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00:33:39 Amanda Davis, Cotswolds: Are the renewables potential areas heavily influenced by excluding the national landscapes?
00:39:11 Peter Anderson: Do you have any indication as to how much Local Authorities use data like this to inform their strategic planning?
00:43:55 wendy thomson Glolucestershire: Is the evidence based on households or does it include businesses in local area?
00:46:24 Peter Anderson: How much is FoE focusing on making recommendations based on the data being provided? And is there a plan to utilise AI in analysing the health of a local area and making suggestion for potential interventions?
00:52:26 Peter Anderson: An issue local communities have is that many of the big issues are invisible, such as air, water and soil quality, and rarely get the focus they deserve, so I'd be interested to hear what more can we do to make these maps visible to local people?
00:55:33 Amanda Davis, Cotswolds: Are the datasets points in time, or are there longitudinal datasets, so we can look for data reactions to an action that happened?
01:02:47 Joolz | Community Climate Action: https://wewantwind.org/
01:05:21 Peter Anderson: Also, perhaps a map with how much battery capacity would be required in different places to bring onstream all the renewable projects that have permissions but cant connect to the grid.
01:08:57 Peter Anderson: Lots of renewable energy on its way from Morocco shortly! (7.5GW of solar capacity, 3.5GW of wind capacity and 22.5GWh of battery energy storage in Morocco that will be enough to run 7 million British homes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VtFmU5-ESw
01:09:07 Amanda Davis, Cotswolds: Earthwatch are collecting water sampling data. Citizen science groups. Rivers Evenlode, Windrush and others upstream catchment of Thames
01:11:33 Amanda Davis, Cotswolds: Greenpeace provided a poster "I'm voting for Climate Change"
01:11:56 Toby Bridgeman: Replying to "Greenpeace provided ..."
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: yeah, let me go through my usual blurb about this is a recorded session, and the results get published on Youtube and our own Wiki. So anyone who does not wish to be published.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: act accordingly at the state time.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Otherwise welcome to the weekly.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and a session for the great collaboration whose purpose is to help people find their way through the plethora of information
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: about climate change and the like
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: on the Internet, and to in be able to impose their own plans.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: To the greatest efficiency. And to that end we have today, giving us a presentation from the friends of the earth. Toby Richmond, who's going to install this. I trust, with all the layers of data that you can achieve from the friends of the Earth, and use as required. So, Toby, if you're all happy over to you. Please.
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Toby Bridgeman: Thanks. Graham.
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Toby Bridgeman: had intended to produce very slick presentation today, but the election announcement, I think, happened after I signed up, and so we
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Toby Bridgeman: I'm trying to, I sort of I can think I'm talking clearly, but my voice. My mouth was a bit unusual. So sorry if it's if I'm if anything is unclear, please do ask me to repeat
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Toby Bridgeman: so I've got a couple of slides to show not too many. And then I've also got just some some maps. We tend to make maps
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Toby Bridgeman: yeah. So I'm I'm from friends of the earth. Hopefully, people have heard of friends of the Earth. But if if not, we were a sort of environmental campaigning organization, and we work on
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Toby Bridgeman: the sort of themes of of climate. We have a very strong climate campaign, obviously. But we also work around nature, and we also around work around sort of the the right and the right to protest as well. Those are are 3 big, big campaigning
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Toby Bridgeman: I, I sit in a team. The the policy and insights team, which is essentially essentially the research team
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Toby Bridgeman: and we have a so small environmental data unit there, where. So as as a key part of our work, we, we believe, is
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Toby Bridgeman: conducting data analysis and getting and and producing statistics that help support our kind of national campaigns, but also give give data to to our local groups. We have a, we have a big network of local groups all across the country across
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Toby Bridgeman: So we think it's really important that we get kind of local statistics to help support local people. Make make action, make things happen on their ground.
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Toby Bridgeman: So as a result of that, we kind of we. You know, we produce kind of quite a lot of analysis, but we also produce maps and tools. And there's an example on the right of the screen there of a tool we've got called near you where you can put in your postcode, and you can see
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Toby Bridgeman: a series of local data covering various topics in your local authority.
