# Banter 87:  17Sep25 Local Nature Recovery Strategy

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### Video Timeline (min:sec):

00:00 - 18:00 Presentation by Lynn as Shropshire County Councillor&#x20;

18:00 - 25:00 Presentation by Janet as a Parish Clerk and Board of Middle Marches Community Land Trust&#x20;

25:00 - 50:38(end) Q & A

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### Presentation:

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There are two presentations combined in the above file.  Y ou are welcome to download it; a markdown version of the presentation is at the bottom of this page for the AI Search Engine to analyse.

The latest version of this presentation is here:   [SALC workbook for editable version](https://middlemarchescommunitylandtrust.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/SALC-workbook-editable-6.10.25.pdf)

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### Meeting Summary:

Sep 17, 2025 11:53 AM London ID: 834 5460 8536

**Quick recap**

Lynn and Janet delivered a presentation on the Local Nature Recovery Strategy in Shropshire and Telford, covering its purpose, mapping approach, and stakeholder collaboration. The session concluded with questions about various aspects of the strategy and mapping systems, while participants discussed potential funding sources and practical implementation approaches.

### Next steps

* [Graham to Google how to permanently change names in Zoom meetings and share the information with Andrew.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=qdYCL3DgQZKt51AXUMRRRQ%3D%3D\&stepId=880c6522-93bd-11f0-9e6f-72cead03e2bf)
* [Lynn to find and post the list of responsible authorities for local nature recovery strategies in the chat.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=qdYCL3DgQZKt51AXUMRRRQ%3D%3D\&stepId=880c6cc0-93bd-11f0-9e6f-72cead03e2bf)
* [Graham to share details about parish online mapping systems in the chat for Eluned and others interested.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=qdYCL3DgQZKt51AXUMRRRQ%3D%3D\&stepId=880c70c6-93bd-11f0-9e6f-72cead03e2bf)
* [Lynn to explore the possibility of exporting local nature recovery strategy maps to parish online mapping systems for parish councils to use.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=qdYCL3DgQZKt51AXUMRRRQ%3D%3D\&stepId=880c7440-93bd-11f0-9e6f-72cead03e2bf)
* [Graham to work with Lynn on implementing two-way mapping between local nature recovery strategies and parish council maps.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=qdYCL3DgQZKt51AXUMRRRQ%3D%3D\&stepId=880c779c-93bd-11f0-9e6f-72cead03e2bf)
* [Lynn and Janet to share information about their town and parish council engagement approach with others interested after the meeting.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=qdYCL3DgQZKt51AXUMRRRQ%3D%3D\&stepId=880c7ad0-93bd-11f0-9e6f-72cead03e2bf)
* [Janet to help people put together similar nature recovery programs for town and parish councils if they reach out after the meeting.](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=qdYCL3DgQZKt51AXUMRRRQ%3D%3D\&stepId=880c7e0e-93bd-11f0-9e6f-72cead03e2bf)

### Summary

#### Coordinated Presentation and Zoom Setup

The meeting began with a discussion about presentation slides, where Janet confirmed that Lynne had combined both their talks, with Janet's segment to follow Lynne's. Graham and others discussed how to change their names in the Zoom meeting to indicate their location or role, with Jackie providing helpful advice about changing the surname and location in the Zoom settings. The meeting waited for additional participants to join, with Graham noting that they typically wait for more attendees than are currently logged in. Lynn confirmed she would present first, with Graham offering to assist if needed, and Lynn successfully shared and began her presentation.

#### Shropshire Nature Recovery Strategy

Lynn and Janet presented on the Local Nature Recovery Strategy (LNRS) in Shropshire and Telford, highlighting its purpose, mapping approach, and collaboration with various stakeholders. They discussed the strategy's role in prioritizing nature recovery actions, targeting funds, and providing guidance for landowners. Janet shared initiatives to engage town and parish councils in nature recovery, including conferences and developing bespoke plans. The session covered challenges such as funding for urban tree planting and the need for early reviews of LNRS. Participants asked questions about mapping systems, soil health, and health benefits of nature, with suggestions for funding sources and practical actions.

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### Chat:

00:11:12 David Newman (Blackbird Leys): -->

00:11:39 Lisa Scott: This is very timely, Surrey County Council are running a consultation on their nature recovery plan (closes on the 25th)

00:11:59 David Newman (Blackbird Leys): <}-->

00:15:31 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Cambridgeshire & Peterborough have just completed their LNRS public consultation too.

00:16:19 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: What software do you use for mapping/

00:31:29 David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Question on scope and scale of LNRS. The best sites in a county may not be the best in a district or the best in a parish.

00:36:22 David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Cannot copy from a screen share. Need to put URLs in the chat.<br>

00:38:44 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Janet - can you share your action list?

00:39:39 Jacky Lawrence, Napton on the Hill, Warwickshire: LNRS | WCS LNP

this is Warwickshire's Local Nature Recovery Strategy:   <https://www.wcslnp.co.uk/lnrs>

00:40:57 Jacky Lawrence, Napton on the Hill, Warwickshire: [The Nature Recovery Network - GOV.UK](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nature-recovery-network)

00:41:53 Claire Deruty, Cheshire, Kelsall Parish Council: Graham, can you share the info about Parish Online for those PCs that are not on board yet?<br>

00:41:56 Janet Cobb: Replying to "Janet - can you shar..." yes will be on MMCLT website by Oct 3rd <https://middlemarchescommunitylandtrust.org.uk/><br>

00:42:00 Lisa Scott: Would very much like for our Parish to feed in to your map! (Charlwood, by Gatwick Airport).<br>

