Communicating using "Hope, not fear", and to "Inspire, not tell", Katie demonstrates how to use the Co-Benefit approach to getting the message across
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Katie introduces herself as the 'Climate Change Community Programme Advisor' to the Forest of Dean, and takes us through the steps that she will be using to communicate with all the communities and parishes involved in her area. A hugely enjoyable and educative insight into the most successful means of getting your messages across.
Inspired by Sir David Attenborough: “Saving our planet is now a communications challenge. We know what to do, we just need the will”
00:00 - 03:38 Katie introduces herself and her work
03:38 - 32:45 Presentation
32:45 - 61:58 Q & A
soon to follow......with all the links and references, as promised
00:11:25 John Payne: Hi, we are running two Citizen Scientist Projects in the Forest of Dean area.
They both concern Risk analysis and the change in how we assess Risk in relationship to Climate Change, Food security and Road infrastructure
John Kay and Mervyn King’s book "Radical Uncertainty" encourages us to shift from a Probabilistic assessment to ask us “what is going on now and how do we fix it” rather than deferment in the old model which refers to past experience.
It particularly concerns the Rockfall on the A40 and the closure of IPUs and their habit of using Expected Utility Value to reduce risk and therefore cost. We are in time of great change, but are not assessing risk and taking action appropriately How do we communicate the new risks to the public?
00:19:11 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Here is a diagram I now use along these lines!
00:19:16 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Very much agree we need positive local language - international meetings are not impressing with useable slogans - “Unless emissions plummet and adaptation soars, every economy will face far greater fury” (UN Secretary General at the opening of CoP 29)
00:19:26 Oliver Wilson: Reacted to "Very much agree we n..." with 👍
00:21:00 John Payne: Reacted to "KPI Poster:A5.pdf" with 👌
00:21:47 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Messaging Report Research: https://climateoutreach.org/reports/britain-talks-climate/
00:21:49 Jane Carr: Could we have that list in the chat, please :)
00:22:13 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Replying to "Could we have that l..."
You can find it on the site above Jane
00:22:43 Jane Carr: Replying to "Could we have that l..."
Thanks :)
00:26:12 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Some other co-benefit ideas from the SLCC website Draft-climate-action-benefits-template.pdf
00:27:36 Jane Carr: Reacted to "Messaging Report Res..." with 👍
00:27:47 Jane Carr: Reacted to "You can find it on t..." with 👍
00:28:06 Jane Carr: Reacted to "Screenshot2024_11_13_121651.jpg" with 👍
00:38:34 Mervyn Head: The Community Carbon Calculator found at www.impact-tool.org.uk is a useful comparison tool for local councils to look at carbon emissions - it goes down to Parish Level.
00:41:45 Joolz Thompson: ..maybe stop screen share (sharing screen of zoom)?
00:44:03 Oliver Wilson: Go to go, thanks for the talk - gave me lots of research to do!
00:44:31 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Communicating Climate Change
00:44:50 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Free course from apolitical
00:48:07 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Katie - Would you be comfortable giving us your email address?
00:50:30 Jane Carr: Reacted to "Communicating Climat..." with 👍
00:51:13 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Some more thoughts about the Climate Outreach audiences
00:51:35 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Friends of the Upper Wye - which kicked off the Wye River action, was set-up by XRHay. However we decided not to brand it XR! (Extinction Rebellion).
00:59:29 John Payne: We keep our XR providence fairly quiet, we just use the discipline and experience of direct action. We also use music to engage the public, the Forest of Dean XR samba band!
00:59:46 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Reacted to "We keep our XR provi..." with ❤️
01:00:00 Jane Carr: Reacted to "We keep our XR provi..." with 💚
01:00:54 Joolz Thompson: Reacted to "We keep our XR provi..." with 💚
01:02:31 Helen Sumbler Corfe Castle Dorset: @Mervyn Head would you share your presentation, please?
01:02:42 John Payne: Here we are at Clean Waters in London 10 days ago. Angela Jones the Wye Wild swimmer has commitment!
01:03:32 Jane Carr: Reacted to "202411131257100000.jpg" with 💚
01:05:12 Jane Carr: Reacted to "202411131257100100.jpg" with 💚
01:06:04 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Resilience is a good word to use as an alternative to climate
01:06:17 Mervyn Head: Katie, my email address is cllr_mervyn_head@n-kesteven.gov.uk
01:07:43 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: andrew.maliphant@greatcollaboration.uk
01:09:41 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: belindabawden@gmail.com
01:09:58 Helen Sumbler Corfe Castle Dorset: helensplanetpurbeck@gmail.com
01:10:56 Jennifer Lanham: @ecp_evenlode
01:11:47 Joolz Thompson: Local Authority Climate Service: Explore the Climate of your Local Authority
Climate Outreach: Britain talks climate Britain Talks Climate - Climate Outreach
Anthesis tool: SCATTER Emissions Reporting Tool For Local Authorities | Anthesis Group
Ashden toolkits: Tools for Councils • Ashden Ashden Cobenefit Toolkit
Edie explains: Jargon Buster - edie
Instagram account: Earthly Education
Rob Hopkins: From What if, to What next podcast and visioning Rob Hopkins – Imagination taking power
My email: katie.clubb@fdean.gov.uk
01:14:03 Jennifer Lanham: Voices of the River webinar series 19th Nov 12:30-1:30 with award winning author presenter and campaigner. Follow us on social media @evenlode to rewatch on YouTube
herewith the poster that Mike Eccles shared on the chat above (which did not survive zoom processing)
And herewith the template that was shared by Andrew from the SLCC website:
One of our attendees added the Seven Segments (see below) diagram to the Chat, which leads to their website and their principles:
People in Britain care about climate change and want to tackle it as a society.
Britain Talks Climate exists to help us better understand and engage with people’s priorities, questions and concerns. It helps us tell clearer, more compelling climate stories that resonate with people of different values and backgrounds.
It reveals that there is support for climate leadership across the population and that climate action offers the possibility of hope and reconnection. It outlines common ground and differences in how people are thinking and feeling about climate change.
Britain Talks Climate features seven different segments of the British population, based on More in Common’s Core Beliefs model. It provides a shared and strategic understanding of the British public and identifies ways to to engage across the whole of society.
Nov 13, 2024 11:54 AM London ID: 834 5460 8536
The team discussed their recent successes in securing grants and organizing events, as well as their plans for future climate action initiatives. They also shared resources and strategies for effective communication and community engagement on climate change, emphasizing the importance of using accessible language, trusted messengers, and co-benefits. The conversation ended with discussions on collaboration, the importance of local issues, and the upcoming topic of biodiversity net gain from Defra.
Katie to create a 2-page presentation summarizing the key communication resources and approaches discussed.
Katie to share links to resources mentioned in her talk with attendees.
Graham to follow up with Katie regarding the presentation and resources.
Andrew to update the Great Collaboration website with communication ideas and approaches shared.
Mervyn to connect with Katie to share and compare parish council engagement approaches.
Mike to share details of the Hay community assembly approach with Katie.
Jennifer to share link to Voices of the River Webinar Series in the chat.
Securing Grants and Organizing Assembly
Graham, Mike, and Andrew discussed Mike's recent success in securing two grants from the Welsh government and a community fund. Mike mentioned that the grants would cover the next assembly in January and that he was hiring someone to help him organize the event. They also discussed a potential visit from a government minister and the Deputy Director of the Future Generations Commissioner's Office. Mike expressed his gratitude for the support and acknowledged the hard work involved in organizing the assembly. The team also shared their optimism and reassurance in the face of challenges.
Parish Council's Net Zero Progress
Graham initiated a discussion about a parish council that is on track to reach net zero by 2030. Andrew mentioned Gamlingay in Cambridgeshire as an example, but it was not the one Graham was thinking of. Graham expressed the need for an organization that could pull together individual actions for a more comprehensive approach. The conversation then shifted to personal introductions, with Claire sharing her location near the Jurassic coast and Katie mentioning her recent visit to the area for fossil collecting. The conversation ended with Graham encouraging latecomers to join and Katie introducing herself as the new climate change community program advisor for the Forest Dean District Council.
Katie's Climate Team and Community Engagement
Katie, a new member of the Forest of Dean District Council's climate team, discussed her role in bringing the council's climate emergency commitments to life and ensuring community groups and residents benefit from the transition to a low-carbon future. She emphasized the importance of communication in this journey, using the co-benefits approach to highlight the benefits of climate action, rather than fear-mongering. Katie also stressed the need to understand different groups' responses to climate communication, citing research by Britain Talks Climate and Outreach. She encouraged collaboration and the sharing of resources and ideas to create a comprehensive community engagement program.
Unifying Britain Through Climate Action
Katie discussed a study that surveyed over 10,000 people in the UK, segmenting the British public into seven categories. She highlighted that climate change has the potential to unite these groups, contrary to the prevailing perception of deep polarization. Katie also shared resources such as the Ashton sustainable towns and cities, tools for councils, and the Climate Outreach report on Britain's talk on climate. She emphasized the importance of reconnecting people with nature to foster climate action and suggested using marketing techniques to create a longing for a different, more sustainable future.
Climate Change Resources for Authorities
Katie presented several useful resources for understanding and communicating climate change information to local authorities. She highlighted the Local Authority Climate Explorer (LACS) tool from the Met Office, which provides specific climate data for local authorities. Katie also recommended the Emissions Reporting Tool for local authorities and the Edie Jargon Buster for understanding sustainability and climate action terms. She emphasized the importance of using accessible language and promoting co-benefits of climate action. Andrew confirmed that he could see the shared screen. An unknown speaker suggested the Community Carbon Calculator as another useful tool for local councils.
Promoting Climate Action Through Messaging
Katie discussed the importance of using trusted messengers and relationship building in promoting climate action. She highlighted the need to consider where information comes from and how to make it accessible to everyone, including those with low digital inclusivity. Katie mentioned her collaboration with a local radio station to share messages and her use of social media platforms like Instagram to engage younger generations. She emphasized the importance of using evidence-based messaging and co-benefits to drive change. Katie also stressed the need to understand the demographics and psychology of the target audience to effectively communicate climate action. She concluded by sharing resources and research that could be useful in developing a comprehensive plan for climate action.
Exploring Communication and Climate Engagement
Katie presented a comprehensive and engaging session on various topics, including communication tools, digital connectivity, and the importance of nature. The attendees, including Graham and Belinda, expressed their appreciation for the session and requested more information in the form of a presentation. Belinda shared her experiences with a carbon literacy workshop and a community engagement project with a primary school, highlighting the importance of social skills and teamwork. The attendees also discussed the challenges of reaching people who are disconnected from climate change discussions and the potential of using social media platforms like Instagram to engage with a wider audience.
Community Engagement and Climate Risks
Belinda and Katie discussed the success of their community engagement efforts, particularly in relation to river monitoring and the Save the Why campaign. They noted that these initiatives brought together diverse groups of people and fostered a sense of community. Belinda also shared her experience of presenting a carbon literacy workshop at the Dorset cop, which led to a positive interaction with an architecture lecturer. The conversation then shifted to the importance of local issues and the need for effective communication about climate risks. John Payne joined the discussion, emphasizing the importance of engaging people in local issues and communicating the risks of climate instability to the general public. The conversation ended with a recommendation to read Mervyn King's book on radical uncertainty.
Engagement With Elected Members and Councils
Katie discussed her engagement with elected members and town and parish councils. She mentioned that her council is very ambitious and she has been engaging with them at local events and the District Council. She also shared that she has been meeting with town and parish councils to better understand their needs and how they can work together. Katie also mentioned that she is working with two parishes on air quality improvement measures. Mervyn, who has a role as Climate Change Member Champion, shared that he has been presenting on climate action to parish councils and has received varied responses. He expressed interest in continuing to work with Katie.
