# Banter 77:   09Jul25 Using the GC Knowledgebase

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44:15 - 50:09 (end) More feedback and Q & A

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### Presentation:

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### Meeting Summary:

### Quick recap

The meeting began with technical difficulties and casual conversation about recent events before transitioning to a discussion about the Great Collaboration's knowledge base system and its functionality. Graham presented a new knowledge base structure with improved search capabilities and demonstrated its features, while participants suggested various additions and improvements to the system's content and organization. The group concluded by discussing the launch of a collaborative document and future plans for allowing contributions, including potential integration of feedback systems and upcoming discussions about climate action.

### Next steps

* Amanda to contact Cotswold National Landscape and Royal Agricultural University to arrange an expert speaker on farm clusters for a future session.
* Graham to implement a voting system for pages in the knowledge base.
* Graham to add a glossary for common abbreviations to the knowledge base.
* Allan to provide a reference for Nature-based Solutions (NBS) abbreviation.
* Amanda to signpost Cotswold National Landscape's input on the A417/A419 road planning process for the knowledge base.
* Graham to explore implementing a system for users to add non-published content to Git Book for review.
* Graham to consider phased rollout of knowledge base access to avoid being overwhelmed with feedback.
* Amanda to share the knowledge base link with Gloucestershire Association of Parish and Town Councils.
* Graham to add more content to the Agriculture section of the taxonomy.
* Graham to implement geographical search functionality with maps for the knowledge base.

### Summary

#### Knowledge Base Platform Overview

Graham explained the purpose and structure of the knowledge base, emphasizing its role in providing efficient access to best practices and data for councils. He highlighted the use of GitBook as the underlying platform due to its up-to-date content, AI-enhanced search engine, and cost-effectiveness. Graham also addressed current limitations, such as duplicate search results, and mentioned ongoing efforts to improve the system. He encouraged participants to contribute feedback and content to enhance the knowledge base.

#### New Knowledge Base System Overview

Graham presented a new knowledge base system with a reorganized taxonomy and menu structure, which is currently a work in progress. He explained that the system allows users to search through documents, links, and templates, with search results ranked based on title, description, and keywords. Graham demonstrated how to use the search engine effectively and showed various options for viewing and interacting with found documents, including downloading, copying text, and exporting to PDF. He noted that while the taxonomy is organized alphabetically, the spreadsheet version remains unordered, creating a contrast between structured and unstructured approaches.

#### Knowledge Base System Development

Graham introduced a new knowledge base system and invited participants to explore it, noting that it was still a work in progress. Garry suggested adding sections on waste water, climate literacy, environment, nature offsets, and funding. Stuart highlighted the need for information on regenerative farming and agriculture. Amanda offered to help connect the group with farming clusters and experts for potential sessions. The group discussed the importance of estate management in new housing developments, with Amanda suggesting a session on this topic. Graham mentioned there was already a planning section in the taxonomy, and Amanda agreed to find the best place for the estate management information.

#### Knowledge Management System Improvements

The group discussed improvements to the knowledge management system, with David explaining that the interface successfully retrieves points from banter sessions and generates summaries based on git book sources. David suggested organizing topics into a proper hierarchy by a librarian and noted the need for relationships between topics and articles, potentially using semantic media wiki. Andrew Maliphant acknowledged his role in the current taxonomy and agreed it could be improved, particularly regarding synonyms.

#### Improving Knowledge Base Quality

The group discussed the Great Collaboration's knowledge base, with Andrew Clegg seeking examples for writing preservation letters and Graham highlighting the need to refine solutions into best practices for specific locations. Tristram raised concerns about the quality of information in the banter sessions, while Amanda suggested implementing a filtering system similar to NICE's healthcare recommendations. Graham acknowledged these concerns and mentioned plans to introduce voting and review systems to ensure the quality of contributions.

#### Knowledge Base and Website Updates

The group discussed the structure and functionality of their knowledge base and website, with David explaining that greatcollaboration.uk is the primary site for verified information while the knowledge base serves as a backup for detailed topics. Graham confirmed that geographical search functionality with mapping is already being implemented in partnership with Parish Online, though it's currently limited to one topic. The team also discussed adding a glossary of common abbreviations, with Alan offering to provide reference materials, and Amanda shared information about the Cotswold National Landscape and its connection to the A417 road project.

