# Banter 63: 02Apr25 Manchester, first Carbon-Literate City?, Linda Foley {% embed url="" %} Linda's presentation {% endembed %} ### Video Timeline(min:sec): 00:00 - 29:20 Presentation 29:20 - 60:52 (end) Q\&A *** ### Presentation: {% file src="" %} Linda's slides {% endfile %} *** ### Meeting Summary: Apr 02, 2025 11:50 AM London ID: 834 5460 8536 The meeting covered various aspects of carbon literacy and climate action, with a focus on the Carbon Literacy project in Manchester and its potential for wider implementation. Linda Foley, a councillor and project worker, shared her experiences and insights on promoting environmental awareness and education, emphasizing the importance of collaboration among schools, businesses, and local governments. The discussion also touched on strategies for community engagement, the role of schools in climate education, and the potential impact of carbon literacy training on societal change. **Actions:** Andrew to explore carbon literacy training opportunities in Somerset, potentially connecting with the Wildlife Trust for support. Gary to consider using the free community leaders carbon literacy course for local authorities to train more community groups. Stuart to investigate implementing carbon literacy training in Essex, focusing on transport and active travel initiatives. Tristram to suggest to the Greening Campaign charity to look into carbon literacy training. Linda to forward information about carbon literacy training to Andrew via Graham. Linda to research and share information about carbon literacy initiatives in Somerset with Andrew. Linda to volunteer at a Stockport college in July to conduct carbon literacy training for environmental science A-level students.
**Linda Foley's Environmental Journey** Linda Foley, a councillor and part-time worker for the Carbon Literacy project, discussed her experiences as a politician and environmentalist in Manchester. She shared her personal "Oh, my God!" moment when reading George Monbiot's book "HEAT" in 2006, which led her to become more involved in environmental education. Linda also discussed her journey from being a secondary school head teacher to becoming a councillor, and how she found her "silver bullet" in carbon literacy. She emphasized the importance of understanding power and politics in changing policies, and how carbon literacy can be a key tool in scaling up responses to the climate crisis.
**Carbon Literacy Project's Impact and Expansion** Linda discussed the importance of addressing the climate emergency and the role of the Carbon Literacy project in promoting low carbon culture change. She highlighted the project's certification process and its impact on reducing emissions. Linda also shared the project's success in training 4,000 staff and elected members of Manchester City Council, making it a gold carbon literate organization. She emphasized the project's potential to inspire significant action in decarbonizing, citing the goal of certifying 87,000 people in Manchester by the end of 2027. Linda also mentioned the project's partnership with Auto Trader, an FT 100 business, and the addition of a new sector, digital and tech.
**Carbon Literacy Training for Schools** Linda discussed the development of a toolkit for schools to address climate change, potentially funded by the Department for Education. She emphasized the importance of the Carbon Literacy training, which includes a certification process and focuses on individual and collective action. Linda also introduced the Carbon Literate Educators Award, an accreditation that certifies schools taking action and engaging with their community. She encouraged the audience to promote the course within their councils and to consider the wider impact of their actions.
**Schools as Learning Organizations and Climate Action** Linda discussed the importance of schools as learning organizations and their role in the community. She highlighted the various stakeholders involved in schools, including staff, parents, and community organizations. Linda emphasized the benefits of schools adopting climate action, not only for educating young people but also as models for the wider community. She also mentioned the need for schools to provide young people with the tools and agency to make a difference in the climate emergency. Linda recommended exploring the website for more information on carbon literacy and its benefits.
**Carbon Literacy for Societal Change** Linda discussed the importance of carbon literacy in creating societal change. She emphasized the need for collaboration among various organizations, including schools, businesses, and councils, to spread awareness and influence behavior. Linda also highlighted the significance of reaching a tipping point in social movements, as seen in the abolitionists and suffragettes, to achieve significant change. She encouraged everyone to participate in the Carbon Literacy Action Day, which aims to train as many people as possible on that day. Linda concluded by sharing resources that offer hope and optimism for a better future, emphasizing that hope is an action rather than a passive feeling.