Environmental Awareness and Community Involvement
Mervyn and Katie discussed their approaches to environmental awareness and community involvement. Mervyn introduced a brief introduction about the Earth and demonstrated it as a closed loop system, emphasizing planetary boundaries and climate change. He also discussed the importance of carbon literacy and used a packet of digestive biscuits as an example to illustrate the impact of various factors on the environment. Mervyn also mentioned his collaboration with a colleague on rewilding projects and his work with a climate-denying parish council chairman. Katie expressed her interest in learning from Mervyn's experiences and shared her own early-stage role in the field. Mike then shared his approach to community resilience in Hay, emphasizing active listening and the importance of finding people who want to be involved. He also mentioned the Welsh Government's support for their initiatives. The conversation ended with Mike expressing his intention to share their approach with other communities in Wales.
Collaboration, Biodiversity, and Webinar Updates
In the meeting, Katie shared her experiences and insights on the topic of collaboration, emphasizing the importance of working together to make a bigger impact. She also discussed her work with the Forest Dean and the success they had in raising funds for a charity. Graham then announced the next week's discussion topic, which would be about biodiversity net gain from Defra. Andrew expressed interest in gathering ideas and approaches for communication, and Stuart mentioned that posters and flyers were being distributed. Jennifer also promoted the upcoming webinar series on the topic of hope in a time of crisis. The conversation ended with Graham thanking everyone and looking forward to the next meeting.
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1 00:00:31.980 --> 00:00:33.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Bash bash one
2 00:01:10.180 --> 00:01:13.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: registered so she should be coming any second.
3 00:02:21.920 --> 00:02:23.020 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Hi, Mike.
4 00:02:24.910 --> 00:02:27.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones: you're a bit muted. There you go. Good day to you.
5 00:02:27.660 --> 00:02:28.609 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Yeah. Go ahead.
6 00:02:28.610 --> 00:02:29.849 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Happy to see you again.
7 00:02:29.850 --> 00:02:32.070 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: There's a lot going on here, which is why.
8 00:02:32.070 --> 00:02:34.447 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Looking slightly harassed.
9 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:36.266 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Yeah, somewhat
10 00:02:36.920 --> 00:02:38.530 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: But we've got our money.
11 00:02:39.170 --> 00:02:39.830 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Okay.
12 00:02:39.830 --> 00:02:42.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Congratulations well done!
13 00:02:42.330 --> 00:02:44.751 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Yeah, we got both the grants we went for
14 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:49.230 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: ones from the Welsh government, so they're paying for the next Assembly in January.
15 00:02:49.420 --> 00:02:57.660 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: and the other one is for a bigger fund through an organization called Egg in. So it's sustainable steps. Wales, which is a community.
16 00:02:57.700 --> 00:03:00.770 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: a lottery community fund of some sort.
17 00:03:01.010 --> 00:03:03.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: How tremendous is that! Well done!
18 00:03:03.590 --> 00:03:04.190 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: And
19 00:03:05.271 --> 00:03:11.059 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: so I'll have somebody helping me which would be great. And we're just trying to get ourselves organized.
20 00:03:11.644 --> 00:03:18.990 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: You know, when you're working on your own, you can. You know where everything is. But when you bring somebody else in, create more, work yourself just to organize them.
21 00:03:18.990 --> 00:03:19.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Absolutely. Yeah.
22 00:03:19.887 --> 00:03:29.280 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: But ultimately, you know, after after a bit, hopefully, it's going to save me a lot of time. We can fill in all the things I haven't been able to do, which is lots and lots of things.
23 00:03:30.200 --> 00:03:31.070 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: But.
24 00:03:31.070 --> 00:03:35.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's a dramatic step forward. Well done! I'm really pleased for you.
25 00:03:35.100 --> 00:03:40.272 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Yeah. Well, yeah, it's it's it's somewhat good news. It's like,
26 00:03:40.930 --> 00:03:43.249 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: you know, I've been at this for 2 and a half years. Now.
27 00:03:44.176 --> 00:03:45.949 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: you know.
28 00:03:46.230 --> 00:03:48.889 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Andrew Malifand is just joining. Do you know him?
29 00:03:49.702 --> 00:03:51.674 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: I'm I'm not sure.
30 00:03:52.690 --> 00:03:55.000 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Has he been with us before? And.
31 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:59.800 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I I mentioned it to him because a he's chair of the.
32 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:02.700 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Oh, yes, you look very, very familiar, Andrew.
33 00:04:02.700 --> 00:04:03.310 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It is.
34 00:04:04.070 --> 00:04:11.129 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Andrew, we're talking about you because Mike has just been the successful applicant for 2 grants.
35 00:04:11.130 --> 00:04:11.850 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Oh, great!
36 00:04:11.850 --> 00:04:14.945 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, I figure we need an expert like that.
37 00:04:15.603 --> 00:04:15.916 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: And
38 00:04:16.230 --> 00:04:17.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Expertise.
39 00:04:17.140 --> 00:04:23.579 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Yeah, we're running an assembly in hay on. Why, on energy on the 18th of January.
40 00:04:24.930 --> 00:04:30.270 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: and we're kind of putting all the things together for the agenda for that, and.
41 00:04:30.270 --> 00:04:30.930 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Sounds, great.
42 00:04:30.930 --> 00:04:32.790 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: It's a huge amount of work, but.
43 00:04:32.790 --> 00:04:33.125 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Yes.
44 00:04:34.103 --> 00:04:39.750 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: But that's good. There's a threat that a government minister is going to pop in and.
45 00:04:39.750 --> 00:04:41.200 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: No, I bet.
46 00:04:41.200 --> 00:04:43.340 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: I'm not sure. And the Deputy
47 00:04:43.960 --> 00:04:46.759 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Deputy Director of the of of the
48 00:04:47.090 --> 00:04:49.800 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Future Generations Commissioner's office.
49 00:04:49.900 --> 00:04:57.350 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: who's in charge of health in that department is coming to an assembly in May on mental well-being. So she's already booked in so.
50 00:04:57.720 --> 00:04:59.660 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: So let me right.
51 00:04:59.660 --> 00:05:03.229 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Minister feel he's responsible for your loan, your grant.
52 00:05:03.853 --> 00:05:04.973 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Well, yes,
53 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:06.339 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's right.
54 00:05:06.340 --> 00:05:10.300 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: And and interestingly, because the the organization that
55 00:05:10.370 --> 00:05:12.249 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: he deals with the Grants
56 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:17.550 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: got back to me and said, Oh, you know we're not gonna pay for this, that and the other.
57 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:20.270 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: And so I just sort of wrote back. So okay, just
58 00:05:20.450 --> 00:05:25.767 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: if you could pay for anything, I'll do my damnedest to make up the difference right? And
59 00:05:26.200 --> 00:05:32.748 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: and when I when the Grant letter came through they give me the lot. So obviously the Government would overruled them.
60 00:05:33.250 --> 00:05:35.589 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Spectacular. Well done, anyway.
61 00:05:35.590 --> 00:05:36.950 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: With strike, you know.
62 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:43.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Was very good news to know that there is someone somewhere actually working successfully on this.
63 00:05:43.850 --> 00:05:50.459 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Yeah, well, I think I I it's a lot of people and a lot of people that that you get on are working in in all sorts of amazing ways.
64 00:05:50.760 --> 00:05:51.850 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: I was hoping.
65 00:05:51.850 --> 00:06:00.700 Graham Stoddart-Stones: When when the mood is is down and black. Then thinking of all the people that we've talked to, and we've listened to what they're doing is just very uplifting.
66 00:06:00.700 --> 00:06:01.309 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Yeah, it does.
67 00:06:01.310 --> 00:06:02.540 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Very reassuring.
68 00:06:03.090 --> 00:06:05.579 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: I went up to Hull. The weekend
69 00:06:06.194 --> 00:06:10.645 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: was invited up there by an organization called
70 00:06:11.190 --> 00:06:16.210 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Cooperative Co-operative. Is it cooperative? Hang on. I got a bad feeling.
71 00:06:16.210 --> 00:06:17.282 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: It is okay.
72 00:06:18.032 --> 00:06:19.207 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: No, it's it's
73 00:06:19.610 --> 00:06:20.585 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: cooperative
74 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:25.510 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: cooperation poll is what it's called.
75 00:06:26.020 --> 00:06:26.919 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: and it's
76 00:06:27.630 --> 00:06:31.649 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: It's it's just a bunch of of young people who've
77 00:06:31.780 --> 00:06:37.480 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: managed to get 2 houses next to each other, and they all live in there. They work 2 days a week
78 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:40.540 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: and put that all into a central fund.
79 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:47.249 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: and then the rest of the week. They're doing community work in Hull, trying to sort out all sorts of issues.
80 00:06:47.260 --> 00:06:50.299 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: and they invited people from all over the country to come up
81 00:06:50.400 --> 00:06:51.990 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: for the weekend.
82 00:06:52.050 --> 00:07:01.525 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: So I met I mean people that that you sort of like Andrew, like you see on, on zoom, and you never meet them.
83 00:07:01.890 --> 00:07:04.450 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Will Cinderella? Yes.
84 00:07:04.450 --> 00:07:05.640 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's
85 00:07:06.220 --> 00:07:08.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so. I have a lovely story to tell you about Hull. Mike.
86 00:07:09.650 --> 00:07:10.174 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So
87 00:07:11.524 --> 00:07:25.979 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I used to work for what I considered was the best run company in the country. They were just absolutely fabulous, and they needed a help desk, and they very proudly told us that our help, their help desk was going to be Uk. Based.
88 00:07:26.010 --> 00:07:27.950 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and it was going to be in Hull.
89 00:07:28.050 --> 00:07:40.189 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and the result was that you knew perfectly well that you were talking to an English person, and not somebody in far off India or Pakistan, but the difference was that you couldn't understand a word they said. Anyway.
90 00:07:44.490 --> 00:07:45.280 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Oh, God!
91 00:07:45.410 --> 00:07:59.850 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Back in the day in. In whole of the 19 eighties the fish and chip shops closed at 6 30 they didn't open. At 6 30. They closed at 6 30, and that's probably probably something to do with the the fishing fleet. The way that they operated.
92 00:07:59.850 --> 00:08:00.720 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Also very.
93 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:02.460 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Changed a lot since then.
94 00:08:02.460 --> 00:08:06.400 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think it's fairly unique in having its own telephone exchange.
95 00:08:06.400 --> 00:08:07.250 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Has. Yeah.
96 00:08:07.250 --> 00:08:08.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It does, but.
97 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:11.019 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: I don't still have the Merchant Navy School there. I don't know if they do.
98 00:08:11.020 --> 00:08:12.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I don't.
99 00:08:12.200 --> 00:08:14.250 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: It's changed a lot in recent years. Yeah.
100 00:08:14.820 --> 00:08:23.689 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, let me just say good afternoon to everyone who's joining us. I'm hugely grateful to see you're here, Katie. I was getting very worried. That's good side.
101 00:08:23.690 --> 00:08:24.460 Katie Clubb: Hello!
102 00:08:24.460 --> 00:08:28.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Nice to see you, and welcome Kirsten and John and
103 00:08:28.870 --> 00:08:33.148 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Frank, and Jennifer and Mervyn and Jerry.
104 00:08:35.620 --> 00:08:41.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and we are expecting plenty more, so we can just continue the the jab, please, by all means.
105 00:08:42.270 --> 00:08:42.970 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Hamba.
106 00:08:42.970 --> 00:08:54.300 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I do have a question for anyone, though. Does anybody know of a parish council, please? That is on track to reach net 0 by 2030.
107 00:08:54.410 --> 00:09:02.970 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I know I've talked to one recently, and I can't for the life of me remember who I was talking to. But somebody else has come up and said they'd really like to talk to someone who is on track.
108 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:04.230 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. So I thought.
109 00:09:04.230 --> 00:09:06.800 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: It's Gavin and Gay Graham.
