the land, and then we have to talk to them before we can start to consult further with our community about the reality of going forward with the project, basically. 304\ 00:33:14.700 --> 00:33:17.180\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So we've started on that process. 305\ 00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:25.940\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: As for collaborating with other stakeholders, 306\ 00:33:26.110 --> 00:33:35.919\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: there was a Community Energy Wales conference held this year in June at CATS, the center for Alternative Technology in Mahunklith. 307\ 00:33:36.710 --> 00:33:38.380\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, 308\ 00:33:38.480 --> 00:34:01.279\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Hayland had never presented publicly before, and she's absolutely an amazing person. She's far brighter than I am, and really full-on, and extremely engaged and excited by the project. And I thought she should be given a head and given the chance to do a presentation. It was a discussion presentation, but nevertheless. 309\ 00:34:01.820 --> 00:34:21.510\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And in that discussion presentation, it became a bit of a double act, because there were lots and lots of questions given to her. And Haylin was on the stage, and I was in the audience, so where she couldn't answer something I did from the audience. And afterwards, Paul Allen, who's head of CAT, spoke with both Haylin and me. 310\ 00:34:21.739 --> 00:34:31.210\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Saying that he was really impressed with how thought through the Hay Resilience Initiative was. And, and because 311\ 00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:42.229\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: we made, our presence felt at the Community Energy Conference. We found we are now networking with major movers and shakers within the community energy field. 312\ 00:34:42.810 --> 00:34:51.850\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And a month ago, as a result of all that, Community Energy Wales asked Halin to join their board of directors. 313\ 00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:57.899\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So now we have both an entry and access to everyone that we need in order to make 314\ 00:34:58.330 --> 00:35:01.360\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: The, energy pillar happen. 315\ 00:35:03.670 --> 00:35:16.159\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And we can't do youth… we haven't been able to get to youth and schools engagement yet, and we haven't been able to develop the practical materials, because we haven't pretty much got started. 316\ 00:35:16.470 --> 00:35:24.120\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, that was the second assembly that we launched, and it turned out pretty well. 317\ 00:35:25.170 --> 00:35:38.169\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, the next assembly was the Wellbeing Assembly, and you'll probably recognize this person. This is Marie, the Deputy Director for Future Generations. She… 318\ 00:35:38.410 --> 00:35:55.850\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: came and stayed opposite us for the weekend with her family, and not only did she do a keynote street, speech at this event, she also, actually sat at the table and did the work. And… 319\ 00:35:55.980 --> 00:36:02.459\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: She was… Really, really supportive, and that was a great boon for us. 320\ 00:36:02.790 --> 00:36:22.589\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: 51 people came to that event, so we'd had 80 at the first, 70 at the second, and 51 at the third, which not… which is not as many, but it's perhaps more difficult to get your head around mental well-being than it is the other two. 321\ 00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:32.759\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, it was funded by, EGIN, the Egin grant that we got. We had money left from that in order to fund that… this particular assembly. 322\ 00:36:33.590 --> 00:36:40.500\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, if you add up now everybody who has either been to our, assembly. 323\ 00:36:40.530 --> 00:36:56.590\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: or one of our assemblies who is on the mailing list, or who was on the waiting list, our attendees and subscribers to our newsletter comes to exactly 10% of our immediate population. 324\ 00:36:56.710 --> 00:37:12.260\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: There are 2,500 citizens in Hay, and we've had slightly… we have engaged slightly over 250 people. As far as I'm concerned, that means we have a mandate. 325\ 00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:17.290\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And if we have a mandate, we can ask for whatever we need. 326\ 00:37:17.410 --> 00:37:25.730\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: for… at any time, from any organization in Wales, and we have a spitting chance of maybe getting it. 327\ 00:37:26.730 --> 00:37:27.640\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So… 328\ 00:37:28.250 --> 00:37:42.400\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: The Wellbeing Assembly is a slightly different, animal, because we're going to bring about a shift in cultural change about mental wellbeing within the community. 329\ 00:37:42.680 --> 00:37:43.780\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And… 330\ 00:37:44.630 --> 00:38:03.179\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: the first thing that they wanted to do was to develop a community hub or dedicated safe physical space. Well, that also aligns with the food assembly that also wanted to do something similar, and although we may have a food hub outside of Hay, we will 331\ 00:38:03.580 --> 00:38:08.330\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: hopefully end up with a building in Hay, which will serve our needs. 332\ 00:38:10.730 --> 00:38:25.069\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Now, this was one of the things I didn't expect, and that is that we should develop and promote a mental health first aid and basic listening skills training. 333\ 00:38:25.470 --> 00:38:33.860\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Now, this is not the same as a mental health first aid course run by the NHS. 334\ 00:38:33.860 --> 00:38:47.940\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Because that's accredited, nor is it a first aid course run by the NHS or accredited bodies, which then gives the individual who goes through that process an accreditation to practice. 335\ 00:38:48.040 --> 00:38:52.989\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: This is going to be something that we develop in order to 336\ 00:38:53.020 --> 00:39:11.829\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: enable us to have at least 50% of our community understanding how to handle and deal with a member of our family, or our neighbors, or anybody that they come across who appears to be mildly depressed, or 337\ 00:39:11.830 --> 00:39:19.510\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: mildly, anxious about the climate. So climate, showing signs of climate anxiety. 