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Toby Bridgeman: And we're actually got. We've got a tool that we're releasing this week, which is similar, but kind of a constituency level in the run up to
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Toby Bridgeman: So we don't. We won't work alone. We we one of our concepts. Is very much to direct. Try and do things with open door open open door, open data and make that publicly available as well. But we are aware that a lot of other people are doing similar work and have a lot of expertise. So we try and work in collaboration where we can or
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah. So anyway, onto today, I just Co, we wanted to say that a lot of the data we produce, particularly them sort of mapping and local data we produce is what is is done at what's called lsoa level, which is.
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Toby Bridgeman: but as part of telling that story. We wanted to understand who which which communities most likely to be impacted by the energy crisis. So we look to bringing in various data on energy consumption, the efficiency of homes income levels to create what we call these energy crisis hotspots. So it's where places where it's kind of a measure of fuel poverty, but using slightly different
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Colin Marsh: Who looks.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, absolutely brilliant, Toby. Thank you so much. It's really fascinating. It's rather noisy in my background. So I'm gonna ask Jules if he take over as the Co. Host, please, and if people have questions to ask you, if they could please use the hand raising facility in zoom that would make life much easier for everybody.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I'll ask Jules to take over, and perhaps Wendy is the 1st for the question. Thank you.
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wendy thomson Glolucestershire: I'm just trying to click on the Reds
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wendy thomson Glolucestershire: microphone, anyway. Thank you, Toby, that was really really interesting. I wasn't expecting to make this today, and at 5 to 12 I was able to. So I've sort of
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wendy thomson Glolucestershire: feel like a gate crashed it. But I'm so pleased.
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wendy thomson Glolucestershire: Can you just confirm. I can't remember if I call what your role is within friends of the Earth, and also the maps you was showing. I'd love to have a look at them. In my own time. And is that where I can access them is through the website.
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Toby Bridgeman: all those maps I showed I'll put direct links to them as well as we tend to have them embedded in wider stories, because we're obviously a map on its own is not what we we're trying to like push action. So it'd be like, here's the analysis. This is what we think it means. And this is what we're asking for. So it's like always policy implications and what? What the kind of campaign ask we like. But also, I'll I'll put in those
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wendy thomson Glolucestershire: Yeah, cause I'm just looking to get more focused on. I'm in Stone House, in Gloucestershire. So only just up the road from you and Bristol but obviously looking if it is just information more for a bigger area. I'm just looking just to just to keep nibbling away at council to say, are we doing enough? Because
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wendy thomson Glolucestershire: I don't feel like we are? And I'm it'd be really interesting to see, you know, what else can we do for helping people get installation and whatever. And I, there's being programs and some money. But it was like
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wendy thomson Glolucestershire: a handful of houses in our town. But anyway, so I'm just looking to sort of see if I can pick up on any really useful
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah, and the other. Well, the other thing about that I don't know. If you heard that mention the tool called the near you at all. We you basically.
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Toby Bridgeman: Local authority level that produces it does show this, what? Where things are at the moment, and there's a sort of series of targets of where things should be so basic. For example,
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Toby Bridgeman: Oh, and your other question was, what? What's my role? So I'm in my job site is environmental data lead. So I'm the kind of
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Amanda Davis, Cotswolds: My apologies. I zoom said no for the 1st 5 5 plus minutes, so I did miss your introduction, I'm afraid. Thank you very much. I'm a scientist in the sense that evidence is always important, and if you can inform with facts that can't be disputed, then you've got a much more powerful tool
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Amanda Davis, Cotswolds: And I guess one of the questions the main question I've got is of the things that you're sharing with us, and that we can access publicly.
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Amanda Davis, Cotswolds: How much are usable, I mean, is it open source, and can or is there an etiquette about, I mean, I will always try and state my source, etc. But can you tell us about how we can use it to make a case locally? Thank you.
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah, that's a really good question. It's always it's always difficult. Knowing.