#### Collaborative Document Launch Discussion

The meeting focused on the launch and sharing of a collaborative system, with Graham inviting contributions via email and confirming it is currently in read-only mode. Amanda suggested sharing it with Gloucestershire Association of Parish and Town Councils, which Graham supported, though Allan advised a phased approach to avoid overwhelming feedback. The group discussed future plans for allowing contributions, with David suggesting a Git-based approach and Andrew mentioning a potential Hylo forum option, while Graham noted they are exploring various integration options for feedback systems. The conversation ended with an announcement about an upcoming discussion with Climate Emergency UK regarding local government climate action.

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### Chat:

00:11:08 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Good morning,Leo, I seem to have no sound with you….&#x20;

00:32:48 Amanda Davis: @Leo Williams you are in twice. this is why the audio loop happening&#x20;

00:33:38 Leo Williams: Speaker and mic on laptop were not working but phone not ideal for reading slides&#x20;

00:33:49 Amanda Davis: Reacted to "Speaker and mic on l..." with 👍🏽&#x20;

00:39:25 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Link to the Great Collaboration Knowledgebase:   [https://wiki.greatcollaboration.uk/knowledgebase/ ](https://wiki.greatcollaboration.uk/knowledgebase/)

00:43:19 David newman (Blackbird Leys): Simply ask Colin Tudge&#x20;

00:44:48 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Colin Tudge's Great Re-Think&#x20;

00:48:15 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: We're currently researching speakers on biodiversity audits and EV charging points&#x20;

00:52:42 David newman (Blackbird Leys): A question I forgot to ask. How can we edit gitbook? (asked a a git user).&#x20;

00:55:04 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: I know Mark Gale who was the moving person behind the Gloucester service station - it took him some years but a great result&#x20;

00:58:58 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Some guidance on plans should be available from local resilience forums Local resilience forums: contact details - GOV.UK&#x20;

01:02:51 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: The proposed Welcome Break lorry park development in Gloucestershire—specifically near Cirencester—has been under scrutiny due to concerns about its impact on the local landscape and community. Here’s what’s surfaced recently: 🚛 Project Overview

* The plan involves a 75-space truck stop near the A417 in Stratton, Gloucestershire
* It was rejected by the local council in March 2024 due to concerns over landscape harm and incongruity with the surroundings 01:02:56 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: The website link at present is to flood data Flooding Data - The Great Collaboration 01:05:41 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Replying to "The proposed Welcome..."

Allan - A bit more on this would be very helpful. Can you letme have your email address or a link where I can find details&#x20;

01:07:47 David newman (Blackbird Leys): Need a link to greatcollaboration.uk from the knowledgebase home page. (It's there:  see under "How Can I get involved")

01:07:50 Amanda Davis: Lorry park appeal input from 2 planners at CNL Cotswolds National Landscape. John Mills is also the planning advisor for the National Association of national landscapes, as well as being our chief planner&#x20;

01:08:45 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Replying to "Need a link to gre..."

Agreed

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: All right. Well, now, now that Amanda's here, we can get started. So let's do that

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: so hopefully. Are you? Now all seeing my screen.

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tristram cary: Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: And today we are going to talk about the knowledge base. And I'm going to give you the background as to why we're getting a knowledge base and why we're using gitbook.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: how the knowledge base is built.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: how can you can use it? And then, perhaps most importantly, I'd like you all to have a go

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: and then give feedback and make future contributions by the score. So this is one of those places where don't let your inhibitions worry you. Just go ahead and plunge in, please.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: So

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Since our aim is to make life much easier and more efficient and quicker for councils and everybody to find the data they need. We're going to put it into a knowledge base.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: And the knowledge base consists mainly of pointing people to the examples we found of best practice. So the chances are that somebody out there has already done what you guys are looking to do, and the chances are that somebody somewhere has refined the

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: the way of getting there. So we're going to try and find best practice and point people towards them. We don't actually load the documents themselves onto the knowledge base, except when it's seen as advantageous to getting the search engine inside the knowledge base

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: to.