338\ 00:39:19.830 --> 00:39:28.900\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, having discussed that with mental health practitioners before, We actually ran this. 339\ 00:39:29.070 --> 00:39:43.379\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: We thought that we hoped that the community would come up with, giving us an opportunity to be able to address mental well-being well before somebody needs help from the NHS. 340\ 00:39:43.380 --> 00:39:54.450\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And all the practitioners that I spoke with, one of whom actually triaged for mental health services in the whole of Paris. 341\ 00:39:54.450 --> 00:40:02.300\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Were really supportive of that possibility. So, we're going to go ahead and do that. 342\ 00:40:04.850 --> 00:40:15.170\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: That, again, is something that improving mapping, communication, and sharing resources, well, that hopefully will come together later on, and, 343\ 00:40:16.560 --> 00:40:28.560\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: fostering connection and inclusion through activities and resource sharing. I mean, effectively, the way that we're doing it now is growers will be supplying the online supermarket for food. 344\ 00:40:28.690 --> 00:40:47.530\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: That will mean that members of our community will be invited to their farms for, events and meals. We will put on events and meals in the town, so the whole, of our community involved in the Resilience Initiative will be, 345\ 00:40:47.530 --> 00:40:57.059\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: actually, communicating with each other and sharing, and helping, sharing resources, fostering connection and inclusion. 346\ 00:40:57.330 --> 00:40:59.690\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And… 347\ 00:41:00.870 --> 00:41:13.550\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: The final one is to recognize and address structural barriers, inclusion, poverty, and access. Now, that has to be built in how we subsidize food, and how we deliver it, and how we subsidize energy, and how we deliver it. 348\ 00:41:14.380 --> 00:41:17.429\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, we've ended up with, 349\ 00:41:17.620 --> 00:41:25.169\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Effectively launching the three pillars, and the overall objective for each of them are as follows. 350\ 00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:46.869\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So that's, effectively what we're… what we've, set out to do, and we've been given a mandate to do that by our community. 351\ 00:41:48.080 --> 00:41:58.850\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, on the food pillar, there are five, action… addressing those five action points that, that, I, I, I put up. 352\ 00:41:58.850 --> 00:42:13.789\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Previously. So, the immediate action of the food pillar was to inspire an evening food market, which actually, unfortunately, we've lost, because we've lost the location in which it was, held. 353\ 00:42:13.790 --> 00:42:22.890\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: But anyway, that was one of the first things that the food pillar, that the food assembly people organized, and they organized that themselves. 354\ 00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:27.099\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, a working relationship. 355\ 00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:42.989\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: has been established, with Cultivate and the South Paris Food Partnership in order to get our, food, hub and our new supermarket, up and running. 356\ 00:42:45.610 --> 00:42:58.169\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: wider collaboration with aligned organizations is underway. We're always talking to more people, and more people get involved in the initiative. 357\ 00:42:58.610 --> 00:43:04.790\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: The business plan is under development, not just for the food pillar, but actually for the entire initiative. 358\ 00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:11.620\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, funding. Well. 359\ 00:43:12.160 --> 00:43:22.770\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: because we… we… we got in touch with CAT again in order to take up this, fund… potential funding opportunity, 360\ 00:43:22.910 --> 00:43:39.660\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: that opportunity is actually designed to help us optimize our marketing strategy, and to work on increasing demand for local food. And so, that is a win for us all. 361\ 00:43:39.790 --> 00:43:43.840\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Now, the… here's the energy list. 362\ 00:43:45.620 --> 00:43:54.719\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: We found somebody in, at our assembly who was an expert, he's joined the board, and I've already spoken about him, and that's fantastic. 363\ 00:43:57.110 --> 00:44:02.780\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: We've now got our own Director on Community Energy Wales Board of Directors. 364\ 00:44:02.970 --> 00:44:13.900\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: We started the process of identification of energy generation sites, and there is more to do. 365\ 00:44:16.750 --> 00:44:20.719\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: this is… this is a minefield. 366\ 00:44:20.830 --> 00:44:40.819\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: But because we have access to so many people who really have either done it or know what they're talking about doing it, we are in a position to be able to navigate our way through this minefield. And we're not going to go through the normal route. We're going to hit this sideways, and I'm not going to explain it to you all. 367\ 00:44:40.820 --> 00:44:47.590\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Because it's way too complicated, and I haven't even got my head around it yet. But that's what's going to happen. 368\ 00:44:49.990 --> 00:44:59.649\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: When we have got that far, then we will start, going into the community again with what we call the Community Spirit Campaign. 369\ 00:44:59.750 --> 00:45:17.950\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Actually, at the Assembly, they were talking about a love bombing campaign. We decided that that wasn't language we wanted to use, so we changed the language. And, we will be spending a lot of time winning over an even greater proportion of our citizenry, particularly for energy. 370\ 00:45:18.160 --> 00:45:32.069\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: But this gives you, this next slide gives you an idea of what we're doing in the way of social media, softening up, basically. So we've put this out, on social media. 371\ 00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:34.490\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Followed by this. 372\ 00:45:40.700 --> 00:45:43.120\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And finally, this. 373\ 00:45:44.850 --> 00:45:56.820\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So we're emphasizing that we're keeping wealth, jobs, and profit in hay by, building, running, and owning our own community energy, initiative. 