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Toby Bridgeman: and which is frustrating. So like the you know, sort of pollution or or sewage bills. But there are, you know, the the renewables, map and the kind of tree tree canopy map is kind of showing what? Also providing some sort of level of solutions.
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Toby Bridgeman: across our network, we've got groups who are like are really on it and know exactly what they want to do, and just need very little support from our kind of head office, if you like other groups a bit like we're quite overwhelmed here, and we're not like, there seems to be a lot of things. What? Why is the issue? And in that case the tool say, well, in in your areas, probably if you were looking to kind of focus on an area that transport seems to be
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Amanda Davis, Cotswolds: Maybe maybe this might help I'm involved with the Parish and Town Council as a parish councillor, and also by clerk occasionally. But I'm also representing 38 parish and town councils on our local Cotswold national landscape on the board.
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Amanda Davis, Cotswolds: and we were looking at priorities, and we were doing this mapping and putting overlays and using Gis using a lot of analysis to sort of
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Amanda Davis, Cotswolds: check that the priorities that we'd assumed were the right ones to be going for in terms of things like, I don't know 2050 net 0 or around sustainable tourism, or whatever it is we're looking at. I just wanted to make sure that we're not just going with the myth and the legend that is this issue. And that is truly data based.
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Amanda Davis, Cotswolds: I mean, my level's at master's level. It's not. It's not at your level, maybe, but you know, if my question really is, are all these tools that we can go and check? Are we allowed to quote them and publish them?
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Toby Bridgeman: Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. So so a a, we make make sure that the majority of our data we use is comes from open source providers, anyway. So there's no kind of issue with that with us reproducing and and passing it on. And secondly, no, that's a really, you know, really big part of what we're doing. We we don't want to be gatekeepers, or, you know.
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Toby Bridgeman: we don't have any commercial interest in this day. You know, it's more like we want people see people use it and use it as best they can to inform what they're doing or make action happen. So that's you know.
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Toby Bridgeman: our aim is not to make pretty data and maps and stop there like that's not, you know. Other people do want to do that. And I love looking at pretty, pretty maps. But you know, the whole point of this is like what the so what like? Here's some data. So what
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Toby Bridgeman: which sounds slick? But actually, it's it's still really hard sometimes to answer those questions
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Toby Bridgeman: I don't think a lot of local stuff should be driven by the data. It should be supported by the data. So like, you know, in a local area, you'll know in your parishes what the key things are, what people are talking about, what concerns them, what they're worried about. And then that point, you can look at data and go, okay, does that support what we're trying to do rather.
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Amanda Davis, Cotswolds: Come up with your hypothesis first, st and take the.
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Toby Bridgeman: In most cases, I think so. Yeah. But I think because data can be.
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Toby Bridgeman: you're right in saying that data is really helpful and being supported. But data can be looked at in different ways, and choose, you know, choose to support different arguments in different ways as well. So
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Toby Bridgeman: support, sir. You know we've got some great campaigners at friends. Yes, and I would never go.
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Toby Bridgeman: This is what you should do. First, st because the data says it, the campaigners will be like, we're doing this campaign. How can data help support our campaign and provide statistics or provide some evidence that that supports that campaign that we know is popular. So and that's why I'd say to that, yeah.
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Amanda Davis, Cotswolds: Thank you very much. So that's basically causation rather than correlation.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Brilliant, brilliant thanks, Toby. Tristram has his hand raised. I think he's next. And then, following that, I'll read out a question in from the chat.
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tristram cary: Yeah, Terry, I just wondered about
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tristram cary: duplication of data from other sources.
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tristram cary: To what extent do you create data? Sort of original data yourself. And to what extent do you rely on on other sources? So one example, for instance, is the ons I know, produce a map of multiple deprivation. And it's multiple
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tristram cary: deprivation at an Lsoa area. Have you? Have you added that data? Or have you created your own map?
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah, so that's a great question. And I think I I think too much duplication does go on
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Toby Bridgeman: You know, their their kind of business model involves them kind of having data and generating that data and then and then selling it.