00:42:14 Lisa Scott: Reacted to "Graham, can you shar..." with 👍<br>

00:44:24 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Parish online is excellent - but at the moment it is not linked to Somerset Nature recovery - so our little recognised wildlife site is not on it, PO is at <https://www.parish-online.co.uk/>

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00:44:33 Janet Cobb: Soil health films · Kiss the ground\
<https://youtu.be/3iknWWKZOUs>

· Common Ground\
<https://youtu.be/6-M4Hq0MKFA>

· Six inches of soil\
<https://youtu.be/OaJl0yQ7ufQ>

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00:46:25 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: An unexpected place to get in touch with corporate, local authority and government cash for your projects: [https://crowdfunder.co.uk.](https://crowdfunder.co.uk/) Create an account and login for free, and describe your project, and their computers will automatically link you to funders in that area and topic\
00:46:25 Jacky Lawrence, Napton on the Hill, Warwickshire: [Warwickshire-Local-Nature-Action-Plans-guidance-for-town-and-parish-councils-DRAFT-September-2024.pdf](https://www.walc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Warwickshire-Local-Nature-Action-Plans-guidance-for-town-and-parish-councils-DRAFT-September-2024.pdf)\
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00:49:11 Ken Huggins North Dorset: Reacted to "(Sorry, my typing ac..." with 😂<br>

00:50:09 David Newman (Blackbird Leys): There are free trees from the Trees Council, plus the annual garden trees giveaway\
00:50:39 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: [Branching Out Fund - The Tree Council](https://treecouncil.org.uk/grants-and-guidance/our-grants/branching-out-fund/)<br>

00:51:26 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Parish Online mapping: see <https://www.parish-online.co.uk/services/mapping> (scroll all the way down the page). There is a 3 month free trial available. Or an immediate 10% discount. The site tells the cost for your parish (it varies widely based on size, from £30 pa up!)<br>

00:51:31 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: [Free Trees for Schools and Communities - Woodland Trust](https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/plant-trees/schools-and-communities/)<br>

00:52:51 David Newman (Blackbird Leys): There is the Trees Collaborate Network in Oxfordshire.<br>

00:53:13 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: We have never had problems with funding but we have been doing our own planting and management. Everyone seems to want to give away trees, even quite big ones. We have got a lot from National Highways.<br>

01:03:39 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: A great session thank you both

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### Audio Transcript (for AI search engine):

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: So, we've reached the magical 5 minutes, so, of all the 20-plus people that promised to come.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: We appear to have got as many as are going to come today. So, did you say, Charlie, that it's Lynn who's going to start today?

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Yeah, I think I'm gonna stop.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: And you'd like to, run the presentation yourself, Lynn, or do you want me to run it?

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: I can run it. I was thinking you might, but maybe it might be easier.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Yeah, sure, I'll agree.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: I'm doing it, let me open it up.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: But I do have it as a fallback, if you need to.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Right, I've opened it up. So, will I be able to share it?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Oh yes, please do.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: We're a lot happier audience if you're sharing it.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Okay. Where is the… there it is, share. It's been a while since I've used…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Is it, is it a film?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: You have to click two, so there's the green one, and then there's the one that shows you the share you've chosen.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Well done, yup, you there?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Over there, okay. And you need to probably go into slideshow mode.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Right.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: There you go.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Is that what?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Yes, perfect.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Okay, good.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: All yours, Pete.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: All right. Why on earth you're talking to us. So, I'm… I'm just going to introduce, kind of local nature recovery strategies. I am the coordinator for the Shropshire and Telf-Genrikin Local Nature Recovery Strategy,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And, this first slide just shows who's on our steering group, and, I'm going to try and make it a kind of fairly general,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: conversation, because I know that it's not structure until Tarika-focused, but that's obviously my experience. There are similarities, obviously, across the… across the country.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And the fundamental point from this slide is that it is collaborative, it's important that it is a collaborative project.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: I work for Shropshire Council, but I don't feel necessarily that I work for the Council. I feel like I work, for the Nature, Recovery Strategy Steering Group. That's, they're kind of my guide.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And they've been really, really helpful and really supportive, obviously with very different organisational

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: priorities. We've got people like NFU and CLA who are more, kind of, there from a landowner voice perspective, and then the, arm's length government bodies, like Natural England, Forestry Commission, and Environment Agency, and then, kind of, the Wildlife Trust and the National Landscape,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: team, along with the council, so it's a really broad, kind of, cross-sector partnership at the steering group level, but then it's much broader than that, in terms of everybody that's been involved in developing it.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So what are strategies? So the purpose of the local nature recovery strategy is to identify priority nature recovery actions across the whole county, and importantly, also to map them.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So we are one of 48, so whatever area you're in, you will have a local nature recovery strategy at, at some point in its development. A few have already been published.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: But only very few. I think there's kind of six in… across England that have been published so far. A number are out for consultation at the moment, like ours is currently out for consultation.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And I saw someone, put a note in the chat that theirs is out at the moment. Some have, are kind of passed that and are kind of seeking to kind of get adopted.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Importantly, it's got a legislative background to it, so it's the Environment Act 2021,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And DEFRA is the… the kind of organization, that has produced all the guidance, and is the…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: one that we get the grant from, so each organization that's developing it, so here, it says the legislation, it designates the responsible authority, so that is normally the county council type organization in the… in the…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: area, so Shropshire Council is… isn't a county council, but it is, it's that sort of function.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And then, it also designates supporting authorities. So, in this situation, DEFRA appointed Telford Enriquean Council, as a supporting authority, and Natural England in every county is the supporting authority, but it would all… it would generally be the district authorities and borough.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: councils, that would be a supporting authority. And they have to,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: They've got formal roles, so they have to be kind of generally involved throughout its development, but there's a formal process where they've got to say yes before it goes out to consultation, and then again, they've got to say yes before it is, adopted.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So why the need?