374\ 00:45:57.890 --> 00:46:04.589\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, getting back again to the objectives and action points in that assembly, 375\ 00:46:06.770 --> 00:46:13.940\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: That is what we want to achieve in mental well-being training in the community. 376\ 00:46:19.500 --> 00:46:24.109\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And that's basically it. So, thank you very much. 377\ 00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:28.889\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And I'll try and see if I can stop this presentation, and… 378\ 00:46:29.870 --> 00:46:34.180\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Stop sharing. Unfortunately, stop sharing seems to be on a… 379\ 00:46:36.200 --> 00:46:37.450\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: Hold on, hold on. 380\ 00:46:37.670 --> 00:46:38.610\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: We're that? 381\ 00:46:38.790 --> 00:46:40.280\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: Mike? 382\ 00:46:41.300 --> 00:46:47.669\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Sorry, I rushed through that, and I've still taken half the time, or slightly more of it, and 383\ 00:46:47.890 --> 00:46:51.250\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: But I hope it does give you an overview of, 384\ 00:46:51.420 --> 00:46:58.120\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: What we've done since we last spoke, and it's been… Haptic. 385\ 00:46:58.240 --> 00:47:04.120\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: You know, nail-biting, exhausting, 386\ 00:47:04.210 --> 00:47:11.439\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And even though I've got, more, another person on board. 387\ 00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:30.260\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: It seems as though, you know, the reality of the situation is we're running five, what is it, 4 different organizations. We're setting up three businesses, and food, well-being, and energy, but we're also setting up another business which owns all of that in the town, and we have to set up everything to make all that happen. 388\ 00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:33.050\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And… 389\ 00:47:33.220 --> 00:47:50.540\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: I didn't even look at any of the details of the stuff that we've achieved this year. I just plodded on trying to get the next thing done and the next thing done, because I didn't think I'd get anywhere if I didn't have that approach. 390\ 00:47:51.190 --> 00:48:01.589\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And the net result of that is there was never any website, there was never any communication to the outside world until we ran our first assembly. 391\ 00:48:01.650 --> 00:48:20.299\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And then there had to be a whole pile of people who had to get on board in order to be able to get the support that we needed to get the funding that we needed to get the rest off the ground. So, that's basically what we've managed to achieve, but it's an ongoing process. I mean, we run out of funding again. 392\ 00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:36.200\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: in February next year. So by February next year, we have to have got enough funding to be able to make this more significant. The National Lottery wants us to make an even bigger application 393\ 00:48:36.350 --> 00:48:53.630\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And it'll be a five-year application. But in order to put that together, we've got a lot of pre-work to do in business planning and so on and so forth, and deciding exactly what it is that we need the money for over those periods of years. So there's a lot of work. 394\ 00:48:53.630 --> 00:49:00.929\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: To do before we go for that. And in between times, we have to find other sources of funding. So… 395\ 00:49:01.120 --> 00:49:17.880\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: I spend my time promoting what we're doing and finding, funding opportunities. And Helen spends her time doing everything else, pretty much. And that's how we've worked together. And, we get on extremely well. 396\ 00:49:18.260 --> 00:49:26.719\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And she is, quite, quite an amazing person. So, I'm really, really glad that we've… 397\ 00:49:26.810 --> 00:49:42.059\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: got her on board. And we're shortly going to be having somebody from Cultivate come and join us, so… so that means we will have 5 days of paid work a week, and, myself working 398\ 00:49:42.200 --> 00:49:44.300\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: All those days and nights. 399\ 00:49:44.590 --> 00:49:48.259\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: I've been on this for four and a half years now. 400\ 00:49:48.370 --> 00:49:54.569\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: But it's off the ground. It is gonna happen. And, so as far as I'm concerned. 401\ 00:49:54.710 --> 00:49:59.460\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: It's not a done deal, but I'm a lot further forward than I was when I spoke with you last. 402\ 00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:18.920\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: Well, Mike, thank you. I think that the… your session 34 was the, announcement of an idea that I thought was really going to incentivize people. I thought it was very exciting, I thought it was very community-based, and I thought that was certainly the way to go, rather than 403\ 00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:23.539\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: Top down, how delightful to find somebody who's going from the bottom up. 404\ 00:50:23.630 --> 00:50:32.680\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: And it's been really tremendous to see how that idea has fostered what you've grown into now with, you know, businesses and business plans and so forth. 405\ 00:50:32.700 --> 00:50:44.940\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: There are a couple of questions that I'd like to start the ball rolling with, if I may, because I was slightly puzzled. You said that the early funding that you found enabled you to run 406\ 00:50:45.260 --> 00:50:47.150\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: The three assemblies. 407\ 00:50:47.510 --> 00:50:53.879\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: And my question is, what is the cost of those assemblies? What is it you're funding there? 408\ 00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:59.540\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Right, okay. An assembly costs us just under £2,000 to run. 409\ 00:51:00.200 --> 00:51:06.970\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, that's made up of marketing, hire of Hall. 410\ 00:51:07.180 --> 00:51:11.790\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: the cost of tea, 411\ 00:51:12.180 --> 00:51:18.780\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: oh gosh, I can't remember what the entire budget of, but when you go through it all, 412\ 00:51:18.780 --> 00:51:20.939\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: It, it… It adds up. 413\ 00:51:20.940 --> 00:51:26.929\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: comes to that amount of money. And, initially, the Welsh Government didn't want us to. 414\ 00:51:27.590 --> 00:51:31.610\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: use leaflets. They wanted us to do it all by social media. 