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Andrew Maliphant: Read all the documents.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: So. And as we suggested before, we're hoping to get people to where they want to be within 3 clicks, we're not there yet, but I'm sure it's not that far away.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: So we've chosen gigbook as the underlying structure, because it is pretty up to date. It's 1 of those things that's put together by enthusiasts rather than a company, and therefore people all over the world are making their contributions and thereby keeping it very much up to date.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: It's got AI built into it which really helps the search engine

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: because it's looked after by enthusiasts. There's almost nothing for us to do except enter the data.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: It's a familiar, familiar interface which I hope you'll all recognize, and possibly its greatest argument

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: which is very helpful to us in our current state of finances. It's not perfect, and certainly getting information into it is not yet as as simple as it could be, but I think there's lots of

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: improvements being made as we go along. As we said, you may find that when you're doing your own searches there's a snag at the moment in git book that it is tending to come up with double entries for everything, so you may see everything twice.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Fret not. We've put in a request that they fix that.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: And certainly we're not the only people to have come across that. But that's just one of the drawbacks.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: So

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: because of modern search engines. You could argue. There's absolutely no need to have any structure. You can just throw all the documents into the system and let the search engine sort it out.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: but that doesn't really help. You find all the related documents that may come up through the menu system.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: It doesn't give us any structure that lets us know what we've got and what we haven't got.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: And so we need to have a structure.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: And

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: finally, there are some users out there who have always used a structural system, and therefore they prefer to work that way. So we're hopefully providing systems for both those who like to just throw a search engine in at the job, or those who like to go and look for their stuff through a logical system.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Infusing you all to the word taxonomy, because we've created a taxonomy which is really our guiding principle for structuring the whole database. So

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Andrew Maliphant: How did you get.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: No, I thought it was going to mute everyone.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: We can do that.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Okay?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: So we have created a spreadsheet which you're going to see in a second, which lists all the topics under which we think people are going to be very interested. It's a work in progress. So when you see it, don't think this is it rigidly built in stone. I'm really hopeful that we'll get suggestions from you guys on what updates are needed.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: We've built the menu system to match the taxonomy, and you'll see that in a moment. And hopefully they're all tied together to give everybody. On speed.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: So this is the 1st 2 slides.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: whereas the menu structure in the

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Wiki knowledge base, whatever you want to call it, has been reorganized. So everything's in alphabetical order. So this is a wonderful example of those who like to live in an ordered system, and those who like to live in a completely disorderly one.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: and you can see that those who created the spreadsheet are disorderly.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: and those who run the knowledge base are less so.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: So. This is the 1st item pings are grouped into the areas which we think are going to be more useful to people.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: You'll all find words that will probably

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: be found in other listings for climate change things. So

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: you know, if you're looking for the generation of electricity could be by hydrogen or by wind turbines, they're all under energy, but they're not under separate products of their own.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: So this is page one, page 2 covers these last 3 topics.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: And again, I'm very happy to take people's suggestions that they can be improved. You can look at the latest version of the taxonomy from within the knowledge base when you get there.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: So that's just giving you an idea. What is our guiding light at the moment?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: So here is the knowledge base itself, and you're all gonna be getting your chance to play with this, but I'm just giving you the overall view of how the 1st page will look.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: and on the left is the menu system which you can see is mostly consistent of

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: the taxonomy itself, but now ordered in alphabetical order.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Couple of items near the bottom adaptation, mitigation are previous entries into the system which have yet to be brought in line with the rest of the taxonomy. And then that tells you there's a link to the taxonomy spreadsheet itself down the bottom there.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: So the vast majority of the knowledge base are the documents, the links, the templates, the guides, and everything that people are going to contribute, I hope.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: and then down the bottom, under events, you'll be aware that we have a weekly banter session, and have been doing so for the last couple of years. So there's some 70 odd items there that you can will be searched. When you do a search it will go through the events section as well as the taxonomy.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: And so you will find a lot of the stuff that's coming up at the moment is because the the biggest contribution to the database to date has been the events the the Atlanta sessions.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: So you'll note that this is the overall view.

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Leo Williams: This is the.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Send me. Oh, let me just put

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: okay. Just put Leo on mute, because we're getting feedback, but otherwise happy to see you with much bigger picture.