110 00:09:06.800 --> 00:09:13.589 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, it it? Well, that is one. I agree. I got your email on that, Andrew. Thank you. But it's it's not the one I was thinking of.
111 00:09:13.590 --> 00:09:14.420 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Oh, I see. Okay.
112 00:09:14.420 --> 00:09:16.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: But it'll certainly help
113 00:09:17.134 --> 00:09:22.655 Graham Stoddart-Stones: but I just wondered if amongst the assembled people there's anyone else who feels that they know.
114 00:09:23.470 --> 00:09:27.270 Graham Stoddart-Stones: That's a great shaking head. Kirsten, that's very sad.
115 00:09:27.270 --> 00:09:31.140 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: This is for their Parish Council's own activities, not for the whole parish. Yeah.
116 00:09:31.460 --> 00:09:33.159 Kirsten Newble: I wish I did.
117 00:09:33.160 --> 00:09:35.580 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Gambling gazes. Yes, but.
118 00:09:35.580 --> 00:09:37.619 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Just for the Parish council, not for the whole parish.
119 00:09:37.620 --> 00:09:38.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah.
120 00:09:38.910 --> 00:09:39.435 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Yeah.
121 00:09:40.256 --> 00:09:44.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I don't know that the Parish Council can control the whole parish ever.
122 00:09:44.520 --> 00:09:50.160 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Well, they can still work together, obviously to aim to have net 0 within the parish. But.
123 00:09:50.445 --> 00:09:53.250 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: I don't know of anyone that's actually managed it. Yet no.
124 00:09:53.250 --> 00:10:01.029 Graham Stoddart-Stones: What you need is some sort of an organization that will take all the individual actions of each people and pull them together, so that the Parish Council knows what's going on.
125 00:10:01.030 --> 00:10:03.650 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Yeah, sounds like a job for the great collaboration.
126 00:10:03.650 --> 00:10:05.790 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We had something like that.
127 00:10:05.790 --> 00:10:06.880 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Oh, my! Gosh!
128 00:10:07.510 --> 00:10:08.440 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Hmm!
129 00:10:09.580 --> 00:10:13.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Welcome to newcomers Mervyn and Tracy and Claire.
130 00:10:16.190 --> 00:10:20.329 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Claire. What part of the world in you, with that lovely cliff face behind you.
131 00:10:20.870 --> 00:10:23.309 Claire Barnes: Oh, this is the Jurassic coast.
132 00:10:23.310 --> 00:10:24.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: All right.
133 00:10:24.950 --> 00:10:25.740 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Indeed.
134 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:28.829 Katie Clubb: I was just there at the weekend. Claire.
135 00:10:28.830 --> 00:10:33.900 Claire Barnes: Are you? Yeah, lovely. There's lots of amazing pictures to take here.
136 00:10:33.900 --> 00:10:37.280 Katie Clubb: Yeah. Hive beach and West Beach. I went to.
137 00:10:37.280 --> 00:10:39.579 Claire Barnes: Well, we're further along towards Swanage.
138 00:10:39.800 --> 00:10:48.859 Katie Clubb: Oh, gorgeous! Yeah, went fossil collecting and found some interesting fossils. I got really into it. It's really such a stunning place.
139 00:10:48.860 --> 00:10:54.200 Claire Barnes: Well, it's I love the hills that I mean. I like hill walking, and you've got some hills here that's for sure.
140 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:56.880 Katie Clubb: Yeah, absolutely.
141 00:10:56.880 --> 00:10:58.050 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Right sources.
142 00:10:58.370 --> 00:11:03.869 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There's the sort of folds in the countryside. Are you going up and down, up and down, up and down, all the way? Great.
143 00:11:03.870 --> 00:11:04.660 Katie Clubb: And.
144 00:11:04.660 --> 00:11:05.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Gorgeous
145 00:11:05.680 --> 00:11:08.099 Graham Stoddart-Stones: hopefully with a pub at the bottom of each hill.
146 00:11:09.340 --> 00:11:10.470 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We're very greedy.
147 00:11:10.470 --> 00:11:10.879 Katie Clubb: Of course.
148 00:11:10.880 --> 00:11:12.570 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's hot. Yeah.
149 00:11:12.900 --> 00:11:25.061 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: I found on on holiday in in Cornwall many years ago. There are these, there is the South West coast path, which goes up and down, up and down, but in Cornwall you can actually cut across the headlands and get to the pub more quickly. There you go.
150 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:31.709 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let me see.
151 00:11:38.870 --> 00:11:40.519 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Interesting thanks, John.
152 00:11:45.970 --> 00:11:47.530 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Yes, indeed.
153 00:11:49.810 --> 00:11:50.680 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Good
154 00:11:51.870 --> 00:11:52.620 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: views.
155 00:11:54.560 --> 00:12:05.750 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Katie, for your information. We usually hang on for somewhere between 5 and 10 min for people who've been caught up on other calls or other meetings, but we do actually have a quorum today.
156 00:12:05.830 --> 00:12:14.150 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, so yes, exactly so. There may be a few more latecomers, but if so, then on their heads. Be it
157 00:12:14.180 --> 00:12:18.069 Graham Stoddart-Stones: so, I'd very much be delighted if you'd introduce yourself and start.
158 00:12:18.070 --> 00:12:23.269 Katie Clubb: Yeah, absolutely. So
159 00:12:23.270 --> 00:12:50.290 Katie Clubb: Hello, everyone. My name is Katie Club. I recently joined the Forest Dean District Council Climate team in the position of climate change community program advisor. So I'm going to be working to bring the District Council's emergency commitments to life and ensuring that all of our community groups and residents benefit from the journey to a low carbon future.
160 00:12:50.550 --> 00:13:13.270 Katie Clubb: So I'm going to be also leading on the climate adaptation work, working with town and parish councils. So that's I think, what brought me to have a conversation with Graham to begin with, in my work, with getting more involved with the town and parish councils. And so I'm going to be yeah, hopefully helping to support
161 00:13:13.270 --> 00:13:24.150 Katie Clubb: some fantastic work that's already started with creating climate adaptation plans and risk summaries for some of the towns here in the Forest of Dean.
162 00:13:24.260 --> 00:13:45.789 Katie Clubb: and a big part of my work is also around communication. So it's 1 of the 1st kind of priorities of my role. So I started in this role just 2 months ago now, and my main kind of goal is to create this overarching kind of community engagement program with lots of different projects
163 00:13:45.790 --> 00:14:06.350 Katie Clubb: within it, all trying to kind of move towards a just transition and bringing everyone along on that journey. Now, of course, that journey is going to be underpinned by communication and communication is such a big part of the engagement and kind of behavioral change
164 00:14:06.430 --> 00:14:29.940 Katie Clubb: journey that's needed towards net 0. So that's why, when Graham asked me to do one of these banter sessions about kind of things, I've been learning in my new role. And yeah, what I'm up to here at the District Council. I thought that communication might be a good place to start, because it's such a key part of
165 00:14:29.940 --> 00:14:37.740 Katie Clubb: this journey, and in the words of David Attenborough, saving our planet, is now a communication challenge.
166 00:14:37.740 --> 00:15:02.500 Katie Clubb: We know what to do. We just need the will. So how can we create that will through Comms, that's something we're gonna try and explore today. And I thought what would be most useful. As something to kind of share would be some of my learning from all the research and kind of conversations I've had so far as to where to start with creating
167 00:15:02.530 --> 00:15:31.460 Katie Clubb: a Comms plan for this kind of big community climate change engagement programme and communicating the work of the wider climate team at the District Council that I'm part of. So hopefully, yeah, going to give you a couple of tools and resources to go away with ones that might be new to you ones that you might have heard of already. But I also, yeah, would really like to speak collaborative and beneficial, you know, for my own
168 00:15:31.460 --> 00:15:48.239 Katie Clubb: knowledge and for everyone else's. So if you also have resources or kind of ideas that you want to share, please do, chip in or put them in the chat. And hopefully, we can create yeah, fantastic kind of bank of resources that everyone can
169 00:15:48.300 --> 00:15:56.852 Katie Clubb: benefit from. So I'm gonna kick off by talking about kind of like the approach that we're using to
170 00:15:57.370 --> 00:16:22.180 Katie Clubb: to go down the Comms route with which is the co-benefits approach. So I'm sure you'll be aware of this already. But the co-benefits approach looks at how lowering emissions also creates improved health and wellbeing, social equity, thriving economies with new jobs and green skills, and also community resilience.
171 00:16:22.180 --> 00:16:28.250 Katie Clubb: So really, looking at climate action and engagement with
172 00:16:28.470 --> 00:16:43.257 Katie Clubb: with climate action, with residents and businesses and organizations through this lens rather than the lens of using the kind of like stick. And you should be doing this and kind of the the guilting.
173 00:16:43.860 --> 00:16:59.530 Katie Clubb: kind of speak, but actually looking at what are the benefits of going down this transition, because I think too often the kind of climate, emergency, climate action is really a fear, mongering
174 00:16:59.670 --> 00:17:00.810 Katie Clubb: kind of
175 00:17:01.070 --> 00:17:26.510 Katie Clubb: exercise that turns a lot of people off. So this is about using the using hope instead of fear. And we know in terms of psychology that people respond a lot better to hope rather than fear. It's been proven that there's part of our brain that shuts down when we go into flight or and fight response.
176 00:17:26.510 --> 00:17:41.619 Katie Clubb: So actually, we're not able to make these kind of rational decisions when we're in this kind of fear mindset. So we want to access the full kind of creativity and engaged zone of everyone's kind of mindsets.
177 00:17:41.780 --> 00:18:01.249 Katie Clubb: So yeah, there's a saying of Don't ask, inspire. So don't campaigns that have been really successful so far and are well documented, are ones that haven't asked people to do things, because people, if they perceive that there's going to be a lot of effort involved in that
178 00:18:01.580 --> 00:18:23.017 Katie Clubb: behavior change, then they won't do it. And most of that effort is actually in the, in the perception of it. So instead of asking people to change their behaviors, inspire them to change their behaviors. Through giving fantastic examples of what's already taking place in the community. And what fantastic!
179 00:18:23.520 --> 00:18:45.430 Katie Clubb: you know, innovative projects are happening already, and that actually gets people thinking and thinking, oh, I could do that. And I've got this skill set rather than using the the stick and making people feel guilty and excluded from these conversations which we know disempowers people and turns them off.
180 00:18:45.430 --> 00:19:01.279 Katie Clubb: So, using this kind of co-benefits. Approach is a much more kind of engaging way to talk about climate action, and is also very important, I think, at the minute, especially with
181 00:19:01.280 --> 00:19:06.080 Katie Clubb: lots of communities really struggling with the cost of living crises
182 00:19:06.120 --> 00:19:32.079 Katie Clubb: and lots of other issues. So it's actually about talking to our residents and community groups and seeing what are the issues that they're facing in their daily lives and using climate action as a vehicle to create positive change in those areas. So, for example, reducing your carbon footprint at home will save you money
183 00:19:32.080 --> 00:19:36.400 Katie Clubb: as well as being a fantastic step towards reducing our
184 00:19:36.570 --> 00:19:50.279 Katie Clubb: overall local authorities carbon footprint. So it's trying to find what resonates with different people. And that brings me on to a useful piece of
185 00:19:50.730 --> 00:19:57.659 Katie Clubb: research that's been done, which is all around communicating with different groups of people, because
186 00:19:57.660 --> 00:20:21.040 Katie Clubb: communication can't just be the same for everyone across all groups, because we know that people respond differently. So there will be some people that respond to urgency and climate emergency talk and are engaged by that and driven to activism and change. But, as I said, there's a lot of people that we really turned off to that language.