415\ 00:51:31.980 --> 00:51:51.039\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: But we have an aging population in Hay, and we got the results through the leaflets that we developed, and leaflets are more expensive. You have to… you have to pay for them, and you have to pay for them to be delivered, and so on and so forth. So… so… so… but basically. 416\ 00:51:51.120 --> 00:51:57.079\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: we can keep the cost of running an assembly to slightly below £2,000. 417\ 00:51:57.350 --> 00:51:58.160\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Each. 418\ 00:51:58.550 --> 00:52:07.950\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: Okay, thank you. And a question that comes from that is, you noticed in the couple of the first assemblys, you had so many people showed up, and then you had waiting lists. 419\ 00:52:08.350 --> 00:52:12.839\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: And I wasn't sure why they hadn't shown up. Why are they on a waiting list? 420\ 00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:18.090\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Because we couldn't fit them in the room. We had a hundred… 421\ 00:52:18.090 --> 00:52:18.520\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: Yeah. 422\ 00:52:18.520 --> 00:52:32.509\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: We had 109 people in the room. There were 10 facilitators, 10 note-takers, and 9 staff, that's, you know, PA person and, film crew, and, and front of house, and so on and so forth. 423\ 00:52:32.510 --> 00:52:44.030\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, which meant that we could only fit 80 people in… into the room. Actually, we put in 84, and we had slightly over 109 people. 424\ 00:52:44.030 --> 00:52:55.560\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Which we probably shouldn't have done at the first one, but… but at the second, we didn't have that problem. And of course, the other thing is that those people who were on the waiting list were also on our 425\ 00:52:56.100 --> 00:53:02.710\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: email list, so we could get them involved, that way. And, 426\ 00:53:02.890 --> 00:53:05.509\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: That's the way that happened. Frank. 427\ 00:53:06.500 --> 00:53:08.609\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Oh, sorry, Graham, have you got more to add? 428\ 00:53:08.610 --> 00:53:13.570\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: No, well, I do have more, but I think you're absolutely right to get other people involved, so please do. 429\ 00:53:13.730 --> 00:53:14.890\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: I was really frank. 430\ 00:53:14.890 --> 00:53:29.650\ frank deas, Killearn: Okay, thanks very much. In the well-being, I'm really interested to see the well-being model. That's one of the things that I see as being part of sustainability, and we try and run it in Killerne, and it's a key aspect, and we use, I think it's Belfast's five-step model of well-being. 431\ 00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:47.269\ frank deas, Killearn: because I've just managed all this optimism or naivety, I really want to see us use it to try and get some of our local TP practices to do social prescribing, so that people will actually get involved and volunteer. If you look at the steps of well-being, of connect, be active, give. 432\ 00:53:47.270 --> 00:53:59.879\ frank deas, Killearn: be aware, and so on. All those things people get when they volunteer and take part in climate action in their local communities, so we can get that virtuous circle. Have you had any success in that, or is that something you've been thinking about? 433\ 00:54:00.410 --> 00:54:15.979\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Well, yes, I mean, if we were, we would begin with our existing volunteers, and at the first assembly, I think 61 people filled in a form 434\ 00:54:16.230 --> 00:54:34.230\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: offering various skills, that they had available. And, so we're in touch with those, and each of the assemblies have done a similar sort of thing. So we would start with, our volunteers, and, 435\ 00:54:34.590 --> 00:54:47.149\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: But before we do that, we need to get to the professionals in order to be able to create whatever it is that we're trying to teach the volunteers so that they engage with the community. 436\ 00:54:47.150 --> 00:54:57.779\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And we want to teach them to teach others, how to do this, or a group of them, at least. So that, I mean, my… 437\ 00:54:57.780 --> 00:55:11.199\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: My ambitious target is that half of our community should know how to handle a situation when they come across somebody who looks or feels mildly depressed or suffering from climate anxiety. 438\ 00:55:11.240 --> 00:55:16.900\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Initially, anyway. That's… That's, our intention. 439\ 00:55:18.610 --> 00:55:21.120\ frank deas, Killearn: That's great. It is… I think I… 440\ 00:55:21.140 --> 00:55:33.590\ frank deas, Killearn: I'm still trying to work… I mean, I think that's a very admirable thing to do, and I think you're absolutely right if your volunteers can do it, because they'll have the outreach within their own social networks, but I'm also trying to see if I can get the actual doctor practices 441\ 00:55:33.590 --> 00:55:52.799\ frank deas, Killearn: to take on board what we're doing in terms of climate action, and what we can offer people in terms of volunteering and engagement, so that if someone turns up in the doctor's surgery saying, I feel down, I don't know what I'm doing, they can then recommend to them that they get involved in South and Southern Climate Action Network, because that's a good thing. 442\ 00:55:52.800 --> 00:56:00.890\ frank deas, Killearn: or get involved in one of our local cycle groups, or get involved. There's a range of community activities, and I don't think NHS has taken that on board. 443\ 00:56:01.050 --> 00:56:05.980\ frank deas, Killearn: To actually see, rather than… than… Drugs or placebos. 444\ 00:56:05.980 --> 00:56:09.009\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Yeah. Reconnect with your community and get more involved. 445\ 00:56:09.450 --> 00:56:20.070\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Well, that's an absolutely brilliant idea. I don't think we thought of it that way, but now that you've told me about it, we will. 446\ 00:56:20.070 --> 00:56:21.190\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: Wonderful. 