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Toby Bridgeman: I think, for example, when we the the tree map that we did which is quite interesting. We
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Toby Bridgeman: did that the organ, like I said, an organization produce that that map for us. And then we were okay. Want to put that out. Let people know it's there. Let people know how we can use it. Almost within about a month of that, and us advertising an event and a seminar where we published it.
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Toby Bridgeman: there was about 3 or 4 other pieces of similar but slightly different analysis came out looking at kind of tree cover across the country
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Toby Bridgeman: which is kind of good. But everyone was doing sort of similar things, but not really not communicating. So it's a real, it's a real. It's got a real problem. And I guess the way the organizations are structured and work in their business cases means that it's hard sometimes to collaborate and and work across organizations, which is.
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tristram cary: Just to go back to, to go back to the ons data that.
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Toby Bridgeman: You take the.
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tristram cary: Data as a starting point, and then refine it? Or is it a parallel piece of work.
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Toby Bridgeman: It's a, it's a parallel side. So the the yeah, the I, the index of multiple decoration is great, and we use that quite a lot underlining, some to produce kind of understanding, so that the energy crisis hotspots, we use that as an underlying data source. And but that's very much about kind of like social deprivation. So it brings in.
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah, it's it's got like about 7 or 8 domains covering
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Toby Bridgeman: But the so the the one we're looking at is very much only using environmental data. So it's kind of
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Toby Bridgeman: how would you describe it? Really.
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Toby Bridgeman: it's a similar process. But it's using almost entirely different data sets. I don't think there's any overlapping data sets that's very much focused on
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Toby Bridgeman: So that tree covers this part of it. So it's I. It's almost like this, I would say. It's more like a sister project, and we have one of the guys at Strathclyde University was kind of one of the people who worked on the originally on the IM. The Imd as well, so kind of is aware of the kind of history of that as well. It's useful to, you know that. But it's not. No, I wouldn't say it's
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Thanks, Toby. And yeah, really fascinating to hear about. I am ed which covers pollution. Climate impacts and access to nature. Very will become really important. They set moving forward, I'm sure. The quick! The question in the chat
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: is, oh, I seem to have lost it. How much is friends of the Earth focusing on making recommendations based on the data being provided? And is there a plan to utilize AI in analysis?
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: analyzing the help of lo, a local area making suggestions for potential interventions. I can say from my perspective, that is a question I've asked our development team and some of our experts. In our team at the great collaboration so very interested in your
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah. So on the 1st question, which is definitely easier. Always trying to look to make recommendations with the data.
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Toby Bridgeman: I think I sort of alluded that with them with Amanda while I'm asking Amanda's question. But
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Toby Bridgeman: yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't. We never wanted to stop up. Here's some data. And here's some statistics. It's always the like. So what what does that mean? And what should happen as a result of that, particularly if it's data around, you know.
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Toby Bridgeman: And the data identifies that problem. Sometimes the data will identify a solution, or they'll just be like A, you know, policy thing that's needed. So in the case of
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Toby Bridgeman: a warm homes campaign, the data identifies how many homes are below standard, and which mean people are struggling either to pay their bills or living in cold homes or both.
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Toby Bridgeman: And there's also data there on understanding how many homes could benefit from loft and cavity and solid wall installation.
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Toby Bridgeman: And so then the ask becomes, we need. We need a national installation program that's publicly funded that hits the coldest homes first.st And here's some stats to show you how much is needed to be done, and how much that will cost, and how much
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Toby Bridgeman: we think should be spent annually on that on that program. So you know that that's a kind of forms, a whole kind of ask. And then that becomes a big thing. We're getting
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Toby Bridgeman: a local campaigners to push their local Mps or representatives to ask for that policy. And and yeah, and the build up to the election is is quite interesting. And it's quite
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Toby Bridgeman: the new government can be influenced in the early days, probably more than they can in that, when when they're kind of been more established as a government. So
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Great.
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Toby Bridgeman: In terms of AI, that's all.