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Leo Williams: Gotcha gotcha.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: There's a lot of echo on you Leo. So we've put you. I've put you on mute.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: alright moving on. Then this is the overall picture of what it looks like. Note at the top that there is a search engine button

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: And now we're going to go through. How you use that. So the fastest way of finding, if we have anything in the knowledge base is through search, and I'm expecting that most people will use this route.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: As again the most efficient way of doing things, and desperate to get you down to your 3 clicks to find something

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: so

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: just click anywhere in the search box to bring it up, and up it comes with a screen of previous searches. If you've made them. If you haven't, then you'll just get the top line, the search content. And you can start typing whatever you want into that

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: top line up here.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Which is what I'm saying. Here.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Note that there are 2 lines. When the system start, come comes up. You get an option to go out onto the Internet. So the green line is searching the Internet. The top line is searching the knowledge base itself.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: And I've typed in the word retrofit. And you can see that the word retrofit has been found, but it comes under energy efficiency, which is sort of what you'd expect

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: of.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Here is a major caveat. Alright. So when you're typing in the search, word or phrase that you're seeking don't follow it with an enter

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: button.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Search engine starts working just as soon as you type the 1st letter.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: and when you finished it's busy searching away. If you type, enter, you kill the whole thing. So you do get a symbol. That's sort of the lines on that icon are circulating around as the system is working to let you know that it's not gone dead.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: and then when it finishes that, it comes up with a list very much a la Google.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: and then again, very much a la Google. If you want to read any of the documents just click on the title

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: But to get an idea of which documents you may want to read, there is a short summary underneath the title.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: please note. This is a scrollable list. You can go all the way down because it may find 20 or more articles under your topic.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: so the search engine ranks its finds, according to what we've put in the title, the description and the keywords. We're trying to put the keywords into the description in the knowledge base which is the 1st paragraph that you enter after the title. I mean, this is not of interest to you particularly, except in case you're worried about how it finds the documents it's found, and put them in the orders. It's put them

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: so the closer that the words in the title and the description and the keywords match your search type. Item.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: the closer the document will be hopefully to the one that you want.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: So

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: the next step onto that, then, is the more detail you put into the search term, the more limited the output will be, but it ought to be much better suited to your wishes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: However, you will remember that if you put as a very specific term in searching, then, if

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: the system is, use a word that's different from yours, you'll miss it. So there's a nice balance between

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: searching on just one word or one phrase, or one item or one that's very specific. You you're gonna have to work out which works best for you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: And then again, a reminder just to see what

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: you want to see you click on the title, and it brings up something like the left hand side of this screen.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: once you've got it here, there are several things that you can do with it, you can, just if there's a video as there is here, for instance, you can click on the start button and it'll start up and roll away. You can download anything from this page, or you can simply cut and paste any words that you find are particularly interesting to your case.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: There is, as I said before, those who prefer to go via a menu. That's it works exactly the way you'd expect it to each menu item probably has sub pages underneath, and you just click through the ones you want, and again they will be in the same order as the taxonomy or lists.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: on what ought to be there. But isn't

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: and then we'll come back together for the next part of today's session.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Thank you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Can I do talk? Oh, yes, of course I can. Sorry. That's a very good idea. Thank you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: I think you stunned them. Gary, yeah.

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Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Yeah. Well, well done, my friend, on all the work that's gone into it, and as everybody can see, a lot of work's gone into it, and a lot of work in progress, and it can only get more and more better with everybody's help.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Precisely. Thank you.

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Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Or more betterer, as we used to say in primary school, yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: By all means, when you're happy with what you've done, then indicate by either raising your hand on the screen or putting a note in the chat, or you're ready to move on. I'm very happy for people to take their time.

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Graham, do you want us to feedback on the

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: menu on the left hand side? The welcome underneath the welcome.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Absolute. Oh, no! Well, you mean comments on that bit absolutely. Yes, please.

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Potentially. Also, climate literacy, I think, is a big one. Personally, I find that a bigger.

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: a big resource, that I'm always looking, trying to find latest information on so climate literacy would would might be a good

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: also. Maybe environment nature offsets, and another biggie funding might be another good one.

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Can get. If you can have us a section on where to go for funding, I think you'll get a lot of

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: And hopefully, you've started the ball rolling on, other people coming up with things that they thought of.