447\ 00:56:21.990 --> 00:56:23.290\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Okay, Sue. 448\ 00:56:25.070 --> 00:56:31.520\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: Yep, thank you. So, a couple of points, questions. So, 449\ 00:56:32.050 --> 00:56:43.289\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: as somebody who's sort of full-on with what I'm doing at the moment, town council, district, supporting community groups, 450\ 00:56:43.290 --> 00:56:56.870\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: I can't do the initiating, but what I do in sessions like, look, like this is, look, how can I bring that back to the structure that we have in my area? What new idea might help? 451\ 00:56:57.100 --> 00:57:05.659\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: So, two points was really so that we've started an initiative in battle, which is called Battle Solar Town. 452\ 00:57:05.990 --> 00:57:21.260\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: Which is the… the goal is that 25% of the energy used in battle will be produced by solar in battle. That is the goal of the… of that organization. 453\ 00:57:21.950 --> 00:57:29.219\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: And, it started at 2%, so we've got a long way to go. 454\ 00:57:29.230 --> 00:57:39.049\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: But, moving with both, trying… working with a community energy company, but also trying to stimulate individuals 455\ 00:57:39.050 --> 00:58:02.669\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: to, put solar on their routes by information, etc. So I suppose that is sort of the solution, whereas where, Mike, you started, is what do the community want? What would they engage in? And I see that there would be lots to learn, especially if we… we can't move forward 456\ 00:58:02.830 --> 00:58:13.240\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: quickly enough, really, so I just wondered if you thought that was, sort of a… not negative, but, you know, if we're missing a shot there. 457\ 00:58:13.420 --> 00:58:17.000\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: Do you think, just your comments, really? 458\ 00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:26.709\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Yeah, well, I think it was the Community Energy Network, which is throughout the UK, 459\ 00:58:27.040 --> 00:58:41.850\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: announced an opportunity for whoever was working in energy to have a mentor. And, I got a mentor who has actually set up 460\ 00:58:42.110 --> 00:58:47.879\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: I think over 12 community energy roof solar, 461\ 00:58:48.450 --> 00:58:55.560\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: initiatives, in small communities of groups of streets in London. 462\ 00:58:56.470 --> 00:59:01.869\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, if you email me, and… 463\ 00:59:02.390 --> 00:59:20.539\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: What I can do is I can talk to her and get her to give me the name of whoever might be the right person for you to talk to about replicating what they've already done, because if they've already done it, it gives you a pathway, and it makes it a lot easier for you to do it. Would that work? 464\ 00:59:21.140 --> 00:59:35.820\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: Yeah, I think so. Yeah, like I say, I'm sort of one end of this, trying to support the community group. You could put your email address in the chat, that would be helpful, but… and we do, we have actually had two lots of money now. 465\ 00:59:35.820 --> 00:59:43.590\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: We meaning, anyway, that's so… sort of pushing forward with the project. 466\ 00:59:43.590 --> 00:59:53.900\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: And the other bit I wanted to ask you about, thank you for that, Mike, was about, the well-being and people 467\ 00:59:54.200 --> 01:00:03.839\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: you mentioned about climate anxiety, and I was concerned that people can be… have wellbeing issues. 468\ 01:00:04.260 --> 01:00:18.379\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: not necessarily to… related to climate, and how do you say, well, we will, or we'll talk to you about that, but we won't talk to you, we won't support you in that? I just wondered if that was an area of concern. 469\ 01:00:18.380 --> 01:00:20.750\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: No, absolutely not. 470\ 01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:25.880\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: To us, it doesn't matter why they're feeling depressed. 471\ 01:00:26.870 --> 01:00:27.480\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: Hmm. 472\ 01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:36.050\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: What matters is that we identify that there is a growing number of people who are suffering from what's called climate anxiety, and they tend to be younger people. 473\ 01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:44.810\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And, this, this we know to exist, there's been research done on it, and it is growing fairly rapidly. 474\ 01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:58.729\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: As far as being mildly depressed, well, I think there's a fairly big surge on that. I mean, for example, if you were to go to your doctor at the moment. 475\ 01:00:58.730 --> 01:01:06.169\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: There's two options for the doctor. One is to give you pills, and the other one is to put you on a waiting list to see a psychologist. 476\ 01:01:06.170 --> 01:01:13.979\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Now, if you get put on the waiting list to see a psychologist, it will take you a minimum of one and a quarter years to get to see them. 477\ 01:01:13.980 --> 01:01:20.809\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: By which time, your circumstances would have changed, and it may not be the appropriate place for you to be at that time. 478\ 01:01:20.810 --> 01:01:37.290\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So what we want to do is we want to see if we can find something which we can do in the community. And, you know, one of the best ways of dealing with somebody in the street, you know, I mean, we all walk down our streets, and we all recognize people, and some of us have got more… 479\ 01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:39.959\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Community communication than others, but… 480\ 01:01:40.020 --> 01:01:48.400\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: But if you see somebody who is obviously feeling a bit down, you'd normally say, hello, how are you? And they'd say, oh, wonderful, and you'd know they weren't. 481\ 01:01:49.530 --> 01:01:59.120\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And under those circumstances, the best thing to do is, I was thinking about you the other day, I wonder if you could help me with something? 482\ 01:02:00.030 --> 01:02:18.020\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And then what you do is you direct them to whatever activity it is that you can find to get them involved in the community in a voluntary basis, in order to be part of this resilience initiative, or whatever else is going on in the community. That's the way I would approach it. 483\ 01:02:18.200 --> 01:02:22.200\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: Yeah, yeah, that's good. So I thought, lovely. Thank you, Mike. 484\ 01:02:22.740 --> 01:02:23.590\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Frank. 