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Importantly, we've got to have it, the Environment Act says we've got to have it, so that's the fundamental driving force.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Along with the requirement to produce the Local Nature Recovery Strategy, the Environment Act also set out that all public bodies, including town and parish councils, now have an enhanced duty to maintain and enhance biodiversity.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And some of what Janet's going to talk about in a minute will pick up on that.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: But more broadly, we know we've got these trends, they're not looking good, kind of, generally across the board, especially for, for specialist species. We know we've got fragmented habitats. That's having big impacts,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: We've got faltering ecosystem functions, flooding, drought, soil health, carbon capture. They're all big issues, and if we've got a more resilient

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Habitat, more resilient nature, land, it has all those broader benefits, as well as benefiting nature. It also benefits, all these other services that land.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Needs to provide for us, as well as, you know, kind of everything else that needs to survive in it.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: There are additional benefits, there's more and more evidence, evidence around health and well-being, importance.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: of being out in nature, and what it can provide to us. We've evolved over millennia of being out in nature. We need it, as well as the fundamental air and water it provides.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: But then the kind of economic benefits here in Shropshire, I'm sure, as in many of the, the areas that you represent, there are some amazing, kind of, beautiful natural assets, and…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: You know, the sustainable tourism element from an economic point of view is also an important consideration.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: There is an upswell of interest and activity, kind of driven more recently, well, various different drivers, kind of talks of, kind of, green finance, kind of coming in, but also the agri-environment scheme changes are more from a, a kind of nature.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: lead perspective, the kind of public money for public goods.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And, there's just a general upswell of, of interest and activity, people wanting to take action, so it's, it's timely, as well as being kind of required and needed. It is also, kind of responding to,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: I kind of want, in various, sectors of society.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: A lot of the guidance, if you go on and have a look at it, don't know how interested you are to look at guidance, but it talks very much about bringing stakeholders together.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: That's one of its important, elements in terms of its, its development at the local nature recovery strategy. And the purpose is to align action to the county priorities.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So, you know, we've kind of started out with a whole huge number of priorities and reduced, reduced them down to try and help. We've got to focus action. That's… that's the job, of the… of the strategy. We can't say everything's important when that might be what… what we, what we think. We've got to think, okay, well, the life of the strategy is kind of…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: We're working on about 10 years. What can we achieve within that… within that time? What should we be focusing on?

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Another purpose is to target funds, so it's about targeting funds and resources. The only direct link with funds at the moment to local nature recovery strategies is biodiversity net gain.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And people get 15% uplift if they're doing, biodiversity net gain in a mapped area of the local nature recovery strategy.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: But we also think that there's going to be future connections to wider agrienvironment schemes, such as the kind of top end, which is landscape recovery.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: and, you know, other fund… funding bids. It's a… it's an important, consideration if… if a county has spent a long time considering what its priorities are and where they are, where they are and what they are.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Then people are going to use them. You know, DEFRA's not paying for each county to produce this for no reason. We've got limited money, and it will therefore…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: it will influence how funding is used in future. The tricky thing is that we don't completely know how yet, which is putting landowners in a tricky situation when they're trying to decide what the best thing for their business is in a really turbulent time for them.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: It will provide guidance for landowners and others interested in nature recovery. You know, we're hoping it's useful, and that's the, you know, one of the kind of main drivers behind our consultation that's out. We want people to say.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Is it useful? How can we make it more useful? How can we make it more accurate and appropriate?

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So what it is, it's…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: two things. So, it's the statement of biodiversity priorities, and that's the kind of what. So, in each area.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: It sets out a description of the strategy area, it needs to set out what are the key opportunities, what are the key pressures and threats that need to be addressed, and then really importantly, what are the priorities and actions?

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And, yeah, they'll be different for each area.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: But there'll also be a lot of similarities. You know, we know we need more wetland, we know we need to restore peatland, we need to connect up woodlands, you know, it's all those sorts of things that we're talking about. It's not… it's nothing,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: new from that perspective. It's the kind of more habitat, it's the bigger habitat, it's the kind of making it better and better connected.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And what's different about this is prioritizing

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: what it is that we focus on, and then the map is saying, well, where is it that we should be focusing on? And each map,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Has started from the same point.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: The green bits are the… the kind of bits that are really good already.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So they're the designated sites, and every area

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: in… within that, what we've called… what's green on that map, it's called the areas of particular importance for biodiversity. So it's the kind of existing good bits, and they're things like, the sites for special scientific interest, or Ramzar sites, or…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: the… what in this map is brown, so the areas that could become of particular importance for biodiversity. It's a big mouthful. But, and this bit's different, because we're mapping…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: What could be there?