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Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Bye, Stuart Stuart's got his hand up. Graham.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Agreed Stuart. There is actually a section called Agriculture in the taxonomy, but it's probably one of the ones that I've yet to actually put anything into. This is very early days. So I'm hoping that you guys will feel that you're much more contributing to the growth of the thing rather than

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Cllr Stuart Withington, Great dunmow TC, Essex: I I was wondering. Is is it worth contacting one of these farming clusters, and seeing if they would like to do a session for us?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: I think that is a great idea. Yes, please. I've written that down.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Amanda, we're always happy to have you. What are you doing? On the 23rd of July.

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Amanda Davis: not only as a national landscape, where we cover many farm clusters, but we also have the Royal Agricultural University in Cirencester, and we have many a farm cluster based within Cotswold national landscape and several of our board members are involved with farm clusters, and I wonder whether I could get you an expert instead.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Go ahead and and start sending out your emails, your phone calls and your Whatsapps, because sound like a great idea, and Stuart would be delighted to get such an instant response, so.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Yes, bear with me one intense moment.

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Amanda Davis: My challenge is, can I get you? A. Yes, by this afternoon.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Okay. So I'm looking at the 23rd of July and the 30th July.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Any date after the 6th of August, except the 3rd of September.

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Amanda Davis: That's that's perfect, and I have got a couple of suggestions that my hand was up. But I don't know if I'm the next person.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Go for it, because I'm sure David will give you a space.

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Amanda Davis: you know, the site and not yourselves with your hands up. So, apologies one, that I haven't yet come across, but is a personal favorite of mine, and I'd even be prepared to do a session on this, and that is, when you get new housing developments.

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Amanda Davis: a new housing estate has estates managed. So it comes under the public realm because it's public open space, but it's put out to private management and the problems that can go wrong are huge, and it's the subject to the competition and markets authority. It has its own. All party parliamentary group.

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Amanda Davis: Water Act. The recent Water act's got something to say on that, as has Nelk and Slcc. So you know, I can see why this could be quite an interesting topic, maybe to cover.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Brilliant Amanda. Thank you. I've nearly run out of paper, but

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Amanda Davis: Okay. Well, then, the other one was around, and I don't know whether I've missed it yet, and it could be under sort of society, and that is around citizen science and the whole element of in engaging the public and building things bottom.

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Amanda Davis: Yeah. And in that you could put things like Linda Aspi with her psychology. You know the climate doom and how we manage to avoid that. And then the whole thing about nature recovery strategies from all around the counties. Can we have a place where we can deposit all of them.

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Amanda Davis: not deposit them, but add links to them.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: I knew I was right to be delighted that you're coming, Amanda, today. So thank you.

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Amanda Davis: You mean? I talk a lot. Thank you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Great suggestions. Yes, thank you, Gray. Move on and give David a chance. Please.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Thank you.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): Right.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): First, st I'll talk about the interface, which is actually better than you described

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): one I've put in things, and it has been successfully retrieving points from all the banter sessions

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): and lots of things people mentioned already. If you actually type them in, you'll find a banter session about it.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): Secondly, if you click on the green arrow, it doesn't search the Internet, it searches this git book.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): What the AI does is write a summary at the top based. And then underneath list sources

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): from things we've put in the git book.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): So actually, when you're testing it, I suggest you do a search first, st rather than just look through the taxonomy.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): Okay, next thing, I actually know what a taxonomy is.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): And yes, when we get topics, someone, preferably a librarian.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): should organize them into a proper hierarchy.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): Now, ideally, you also have relationships between topics and articles. But for that you need something like semantic media wiki, which is much more complicated to set up.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): it would be nice if something like that.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Could be helpful. David. Yep, thank you.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): Yeah, I don't know how much that is built into Kit Book. I haven't actually looked at the instructions for that yet.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): and yes, quite a few things people have mentioned are actually in the taxonomy, but under a different title. So we need something about synonyms.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Yeah.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): And that's it, for now, until I have more chance to look at it.

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Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Thanks for that, David. As a past school librarian. I can. I must take part of the blame for the current taxonomy, but I'm sure it can be improved.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Well, I do like the idea of how do you find synonyms? I think that's a very powerful one.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: And because you're right, if you don't use the word that's there, then the system may not find it so. Thank you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Right. I'm open to lots of suggestions from anybody else, please.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: You know what's coming, Andrew. You can't arrive here and not ask any questions. Andrew Clegg from Somerset.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Yeah, you're on. You're on mute, Andrew.