485\ 01:02:25.870 --> 01:02:26.540\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: God, yo. 486\ 01:02:26.540 --> 01:02:29.410\ frank deas, Killearn: But, on the energy one. 487\ 01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:36.590\ frank deas, Killearn: It's probably, again, you gave us a tremendous overview across a very wide area, so I appreciate you had a chance to go into the same level of detail, but 488\ 01:02:36.670 --> 01:02:48.310\ frank deas, Killearn: you're looking quite strongly at energy renewables and generating enough local energy for the community. Is the situation in England, certainly in Scotland at the moment, we can't sell 489\ 01:02:48.380 --> 01:02:57.850\ frank deas, Killearn: directly to our communities, it's got to go through one of the electricity providers, and I think England's got that as well, or have you managed to navigate a way around that? 490\ 01:02:58.220 --> 01:03:13.599\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Well, there is a way if you use wind power, to have it directly support an institution in your locality, but to be honest, I don't think we've got an institution big enough that would take it long. 491\ 01:03:13.930 --> 01:03:23.400\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, the vast majority of it would go to, the grid, and, 492\ 01:03:23.780 --> 01:03:31.539\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: there is a way of getting different levels of tariffs to being paid by the grid, which is the minefield that I was talking. 493\ 01:03:31.540 --> 01:03:32.080\ frank deas, Killearn: Hmm. 494\ 01:03:32.080 --> 01:03:35.640\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: which, frankly, I haven't got my head around yet. But… 495\ 01:03:35.640 --> 01:03:53.239\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: If you do it sideways on, then you can get a better rate from the grid, and if you get a better rate from the grid, you can make more profit. And if you get more profit, then you can use that profit in a wealth fund to redistribute wealth within your community, so… 496\ 01:03:53.240 --> 01:03:56.709\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So that's our approach, but we're stuck in the same situation. 497\ 01:03:56.710 --> 01:03:59.339\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Now, if everything breaks down. 498\ 01:03:59.960 --> 01:04:14.129\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: which is not beyond the means of possibility, if everything breaks down, the mere fact that we are generating energy means that we can rewire it directly into the term if we wanted to. And that's the resilience part of it. 499\ 01:04:14.870 --> 01:04:28.390\ frank deas, Killearn: The other thing, and again, it's probably happening, but you didn't have time to come to the slides, we're trying to do it from both ends, so there's looking at how we can generate locally, but also looking at retrofit to try and see how we can actually reduce the energy demand. 500\ 01:04:28.410 --> 01:04:48.150\ frank deas, Killearn: Because, you know, we're collecting rural villages, lots of them are very old, lots of them are not particularly energy efficient, and rather… I mean, it's great that increasing planning constraints come out saying you've got to be this and this and this for building new houses, but 80% of our housing stock's already out there, and we've got to try and find ways of reducing its energy waste. 501\ 01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:56.480\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Yes, well, I mean, that's a big thing, but there are grants available, and I haven't looked at them for a while. 502\ 01:04:56.610 --> 01:05:03.070\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: But I do know people who have put, 503\ 01:05:03.750 --> 01:05:13.999\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Have been able to get grants for insulation and so on and so forth, in conjunction with putting solar panels on their roofs. 504\ 01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:27.749\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And so, you'd need… I mean, I don't know what the situation is in Wales, but some of these, I think, are actually government initiatives, not just regional government initiatives. 505\ 01:05:27.750 --> 01:05:50.199\ frank deas, Killearn: I think that's right. I think what we've suffered from, certainly up in Scotland, is a series of silver bullet solutions from government. So, everyone should do cavity wall insulation. That's the answer. Then everyone should do loft installation, that's the answer. Then everyone should do condensing boilers. The current one is everyone should have air source heat pumps. And all these are good technologies, if they're well-fitted, and if they're part of a holistic approach. 506\ 01:05:50.200 --> 01:05:52.810\ frank deas, Killearn: But if you don't have a fabric-first approach. 507\ 01:05:52.810 --> 01:06:01.380\ frank deas, Killearn: single solutions aren't going to save money, and they aren't going to deliver the benefits. So it's trying to argue with government that it needs to be more holistic in its thinking. 508\ 01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:05.759\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Yeah, I would absolutely agree with that. 509\ 01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:27.719\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: But my feeling is that we probably wouldn't get into… involved in an initiative for insulation until we had funding and had a wealth fund in order to be able to at least pay towards it. Because otherwise it's, you know, we'll divert ourselves to an individual rather than doing something for an entire community. 510\ 01:06:30.850 --> 01:06:31.810\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Stuart. 511\ 01:06:33.050 --> 01:06:49.179\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Hi, thanks. I appreciate we're running out of time, but I would like to sort of congratulate you on an amazing effort. It sounds as though you've got more than a full-time job on your hands, just running the resilience organization. 512\ 01:06:49.780 --> 01:06:53.689\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: But just to ask one question. 513\ 01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:56.570\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: How did you get so much community involvement? 514\ 01:06:56.710 --> 01:07:09.939\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I mean, to get 10% of your population involved and volunteering and interacting is, from my point of view, actually quite amazing. Do you have any tips on how to do it? 515\ 01:07:09.940 --> 01:07:22.150\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Yeah, I sent Graeme a document, which I'm sure I'll improve, last night, which was how to replicate the Hay Resilience Initiative, and it's a PDF, and hopefully it'll be 516\ 01:07:22.150 --> 01:07:36.170\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: up in the knowledge base. And if you download that, you can… it tells you how we did that. Basically, we did it by using intrinsic 517\ 01:07:36.940 --> 01:07:49.950\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Motivation and intrinsic open sentences, in our copy. So we appeal to people emotionally. 