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And DEFRA didn't specify a methodology to do that, and so each area has adopted its own methodology.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: We've worked with Oxford University that had an established methodology, that we kind of built on to make it a bit more Shropshire and Telf Frederican specific.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: which sets out, this is the Nature Recovery Network.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And there are a number of mapped actions which appear on the map, and then there are a whole set of unmappable actions, and they only appear in the strategy document. And some people are saying, oh, well, you know, my land is not in the priority area, it's kind of showing as a wider area.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And some people are finding that a bit disincentivizing, and maybe not acknowledging the good work that they've done.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: before, which I can, you know, I can understand is disheartening, in some ways, but, you know, that's our job. We can't map everywhere, otherwise we're not prioritizing anything, so we've had a job to do, and that's what we've done, using a kind of, you know, a robust methodology.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: But importantly, there are actions that anyone can take anywhere. There is potential.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Anywhere. You know, we haven't mapped in Shropshire, we haven't mapped things like hedgerows, because they're beneficial wherever they happen. We haven't mapped,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So kind of reducing pesticides, or increasing, you know, kind of field corners for woodland or arable margins, or, you know, anything like that. Although they're, you know, fundamental and really important priorities, and arguably if, you know, if they were adopted wholesale across the…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: county could potentially have a, you know, absolutely massive, impact, because as soon as you've got, you know, insects and everything's got something else to eat it. But they're not mapped, so it's important,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: To, you know, to recognize that there are these two elements, the map and the strategy.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So it is producing guidance for anyone who's managing land, who wants to improve nature, and it is based on sound methodology, and each area will be different, and the methodology needs to be kind of shared and set out. We've put it as an appendix to our strategy.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And it is mapping what could be there, rather than what is there, and yeah, it won't necessarily be right. There's not necessarily a right answer, because we're not mapping what's there, currently.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And it is just looking at land through a lens for nature.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: It's not looking at it from a business perspective, or any other constraints.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And it's, you know, it's an opportunity for landowners and residents to shape nature recovery, which is important. You know, if you're in an area where your consultation is out now, do take the opportunity to have a look.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So what it's not, it's not a designation, when you looked at the map, it's about 50% of the county that we've mapped.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And it's not requiring anybody to take any action.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: There are also links with the nature restoration levy that was mentioned in the, in the planning bill as well to the LNRS. So we're, yeah, we're expecting the LNRS to be, to be used, but we're waiting for that kind of future

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Legislation to come through to kind of, back that up.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: It's not perfect, no strategy will be perfect. Every data set is flawed, unfortunately, but we've done what we can do, to the best of our ability, and it's the best available to us right now. And each LNRS will be iterated, so this is its first iteration.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: It's determined by the Secretary of State, but the window is, between 3 and 10 years.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: it will be reviewed, and the recommendation from the Office for Environmental Protection is that that review period is earlier rather than later, because this is new. And, you know, as soon as you start using something, you think, oh, that's what we should have put in it, or, you know, it's the same with anything.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: An early review would be helpful at this point.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: It's not a funded action plan, and it's not a grant provider, but it is meant, to be used to help, focus funding in the future.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: those broader outcomes, but, like, if you were to take a flood resilience plan, you would have some hard infrastructure in there, like walls and things, and it's, you know, it's not that. It's just drawn on, the environmental pressures.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Okay, that's me done, Janet. I'll hand over to you, but I'll keep sharing.

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Janet Cobb: Okay. So, as Lynne said, she's the lead for the local nature recovery strategy in Shropshire, Telford and Recon.

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Janet Cobb: And the reason I got interested was twofold, really. I'm a parish clerk, but only for a parish meeting. But I'm also on the board of Middlemarch's Community Land Trust.

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Janet Cobb: So I was already interested in nature recovery. And Lynn and I had a conversation quite early on, where we talked about the engagement of town and parish councils in the local nature recovery strategy. So, Lynne, quite rightly, has been focusing on farmers and landowners. We're a very rural county.

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Janet Cobb: a project called Restoring Shropshire's Verges Project, so I'd already spent 18 months talking to town and parish councils about restoring roadside verges into long, linear meadows.

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Janet Cobb: So this is a… this is the program for our, conference on the 3rd of October, and we've structured it so that we've got, sort of, you know.

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Janet Cobb: well, local, important people to talk, and some national speakers. So one of the national speakers is, Dr. Jack Reed from the University of Exeter.

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Janet Cobb: I'll talk a little bit about that in a bit. And Tom Chance, who's the Chief Executive of the National Community Land Trust Network,

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Janet Cobb: And through this, slide.

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Janet Cobb: And then in the afternoon, we've been working with town and parish councils to try and get town and parish councils to develop bespoke nature recovery plans.

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Janet Cobb: Is something that could be repeated everywhere.

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Janet Cobb: If people are interested in, talking to us after this, I'm quite happy to help people put stuff together, or think about how to put stuff together.

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Janet Cobb: So, we've also been working with Exeter University. So, Exeter University have been running this project called Nature Recovery and Regional Development. The link's there for people who are interested.

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Janet Cobb: And it talks about the 30 by 30 agreement. I don't know whether people know about the 30 by 30 agreement, but we've signed an international agreement to restore 30% of our land back to nature by 2030. Well, we're at 2025 now, so we'd better get a move on, I think.

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Janet Cobb: And there are currently 11 members of the Alliance, one of which is Shropshire.

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Janet Cobb: So, we've been sending case studies to Jack, an extra university about the work that's been happening in Shropshire, and hopefully these case studies are going to end up with DEFRA at some point.

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Janet Cobb: And they're nothing sort of sophisticated, they're just simple case studies mapping out the sorts of things that have been happening

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Janet Cobb: In town and parish councils here, so things like wildlife talks, putting up bird boxes, putting ponds in, planting hedgerows, restoring roadside verges, all the things that ordinary people can do.

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Janet Cobb: So, as a result of looking at the local nature recovery strategy, and having talked to town and parish councils across Shropshire.

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Janet Cobb: what Lynn and I decided to do was develop this sort of a very simple work boot for people to work through. So all we've done is pull out the actions from the local nature recovery strategy that ordinary people can take.

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Janet Cobb: And extra things like develop a local tree nursery. So we worked out if, every town and parish council, for example, grew 200 trees, we could grow 38,000 trees across the county with local provenance.