187 00:20:21.511 --> 00:20:32.830 Katie Clubb: So it's important to know which groups you're talking to and how they might respond. So there's been a great piece of work done
188 00:20:33.390 --> 00:20:44.210 Katie Clubb: by Britain talks climate and the companies. The overall organization is called outreach. So it's Britain talks climate, and they have
189 00:20:44.280 --> 00:20:56.030 Katie Clubb: surveyed over 10,000 people to segment the British public into 7 different categories, so the categories that they have come up with
190 00:20:56.050 --> 00:21:07.250 Katie Clubb: that encompass the whole of the representative sample of the British public are progressive activists, backbone conservatives, civic pragmatists.
191 00:21:07.590 --> 00:21:36.029 Katie Clubb: established Liberals, disengaged battlers, disengaged traditionalists, and loyal nationals, and the important point is that all of these segments respond differently to different messaging. So it wasn't just climate change that these 10,000 people were surveyed on. It was Covid as well, but there was also a really interesting kind of overarching thing that came out of
192 00:21:36.030 --> 00:21:58.270 Katie Clubb: this piece of research was that it revealed that the public is fractured but not deeply polarized, and climate change is emerging as an issue that has the potential to unite us. Now, I think that's a really important thing to remember, because it's very easy to think
193 00:21:58.420 --> 00:22:00.479 Katie Clubb: right now in today's
194 00:22:01.190 --> 00:22:25.620 Katie Clubb: kind of world that everyone is polarized. And it's this, Us. Versus them rhetoric in everything, all across different swathes of society and industry, and especially with the recent elections, just seeing how polarized the world has become, especially in politics. So it's really encouraging, I think, for me to see that
195 00:22:25.620 --> 00:22:42.980 Katie Clubb: actually, although there are these kind of segmentations, that climate change has emerged as one of the key issues that can unite us. And there's more that brought these groups, more that united these groups than there was that separated them.
196 00:22:43.020 --> 00:22:48.960 Katie Clubb: So it's a really interesting study that is accessible
197 00:22:49.150 --> 00:23:10.879 Katie Clubb: everywhere. So to everyone. So you can find it online, and you can download the full report. And the report goes into how you can then communicate with each of those segments, and provides you with the questionnaire that you can then use to survey local people in your authority to then
198 00:23:10.990 --> 00:23:25.510 Katie Clubb: find out what percentage of those 7 segments you have in your local authority. So it's a really interesting piece of research to engage different groups. And
199 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:29.749 Katie Clubb: so I think that's something that
200 00:23:29.830 --> 00:23:50.830 Katie Clubb: is, yeah, really key to take away. And when I was doing my research to, and I was asking lots of different local authorities what kind of resources do you use? Do you have any things that underpin your approach to communication? This came back time and time again as one of those key pieces of research.
201 00:23:50.940 --> 00:23:57.219 Katie Clubb: So that's a really interesting thing to look at. Then
202 00:23:57.290 --> 00:24:19.980 Katie Clubb: the next kind of piece of resource that I'd like to share is the Ashton, sustainable towns and cities, tools for councils. So that specifically looks at co-benefits. And it's a climate action co-benefits toolkit. Now, I can share all of these with you afterwards, so I can provide all the links
203 00:24:20.190 --> 00:24:23.239 Katie Clubb: and everything in the chat afterwards.
204 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:49.809 Katie Clubb: But the Ashton sustainable towns and cities, tools for councils provides a full kind of co-benefits toolkit that shows the benefits of different actions that you can take. And there's a list of 31 climate actions that are all quantified in terms of their likely carbon savings, their approximate cost.
205 00:24:49.810 --> 00:25:06.110 Katie Clubb: and their co-benefits in terms of improved health and wellbeing, social equality, thriving economies, and community resilience. So they also provide some case studies of best examples and practice around the Uk
206 00:25:06.110 --> 00:25:23.970 Katie Clubb: in terms of communication of those actions. So that's something that I've also been looking at that fits in nicely with the co-benefits approach to communication. And how we talk about the projects that we're going to be doing
207 00:25:28.660 --> 00:25:30.000 Katie Clubb: so
208 00:25:30.350 --> 00:25:53.009 Katie Clubb: in my another kind of thought area. That's kind of informed my work so far on how we're going to communicate all of the range of different projects that are going to be making up this climate change. Engagement programme is around the kind of disconnect between
209 00:25:53.010 --> 00:26:14.769 Katie Clubb: people and nature and how that feeds into people's attitudes towards climate action, so climate is often seen as very political. And again, I think, that links back to the being associated, asks of different groups of people, and asking people to give up things
210 00:26:15.030 --> 00:26:16.210 Katie Clubb: and
211 00:26:16.290 --> 00:26:24.359 Katie Clubb: and change their behaviors. So, and also has effects then on, you know.
212 00:26:24.530 --> 00:26:31.160 Katie Clubb: different political decisions. So I think that's another reason that it talking about climate often
213 00:26:31.290 --> 00:26:48.209 Katie Clubb: kind of switches people off, whereas nature is very apolitical, neutral, and seen, as you know, an old friend, that we've lost touch with rather than this kind of, you know, angsty
214 00:26:48.590 --> 00:26:53.479 Katie Clubb: political thing, that that climate has become. So
215 00:26:53.820 --> 00:27:02.829 Katie Clubb: there's some really great speakers on this one called Rob Hopkins, who started the transition network.
216 00:27:02.980 --> 00:27:17.879 Katie Clubb: And he's got a fantastic podcast which is called from what if to what next? And there was an episode that I listened to, which is called, what if we deeply listen to the natural world?
217 00:27:18.100 --> 00:27:19.049 Katie Clubb: And that's all around.
218 00:27:19.050 --> 00:27:19.910 Jennifer Lanham: How are you doing.
219 00:27:20.450 --> 00:27:28.690 Katie Clubb: A two-way kind of communication with people and nature, and talks about how
220 00:27:28.940 --> 00:27:35.479 Katie Clubb: we have lost so much nature connection, and points to that as a reason towards
221 00:27:35.560 --> 00:27:40.520 Katie Clubb: why people are struggling to get involved with climate action.
222 00:27:40.710 --> 00:27:41.315 Katie Clubb: So
223 00:27:41.960 --> 00:28:10.620 Katie Clubb: something that we're thinking about in the approach to the program that I'm going to be running is, how do we get people more connected with nature? And here in the forest of Dean we're surrounded by gorgeous ancient woodland. But the Uk overall. The statistic from the Guardian is that out of 14 European countries the Uk is the most disconnected from nature.
224 00:28:10.750 --> 00:28:12.950 Katie Clubb: And I think this is
225 00:28:13.280 --> 00:28:33.400 Katie Clubb: yeah, is the heart of a real issue of around getting people more involved with climate action and on board with measures, because there's such a disconnect between us and the natural world, and as soon as we don't see ourselves as part of nature, I think that's when we start to work against it.
226 00:28:33.570 --> 00:28:54.210 Katie Clubb: So this is something we want to explore through the mediums of kind of art and through culture and music, and trying to get people to envision a future that is more positive. So one of Rob Hopkins
227 00:28:54.400 --> 00:29:11.080 Katie Clubb: things he does is a visioning for 2030, and asks people to think about what does the future look like? What does 2030 in the future look like smell like sound like, and trying to think about that in
228 00:29:11.130 --> 00:29:22.620 Katie Clubb: a way that we've we've done all these kind of fantastic decarbonisation initiatives. And what are the again, the Co. Benefits that are created from that in terms of
229 00:29:22.620 --> 00:29:43.510 Katie Clubb: thinking about air quality is fantastic, and there's no less cars on the road, and children can play outside and thinking about how, what's the ideal future, and actually creating a longing for a different future to one that currently feels like we're becoming locked into.
230 00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:46.809 Katie Clubb: And this is really interesting because
231 00:29:46.830 --> 00:29:58.490 Katie Clubb: it's a tool that marketers use in their communication techniques to make us buy more stuff and consume more stuff.
232 00:29:58.500 --> 00:30:14.059 Katie Clubb: So it's interesting to try and harness those tools and use them for something really positive in terms of creating a culture of of climate action. So
233 00:30:14.180 --> 00:30:25.659 Katie Clubb: why is marketing so effective? So you think of the likes of your John Lewis advert and things like that. I'm sure we'll see that their Christmas advert very soon, if it's not out already.
234 00:30:25.660 --> 00:30:50.489 Katie Clubb: But those advertising marketing campaigns are so effective because they really tap into our deep seated insecurities and desires. So for love, for companionship, for connection to others and to ourselves, and to finding meaning and identity. And they use those techniques to then drive
235 00:30:50.550 --> 00:30:56.887 Katie Clubb: longing and want and desire to then push us to consume and to buy things.
236 00:30:57.430 --> 00:31:09.669 Katie Clubb: but what if we use those exact same techniques to create a longing for a different future, for one that has all of those beautiful co-benefits and creates
237 00:31:09.690 --> 00:31:13.242 Katie Clubb: a feature that is really exciting and
238 00:31:13.980 --> 00:31:15.120 Katie Clubb: and
239 00:31:15.180 --> 00:31:31.110 Katie Clubb: nourishing, and has creates better well-being for everyone involved. So that's something I think, that we can push towards is creating a longing for for a future that's different to one that we're
240 00:31:31.230 --> 00:31:51.300 Katie Clubb: yeah is currently on the trajectory for and using that co-benefits approach to do that and to at the same time link up nature connection, and get people more engaged, and see us as as part of that, as part of that whole journey. We are nature. We are
241 00:31:51.420 --> 00:32:00.640 Katie Clubb: part of the environment. And that's such a key part of of climate change, and everything will be affected by the climate changing. So
242 00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:21.570 Katie Clubb: I think that's something I'm really keen to do, because it makes it so much easier to involve young people and different community groups when you're using. Yet this kind of lighter touch and more artistic kind of thinking to access.
243 00:32:22.328 --> 00:32:25.031 Katie Clubb: Thinking about what a feature could look like.
244 00:32:25.490 --> 00:32:31.779 Katie Clubb: beyond. Yeah. Just kind of the fear mongering to try and change people's behaviors.
245 00:32:33.300 --> 00:32:34.670 Katie Clubb: so
246 00:32:35.250 --> 00:33:01.512 Katie Clubb: we also know that as part of communication, really great accurate information is important, and to be able to present that in a way that's really easy to understand and inclusive for everyone. So I wanted to share a couple of resources as well, that are, I found, really useful for
247 00:33:02.130 --> 00:33:24.210 Katie Clubb: for basically showing what the situation is that can be quite specific to a local authority. So recently, there is a new tool that's come out from the met office called. It's the abbreviation is lacs. So it's the local authority climate service, and
248 00:33:24.290 --> 00:33:25.380 Katie Clubb: I can
249 00:33:25.780 --> 00:33:38.909 Katie Clubb: share my screen and show you what that looks like. And I really recommend having a play around with it to get a really good understanding as to what climate change will look like in your authority.
250 00:33:39.500 --> 00:33:40.930 Katie Clubb: So if I just
251 00:33:43.020 --> 00:33:45.459 Katie Clubb: share my screen, can everyone see that
252 00:33:49.020 --> 00:33:50.490 Katie Clubb: cool? Yeah.
253 00:33:50.680 --> 00:34:03.019 Katie Clubb: yeah, perfect. Okay, so this is the local authority climate explorer. So you can select your local authority here. So I've put in yeah, Forest of Dean.
254 00:34:03.770 --> 00:34:15.020 Katie Clubb: And it comes up with a really nice couple of graphs specific to to your local authority, so you can toggle through them here. So changing
255 00:34:15.210 --> 00:34:23.740 Katie Clubb: winter medium temperature, summer precipitation rates, winter precipitation rates, and that sea level data.
256 00:34:24.520 --> 00:34:30.680 Katie Clubb: An annual average temperature. Then you can also click here to generate a report.