518\ 01:07:50.160 --> 01:07:54.459\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And that's the reason why we got Brexit, because… 519\ 01:07:54.590 --> 01:08:10.490\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: You appeal to a part of the brain which doesn't have the ability to speak or think, it just feels. And if you can find a way of communicating with that, you will get people to come to your event. 520\ 01:08:10.610 --> 01:08:13.720\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: But… but we already knew 521\ 01:08:14.040 --> 01:08:30.200\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: you know, when I… I spoke to over 150 people, and every single one of them was concerned about climate change, and that nothing was happening, and that the national governments didn't seem to be doing enough, and they weren't being asked to do anything, and what the hell was going on? 522\ 01:08:30.200 --> 01:08:39.469\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: how were we going to deal with this? So there was a… there's an anxiety, even among those people that I spoke to about the future. A mild one, I'd say, because it seems far away. 523\ 01:08:39.710 --> 01:08:47.000\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: And that led me to believe that if you vocalize that to them. 524\ 01:08:47.229 --> 01:08:54.330\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: then, they would respond, and it appears that that is what happened. 525\ 01:08:55.930 --> 01:08:58.309\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Anyway, download that PDF and have a look. 526\ 01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:01.299\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Okay, I'll work. Anyway, congratulations. 527\ 01:09:01.300 --> 01:09:02.020\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Thank you, that's very kind. 528\ 01:09:02.020 --> 01:09:03.290\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Excellent effort. 529\ 01:09:05.270 --> 01:09:06.029\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Graham. 530\ 01:09:06.140 --> 01:09:08.520\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: You're on silent. Sorry. 531\ 01:09:09.500 --> 01:09:15.690\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: I'm just… Sorry, I just, wanted to cover up on a couple of points, 532\ 01:09:16.100 --> 01:09:27.689\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: the first to Stuarted that I will put that document up in the, knowledge base, but it's not there yet. Another for Sue to say that, I don't know if you'd noticed that I put an address in the chat for you. 533\ 01:09:27.850 --> 01:09:36.700\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: That, could be helpful. And lastly, for Frank, and for, I guess, everybody, really, the… 534\ 01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:50.049\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: but also particularly, Mike, for you in mapping. There is a very fast-moving operation in self-generated electricity, community-generated, that the rules are changing constantly, and 535\ 01:09:50.050 --> 01:10:03.969\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: The big issue, as you mentioned, is getting localized access to the grid for people producing energy, but there are lots of ways now of being explored of using locally generated electricity locally 536\ 01:10:04.170 --> 01:10:08.149\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: And not involving the… the… 537\ 01:10:09.450 --> 01:10:19.740\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: what I'm saying, not involving the grid, you are involving the grid, but you don't need to involve the grid manager to be able to do this. There are ways of linking up the local networks. 538\ 01:10:19.810 --> 01:10:31.689\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: to your solar community farm, or your wind turbine. So, the situation in your meeting is recognized, and there are lots of people working on getting around it. 539\ 01:10:31.890 --> 01:10:46.110\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: And this is for a question for Mike, really. One of the people that's deeply involved in this is the chairman of Parish Online, which is a mapping system, and I just wondered whether you are familiar with Parish Online as mapping? 540\ 01:10:46.110 --> 01:10:59.590\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: But they're deeply involved with climate action, and they're adjusting their product to be able, for instance, to say, pick out all the south-facing roofs in your community, so that you can know immediately which ones should have, 541\ 01:10:59.700 --> 01:11:03.320\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: sort of PV to their benefit, even if they don't at the moment. 542\ 01:11:03.560 --> 01:11:19.389\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Well, we are aware of some sort of, mapping process, because, the guy came along and has joined us in order to do that. He, Ben, he, he… 543\ 01:11:20.410 --> 01:11:27.209\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Came up with maps showing us exactly where we could, actually locate. 544\ 01:11:27.470 --> 01:11:30.670\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Wind turbines and solar. 545\ 01:11:30.700 --> 01:11:41.979\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: But we had to go and look at the rivers and streams ourselves, and in fact, none of them are suitable. The river Y would be suitable, but 546\ 01:11:41.980 --> 01:11:51.750\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: we never, ever get permission to do it. And we might waste an awful lot of time trying. But, you know, with one turbine… 547\ 01:11:51.790 --> 01:12:01.559\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: and, some solar arrays, we can actually match our… our, energy consumption. But I… I… 548\ 01:12:01.970 --> 01:12:14.250\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: I, so I am aware of a mapping thing, but not particularly of that, and I'll… I'll… if you could stick that into the chat, then I'll… I'll make sure I get it and follow it up. 549\ 01:12:16.040 --> 01:12:19.280\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So, I'm constantly learning here, it's… 550\ 01:12:19.280 --> 01:12:25.940\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: Well, I think that's the whole point of these things, and I love the way that people are talking of beginning to work together. 551\ 01:12:25.940 --> 01:12:40.380\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: Because that's the only way we're going to get things done, and doing it at the community level, which, of course is the whole basis of great collaboration. So, I'm delighted, and everyone says, we've got to work together, or we've got to expand our community size, or whatever, so fantastic stuff. 552\ 01:12:40.590 --> 01:12:42.439\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: So, over to Sue. 553\ 01:12:42.440 --> 01:12:53.550\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: Yeah, just to come back on that, so, I'm also one that doesn't get the megabots, megawatts, and all that stuff, but, on our… 554\ 01:12:53.810 --> 01:13:08.809\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: our Battle Solar Town website now, I think we now… the residents have access to put in an address, and then get the… the roof and all that, and I… we're working with a company… with a community 555\ 01:13:08.810 --> 01:13:15.959\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: energy company, well, it's not company, not-for-profit, sold Energize Sussex Coast. 