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Toby Bridgeman: And so the. So we are thinking about AI more broadly, and and how it can help with kind of
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yeah, I'm sure.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Well, thanks, thanks, thanks very much, Toby. So I've been involved in developing Gis systems for community led development before for a think Tank called shared assets, and we created a mapping application called land explorer.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: So to support.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: As I say, community led development. It was things on a national community Land trust network,
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: and making local woods work and neighborhood planning groups. And this kind of thing, Tristram, on the call is from parish online.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: which is a a paid for service for town and parish councils with loads of really helpful data in. And as the great collaboration we're like, we're publishing a variety of different data sets. So it's really fabulous to hear about your work. In terms in terms of AI. I am lucky enough to work be working with a woman called Carrie Lomas, who works at lectures at Oxford Side Business School.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: and she headed up Intel's Internet Things and machine Learning division for about 10 years. So there might be a fruitful conversation there to be able to put put some metrics in and have some machine learning actually spit out bunch of recommendations in terms of priorities for an area as well in terms of decarbonizing.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: I'm particularly interested in the Warm Homes campaign epc, data. We've got some Uk power network funding to go and provide energy efficiency advice, including sort of face to face meetings, home visits, this kind of thing, and I'm really keen that it doesn't end at that point, and we actually go and start to retrofit home. So understanding, you know, these kind of things is super important. You know, where we can make the biggest difference to our communities. I'm also parish councillor, so representative. And looking after our residents.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: I'm hoping that you can just that we can access these maps things like where the risk heat and flooding. Again, very relevant for community climate action planning. And we've got a little bit of funding from actually from a local resilience forum. Every county has a local local resilience forum, chaired by or organized by 1st responders. So police via paramedics. And what have you? And they're providing some funding because they're really interested in resilience.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: And actually, this particular bit of funding is from Sussex police looking at food, food, insecurity, and resilience. But I was particularly interested in seeing your heat, hero, heat and flooding, and the the amount of excess deaths we might see.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: I've got a couple of questions.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: One is the duplication of data in different data sets.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: So I've looked at your map with regards to renewable energy for potential community renewable energy sites for extra.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: There's also a separate data set called Irenez, that you might be familiar with. That's being used by great southeast net 0 hub Uk, power networks. And I think, Stefan made. We want wind with the Irenez data, and there is a difference. So as a as a user of of you know, both help with desktop feasibility studies before progressing to a community energy fund application.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: But I'm just sort of wondering about that difference. I mean, that's that's 1 question is which
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: which data should should we use? You may not? You may just say, well, they're both the best of it, I don't know. So that's my 1st question. The second is, I'm really fascinated by tree canopy layer using Lidar. And to what degree are you tapping also into? Perhaps citizen science? With regards to home home energy surveys or bio blitzes, river dipping and or tapping into commercial data sets from
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: service providers that are in particular looking at natural capital for farms and large landholders in particular, and that's with relevance to novel forms of income things like biodiversity net gains or carbon sequestration and meeting statual statute by diversity duties. So there's a
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: there's a bit of an arms race going on on there at the moment, using using quite a lot of AI actually, mostly satellite imagery. To do carbon, you know, carbon natural capital accounting and carbon data. So 2 2 questions there, citizen science and and you know which which kind of data set should we perhaps be looking at moving forward.
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah, then, yeah, the renewables and and duplications are another good ex good example of
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Toby Bridgeman: as is often the way. And then we published it, and quite soon after we published it and had a media store around it. We saw we want wind website, and we saw the irony data set as well.
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Toby Bridgeman: And then we ended up having seminar so inviting both the people representatives for all Stephan. And then.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: That's right. I was actually on the webinar.
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah. The webinar. Yeah.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: And also I've been dived in the conversation on the environment.
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I thought, you're familiar.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Pick up, stuff.
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Toby Bridgeman: That was another case of like, oh, okay, we're all doing this, and we didn't. No one was aware that we were doing it sort of similar but slightly different things. In that case, I think like we're more than happy to just like I mean, I was really impressed by Stefan's told me we want we. Nothing was incredible in case it feels like really.