257 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:33.850 Katie Clubb: and it produces a really
258 00:34:34.310 --> 00:34:35.320 Katie Clubb: nice
259 00:34:36.762 --> 00:34:38.467 Katie Clubb: report of
260 00:34:39.820 --> 00:34:51.249 Katie Clubb: a summary. That's something that's really easy to understand for your average person. And you can pick out bits of this to use in your comms. So
261 00:34:51.429 --> 00:34:56.710 Katie Clubb: there's different graphs as well that you can use and
262 00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:03.000 Katie Clubb: yeah, that I think that's something that can really inform conversation. And be kind of
263 00:35:04.900 --> 00:35:11.124 Katie Clubb: yeah. Used to draw upon when planning different comms so internally as well as
264 00:35:11.660 --> 00:35:22.859 Katie Clubb: externally. So that's a fantastic tool. So that's yeah. From the met office again, anyone can access it. So if you just search for lacs
265 00:35:22.930 --> 00:35:30.690 Katie Clubb: and it gives a clear and easy way to understand data and graphs on changes to local climate systems due to global warming.
266 00:35:31.070 --> 00:35:33.470 Katie Clubb: Then the next one
267 00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:38.440 Katie Clubb: I wanted to share was.
268 00:35:38.780 --> 00:35:40.440 Katie Clubb: let's see, no
269 00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:51.659 Katie Clubb: So there's 1 called Scatter from Anthesis group. So I've not got it up.
270 00:35:57.340 --> 00:36:04.840 Katie Clubb: and again, this is for local authorities. So it's a emissions reporting tool for local authorities.
271 00:36:06.310 --> 00:36:16.690 Katie Clubb: and this again produces some really nice graphs to articulate what's needed to move to net 0. So
272 00:36:16.980 --> 00:36:30.200 Katie Clubb: this is another tool that I think, is a really good one for accuracy of reporting, which again, I think, is essential to underpin communication around climate change.
273 00:36:30.370 --> 00:36:38.969 Katie Clubb: and then in terms of getting people to on board with all of the different jargon that comes with
274 00:36:39.630 --> 00:36:55.669 Katie Clubb: climate change and climate action. This is something I've always found really useful is the eddy jargon. Buster. So it's called, Eddy explains, is the website. And under resources. There's this jargon Buster, with a real A To Z list
275 00:36:55.670 --> 00:37:09.980 Katie Clubb: of loads of different terms around sustainability and net 0 and climate action. So something that I want to do as part of the Comms piece is provide
276 00:37:10.210 --> 00:37:27.339 Katie Clubb: some training and events going through jargon busting. And what do all these words mean? Because language is so important? And often language can really exclude people from the conversations. So an example of this is like retrofit. So
277 00:37:27.340 --> 00:37:51.350 Katie Clubb: retrofit doesn't mean anything to anyone outside of the kind of sustainability space. And that's why lots of authorities have taken on schemes naming their schemes so warm and well and comfortable homes. And really just talking about what that scheme actually entails is essentially yeah, bringing making houses more energy efficient and bringing down
278 00:37:51.430 --> 00:37:54.909 Katie Clubb: the cost of bills for them, and in the meantime
279 00:37:55.370 --> 00:38:10.510 Katie Clubb: reducing wasted energy. So really trying to think about the language that we use, and making that as easy and accessible as possible for people, but promoting things like this to really understand
280 00:38:10.740 --> 00:38:17.010 Katie Clubb: what what these terms mean. And they also have some really good reports. On, Eddie explains
281 00:38:17.530 --> 00:38:26.829 Katie Clubb: as well. So. And then the other one I wanted to show you was I mentioned earlier was Ashton. So that was the
282 00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:36.500 Katie Clubb: toolkit for city regions and local authorities around co-benefits. So this is a fantastic website
283 00:38:36.750 --> 00:38:43.360 Katie Clubb: that goes through all of yeah, these benefits of of climate, action, and
284 00:38:43.430 --> 00:38:53.309 Katie Clubb: framing climate action in a way that that moves through this co-benefits approach. So they're my
285 00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:59.339 Katie Clubb: my offerings to you as really great resources. To help
286 00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:00.690 Katie Clubb: communicate.
287 00:39:01.740 --> 00:39:09.570 Katie Clubb: the climate climate crisis in your local authorities. So if I've got.
288 00:39:09.790 --> 00:39:19.710 Katie Clubb: if you're happy for me to keep talking, I can talk about a couple more kind of approaches that we're going to be using. So I think something that's
289 00:39:19.860 --> 00:39:22.989 Katie Clubb: really important is
290 00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:42.349 Katie Clubb: through using trusted messengers and relationship building. So thinking about where information comes from so often coming from a district council, people have certain preconceptions as to, you know, different agendas and things like that. So
291 00:39:42.460 --> 00:39:58.159 Katie Clubb: we're trying to identify trusted messengers in the communities and different community groups, and trying to promote messages to people through those messengers. And and
292 00:39:58.510 --> 00:40:06.700 Katie Clubb: a famous quote is that change only happens as quickly as relationships. So really it takes
293 00:40:06.830 --> 00:40:19.119 Katie Clubb: quite a long time to build this momentum and build trust to bring about this change, so that also makes it more relevant to people's lives. So if they hear a message through
294 00:40:19.410 --> 00:40:44.139 Katie Clubb: a organisation that they really care about, and it actually means something to them and brings a totally different engagement kind of perspective than just, you know, a district council sharing a message about recycling, so trying to think about where communication comes from and how to make it accessible to everyone as well. So using a mixture of approaches as well.
295 00:40:45.410 --> 00:41:06.679 Katie Clubb: so we know here in forests of Dean, digital inclusivity is a big problem. So there's lots of people that have low Internet access or just aren't online at all. So trying to think about, how do you put messaging out there in a way that is accessible to everyone? So
296 00:41:06.930 --> 00:41:34.229 Katie Clubb: I've been in contact with our local radio station, Dean radio, and they're really keen to help share messaging. So I'm going to try and have a regular slot there to talk about climate action that's taking place across the district again, not just focusing on what the District Council are doing, but talking about. You know local stories, local heroes that have done fantastic stuff. Because, again, that's
297 00:41:34.230 --> 00:41:54.759 Katie Clubb: is what engages and inspires people rather than district council kind of telling people what they should be doing so, using different approaches. Newsletters work well in some areas in some places that just wouldn't work, and also having some
298 00:41:55.190 --> 00:42:20.029 Katie Clubb: print versions. But also you're thinking about resources and environment when so not printing off all of them. But if you know that there's an area that is really low on digital digital inclusion. Making that accessible, using notice boards and and things that are already there as well as you know your your social media platforms as well.
299 00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:37.030 Katie Clubb: and social media is a fantastic source of information. It's become one of the biggest sources of information for people now, so that there are some fantastic Instagram accounts that I follow, and great things to promote through there
300 00:42:37.030 --> 00:43:02.520 Katie Clubb: one account called Earthly Education, which is really really popular with the younger generation, and it uses memes to talk about climate issues. And some are really funny. Some are really sad, but it really engages you in a totally different way that just makes you think differently. So thinking about yeah, the narrative and how that's put across
301 00:43:02.560 --> 00:43:05.037 Katie Clubb: in in lots of different ways.
302 00:43:05.650 --> 00:43:07.100 Katie Clubb: is important.
303 00:43:07.220 --> 00:43:08.460 Katie Clubb: So
304 00:43:08.550 --> 00:43:25.370 Katie Clubb: that's my kind of summary of things. So yeah, co-benefits interconnectedness with nature. Using really great tools and fact-based
305 00:43:25.990 --> 00:43:29.869 Katie Clubb: evidence to back up that messaging.
306 00:43:29.940 --> 00:43:56.869 Katie Clubb: using the tools that marketers and use to drive consumption, to engage people in a way that creates a longing for a different future, and using a mixture of lots of different approaches to try and engage people, whilst also thinking about the segments of the population, and how not everyone is going to be engaged in the same way, and how
307 00:43:56.940 --> 00:44:21.930 Katie Clubb: that might change from from different groups and so utilising some fantastic resources and research that's already out there, that is general to the Uk, but also can be much more specific to our local authorities. So yeah, I think I'll finish it there. And I can share all of those links in the chat whilst we've still got time. But I hope that's been a
308 00:44:21.930 --> 00:44:28.201 Katie Clubb: kind of interesting view to see how my brain is going when I'm trying to
309 00:44:28.620 --> 00:44:42.820 Katie Clubb: approach this massive task of basically coming up with a Commons plan around climate action. And I think there's a lot more to it than just. Yeah, you know, creating a plan. It's actually understanding the demographics and understanding
310 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:55.289 Katie Clubb: a lot about psychology. And what makes people want to change their behaviors and kind of yeah, using those things to inform how we communicate with residents so
311 00:44:55.470 --> 00:45:03.560 Katie Clubb: hopefully. You've taken something from that. I see a hand up, Belinda, would you like to ask a question.
312 00:45:06.870 --> 00:45:09.349 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Let me just jump in, Katie, before
313 00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:19.949 Graham Stoddart-Stones: it's going, if I may just to say Thank you so much for a brilliant presentation that was really quite fascinating. I'm amazed at my prowess in inviting you to come. In the 1st place.
314 00:45:20.470 --> 00:45:30.579 Graham Stoddart-Stones: a very bright move on my part. I think it would be wonderful for everybody. If 2 things could happen, one. If you could stop sharing your screen, then we'd all.
315 00:45:30.580 --> 00:45:32.840 Katie Clubb: Oh, I'm so sorry!
316 00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:40.269 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thing is, I'm going to insist on you, please putting together at least a 2 page presentation with all these facts on it, because.
317 00:45:40.820 --> 00:45:46.619 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well worth having, and I know it's good to have it in the chat, but I think it's even better to put it in a presentation. If you could.
318 00:45:46.620 --> 00:45:47.090 Katie Clubb: Hmm.
319 00:45:47.090 --> 00:45:54.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, I apologize for jumping in on top of Belinda, but just wanted to say, Thank you so much. It was superb. Well done.
320 00:45:54.270 --> 00:45:56.419 Katie Clubb: Oh, thank you so much.
321 00:45:57.610 --> 00:46:02.509 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: Yeah, Hi, I was going to say the same thing. So I've just been doing a carbon literacy workshop.
322 00:46:02.510 --> 00:46:02.880 Katie Clubb: We've.
323 00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:18.150 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: He's also jumped on, and we were scheduled to do 9 till one. But because we saw this banter session was coming up, and because we were mostly talking about. How do you talk about climate change, and what are the communication tools we thought, shall we race through.
324 00:46:18.895 --> 00:46:19.640 Katie Clubb: Not.
325 00:46:19.640 --> 00:46:26.830 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: You know, not do the plan thing and come and join you. So yeah, a lot of what you were saying is kind of
326 00:46:27.292 --> 00:46:53.109 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: what we were talking about as well. Yeah, I'm definitely keen on the links, definitely keen on. If you've got some more advice on Instagram accounts, because I'm a complete novice in that. We talked a lot today in our we had quite a small group, and it's run through Dorset climate action network, and I suspect that we're very similar to Forest of Dean in terms of, apart from the fact that we've got a lovely coastline.
327 00:46:53.996 --> 00:46:57.439 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: Some of the issues you've raised about people who don't have any
328 00:46:58.075 --> 00:47:07.450 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: interest, or they're put off by talking about climate change or their or they don't have digital connectivity. So it's really interesting to have
329 00:47:07.842 --> 00:47:19.559 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: you know your, your kind of awareness of all the different ways we we are trying to reach people. But yeah, we came up with it was amazing, because it was a small group. It was really good.
330 00:47:19.560 --> 00:47:19.980 Katie Clubb: So.
331 00:47:19.980 --> 00:47:49.439 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: So what are you doing locally? What more would you like to do locally? It's just so many people are doing some amazing things like you were talking about connection with nature, because in Lyme I've tried to do I mean, I was lyme readers, town Council, Dorset, Councillor. No longer on the town council, but I've tried to do lots of community engagement and lots of visioning for 2030. I did exercise with the primary school where I got
332 00:47:50.470 --> 00:47:55.459 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: a group, went in and made a little video with the youngest class, which at the time
333 00:47:55.818 --> 00:47:59.309 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: we worked out that they were going to be turning teenagers in 20.