**Carbon Literacy Project's Global Impact** Linda discussed the origins and growth of the carbon literacy project in Manchester, which started with a group of individuals and gained momentum over time. The project was initially funded by Manchester City Council and later became mandatory for staff and elected members under the leadership of Councillor Bev Craig. Linda emphasized the importance of the values component of the training and the project's adaptability, noting its delivery in various locations worldwide. Graham expressed interest in applying the project's success to local council elections, highlighting the potential for widespread impact.
**Linda Offers Support and Resources** In the meeting, Graham encouraged participants to ask questions. Andrew, who is 81 and living in a small village, expressed his struggle in getting things moving in his community. Linda suggested that Andrew could link with the Lancashire Wildlife Trust and possibly do a joint event. She also mentioned that there are people in Somerset who are big supporters of their work. Andrew was open to any help and Linda offered to put him in touch with Laura from the Lancashire Wildlife Trust. Linda also mentioned that there is a free 90-minute course called "Delivering Successful Carbon Literacy" that Andrew could take. Lastly, Garry, who is certified in carbon literacy, shared his experience of training the council staff and youth workers in Scotland. He also mentioned that he tailors his training to his audience and uses local knowledge and data. Linda suggested that Garry could consider the course for community leaders, which is free for councils.
**Community Climate Action and Education** Linda discussed the creation of a community course in Manchester for free and the potential for further training beyond councillors. Garry shared his experience of giving talks on climate change to community groups. Councillor Stuart expressed interest in promoting active travel and asked about the impact of the B network in Manchester. Linda explained the benefits of the B network, including reduced costs and cleaner air, and emphasized the importance of knowledge in reducing emissions. She also discussed the need for schools to educate young people about climate change. Councillor Stuart expressed concern about the lack of school attendance at community climate action events. Linda suggested involving a climate officer or sustainability lead in schools to support climate education.
**Empowering Students for Climate Action** In the meeting, Linda and Tristram discussed the importance of empowering school students to take action on climate change. Linda shared her experience of speaking to a group of secondary school students who were inspired by the carbon literacy training and wanted to influence their parents' decisions. Tristram raised concerns about making children anxious about their individual actions, but Linda emphasized that the training is about understanding the importance of collective action. They also discussed the influence of school students on their parents' decisions and the need for a positive mobilization of people who understand the importance of climate action. Graham thanked Linda for her presentation and announced that the meeting's content would be published on the Wiki for those who missed it. \
*** *** ### Chat: 01:18:33 Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: Thanks, great session but have to go. \ 01:19:46 Kirsten Newble - Cambridge: Thank you very much. I'll be sending this to others. *** ### Speech-to-text: (for AI Search engine) 39\ 00:18:22.140 --> 00:18:37.260\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: Okay. Well, I think perhaps we should get going. Given the late arrivals all the time they're due. So let me invite Linda to introduce herself and to start talking, and I shall obediently pass on to each slide, as she instructs me 140\ 00:18:37.490 --> 00:18:45.039\ linda foley: Thank you very much, Graham. Can I just check so I can put a timer on so I don't over. How long do you want me to present for 141\ 00:18:45.310 --> 00:18:50.640\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: Usually it's somewhere between 15 and 25 min, but we're very loose on time. 142\ 00:18:50.640 --> 00:19:11.479\ linda foley: Okay. Well, I'll tell you what then I won't put the timer on, because that's great. But please interject if you want me to. So 1st of all, can I say a massive thank you for inviting me along to session to talk about something I'm very, very passionate about before I begin. Does anyone has anyone aware of carbon literacy on the call 143\ 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:14.320\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: Yes, I've got the certificate. 