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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: I'm a bit late, because I've been dealing with an application from Welcome Break to to build a

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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: a hundred lorry car Park right in the middle of one of the finest views in Somerset view

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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: and I'm trying to at the moment work out. How do I write the kind of letter I want to write about preserving views or preserving biodiversity or something like that.

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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: and I'm sort of looking for examples. I was thinking the Gloucestershire, for example, the the service station that you have at Gloucester. Now, now, what do I need? I actually have to write

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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: down to to use some of the ideas that you see at the Gloucester Service station? It's just a question of helping people like me, who you know, and what just there are about half a dozen of us in the parish

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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: who have to write these things, and they've got to be at least as good as the professionally written documents that the that the that welcome break has produced.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Right. That's a wonderful idea, and I'll I'll put all of our horde researchers straight onto it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: It's great, Andrew. Thank you.

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tristram cary: Graham. I I need more time to play, but it looks it looks really interesting. But am I right in saying that if you, if you search in the search box, it just refers you to the internal banter sessions. It's not. It's not searching the Internet. Is that right?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: So the Manta Sessions are currently the major part, purely because we've been doing them for longer.

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tristram cary: it's the idea that the great collaboration is sort of vetting that all the data that's available through, say a chat, gpt search that anybody can do.

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tristram cary: And the and it's it's got some.

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tristram cary: You've got an idea that what you're searching in the great collaboration is of a higher quality than a general search of the Internet.

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tristram cary: I guess I'm I'm a bit concerned that the Banter sessions are not. I mean, they're they're very interesting, but they're sometimes quite random. And people, you know they they come, you. You get anybody who volunteers can come and talk about what they've been doing. But there's no there's no sort of filter that says, this is high quality information, and we we recommend this as your as your solution.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: And I've yet to go through all of the Manta Sessions and put all the knowledge that are in the links into the.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: I think it's a constantly refining situation, Tristram, where? Because it's like a wiki, you know, the the more data that we get in, then more people will say, this is much more clicked on than that one, so we'll get rid of the one that isn't ever watched, and we'll go for the one that is.

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tristram cary: I think you need that sort of process because I was thinking, if you're if you're a parish councillor and you wanted to know how to go about writing a resilience plan.

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tristram cary: and I I think you might get a better solution if you search the Internet than if you search the banter sessions.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Yes, because in theory you're not any longer researching the Banter sessions. It's purely that at the moment the largest contribution to the knowledge base is via the Banter Sessions, but I'm sure that will soon disappear under the welter of information that you're going to start passing to me.

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Amanda Davis: Yeah, I'm thinking of. I'm long enough in the tooth to have been around when Nice was set up for the health service.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Yes.

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Amanda Davis: Institute for? Well, I'm not even going to go there. It used to be called clinical excellence, but it's clinical and health something now, anyway, the point here is that obviously, whatever was in Nice's recommendation went through that filter of expertise and absolute gold standard sort of filters

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Amanda Davis: so so that it could be relied upon, and actually the Nhs not fund things unless they met that high standard. So there is that side of it. And then there's the Wiki side of it, and I'm sure each of us, if we're looking at what's in there whilst it's still small enough, we'll pick up things and and kind of act as a filter of

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Amanda Davis: the expertise, you know. Will we get somebody? Will we start to get perhaps people that don't have the same moral compass that we do, starting to put things in because they're climate change deniers or something, and then, of course, that will get picked up, and so it could get corrupted. If we don't have some sort of I don't know

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Amanda Davis: great collaboration kind of frontier champions on the checking it out.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: which is not that high a barrier at the moment. But I suspect that, you know we'll have to start looking to see who are the climate deniers and the people who just set out to spoil things. I agree with you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: I've also made a note from what Tristan was saying. We probably need to introduce a system of voting on a page, so that you people can say, Yes, we think this is the better one rather than that one or whatever. But I've made a note to do that.

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Amanda Davis: To give them stars, you know, like with reviews.