334 00:48:00.310 --> 00:48:05.019 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: It also coincided with the. They were the post lockdown kids.
335 00:48:05.020 --> 00:48:05.710 Katie Clubb: Right.
336 00:48:05.710 --> 00:48:20.929 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: They've been stuck at home, and they didn't have any social skills. So yeah, exercise that they went in once a week for an afternoon, and sort of taught them how to work together to create a cartoon about how they would like languages to look when they turn to.
337 00:48:21.930 --> 00:48:28.140 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: So we've got this really sweet little video, which I don't quite know what to do with, apart from the fact that it's been done, and the school really
338 00:48:28.510 --> 00:48:29.909 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: got a lot out of it.
339 00:48:29.910 --> 00:48:31.540 Katie Clubb: Oh, that's so lovely!
340 00:48:31.540 --> 00:48:34.100 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: Talking a lot today about
341 00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.879 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: the sort of things that have captured the imagination in line reaches. So where
342 00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:44.509 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: my attempts at, you know, getting people together to kind of create a vision didn't really work.
343 00:48:44.930 --> 00:48:47.940 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: What has worked is that the the river monitoring.
344 00:48:49.080 --> 00:48:50.810 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: Everyone cares about sewage in the.
345 00:48:50.810 --> 00:48:54.041 Katie Clubb: Yeah, it's exactly the same here.
346 00:48:54.580 --> 00:48:56.329 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: The guy at Swanage was saying.
347 00:48:56.330 --> 00:48:56.850 Katie Clubb: Yeah.
348 00:48:56.850 --> 00:48:59.999 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: It's really interesting for them, because they're similar to us in that they're touring.
349 00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:00.590 Katie Clubb: Yeah.
350 00:49:00.590 --> 00:49:03.369 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: So we have a load of visitors coming in and load.
351 00:49:03.370 --> 00:49:04.030 Katie Clubb: Yeah.
352 00:49:04.030 --> 00:49:05.120 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: The residents.
353 00:49:05.230 --> 00:49:08.779 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: Residents see the attention going into the visitors.
354 00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:13.849 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: But that they also found that a kind of fairly innocuous.
355 00:49:13.900 --> 00:49:22.639 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: not terribly attractive stream in the middle of town that the residents felt really connected to it in a way that they didn't feel connected to the seafront. So.
356 00:49:22.640 --> 00:49:23.560 Katie Clubb: Yeah.
357 00:49:23.560 --> 00:49:26.139 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: Found that having a river group.
358 00:49:26.930 --> 00:49:30.809 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: And you know that, and that certainly happened with our neighbouring village in Chalmouth.
359 00:49:30.810 --> 00:49:36.959 Katie Clubb: Absolutely. It's the same thing here. The Save the Y campaign brought together so many different groups of people.
360 00:49:37.560 --> 00:49:53.540 Katie Clubb: the anglers, and everyone that people that previously haven't been engaged in in different things. And totally yeah, new to like faces. And it takes something like that that really does bring everyone together. So yeah.
361 00:49:53.540 --> 00:49:59.900 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: He politicizes it completely about caring for your community, and just just quickly. One more thing I was going to.
362 00:49:59.900 --> 00:50:00.867 Katie Clubb: Yeah, yeah, please.
363 00:50:01.532 --> 00:50:09.069 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: Graham and I did a a carbon literacy, a very brief presentation at the Dorset cop, recently, couple of weeks ago.
364 00:50:09.700 --> 00:50:17.509 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: and a lady afterwards came up to me to say she wasn't in it, but she'd been doing the talk just before me.
365 00:50:17.550 --> 00:50:21.399 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: and she she's an architecture lecturer
366 00:50:21.450 --> 00:50:23.960 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: at Portsmouth. I think it was, but she.
367 00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:24.439 Katie Clubb: You can.
368 00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:29.249 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: Find me to say, because I came to your workshop this time last year. At the 1st
369 00:50:30.350 --> 00:50:34.000 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: I'd talked about Rob Hopkins book. What from what is, to what is.
370 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:34.640 Katie Clubb: Bye.
371 00:50:34.640 --> 00:50:40.570 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: And I'd also showed them Sadiq Khan's book about his journey to understand how
372 00:50:41.080 --> 00:50:57.089 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: you know how to. You know the need to stop air pollution killing Londoners. He got asthma, and then he sort of learned more about it. So I held those 2 books up as examples of sort of practical action and ways that you can inspire people.
373 00:50:57.580 --> 00:51:06.779 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: And anyway, she said, because you mentioned that she now teaches that whole approach of visioning and creativity.
374 00:51:06.780 --> 00:51:07.440 Katie Clubb: Yes.
375 00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:11.119 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: Better future to her on her architecture, course, and.
376 00:51:11.120 --> 00:51:12.500 Katie Clubb: Amazing.
377 00:51:12.500 --> 00:51:13.150 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: Yes, you know I do.
378 00:51:13.150 --> 00:51:14.650 Katie Clubb: Wow!
379 00:51:14.650 --> 00:51:16.379 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: Quite know the impact you're going to have.
380 00:51:16.380 --> 00:51:17.250 Katie Clubb: Yes.
381 00:51:17.250 --> 00:51:19.560 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: That feedback was lovely anyway. Thank you very much.
382 00:51:19.560 --> 00:51:25.109 Katie Clubb: Fantastic. Well, it just shows that it is. It's an approach that works so well and gets
383 00:51:25.180 --> 00:51:48.029 Katie Clubb: often. People say to me when I talk to locals and stuff that they just don't know where to start. They don't know how to engage at all. And I think, having one of those visioning sessions like anyone can take part in. And to think, Well, what do you want the future to look like? And then how? How can we get there, and everyone's got such a unique skill set, and everyone's got connections. And that's
384 00:51:48.030 --> 00:51:54.906 Katie Clubb: what it's all about. And everyone's got so much power, especially in your consumption habits, and you know, paying with
385 00:51:55.300 --> 00:51:58.160 Katie Clubb: your wallet is is so huge, and really can
386 00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:00.580 Katie Clubb: really changed the world so.
387 00:52:00.580 --> 00:52:05.849 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: Younger younger people are not inhibited by all the sort of barriers that you know, we
388 00:52:06.570 --> 00:52:12.770 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: think. Oh, well, no one's going to listen, or Oh, Council won't let us do that. But young people are completely uninhibited.
389 00:52:12.770 --> 00:52:14.930 Katie Clubb: Yeah, yeah. I didn't know that.
390 00:52:14.930 --> 00:52:20.370 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: They just come up with brilliant ideas, which may be totally bonkers, but there might be a seat of it which makes a lot of sense.
391 00:52:20.370 --> 00:52:21.030 Katie Clubb: Yeah.
392 00:52:21.030 --> 00:52:21.650 Belinda Bawden Dorset CAN, Dorset Council, TGC: Thank you.
393 00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:24.130 Katie Clubb: Definitely. Thank you, Belinda.
394 00:52:27.150 --> 00:52:28.940 Katie Clubb: I saw some other hands.
395 00:52:28.940 --> 00:52:29.820 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: John.
396 00:52:31.330 --> 00:52:33.810 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, John Payne is 1st
397 00:52:34.070 --> 00:52:36.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Katie and then Mervyn.
398 00:52:36.210 --> 00:52:38.340 Katie Clubb: Oh, lovely! Thank you!
399 00:52:39.580 --> 00:52:40.820 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: You're muted, John.
400 00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:53.128 John Payne: Hi, yeah, thanks for the talk. And I'm really looking forward to all those resources.
401 00:52:53.827 --> 00:52:54.542 Katie Clubb: No problem.
402 00:52:54.900 --> 00:53:05.099 John Payne: Can I just say there is another way which is much more effective. I spent 10 years with a transition movement, and then I moved on to extinction, rebellion in 2,000
403 00:53:05.240 --> 00:53:07.350 John Payne: and 2019.
404 00:53:09.240 --> 00:53:11.030 John Payne: And I believe that
405 00:53:11.090 --> 00:53:23.040 John Payne: you have to have people engaged in local issues, particularly saying, for example, the why, which has been absolutely brilliant and brought everybody together as a last speaker. But
406 00:53:23.160 --> 00:53:29.600 John Payne: I think also about we have a problem with the rockfall on the main road into Wales.
407 00:53:29.610 --> 00:53:34.640 John Payne: which has been partially closed since February, and I think it's it's looking at the
408 00:53:35.190 --> 00:53:46.379 John Payne: the way that companies, local authorities, look at the risks of climate, instability and uncertainty, and how we communicate that to to people, because
409 00:53:47.030 --> 00:53:50.100 John Payne: people here that they won't be able to go to work
410 00:53:50.130 --> 00:54:03.590 John Payne: when they close the main road which is going which is happening quite soon and putting in a contra flow system. The lorries won't be able to get into South Wales, and these are issues that people really do engage in because
411 00:54:04.490 --> 00:54:05.236 John Payne: they they
412 00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:07.360 John Payne: relate to.
413 00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:08.829 Katie Clubb: That's their whole life.
414 00:54:08.830 --> 00:54:16.459 John Payne: Their whole life. So I'm looking at a way of how do we communicate with the general public about the risks to their present day?
415 00:54:16.460 --> 00:54:17.120 Katie Clubb: Yay!
416 00:54:17.120 --> 00:54:23.509 John Payne: And how do we get councils to? Not just sit on their hands, but actually do something.
417 00:54:24.160 --> 00:54:49.859 Katie Clubb: Yeah. And the risks that you talk about that's exactly what I'm working with. The local parish and town councils on is coming up with those risk summaries. So what are the specific risks in the local areas and the main ones like for the towns here are flooding and extreme weather events. And already they're seeing.
418 00:54:50.190 --> 00:54:53.020 Katie Clubb: you know, big impacts of flooding, and
419 00:54:53.040 --> 00:54:58.327 Katie Clubb: which then affects the local economy, and especially the farming community and all sorts. So
420 00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:05.690 Katie Clubb: yeah, looking into the risk profile of the locality is really important. Because you can then see, yeah, exactly
421 00:55:06.010 --> 00:55:08.460 Katie Clubb: what's what the problems are going to be like.
422 00:55:08.580 --> 00:55:22.400 Katie Clubb: I think even this summer there was problems with the the roads like starting to melt, and and things like that. So it's things that even in the next couple of years we're going to have to adapt to. And these risks are becoming
423 00:55:22.810 --> 00:55:31.139 Katie Clubb: years ahead of what we're expecting are becoming a problem for here and now. So yeah, I think as soon as there is that.
424 00:55:31.140 --> 00:55:33.960 John Payne: You very much, you know, and I'm looking at a way.
425 00:55:34.050 --> 00:55:41.379 John Payne: you know, which. That book by by Mervyn King, you know about the radical uncertainty of life that that is what I really recommend. People look at.
426 00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:42.950 John Payne: But thanks. Yeah.
427 00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:44.700 Katie Clubb: Thank you. John.
428 00:55:49.120 --> 00:55:51.010 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And on to Mervyn. Please.
429 00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:55.485 Mervyn Head: Hi, Katie, thank you very much for your talk.
430 00:55:56.529 --> 00:56:06.320 Mervyn Head: I found it very interesting, and feel quite a synergy with what you're trying to do through what we're doing here in North Kesteven, in central Lincolnshire.
431 00:56:06.783 --> 00:56:10.929 Mervyn Head: Before I rattle on about that, I would just like to ask you a couple of questions.
432 00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:16.820 Mervyn Head: and the 1st one is, how do you engage with your elected members?
433 00:56:17.420 --> 00:56:22.569 Mervyn Head: That's the 1st question. And how are you engaging with your parish and town councils?