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Janet Cobb: And, we… last year, we planted so many hedgerows, we ran out of trees to plant, or ran out of whips to plant. So, little actions can all add up to sort of big actions.

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Janet Cobb: Yeah, and we're lucky in Shropshire that we've got these organisations on the ground that we can work with, so we've got a Marches Meadow Group who are developing wildflower meadows. We've got Middlemarches Community Land Trust buying up land for nature.

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Janet Cobb: and creating stepping stones for nature. I'm sure everybody else will have organisations on the ground that they can tap into for support.

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Janet Cobb: So, I think that's all I want to say, really. I'm quite happy to answer questions.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Lynn and Janet, thank you so much. I thought, A, that was fascinating, B, it was very uplifting and reassuring, and C, I'm afraid I've written down on my piece of paper, who knew?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: I'm even more fascinated to discover that the Isle of Wight is so targeting parish councils, because I'm on a parish council in the Isle of Wight. I've never heard anything of this, so…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: I'm looking forward to finding out more and why we haven't been targeted yet. I do have a couple of questions, if I could get the ball rolling.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Please, which was way back at the start, Lynne. How does one actually find one's local nature recovery strategy organization? You say that there's 50 across the country. Who are they?

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So there's a… there's a list, if, I'll… I'll go away and find it and post it in the chat. But Defra basically said, this is who they are, and there is a list online. It's a responsible authority list, so I will, I'll find it. Okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Oh, someone's already put it in, Jack.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Oh, there we go, brilliant.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: The second question I had was, you mentioned mapping as being important to you, and I wondered, has anyone made you familiar with the fact that parish councils are now able to map everything that you're doing on their mapping systems, because they're all compatible?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: And has anyone approached you and said, would you please export what you're doing.

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: To, parish online, so that local parishes can actually have your maps and work with them.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Oh, no, I didn't know that. And, that would be really good, yeah, so anybody, that asked for our map, could…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: have the, the files, they've been… they're kind of open source data. We… we bought a couple of data sets, but they were kind of used in the magic behind it, the kind of outputs don't need…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: I'm very happy to work with you to help out there, but.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: There is a lot that we could… it's also possible to make it two-way.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: So if you want to update your map with what's happening in the local parish, that can be done electronically. So it's a two-way system.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Is that something that every parish council uses, or could use?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: At the moment, somewhere in the region of 2,500 councils are using it across the country, so there's still seven and a half to go, but we're hopeful. And,

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: The third question I had was really for everybody, when it was triggered by A your discussions about funding, and B a meeting that I attended last night. I'm in the middle of doing some crowdfunding.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: And crowdfunder.co.uk said, we started 14 years ago as purely crowdfunding, but since then, a bigger part of our business has been distributing cash

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: That corporations, local authorities, and central government make available, because they find it's an easy way of getting hold of people.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: So, for those of you who are looking for money, if you log in and sign in to crowdfunder.co.uk, which is a free

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: service, then they will, and you describe what it is that you're trying to do, then their system automatically will channel you to those sources of funds in your area. So, corporations might be interested in a specific place, like, say, Shropshire.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: But the government, or DEFRA, will say, well, we haven't heard from you, and we'd be delighted to support you. So I found this eye-opening last night when I discovered it. So I thought I'd just pass it on to everybody, that if you're looking for money.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Crowdfunder.co.uk isn't necessarily about crowdfunding. It is also just helping the government distribute cash to those people who should be getting it, but didn't know they could.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: So I mentioned that. I'll put that in the chat in a moment. And then, thank you very much for paying attention to these wonderful questions from me, and now let's move on to the important ones from everyone else. And Stuart, you're first, please.

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Hi, thanks. I'd just like to say thank you for two, fantastic presentations.

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: One of my, interests at the moment is soil health, which I think Lynn was talking about quite a bit.

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: A lot of our soil is managed by farmers.

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: And I was wondering how you got on with the regenerative

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Farming with your local, farmers?

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So there's a lot of interest in, in nutrigentive agriculture locally. It's a huge, big plethora, isn't it, of, of actions? Yes.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So we've…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: as part of the strategy, we've incorporated aspects, I suppose would be fair to say, within the strategy document.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: There's a section on farmland, and, you know, there are priorities and actions, as there are in, you know, if there would be for grassland and woodland and wetland. So there's a specific section on farmland, and…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: The kind of regenerative aspects have been included within that, and we, drew on a couple of case studies to give people an idea of the sorts of things that they…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: That they could do to bring the kind of strategy to life a little bit,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: But I suppose it's, it's in the round, in that, so it's… I suppose it's not the place to go if you were looking for, you know, loads of information on regenerative agriculture. I wouldn't say the local nature recovery strategy is… is the gospel.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: But it's a really fundamental, important point of, important part of the LNRS.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Because such, you know, we're… I think 84% of Shropshire and Telford and Rican is farmland, and so, if people could move more towards, regenerative agriculture, and certainly kind of reducing, inputs, if that could be worked

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: worked into their businesses, then that could have a fundamental impact for nature.

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: But the government seems to be doing its best to deter them from doing it.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Yeah, I know, I know, and it's really frustrating, because, you know, I feel that we're standing up and saying.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: you know, do this stuff for nature, and at the moment, farmers are saying, well, there's no money. I'm gonna have to intensify, because I know that there's a market for sheep, because I can take them down to, you know, our local livestock market.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And I don't have an answer for that, because they need consistency and stability, and, you know, they need their business to be here next year.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So, it's quite a, you know.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: it's a sensitive time, and it's not easy, kind of, being here, promoting a… well, standing up in front of farmers, promoting a strategy which has come out from DEFRA, when they're saying, you know, I want to take some of these actions, but I'm not being supported. The kind of rug was pulled before I got there.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So, yeah, it is something that needs to be addressed, otherwise people are gonna go in the opposite direction, and that's a big risk.