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Toby Bridgeman: if we're going to keep working on this to support, we'd rather support him, do that than us to keep doing our thing and
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Toby Bridgeman: him doing his thing. I I that's it's they serve slightly different like purposes. Cause Otto was really sort of understanding the across the wider area. I think, like what what could happen in there
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Toby Bridgeman: His his is. We want wind.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: I'll pop a link in the chat, and for those that might not know.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: It is a very helpful application that make that lets you look at
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: where a suitable site for a wind turbine might be based on planning restrictions based on average wind speed, heritage sites. Ssis, from housing this kind of thing. I've I've already used it. Drop to PIN. Founder found a potential site contacted the landowner. The landowners amenable talk to the Parish council that kind of thing.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yeah, I'm.
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Toby Bridgeman: I think so. Where we overlap with that was the the sort of exclusion that heritage, the kind of constraints that we applied, very similar to here. So there's a case of
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Toby Bridgeman: and help, you know. So if if that's gonna evolve it will help him, and it'll help us.
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Toby Bridgeman: I think we said at the end of that meeting, we're more than happy to kind of put our resource into helping that that tool evolve.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Fantastic. That's
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: That sounds like a collaboration waiting to happen really, between the great collaboration, perhaps parish online. Stefan's already asked. And and perhaps you, Toby friends the earth, you know. Perhaps.
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah, yeah, definitely, yeah, more than happy
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Great collaboration. After all, one question I didn't ask is and actually something to sort of again might be missing from some of the published stuff we have.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: might come from our Dnos and from Uk power networks, for instance. And I think Tristram's got an upcoming meeting with Uk power networks. Having dropped the PIN
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: that might be suitable for wind turbine, and finding out who owns the land. I that's a bit of desktop feasibility work which brilliant evidence bases in Aoi to the community energy fund.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: What I don't yet understand. And I'm no expert. I'm I'm I'm
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: pretty good with
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: geospatial data. But I'm I'm I'm a steep learning curve on energy is connectivity to from the wind turbine. So where? What's the substation capacity? How do you connect the wind turbine to to the grid, and and that that kind of data. And I'm pretty sure Uk power networks have it.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: But I've I've really struggled to find it in a usable format in on their on their sort of local net. 0 hub data portal.
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Toby Bridgeman: I had exactly the same problem to be honest with that.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: It'll just be there. But.
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Toby Bridgeman: And I did manage to find
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Toby Bridgeman: the locations of their kind of primary substations
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Toby Bridgeman: I couldn't find, or, if I could, it was, seems to be a different format, the kind of capacity, grade capacity.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yeah.
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Toby Bridgeman: But mostly what we found with the grid capacity stuff was the grid is kind of that capacity in most places.
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Toby Bridgeman: so I think we were. We were kind of considering doing that on a map. Can we add great capacity and not and really the kind of evidence all just points to the fact that the grid needs massive investment any boosting, anyway. So
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Toby Bridgeman: if you know, if we're looking at kind of even doing, you know, fraction of kind of the areas that we suggest that map you. You're already looking at, needing significantly boosted grid. There are some areas which you close and you can connect to. But there was already says, like grids, that capacity or doesn't have much a headroom. So
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Toby Bridgeman: yeah, it's, I think, an element. You could do that analysis. But you, I think you'd come to the conclusion that well.
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Toby Bridgeman: most of this can't be connected. We just need a mass investment in the grid.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yeah, or look at or look at storage and smart.
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah, and storage. And you know.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Stuff. But I think, Yeah.
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Toby Bridgeman: So very.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Time, ppas, and all that kind of stuff. So.
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tristram cary: Think the other trouble with the with
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tristram cary: you can't just use data to analyze how quickly, how quickly, how long it will take to make a connection because there is a massive regulation. I've got a I've got a nephew who works in this area, and he said, it's just fun he talks to me about it. I have no idea what he's telling me. That it's there's, you know, it's really complicated, and you have to do you. There's
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tristram cary: endless regulations you have to go through and analysis you have to go through. So I think I think that data just doesn't exist in A, in a, in a simple form.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: I mean in terms of the time taken. Yes, is, I mean, but in terms of desktop feasibility at the data, does it? I've seen it on a on a Ukpn map.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: And actually, we're quite lucky in East Anglia is we've got is is it's mostly it has a traffic like, you know, green, amber red
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: and it's mostly green around East Anglia in terms of substation, capacity.