434 00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:24.990 Katie Clubb: So
435 00:56:25.370 --> 00:56:26.400 Katie Clubb: our
436 00:56:26.430 --> 00:56:39.410 Katie Clubb: elected members. I think we're very lucky that they are incredibly passionate. We've got a very ambitious council, and they are very, very much on board
437 00:56:39.580 --> 00:56:52.240 Katie Clubb: and driving in driving seat of a lot of the action. And so there's quite a few of them that we've been engaging with at local events and just in the District Council
438 00:56:52.380 --> 00:57:10.880 Katie Clubb: having having chats with, and they seem to be involved in all of these other different community groups and initiatives. So it's happened quite naturally at the minute. But I'm yeah. I'm still 2 months in. So in terms of like the official kind of
439 00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:15.669 Katie Clubb: communication ways. I'm probably not.
440 00:57:15.990 --> 00:57:44.170 Katie Clubb: I'm not clued up on that just yet, but the bit that I am leading on more specifically is the town and Parish councils. So I can talk about that in kind of more certainty, because we've just had a session where we invited all the town and parish councillors to a meeting to talk about how we can better engage with them. And so we we sat down. It was a evening meeting
441 00:57:44.510 --> 00:58:09.478 Katie Clubb: 2 weeks ago now. And we asked everyone, how? What are the issues that you're currently kind of facing of engagement? And how can we better work together? So we came up with lots of ideas for that. And one things will take forwards is regular meetings and then there's also meetings set up with the clerks as well, specifically, and they're having their own
442 00:58:10.040 --> 00:58:39.770 Katie Clubb: kind of regular meetings across the district as well. And then I've been in the process of meeting with as many parish councillors as I can around their Climate action plan. So at that meeting we had, I said, I want to know anything that anyone is doing around climate action? Have you got a climate action plan in place already? Have you got a biodiversity plan in place? Do you have an adaptation plan? Do you have risk summaries?
443 00:58:39.990 --> 00:59:09.370 Katie Clubb: And do you have any measures that are currently happening? So then got chatting to lots of people, got email addresses and set up meetings. And so I've had a couple so far with some really engaged councillors, and I'm going to be working with 2 of them at least, who've got some section 106 money that needs to be spent on air quality improvement measures. So that's something.
444 00:59:09.882 --> 00:59:16.977 Katie Clubb: Really kind of concrete excuse. The the irony that can come out of this is
445 00:59:17.670 --> 00:59:27.220 Katie Clubb: yes, coming up with projects to to kind of spend that money. So that's just one way that I'm working with. 2 of the parishes so far. But
446 00:59:27.300 --> 00:59:51.229 Katie Clubb: yeah, hopefully, we're also going to be supporting them with a follow on workshop. So we provided support before I came into post to create the adaptation plans. And now in January want to give some extra support to do a workshop as to like, what now? How do we keep that moving forwards? And then offering, yeah, kind of constant
447 00:59:51.240 --> 01:00:00.180 Katie Clubb: support from offices to kind of inspire and and give support wherever it's needed.
448 01:00:00.180 --> 01:00:09.189 Mervyn Head: Right, but after this event is finished I would like to keep in contact with you. I'll explain what we're doing here in North kest even. It's a slightly different approach.
449 01:00:10.008 --> 01:00:18.659 Mervyn Head: Back in the summer we sent a survey out to all of our parish councils asking those very questions. Have you got a crime action and biodiversity action Plan.
450 01:00:19.200 --> 01:00:19.720 Katie Clubb: Yeah.
451 01:00:19.720 --> 01:00:26.809 Mervyn Head: And the response was very scattered. Shall we say from the Paris Council that came back?
452 01:00:27.220 --> 01:00:41.180 Mervyn Head: But of those that responded to that we've then taken a slightly different approach. My role on the District Council. It's a very grandiose title that they've given me. It's climate change, Member Champion. I've never.
453 01:00:41.180 --> 01:00:41.930 Katie Clubb: Oh!
454 01:00:41.930 --> 01:00:43.339 Mervyn Head: In my life before.
455 01:00:44.380 --> 01:00:48.949 Mervyn Head: And basically what I what I'm doing, I go out
456 01:00:49.070 --> 01:00:54.190 Mervyn Head: the parish councils and I do a presentation on climate action
457 01:00:54.410 --> 01:01:10.570 Mervyn Head: and the way and the way that I approach it is probably slightly different to the way that you were going about at the moment. I do a brief introduction about the earth and and demonstrate as a closed loop system.
458 01:01:10.640 --> 01:01:13.959 Mervyn Head: I take it from a planetary boundaries aspect initially.
459 01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:14.929 Katie Clubb: Yes. Yeah.
460 01:01:14.930 --> 01:01:20.170 Mervyn Head: And because climate change is just one aspect of what's going on to explain that
461 01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:21.540 Mervyn Head: then
462 01:01:21.600 --> 01:01:27.589 Mervyn Head: just a short section on carbon, footprint and carbon literacy, and to illustrate carbon literacy, I have a
463 01:01:28.080 --> 01:01:31.789 Mervyn Head: a slide that comes up with a packet of digestive biscuits.
464 01:01:31.790 --> 01:01:32.490 Katie Clubb: Who.
465 01:01:32.490 --> 01:01:39.110 Mervyn Head: And I asked them, I asked the the people at the meeting, the the counters, what has most
466 01:01:39.250 --> 01:01:49.750 Mervyn Head: impact on our environment? This packet this packet of biscuits when it comes to the plastic wrapper or transport whatever. And then I mentioned
467 01:01:50.300 --> 01:01:51.300 Mervyn Head: palm oil.
468 01:01:51.680 --> 01:01:52.370 Katie Clubb: Oh!
469 01:01:52.370 --> 01:01:53.609 Mervyn Head: I'm very, very passionate.
470 01:01:53.610 --> 01:01:54.370 Katie Clubb: Oh!
471 01:01:54.370 --> 01:01:55.729 Mervyn Head: The environment which tends to get.
472 01:01:57.130 --> 01:01:59.460 Mervyn Head: And then the the
473 01:01:59.600 --> 01:02:11.189 Mervyn Head: presentation goes on. This is an initial presentation, and this is based on a session we had on the Banter sessions back in, I think, January community projects and involvement.
474 01:02:11.350 --> 01:02:12.040 Katie Clubb: Yeah.
475 01:02:12.411 --> 01:02:19.460 Mervyn Head: And the way that I'm approaching it is, take the easy wins. First.st I'm looking to save people. Money
476 01:02:19.940 --> 01:02:28.959 Mervyn Head: make their lives better, their environment. Better improve health and well being. I've teamed up with a colleague of mine on the Lincolnshire Wildlife Trust
477 01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:30.190 Katie Clubb: Greetings.
478 01:02:30.190 --> 01:02:33.629 Mervyn Head: Can go into rewilding projects and stuff like that.
479 01:02:33.630 --> 01:02:34.560 Katie Clubb: Amazing.
480 01:02:34.560 --> 01:02:42.699 Mervyn Head: So the way that I'm doing it is slightly different, and I have one parish council where the chairman is a total climate denier.
481 01:02:42.940 --> 01:02:44.110 Katie Clubb: Really.
482 01:02:44.110 --> 01:02:47.290 Mervyn Head: But she's very interested in starting up a refill project.
483 01:02:47.650 --> 01:02:48.860 Katie Clubb: Okay. Yeah.
484 01:02:49.040 --> 01:02:55.509 Mervyn Head: Because there are community benefits. So we're tackling a slightly different way. As I say, I would like to keep in contact with you.
485 01:02:55.510 --> 01:02:56.000 Katie Clubb: Yeah, definitely.
486 01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:58.230 Mervyn Head: Share ideas and see how you do.
487 01:02:58.230 --> 01:02:58.550 Katie Clubb: Probably.
488 01:02:58.550 --> 01:03:00.109 Mervyn Head: Works, works in it.
489 01:03:00.110 --> 01:03:21.913 Katie Clubb: I mean. As I say, it's really early days for me. I'm 2 months into the role. So I've only just kind of got my head around the role and and all the different stakeholders and everything. So this is very much in a state of kind of flux. This is just I've trying to shed my thoughts and resources that I thought would be beneficial to other people as it is now. But I'm yeah, constantly learning constantly.
490 01:03:22.290 --> 01:03:30.589 Katie Clubb: yeah, trying to just soak up as a sponge as much knowledge as possible. So I'd be more than happy to. Yeah.
491 01:03:30.590 --> 01:03:36.880 Mervyn Head: That's that's absolutely great. And I can share information here because I work very closely with our climate manager, our climate team.
492 01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:37.600 Katie Clubb: Fabulous.
493 01:03:37.600 --> 01:03:41.009 Mervyn Head: And I also, I've also presented to elected members because
494 01:03:41.050 --> 01:03:47.880 Mervyn Head: I'm pushing elected members to go out and spread the word to the councils to get me in front of their Parish council and doing it that way.
495 01:03:48.190 --> 01:03:48.790 Katie Clubb: Fabulous.
496 01:03:48.790 --> 01:03:51.000 Mervyn Head: If we can share emails, or whatever.
497 01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:54.039 Katie Clubb: Yeah, yeah, I'll put my email in the the chat as well.
498 01:03:54.040 --> 01:03:59.450 Mervyn Head: Brilliant. Thank you. Thank you very much for your talk, and I'm looking forward to going through your resources.
499 01:03:59.978 --> 01:04:02.619 Katie Clubb: Thank you, Mervyn. Appreciate it.
500 01:04:04.180 --> 01:04:06.199 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Mike, the floor is all yours again.
501 01:04:09.357 --> 01:04:09.825 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: hi!
502 01:04:12.460 --> 01:04:13.890 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: What time! What type?
503 01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:18.069 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Where have you gone, Kate? Oh, there you are! I'm sorry.
504 01:04:19.333 --> 01:04:23.936 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: We've taken a slightly different approach in hay in in that
505 01:04:24.460 --> 01:04:29.480 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: The mention of climate is is sort of intrinsic. It's not extrinsic.
506 01:04:29.650 --> 01:04:32.616 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: And we started off by
507 01:04:33.260 --> 01:04:37.459 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: a sort of banner headline, hey, community resilience, initiative. We need you.
508 01:04:37.590 --> 01:04:43.260 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: And it's happening on it. And then food, energy, mental health, health, resilience for hay
509 01:04:43.340 --> 01:04:44.460 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: that will
510 01:04:44.500 --> 01:04:46.670 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: 39 people in
511 01:04:46.730 --> 01:04:48.230 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: which kicked the thing off.
512 01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:51.980 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: And then we ran a community assembly
513 01:04:52.150 --> 01:05:09.559 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: and the banner there was. Let's grow our own food. Hey? Food, resilience, self sufficiency for hey, come and design our future. And the one that we're doing in January is, let's grow our own. Let's generate our own energy, hey, energy, resilience, self sufficiency.
514 01:05:09.560 --> 01:05:10.150 Katie Clubb: Yeah.
515 01:05:10.150 --> 01:05:13.930 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Come and design our future, and in our assemblies
516 01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:16.200 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: we we actually van.
517 01:05:17.060 --> 01:05:18.680 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Yes, but
518 01:05:19.456 --> 01:05:22.440 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: no one is allowed to say yes, but
519 01:05:23.110 --> 01:05:24.005 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: anything.
520 01:05:25.371 --> 01:05:28.986 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: What? What we do is we teach them active
521 01:05:29.830 --> 01:05:33.580 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: active listening where you actually listen to somebody.
522 01:05:33.640 --> 01:05:36.329 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: and you don't interrupt them, and you don't.
523 01:05:36.330 --> 01:05:37.010 Katie Clubb: Yeah.
524 01:05:37.010 --> 01:05:49.170 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: While you're listening to them, of what your response is going to be. You just hear them so that they feel valued and heard, and everybody in facilitative assembly gets the same opportunity to speak.