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Amanda Davis: I come off now and come back on, so have a go.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Thank you, David. All yours.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): The knowledge base isn't the 1st place people go. It's actually greatcollaboration.uk, so anything that is verified. And we want to tell the world you get directly on the main site.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): The knowledge base is a backup with more details on particular topics that are too big to just put on the main site.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): so it doesn't have to be the same quality.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): And the next thing after that.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): And this is something you just mentioned about the next slide is the question I forgot to ask. How can we edit? Git book.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Yes. Well, we'll let me get to that when we get to the next slide. Because I'm just making notes on what you're saying.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): The and also the search on that site

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Correct.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: and I'm busy writing, David.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Thank you, Amanda. You're irrepressible.

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Amanda Davis: Well, I'll take that as a compliment. So when Tristram put his hand up, I was absolutely certain he was going to ask the question about whether there was a geographical search with a map and so on, because what I'd like to know is, if I was searching on nature recovery strategies. I'd like to instantly be able to search those around me.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: That's a wonderful point. And yes, it's already been clarified. It's already been agreed with parish online, and we are in the process of putting it into practice. So far we've managed it on one singular topic, which I can't even remember what that one is now. But there is one map on the website which you can go to and do exactly what you're saying, and the intent is to do it for everything.

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Amanda Davis: Fantastic the name we are on it on this journey with you.

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Amanda Davis: Nobody's expecting it to be perfect. Yet you're just showing us an insight, a vision of where we're heading.

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Amanda Davis: The yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: And I love. I love the smile on Tristan's face. You've made him very happy.

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Amanda Davis: Yeah, I noticed, too. Thank you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: so anybody else please got any feedback from what they've done. Alan Wilson has just come up. Hi, Alan!

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Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: I. All it was, is in relation to common abbreviations which has been said so the Climate Change Commission, Ccc.

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Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: so that people could see those nothing more.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: That's a great idea, Alan. Thank you. I'm busy writing.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: What did you say? Nbs was for?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Do you have a reference that you're familiar with, that we could perhaps adopt.

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Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Not off the top of my head, but I'll dig one out, that's for sure.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Thank you.

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Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Just done a Co. Pilot search for Andrew in respect of his

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Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: I can paste it into the response that came through. This is in relation to the 4, 1, 9.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: this has all been very helpful and very rich in information and feedback. Thank you. I'm really grateful. Let me just share my! Oh, Amanda, I knew there'd be always one.

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Amanda Davis: Oh, I I it was Alan who said, 4, 1, 9. He does.

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Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: 4, 1, 7, yeah.

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Amanda Davis: 4, 1, 7, 4, 1, 9. It's both. You're both. You're correct on both cotsword, national landscape. We had a massive input, into that road and its nature impact. And we've got so many supplementary documents about it that could be helpful. So maybe I could just simply signpost to cotsword national landscape. And looking at the input, we put into the inquiry that created the road. The planning process.

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Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: That's where I go.

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Leo Williams: Thank you very much indeed. I need to leave in about 4 min time, but I just wanted to share with you that my learning style leads very strongly towards pragmatist activists.

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Leo Williams: so I can't wait to finish what I've got to do for the rest of the day and have a real good play on this, and I'll then be in a better position to give you some meaningful feedback. But this is my 1st visit to this group, and it was very exciting to hear the different, the different types of intelligence, and the different types of of offerings that this group of people are bringing very exciting. Thank you very much.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: It's very rich, very rewarding, isn't it? I agree.

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Amanda Davis: Absolutely

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Amanda Davis: before Leo disappears. Can I do a quick introduction that, Leo? Leo? Do you mind me outing you on this section.

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Leo Williams: You go ahead, please do so.

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Amanda Davis: Thank you. Leo is working with me. I check Gloucestershire's local government branch of unison.

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Amanda Davis: and next year 2026 is the year of green unison.

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Amanda Davis: and Leo is working with me on on the whole thing about green unison and the Gloucestershire area in particular, from a parish and town Council perspective.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: July.

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Amanda Davis: That's I wanted to get that even before he disappears.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: So.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Well done. Thank you. And what? Yes, let me just go and share my screen and finish this off.

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Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: The Lord loveth a volunteer. Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Yes.