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Yeah, thanks.

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Rome, obviously.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Oh, I'm so sorry, yes, I beg your pardon. David, go for it.

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: All of a sudden, he's shot you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: I know.

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Andrew's visible… invisible arrow is hit.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: So, David, please go ahead.

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David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Yes.

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David Newman (Blackbird Leys): C…

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David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Because this…

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David Newman (Blackbird Leys): nature recovery strategies being led by county councils, does that mean you have to identify the best places in the county which may not necessarily be the best places in the district or a parish?

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So… I suppose the short answer is yes, in that the strategy prioritises at the…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: At the scale at which it's working.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: But I would hope that there would be some throughput, and that…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: there's some similarity. I get it's a different exercise if you're starting at parish, and then working up to district, working up to county, you would end up with a different result, so it… I guess it depends on the methodology that's being used locally.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Here, we don't have district councils. We've got Shropshire Council and, and Telford and Recon Council, and then, the parish councils. So, we've used countywide, data sets.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And so we have prioritized at that level, but you would need to ask your local area to get a kind of definite answer for how they've done it.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: In, in your area.

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David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Yes, I'm asking because I'm in an urban area, and developers

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David Newman (Blackbird Leys): allowed to compensate somewhere else in the whole county.

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David Newman (Blackbird Leys): As you… Today.

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David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Baroness Willis put an amendment to the Planning and Infrastructure Law to say everywhere should be within 15 minutes of nature.

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David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Because of the decline in nature in urban areas like ours.

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David Newman (Blackbird Leys): And, but where we are.

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David Newman (Blackbird Leys): They're doing compensation in places you couldn't get to in 15 minutes unless you have a flying car.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Yeah, yeah, and that's… yeah, I mean, BNG's definitely got its… it's got its benefits, and it's better than it was previously, which is, you know, the damage happened, and there was nothing you could do about it. At least there's some recompense, but it's definitely got its flaws.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Elunid, may we move on to you, please?

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Eluned, Kingsthorpe PC: Yes, thank you. It's just two follow-up questions to the things that have been raised already. One was the mapping system, this parish online. How do… how does the parish council sign up to this?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: We will put the details in the chat, Lunid.

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Eluned, Kingsthorpe PC: Thank you, thank you very much. And the other question was, we are an urban parish, and we have got about a 10% tree canopy cover, which we're trying to increase to 20%. We have a plan, we've had it on hold now for nearly a year.

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Eluned, Kingsthorpe PC: But we're waiting for government funding, because the, the fund for trees was, withdrawn, and we're waiting for the new one. Have you got any news about when this might come out, or, or alternative sources of funding?

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Well, so new… I've got no idea. So, I used to work for Natural England, and I, you know, in theory had meetings with DEFRA every day, and still only heard about new funding at the same time as it was announced. So I don't think anyone gets to hear about it unless you're in a very close circle.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: I don't know. I mean, there would be…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: I guess there's different benefits, so I suppose I'm just thinking from a benefit point of view, because you've got, you know, there's obviously benefit to people from a nature point of view, benefit to people from a cooling, urban cooling point of view, and pollution point of view, and…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: I don't know where that… where those links would come through. The hard thing for street trees is that they're really expensive. I mean, it's something like £2,000 a tree or something, isn't it? It's like, it's so expensive, and so…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: the cost, if you're putting in a big tree, and then, you know, needing its water and, you know, all of that, is tricky. I don't know, other people might be a better place to answer. I have not looked for funding for street trees for a long time.

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Janet Cobb: Can I say a bit on that?

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Janet Cobb: So we started a Trees Outside Woodlands project in Shropshire, and there are four community-based nurseries. So funding came through the local authority. Tiny amounts of funding.

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Janet Cobb: And I started one of the nurseries here, so I'm growing 200 oak trees.

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Janet Cobb: with local provenance from acorns.

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Janet Cobb: They're sort of 2 years old now, and we're just giving them away for free.

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Janet Cobb: So, I mean, people can… if people wanted to, they could just start to grow their own trees. And it's much better to grow them locally with local provenance. So what I'm doing this year is going around veteran oak trees and collecting

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Janet Cobb: acorns from, you know, veteran trees that have got no… there's been no sort of succession planning.

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Janet Cobb: So we want to capture those genetics as well. Somebody put in the chat that the Tree Council… the Tree Council have done lots of stuff in terms of lots of talks and information on opening micro-nurseries.

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Janet Cobb: So, as I said, you know, if every town and parish council here opened a micro-nursery just growing 200 trees every year, we could grow 38,000.

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Janet Cobb: In the counter, every year.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Yes.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Hmm, yeah. It's a tricky one, though, isn't it? Because the trees are, you know, I think… I mean, I don't want to…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: I think it's really good… there are so many important things in terms of local provenance and growing trees and making it easy and getting people engaged. The street trees is hard enough to trap because of the…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Of the… all the stuff that goes with it, because it just costs so much because of the contractors to put it into the concrete, effectively.

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Janet Cobb: It does make it cheaper doing it.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Small trees, if you can get it past the landscape people, because they don't need much watering.

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Janet Cobb: No.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: need as much looking after, and there's less failure rate, but they just look a bit pathetic.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: I'm potentially more likely to get damaged because they're so little, but…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Yeah, it's a tricky one. I don't… I don't know what to suggest with street trees, so…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And they're really important. Urban cooling's massive.