556\ 01:13:15.980 --> 01:13:29.090\ Sue Burton Battle East Sussex: And they are the ones who facilitated the software, or to be able to do that, so that might be relevant. You can do a bit of research on both of those and get the names that I can't remember. 557\ 01:13:31.250 --> 01:13:31.840\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Great. 558\ 01:13:37.260 --> 01:13:42.290\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: So… Looks as though we've come to the end of, questions. 559\ 01:13:44.130 --> 01:13:50.019\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: Yeah, sorry, I was just putting your, requested address in the, chat. 560\ 01:13:50.380 --> 01:13:51.160\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Great, thank you. 561\ 01:13:51.740 --> 01:14:04.359\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: Mike, as expected, it was a fascinating and wide mind-opening experience. Thank you so much, and what I love also is the way you've set yourself up for a rematch next year. 562\ 01:14:04.360 --> 01:14:12.799\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: to see how you're doing after the February money's run out. Thank you very much, really appreciate it, and thank you all for joining us. 563\ 01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:15.559\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: Next week, we have an almost… 564\ 01:14:15.700 --> 01:14:31.900\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: extraordinarily unpronounceable, presentation by someone from Middlesex University, who's going to take… show us how we can get better integration by working together, across multiple dimensions. So, I thought that was too exciting to miss. 565\ 01:14:32.010 --> 01:14:37.080\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: Before I log off, there was a hand… oh, sorry, capping hands from… 566\ 01:14:37.120 --> 01:14:52.259\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration Overseas Dept: Frank, and presumably something from Sue. So, thank you. See you all next time, and Mike, thank you again for a very reassuring and up-spiriting type presentation. Well done. Thank you, Meg. Take care more. Bye-bye. 567\ 01:14:52.910 --> 01:14:53.500\ Mike Eccles - HayResilience.org: Bye, then. *** ### Markdown copy of Mike's presentation for AI search engine: ## Hay Community Resilience Initiative \
#### Presentation 2 to the Great Collaboration – 1 October 2025 *** ### Executive Summary \
The Hay Community Resilience Initiative represents a grassroots, multi-disciplinary effort to make Hay-on-Wye self-sufficient and sustainable across three key areas: * Local Food Systems * Renewable Community Energy * Mental Wellbeing & Social Cohesion \
It is supported by Welsh Government funding, the Future Generations Office, and the National Lottery’s EGIN programme. The project connects local assemblies, working teams, and cooperatives under a shared purpose: “Driven by Kindness.” ### 1. Organisational Structure \
#### Core Collaborative Teams * Resilience Communication Team – central coordination and outreach. * Hay Public Library CIC – civic hub for meetings, assemblies, and communication. * Food, Energy, and Wellbeing Working Teams – thematic operational groups. * Powys Facilitators Team – regional support and integration. * Hay Resilience Cooperative – overarching coordination body linking assemblies. \
#### Cross-Cutting Themes * Sustainable Food & Drink * Sustainable Land Use * Renewable Energy * Wealth Redistribution * Hope, Purpose, Belonging *** ### 2. The Food Assembly — January 2024 \
#### Objective \
> To support Hay-on-Wye in becoming as self-sufficient as possible in sustainably-grown local food. \
* Attendees: 80+ (40 on waiting list) * Funded by: Extinction Rebellion & Welsh Government \
#### Key Action Areas \
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| Code | Action Description | | ----------- | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | A1 | Create a central hub for sharing information | | A2 | Promote awareness and local demand | | A3 | Remove barriers to land access | | A4 | Support growers through infrastructure and funds | |


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Expand community gardens and public food spaces



Outcomes & Next Steps

  • Evening market pilot project in Hay.
  • Collaboration with Cultivate, South Powys Food Partnership, and Bwyd Powys Food.
  • Business plan and funding proposals underway.
  • Strategic goal: creation of a Food Hub / Community Supermarket.


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### ### 3. The Energy Assembly — January 2025 \
#### Objective \
> To achieve community ownership and self-sufficiency in renewable energy. \
* Attendees: 70 * Funded by: Welsh Government \
#### Action Framework \
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A5 Develop educational and practical tools





Outcomes & Progress

  • Community Energy Wales engaged (Hay representative on Board).
  • Local expert appointed to advise on site identification and strategy.
  • Ongoing work to overcome regulatory and logistical barriers.
  • Community Spirit Campaign in development to grow public participation.


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### ### 4. The Wellbeing Assembly — May 2025 \
#### Objective \
> To foster a culture-shift around mental wellbeing across the community. \
* Attendees: 51 * Funded by: EGIN (National Lottery) \
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Address poverty and accessibility barriers



Planned Activities

  • Delivery of mental health and communication training.
  • Integration of Wellbeing Hub within shared community space (aligned with Food & Energy initiatives).


| ### 5. Regional and National Partnerships \
#### 2024 Support Network * Derek Walker — Commissioner for Future Generations (Wales) * Marie Brousseau-Navarro — Deputy Commissioner & Director of Health * Jane Davidson — Architect of the *Wellbeing of Future Generations Act (2015)* and lead of *Wales Net Zero 2035* \
These partnerships provide national visibility, legitimacy, and access to funding pathways. \
### 6. Strategic Alignment \
| | | Lead Partner | Primary Funding Source | | --------- | ---------------------------------------------------- | ---------------------------- | ---------------------- | | Food | Sustainable local production and distribution | Cultivate / Food Partnership | Welsh Gov / ER | | Energy | Community-owned renewable generation | Community Energy Wales | Welsh Gov | | Wellbeing | Inclusive, connected, and mentally healthy community | EGIN / Local NGOs | National Lottery | \
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### 7. Future Priorities (2025–2026) 1. Establish a shared community hub combining food, wellbeing, and energy coordination. 2. Expand engagement campaigns to increase citizen participation. 3. Secure sustained multi-year funding to maintain operations and infrastructure. 4. Formalise governance structures within the Hay Resilience Cooperative. 5. Monitor progress against self-sufficiency and wellbeing metrics. *** ### 8. Foundational Principles \
> Driven by Kindness >
> *Hope, Purpose, and Belonging are the foundation of a resilient Hay-on-Wye.*