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Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: As one of my bosses used to say constantly.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Think I'm on the wrong screen. Still, let's try that one.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Let's try that one. Let's try that one. So now are we on the have a go yourself, screen.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Good. Let me go down to the next one.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: rather than fight it, I'm going to live with it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: don't just go with this one for the moment, if I can.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: all right. So on the right hand side, all I am saying is that

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: please do send contributions to my email address, which is there, and thank you so very much for all your help. And input this morning it's been very exciting.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: and I'm looking forward to implementing all those changes that you've suggested in the next couple of hours.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: So if no one else has got anything that they wish to contribute. There's always one.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: It's very much shareable. It is published to anyone who happens to have the link. So by all means let people know. At the moment somebody asked the question of how we're going to add contributions themselves. That facility is not yet made up because IA, haven't worked out how to do it, or B how to get the quality control in place.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: But yes, you're welcome to share it. The more people that hear about it and give us feedback hopefully, the better.

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Amanda Davis: so we'll get a lot of joiners, but we won't get a lot of information fed down the pipe yet.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: But we'll see all right, David.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): Yes, the if git book works like git, you should be able to add things

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): that are in a separate branch and not published on the main pages.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: That is correct. Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Oh, I see. You're suggesting we open that up to everybody to put their contributions in.

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): If you 1st of all find the best way of doing that, and then

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David newman (Blackbird Leys): where give us instructions on how to do that?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: That's a nice thought, David. Thank you. Yeah.

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Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: We've got a high, low forum is one option, isn't it, Graham? Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: True, it's still working on what is the most

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: feasible and practical solution for getting people involved, so that we do have a link through Hilo, which is a sort of communication system which allows people to be grouped together and for comments to be shared rather like Facebook, but within a specific conversational group.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: But you can share the screen. You can show people what you're talking about. You can get lots of feedback, and we're trying to sort of eventually work out what is the best way of linking all these systems into one integrated whole. But again, it's an aspiration rather than an actuation so far.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: But thanks, David. I've made a note of your suggestion because you're quite right. There is a facility to put non-published stuff into the git book.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: and I'll try that.

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Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Yeah.

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Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Sounds good.

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Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Yeah. Then, any climate denying stuff can be simply cancelled out

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Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: exactly. Yeah. So that might save a lot of trouble. Yeah, many thanks.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: And there will be some.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Yes, Amanda, fancy you're raising your hand.

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Amanda Davis: Well, I just wanted to comment on your label.

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Amanda Davis: Great collaboration overseas Department.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Oh, yes, absolutely well. I'm a long, long way from the North Island.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Well, there we are. I didn't want the whole session to go without noting it. So congratulations

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: you very much to everybody for your contribution. It's very helpful. I filled all the bits of paper I've got available, and I look forward to putting them into practice. And do please keep the comments coming. Don't take today as the end of it. Take today as the start of it.

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Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Yes, well done, Graham, and behind the scenes Jenny's on the call as well. She's been adding her shoulder to the wheel as well. So great stuff.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Yes, now we've got a just a tip for next week.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: We're going to have climate emergency Uk, talking to us about local government climate action, and I think that will be very, very interesting of how you can get involved with what your local governments are trying to do at the divisional level

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: and climate emergency. Uk are obviously very familiar and expert with this. So I recommend that to everybody, and hope that you all have a wonderful time enjoying the sunshine and lack of wind, says he, as a sailor is most appealing.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration overseas dept: Take care all. Thank you for your time.

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tristram cary: Thank you. I'm all done.

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tristram cary: Thank you. Very good.

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## Presentation Summary

### Great Collaboration Banter sessions

* Great Collaboration Banter sessions
* The GC Knowledgebase
* Wednesday 09Jul25
* By
* Graham Stoddart-Stones

### Agenda

* Agenda
* Background Context
* Gitbook
* Structure of the Knowledgebase (Taxonomy)
* How to use – search, or menus
* Have a go
* Feedback
* Future contributions

### Context

* Context
* The aim of the Great Collaboration is to make it easier and more efficient for councils, communities and individuals to find the information that they need for their environmental and climate change goals
* Rather than reinvent the wheel, we prefer to find “Best Practice” examples on the Internet, and point users to them
* We use a Knowledgebase to help users find these pointers, hopefully within ‘three clicks’

### Gitbook

* Gitbook
* We use Gitbook as the underlying structure of the Knowledgebase, because:
* It is modern, using the latest technology
* It has AI built-in (very good for Searching)
* Very low maintenance


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