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Terms of in terms of headroom. But yes, that I mean, that just helps with the desktop feasibility, you know, should we? It might just rule it out. Because if it just says red, and it's no
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: yeah, there's no point, no point in looking at it. So it's sort of better data makes better informed decisions. You know.
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Toby Bridgeman: But then they are. But then the ask becomes, well, it's not. No, it's just. We need to do these other things which is invest in the grid. Well, you know, initially, and then it will be green. And we can do this because we do need to put more renewable energy in
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Toby Bridgeman: absolutely.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yeah, absolutely.
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah, you you had a question on so, citizen science, which is a good one. We we always, we always having conversations about this and like, how can we do it? Do more of it? And it's
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Toby Bridgeman: again. We've got quite small units. It's it's just really just 2 of us at the moment. So it's.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Hmm.
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Toby Bridgeman: This constant balance of like everything we'd love to do, and the realities of finite time. But
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Toby Bridgeman: we have done projects in the past before I was here. We did a air pollution kind of Citizen Science project where people had got the name of them, but they were kind of cheap tube sensors that they were collected over various parts of the country and fed that into some data. We've talked about doing water sampling, but I think it's
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Toby Bridgeman: can be really expensive. So again, it comes down to sort of fund finding, funding to do that.
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Toby Bridgeman: something I personally would love to do. I'd love to get a lot of
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Toby Bridgeman: water sampling stuff. But again, there are other organizations doing this sort of thing. So there are various local campaigns trying to get basing sites recommended. So it's again, it's it's a case of, do we initiate that? Or do we just try and link up and identify people doing it, and kind of support that as best we can, or promote doing so.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Okay, cool. Yeah, we do river dipping. We've done testing on our we've got, we sort of got. We've got, you know, community benefit society. We've got 10 acres of land in a pub, and the 10 acres of land joins the little Ouse, and we're right to the heart of the way, law, which is the wavening and little use recovery projects sponsored by natural England and defra this kind of thing engaging with farmers. So we've we're regularly testing our water. We've got other community groups like Hadley heat had. That's the Hadley Environmental action team. They are
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: doing the the with a Stour, I think, is it? Particularly, you know. And so there's quite a few bits of data for the Bible is going on, I think, organized by the Wildlife Trust, and there are some open source sites to upload results, too. So that might be really quite interesting in in particular, in terms of the in index of multiple environmental.
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Deprivation
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: and actually on a professional basis, working with regenerative agriculture and
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: farmers.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: we've developed some technology sas technology with in field senses for environmental monitoring. And then sas and AI analysis. And I'm kind of interested to explore that from a parish level.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: So each parish we now have a biodiversity duty
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: for all local authorities as of the statutory duty to consider our local nature based recovery strategies in things like considerations for planning. And what have you?
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: So we're looking at, perhaps, sort of sensor in a box kind of thing that would measure to indicate to species and and health and precipitation and stuff to be able to at at a price point cheap enough for a parish to just take on and move around times. You know that that might be another interesting collaboration that we could consider between the great collaboration, because we have an audience of town and parish councils with the Slcc, etc, say.
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah, that sounds brilliant.
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah, that sounds really good.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Exciting cool. I love these calls, so we're getting pretty much at one o'clock. So I'm I'm wondering who else might have a question.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: or who else would like to?
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: add anything before we leave.
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wendy thomson Glolucestershire: Just a quick, quick question you did mention, if that's possible. You did mention Toby about
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wendy thomson Glolucestershire: physical parties, and I just wondered, have. Has any particular party been working with you and asking for your data? And or is it not quite how it is.
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Toby Bridgeman: Not quite how it is. We we it's really important. We maintain kind of independence from political parties.
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Toby Bridgeman: So.
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wendy thomson Glolucestershire: Thinking more from them? Are they initiating and recognising
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wendy thomson Glolucestershire: all the important data that you've got.