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Eluned, Kingsthorpe PC: Yeah.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Gonna get more and more of an issue.

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Eluned, Kingsthorpe PC: Right, thank you very much.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Claire, may we move on to you, please?

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Claire Deruty, Cheshire, Kelsall Parish Council: Yes, my question was about, implementation, because the, Lynn mentioned that in the, LNRS, there's no mandate for delivery, so, we, we've had our local one in Westchester. I was out for consultation earlier this year.

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Claire Deruty, Cheshire, Kelsall Parish Council: And it's got lots of fantastic ideas in there. But so, from what you say.

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Claire Deruty, Cheshire, Kelsall Parish Council: At the moment, they're just guidelines.

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Claire Deruty, Cheshire, Kelsall Parish Council: So I was just wondering that we are a parish council, and we are currently updating a neighborhood development plan. We've got the scope to put in some policies, under planning that would… that would actually have to be followed.

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Claire Deruty, Cheshire, Kelsall Parish Council: I'm wondering to what extent we can use the LNRS document as evidence and support for our own policies?

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Yeah, you can, and the LNRS has got, it's got some status in the planning,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: within planning, so, you know, it's a material consideration, and it has to be given regard. But it's not there to prevent planning, it's more there to inform planning.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: In that the LNRS isn't mapping

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: necessarily what's there, it's mapping what could be there.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Yeah, so in… so what I would put in there would be things like, looking at what, for your neighbourhood, what the LNRS is saying.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: If it highlights any particular places which are really good for biodiversity that aren't already, protected, then they're important to have that kind of enhanced consideration in the planning.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: within, you know, any, any planning, decisions that go on.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: But also to look at where there's kind of been opportunity that's been identified, and using the… it's possible to use the planning system

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: As a tool for enhancing

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: nature, in that we need money. So if the planet… if some things are gonna happen anyway,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Then, arguably, if you've got a…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: a kind of green desert, depending on what's there already. You can enhance nature if it's, you know, we all know this, if it's thought about early enough, and

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: and with enough care and consideration, then there's definite benefits for nature and for people. It doesn't mean that, you know, there aren't broader impacts, and that it then is a kind of land use change forever, and it might not be right for other reasons, but if the… if the planning, you know, if…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: whatever government says, you've got to have this many houses, then the LNRS, I would hope, would give some guidance as to how they could be planned more sensitively into the surrounds.

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Claire Deruty, Cheshire, Kelsall Parish Council: Sure, and we can certainly try and do this, but,

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Claire Deruty, Cheshire, Kelsall Parish Council: If it's just guidance, I'm wondering how well it's going to hold, because in… what we've seen happen around the Cheshire villages, where land is quite… well, housing is quite profitable, is that…

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Claire Deruty, Cheshire, Kelsall Parish Council: Unless it's written in black and white in the planning policy documents, then it tends to be,

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Claire Deruty, Cheshire, Kelsall Parish Council: disregarded.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: To a large extent, unless you're very lucky and your developer happens to be.

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Claire Deruty, Cheshire, Kelsall Parish Council: To be one of a better kind, but, if they're not, then they… all the nice-to-haves will just get, binned, and they will only do what's actually set in… set in the letter of the planning law.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: I know, it's really depressing.

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Claire Deruty, Cheshire, Kelsall Parish Council: Right, okay.

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Claire Deruty, Cheshire, Kelsall Parish Council: Technically, it's trying to push back on planning applications and trying to write it into our policies.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And the neighbourhood plans are… they've got… they've got status, haven't they? So you'll.

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Claire Deruty, Cheshire, Kelsall Parish Council: Then, yeah.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: you know, there's loads of benefit in doing it and deciding how the development is going to happen in your patch, because then you've got some… some sort of control over it, but I know it's tricky. Yeah, we need a…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Yeah, we need a different solution, because we're not getting more land, are we?

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Claire Deruty, Cheshire, Kelsall Parish Council: Thank you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Now, I have a hand still up from a lunad. Is that just a leftover, or do you have another question, right? Is there anyone else who would like to ask a question? Yes, Juliet, you're raising your hand.

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Judith Robinson: Yes, hello, I don't know how to find the hand on my computer to raise it. I was just wondering, was there any connection with health and health benefits that, might bring in another stream of funding?

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Yeah, there are, I mean, there are loads of connections. I mean, there's kind of connections with the kind of physical health, so such as, you know, we're losing, we're literally losing people every year now because of heat, particularly in urban environments, and so that is a massive thing. But from a kind of health and well-being, perspective,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: there's, you know, I think that opens a whole raft of different funding opportunities, and I know that there are, you know, there are different, different projects around the country that are… are building on that,

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: But there's also… Janet and I were speaking… have been speaking to the NHS from a kind of an estate management perspective as well, as a kind of, you know, a public body that has got land.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: And, you know, there are benefits

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: kind of multiple benefits if, if health organizations can, actually enhance the nature around their

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: the place where poorly people are, then they get better quicker. And there is more and more evidence to, to support that.

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Janet Cobb: So, so the sorts of conversations we've been having is, can you create a mini meadow in front of your GP surgery? Can you, instead of mowing and creating green deserts in care homes, can we have some trees, please, and wildflowers?

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Janet Cobb: Those sorts of conversations. So it's not rocket science, it's, you know… and oh, we also started a conversation with Connexus, which are our local biggest social housing provider. Could you integrate nature into your housing stock, and how to do that?

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Janet Cobb: So, you know, put up swift boxes, plant trees, litter pick, and plant wildflowers on derelict pieces of land. That just become a nuisance.