525 01:05:49.290 --> 01:05:52.350 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: and then the note takers take down the opinions
526 01:05:52.360 --> 01:06:09.630 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: which are stuck on on one side of the sheet, and the actions which are stuck on the other side of the tiny little post-it notes, and thereby we collect all of the information that we need in order to find out how much energy there is in the community for that particular aspect of what we're doing.
527 01:06:10.690 --> 01:06:13.820 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: And the 3rd pillar we're launching in May.
528 01:06:13.890 --> 01:06:16.290 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: That's the mental well-being pillar.
529 01:06:16.560 --> 01:06:21.559 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: And and the question is always, how can we support pay on y 2,
530 01:06:21.660 --> 01:06:23.599 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: and then, whatever it is that we're doing.
531 01:06:23.660 --> 01:06:26.160 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Yeah.
532 01:06:26.160 --> 01:06:26.840 Katie Clubb: Yeah.
533 01:06:26.840 --> 01:06:29.649 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: And that way you only track people who want to do it.
534 01:06:29.970 --> 01:06:30.630 Katie Clubb: Yeah.
535 01:06:30.630 --> 01:06:34.401 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Interesting, so I'm not in the business of trying to convert anybody
536 01:06:35.030 --> 01:06:35.770 Katie Clubb: Yeah.
537 01:06:35.770 --> 01:06:41.479 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: There's too much hard work. I'd much rather find the people that that want to do it and then work with them.
538 01:06:41.490 --> 01:06:47.630 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: And on the 4th one we've we've got over. We now know that we've got over 10% of our community behind us.
539 01:06:47.940 --> 01:06:49.240 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: and.
540 01:06:49.240 --> 01:06:49.930 Katie Clubb: Brilliant.
541 01:06:49.930 --> 01:06:51.249 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: 100 and 9 people
542 01:06:51.260 --> 01:06:53.839 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: turned up for the 1st assembly so, and we could.
543 01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:57.170 Katie Clubb: Amazing! How many, how many turned up! Sorry!
544 01:06:57.170 --> 01:06:58.290 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: 100 and 9.
545 01:06:58.290 --> 01:07:00.740 Katie Clubb: 109. That's fabulous.
546 01:07:00.740 --> 01:07:01.630 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Prices, here.
547 01:07:02.340 --> 01:07:03.070 Katie Clubb: Wow!
548 01:07:03.070 --> 01:07:15.879 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Simply by selling it in a different way. It was something around which they understood what it meant, and of course you have to adapt that for your own community, because not all communities are the same as ours.
549 01:07:16.140 --> 01:07:16.585 Katie Clubb: Yeah.
550 01:07:17.459 --> 01:07:29.489 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: And and it worked. And now we've got the Welsh Government behind this and the future generations Commissioner and his office behind us, and they hopefully.
551 01:07:29.490 --> 01:07:30.520 Katie Clubb: Money.
552 01:07:30.910 --> 01:07:46.720 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Able to hire somebody for 3 days a week, and I've just and take next to assemblies and I think they they want me to go around to communities in Wales and explain to them what we did and how we did it, and so on and so forth.
553 01:07:46.720 --> 01:07:48.160 Katie Clubb: That's fantastic.
554 01:07:48.410 --> 01:07:49.979 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: So- so it's a.
555 01:07:50.370 --> 01:07:54.809 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: you know. I think we've all come up with ideas based upon where we are.
556 01:07:54.830 --> 01:07:59.969 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: because we can do is do what we can where we are, with what we've got.
557 01:08:00.590 --> 01:08:06.030 Katie Clubb: Yeah, amazing. Thank you. So much for sharing that that sounds yeah, really, amazing.
558 01:08:06.030 --> 01:08:07.260 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Keep in touch. So I'm.
559 01:08:07.260 --> 01:08:11.588 Katie Clubb: Yeah, absolutely. I've I've just posted my email.
560 01:08:12.390 --> 01:08:16.470 Katie Clubb: yeah, along with some of the links. And then I'll try and put them together in a bit more of a
561 01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:21.869 Katie Clubb: yeah presentation style. With some of the notes that
562 01:08:22.520 --> 01:08:28.696 Katie Clubb: I made to to prepare for this. So thank you so much for yeah. All that
563 01:08:29.270 --> 01:08:53.680 Katie Clubb: collaboration at the end. There, I'm gonna have to jump off because I've got to go straight into another meeting. But I've really enjoyed yeah, coming to my 1st banter event, and also being the 1st being presenting so yeah, thank you so much for listening to me ramble. I hope there's been some of that that's been useful. And yeah, really, looking forward to staying in touch, I feel like.
564 01:08:53.779 --> 01:08:58.859 Katie Clubb: together, we can all make yeah, such a bigger impact when we work together. So
565 01:08:58.930 --> 01:09:08.030 Katie Clubb: yeah, thank you so much. I'm gonna have to drop off now. But really appreciate yeah, having the the floor today. So thanks a lot.
566 01:09:08.200 --> 01:09:10.800 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You're going to become a regular feature. Bad luck.
567 01:09:11.060 --> 01:09:12.099 Katie Clubb: Ha! Ha! Ha!
568 01:09:12.801 --> 01:09:16.469 Katie Clubb: Fabulous! Thank you so much. Bye.
569 01:09:16.649 --> 01:09:18.119 Mervyn Head: Thank you. Katie.
570 01:09:18.390 --> 01:09:19.979 Katie Clubb: Thanks, bye, bye.
571 01:09:20.350 --> 01:09:46.659 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So for everyone else. Let me just announce that next week we have what I think should be also a very fascinating conversation that's going to be of interest to many, many people, which is a discussion of biodiversity net gain from defra. So hopefully, they're going to define what they mean, how you measure it, how you measure the change, and what on earth we can do to meet our compliance obligations. So
572 01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:48.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I commend that to everybody
573 01:09:49.558 --> 01:09:56.519 Graham Stoddart-Stones: please, and if there is anyone who wants to raise any more questions or discussions, now is your fleeting moment.
574 01:09:57.127 --> 01:10:03.810 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: I was just going to say we'll keep in touch with Katie as well, but also with Mike and
575 01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:13.269 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Mervyn, because we have a draft page on our emerging great collaboration website. In other words, in work, in development about communication.
576 01:10:13.280 --> 01:10:31.670 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: And I think we do need to gather as much ideas and approaches and support for people who are having to address this, because communication is the big thing at the moment, and I will get back to county, as I also live in Forest City and catch up with her about how many of the 40 Parish Councils actually turned up at that meeting. But I'll talk that about with her later. Okay.
577 01:10:31.670 --> 01:10:42.500 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I was hugely impressed with the Forest Dean that A worked out that they needed somebody to do the communication, and then hired her. Because I think she's going to be a marvelous.
578 01:10:42.500 --> 01:10:48.759 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: That was, that was, that was fueled by the success in raising 250,000 pounds from a charity
579 01:10:49.070 --> 01:10:49.650 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: oh!
580 01:10:50.010 --> 01:10:55.831 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: Which sadly, is not repeatable, because the charity question are not open to further bids.
581 01:10:56.220 --> 01:10:59.289 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Stuart, your hand raised. Please.
582 01:10:59.290 --> 01:11:03.760 Stuart Withington: Yeah, sorry I I apologize for being late, and I look forward to
583 01:11:04.642 --> 01:11:09.110 Stuart Withington: going through the recording it sounded like a very useful session.
584 01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:15.180 Stuart Withington: I'd just like to tell Jules that the posters and flyers have arrived.
585 01:11:15.280 --> 01:11:17.770 Stuart Withington: and they are being distributed.
586 01:11:18.510 --> 01:11:19.910 Joolz Thompson: Right, yeah.
587 01:11:19.910 --> 01:11:20.355 Stuart Withington: Thanks.
588 01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:22.559 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Great Demo to the fore.
589 01:11:22.930 --> 01:11:30.759 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: And if I could bust but in you will send us all of these details. Graham, won't you? So that we can get in touch with Katie.
590 01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:40.420 Graham Stoddart-Stones: You'd be amazed, Mike, I'm already halfway through my email to her, saying, I suggest you create a presentation with the following items included and.
591 01:11:40.420 --> 01:11:40.949 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: I don't know.
592 01:11:40.950 --> 01:11:43.479 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Through a long list. But yes, thank.
593 01:11:43.480 --> 01:11:44.190 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: As you always.
594 01:11:44.190 --> 01:11:45.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We'll follow up.
595 01:11:46.120 --> 01:11:46.380 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Okay.
596 01:11:46.380 --> 01:11:47.869 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I know she will follow up.
597 01:11:48.250 --> 01:11:49.680 Mike E - Hay Community Resilience: Thank you very much. Bye.
598 01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:51.329 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Jennifer, you got your hand up.
599 01:11:51.330 --> 01:12:14.170 Jennifer Lanham: Yes, I was just going to put in a quick plug for the voices of the River Webinar Series on the 19th of November. We have award winning author, presenter, and campaigner, Mary Caldwell. And she's going to be speaking about hope in a time of crisis, looking at biodiversity, loss in relation to education and action.
600 01:12:14.570 --> 01:12:15.299 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Please, please.
601 01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:20.780 Graham Stoddart-Stones: if you slip the link to that in the chat that would be really useful. Jennifer, please.
602 01:12:20.950 --> 01:12:45.129 Jennifer Lanham: Yeah. So I'll it. Basically, I think you need to go on to our social media, which is at Ecp underscore, even load up. But that's in there and because every podcast or sorry, every webinar we do has a different link. So I don't think I've got. I can't share an actual photo of the social media drop, unfortunately. But
603 01:12:45.560 --> 01:12:46.450 Jennifer Lanham: no.
604 01:12:46.450 --> 01:12:49.109 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Link in there. Then we'll all pick it up from there. But
605 01:12:49.170 --> 01:12:51.039 Graham Stoddart-Stones: it sounds like a great idea.
606 01:12:51.360 --> 01:12:57.089 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Are you? Are you making more movies about the state of the even load, because I really enjoyed the 1st one.
607 01:12:57.694 --> 01:13:24.640 Jennifer Lanham: We haven't made any more movies. But the Webinar series is basically bringing in. You know, top presenters. We've also got one following on from the kind of talking about contaminants, stormwater shepherds is going to be coming on in hopefully. January of 2025 to talk about all of the road runoff contaminants. So yeah, there's loads we're doing twice twice a month. We've got presentations coming on. So.
608 01:13:24.930 --> 01:13:32.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, I know I agreed to share with you and to support your neural network. But now you're stealing all the topics I wanted to talk about.
609 01:13:33.401 --> 01:13:37.619 Jennifer Lanham: We can share them. We we're stronger together. Graham definitely.
610 01:13:37.620 --> 01:13:48.770 Graham Stoddart-Stones: There you go. Okay, let me just say hello to any new faces or people I haven't had a chance to exchange words with yet so far so Helen, down in Corf Castle nice to see you
611 01:13:49.180 --> 01:13:52.840 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and Jane. I don't know where Jane is, Tracy, Eric.
612 01:13:52.840 --> 01:13:53.890 Andrew Maliphant, The Great Collaboration: 1st of Dean.
613 01:13:54.240 --> 01:13:57.019 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, right. Okay, yes, of course she is right.
614 01:13:57.220 --> 01:14:07.279 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and it's clearly lunchtime. So time for me to say goodbye to everybody. Thank you so much for coming. I do hope that you enjoyed it, and we look forward to seeing you next time.
615 01:14:07.310 --> 01:14:08.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Take care.
616 01:14:08.400 --> 01:14:09.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones: thanks, Greg.
617 01:14:09.430 --> 01:14:11.349 Mervyn Head: Bye, bye, Graham, thanks very much.
618 01:14:11.350 --> 01:14:12.669 Tracey McMahon: Thank you. Bye-bye.