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Toby Bridgeman: We got an angry phone call from labor, saying we'd misjudge the climate start my colleague. Mike did an initial kind of assessment of that less of environmental policies and scored labor. I think 51 out of 100. And they picked up phone and said.
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Toby Bridgeman: You've massively represented us. And I'm like well, but you should give manifesto, and we'll give you a better score next time. So there! So there will be some manifesto scoring coming out on like where the party stands on their environment. I think it's coming out next week.
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Toby Bridgeman: Do we work?
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Toby Bridgeman: I've not. I'm not aware of any direct.
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wendy thomson Glolucestershire: So they're just they're not being proactive in in
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wendy thomson Glolucestershire: looking at linking with using your data.
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wendy thomson Glolucestershire: Okay, it's all right.
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Toby Bridgeman: Not not that I'm aware of.
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Toby Bridgeman: but it's not so. It wouldn't happen in the future.
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Toby Bridgeman: I think it's.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Fingers crossed for an administration. We really interested in the data that make better informed on an environmental sorry index of multiple multiple environmental deprivation. Wouldn't that be cool? Wouldn't that be really cool? We could we support Toby's work and lobby on behalf of a join lobby and lobby on.
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: I hope for friends of the earth for this to be policy. So
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: any other passing comments? I just wanna say how fascinating. I found the the presentation from Toby.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Any other passing comments.
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wendy thomson Glolucestershire: No, just thank you very much again for your for your time and input
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wendy thomson Glolucestershire: and.
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Toby Bridgeman: Really no problem.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, because like.
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah, I'll sort of tie up the slides, and I'll just share them with Graham, and then I guess he can circulate them with everyone.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yeah, do you guys, do you have the link to that? We can actually look at the sort of a heating and flooding and.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay.
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Toby Bridgeman: yeah, I just wanted the best way of sharing it. Whether is it
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Toby Bridgeman: is that if I put it in an email that can be shared. Is that the best way, or is it I can put it in the chat now? There's the.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: If you pop it in the chat now, Toby, I'll be. I'll be saving the chat for.
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Toby Bridgeman: So good.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: As we generally do for future reference, we can circulate the link and slides
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: to everyone via email.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, that's not good.
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Amanda Davis, Cotswolds: Can I jump in and say how excited I am at the thought of this tie up
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Amanda Davis, Cotswolds: that we've just talked about, and that's exactly what these great Manta sessions and the great collaboration is all about.
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Amanda Davis, Cotswolds: And and that's why, you know, giving up an hour of your time every week at the same time it sounds quite onerous. But actually, I don't think there's a single person here who doesn't just look forward to it, and it's part of the reason for getting up in the morning. So Toby, Jules Tristan, and anybody else who was just part of that getting it together. Well done, and let's.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: What fantastic feedback! Thanks, Amanda.
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Toby Bridgeman: Yeah, thanks for enthusi.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Zoom room. Right?
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yeah. I think I think Graham so pinged off on and off mute. I'm not sure if Graham, you want to say anything before we depart.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, just to say Thank you so much for Toby to, particularly through struggling through after his dentist appointment. So I'm really impressed, and I think the information was invaluable absolutely tremendous, so, looking forward to more of it, thank you all so much.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: and thanks, Jules, for taking over.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yeah, my pleasure. And Toby, I look forward to further conversations on the environmental data network and see what we can do together. Moving forward.
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Toby Bridgeman: Send the link to that as well. Yeah.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yeah. And again, awesome. Thank you so much for whatever. What an amazing piece of work! And anything else you'd like to say.
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Toby Bridgeman: No other than thanks very much for having me and and for being so enthusiastic sometimes. You don't always get very such a receptive audience today. But it was it's nice to talk to people who really interested and enjoyed it. So yeah, thanks for having me.
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Toby Bridgeman: But maybe.
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tristram cary: Really.
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Stuart Withington Great Dunmow Essex: And it's good, but.
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tristram cary: Bye, bye, bye.
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Bonny Williams - Community Climate Action: That's okay.
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Joolz | Community Climate Action: Everyone have a great week, and we'll see you next time.
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Graham Stoddart-Stones: Take care!