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Janet Cobb: So on and so forth. So it's not… none of it's difficult.

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Janet Cobb: Did you find them responsive, Janet? Yeah, so far they're… yeah, they are interested.

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Janet Cobb: I think a lot of them are keen to become more popular, aren't they? Well, yeah, it's good, you know, it's a good news story instead of a bad news story. If you can create a mini meadow somewhere which has previously been an eyesore, then that's great.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: There are a few, in Oxfordshire, where you are, David, there are a few, GP surgeries that were part of it called Be Healthy, B-E-E Healthy.

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Janet Cobb: God.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Scheme that's set up.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: kind of really nice pollinator flower beds, effectively, just in front of their GP surgeries, as part of a kind of broader project, because of the benefits, and people, you know, it kind of… it takes that moment, that breath.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Which, you know, we're not very good at these days, because it's kind of head down, and…

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Yeah.

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Janet Cobb: So one of the big projects in Shropshire has been restoring the roadside verges to Long Linear Meadows, and we're just on the cusp now of trying to get the contract changed, because the local authority gave out a 10-year contract last time. So the contract's just up, well, up for renewal, I think it's just been extended another year.

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Janet Cobb: But what we want them to do is move from cut and leave to cut, collect, and restore. And in the end, that would save

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Janet Cobb: well, potentially millions of pounds. We've got a huge roadside network here.

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Janet Cobb: So, you know, and then, you know, all the benefits that come from that in terms of biodiversity and increasing the insect population.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Hmm, no.

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Judith Robinson: Wonderful.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Thank you. Stuart, can we move to you, please?

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: On mute? It is basically another answer for Judith. It was an interesting study which I was looking at a few weeks ago.

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Suddenly divided a group of young children into two.

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: One was allowed to play in a standard sandbox for 3 or 4 weeks.

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: The second group played in the same sandbox, inoculated with,

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: with the soil, and all the native soil fungi and bacteria and things. And they found that the children that played in the soil-enriched sandbox had much better microbiomes and

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Much better immune systems.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Wow.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: That's good, it's wonderful.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Yeah.

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: So, go out and eat soil.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: So…

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Janet Cobb: some very interesting films on soil health, which I put in the chat earlier on.

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Janet Cobb: People want… one of the things that we would recommend is that you start showing those films in parish council meetings.

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Janet Cobb: Understand soil and how important it is.

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Yeah, well, it's absolutely vital.

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Janet Cobb: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Berlin and Janet, it's been a wonderfully uplifting session. Thank you so much. I found it very informative, very refreshing, and very encouraging, and lots of leads to follow.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: So thank you so much, and do come again next year.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Maybe there's some proper results. Yeah. Nice, wouldn't it?

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Yeah, some change in delivery.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: In a change from my usual carefree manner, I am able to tell you that next week, we will be discussing local partnerships, which may well follow on

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: from how you start pulling all these people together to get them to work together and to be able to, have larger amounts of money available to do things. So, do please tune in again next week, those of you who are interested.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: And if there aren't any further questions, let me just reiterate a big thank you, and hope to see you again in the future. Thank you for joining us.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Bye, everybody.

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Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Thanks very much.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Bye-bye.

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Lynn Parker, Shropshire and Telford & Wrekin LNRS: Thank you, bye-bye now.

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Val Armstrong: Bye.

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\# Shropshire, Telford & Wrekin Local Nature Recovery Strategy

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Lynn Parker, LNRS Co-Ordinator, <L.Parker@shropshire.gov.uk>

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Local Nature Recovery Strategy

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Purpose of LNRS is to identify priority nature recovery actions across the whole county

48 being prepared across England aim is to have one Nature Recovery Network map for whole country

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As per the legislation (Environment Act 2021) & Defra requirements

Designates

a responsible authority district / borough councils and Natural England

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Why the need for LNRS?

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It the What

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2\. Local Habitat Map t necessarily be .(e.g. arable could be mapped as grassland)

Looking at the land through a lens for nature, not from a business perspective.

Opportunity for landowners and residents to shape nature recovery

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What the LNRS is NOT

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The map is not a designation

It is not requiring anyone to take action. There is currently no mandate for the delivery of the strategy

It is not perfect - the data we have relied on will never be perfect BUT it is likely to be used in future to help focus wider funding

It is informed by wider environmental pressures (flooding, drought, heat resilience, soil health, health & wellbeing etc) but it is not a flood resilience plan

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Shropshire, Telford & Wrekin Local Nature Recovery Strategy (LNRS)

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IMPLEMENTATION LNRS

Support from Shropshire Association of Local Councils (SALC)

<https://www.alcshropshire.co.uk/>

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Middle Marches Community Land Trust

<https://middlemarchescommunitylandtrust.org.uk/>

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Nature Recovery and Regional Developmenthttps\://gtr.ukri.org/projects?ref=ES%2FY001508%2F1 EXETER UNIVERSITY

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The United Kingdom (UK) has set ambitious targets to reverse biodiversity decline and ensure that 30% of land and sea is protected for wildlife by 2030, simultaneously contributing to reaching net zero, adapting to climate change and improving population health and wellbeing. This research project, entitled Nature Recovery and Regional Development (NaRReD), aims to ensure that we develop the research capacity and insight needed to successfully embed nature recovery in regional development policy and practice across the country.

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Currently 11 members of the alliance; Cornwall, Cumbria, Dorset, Durham, East Riding, Herefordshire, Isles of Scilly, Isle of Wight, North Yorkshire, Rutland and Shropshire.

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Simple workbook for Councillors