144\ 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:17.609\ linda foley: Well done. That's great, Stuart Stuart. 145\ 00:19:17.610 --> 00:19:18.240\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: Got to book. 146\ 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:24.019\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: Likewise, I think most people are familiar with it. Linda. We've got a member of the. 147\ 00:19:24.180 --> 00:19:32.396\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: A great collaboration board is, actually gives carbon literacy lessons in Dorset, fantastic or familiar. 148\ 00:19:33.470 --> 00:19:49.579\ linda foley: Right. Well, thank you very much. Everyone. I'm Councillor Linda Foley and I work part time now for the Carbon Literacy project, and Graham's very kindly invited me to come today to talk about my 149\ 00:19:49.810 --> 00:20:04.110\ linda foley: experiences in Manchester as a, as a politician, as an environmentalist, and why I believe that carbon literacy is a way of scaling up our response to the climate crisis. So thank you, Graham. 150\ 00:20:08.320 --> 00:20:11.409\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: And is that? Thank you. Meaning, go, decide the next slide 151\ 00:20:11.410 --> 00:20:12.260\ linda foley: Yes, please. 152\ 00:20:12.260 --> 00:20:13.030\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: Right. 153\ 00:20:13.500 --> 00:20:34.999\ linda foley: Thanks. So I don't know at what point. And everybody's on this call, because they care about the climate emergency. But I don't know at what point people had their oh, my God! Moment! And I remember mine vividly. I was reading this book by George Monbio, in 2,006. I was pregnant with my 3rd son. I was sat in 154\ 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:46.800\ linda foley: beautiful County Wexford, in Ireland, overlooking the sea, near my family, and I read this book, and I can remember turning to it was like the air chilled around me. 155\ 00:20:46.800 --> 00:21:12.710\ linda foley: and I remember turning to my husband and saying, This cannot be true, because the prognosis that George Monbio was set out in this book was so bleak for the future and the way that I responded, I've always loved the environment a level geography. I was a outdoor education for a year before I went into school teaching, and I've always taken my children on residential. 156\ 00:21:13.030 --> 00:21:18.889\ linda foley: and in 2,007 to 2,011. As deputy head of a secondary school, I 157\ 00:21:19.060 --> 00:21:26.090\ linda foley: I led the environment and land-based diploma for the whole of Bury, so we were very much 158\ 00:21:26.340 --> 00:21:37.909\ linda foley: involved in educating our young people at every level, preparing them for green skills. And we did that. And then, in 2011, David Cameron got elected Prime Minister and 159\ 00:21:38.080 --> 00:21:46.459\ linda foley: had a policy of cut the green crap, and unfortunately, all the work that we've been doing for the last 4 years stopped overnight. 160\ 00:21:47.550 --> 00:22:09.000\ linda foley: So that that was my experience. A bit of a disappointment. Felt like a bit of a setback. And then, in 2,012, I was doing, Doctor research at the University of Manchester. I've always worked in quite disadvantaged secondary schools, and I was looking at how I could most effectively use pupil premium funding to help my young people. 161\ 00:22:09.550 --> 00:22:14.440\ linda foley: And the more I looked into education, policy, and policy in general. 162\ 00:22:14.600 --> 00:22:30.120\ linda foley: I suddenly realized that it's all about power, and it's all about politics, and you can't change policies unless you're in power, and I suppose it radicalized me, and at the end of it I had my one year review with my doctoral tutor and said. 163\ 00:22:30.550 --> 00:22:37.370\ linda foley: God, I've just been so naive that politics is the way that you change things. And I then 164\ 00:22:37.500 --> 00:22:52.319\ linda foley: started getting involved in my local ward, and then I got involved in my local constituency as women's officer and environmental officer, and then eventually I was persuaded in 2019 to become a councillor. 165\ 00:22:53.160 --> 00:23:02.520\ linda foley: I actually went to the Labour Party Conference, and I was responsible with some other people for putting the green new deal motion through. 166\ 00:23:03.030 --> 00:23:10.530\ linda foley: So that was that in 2018, although I was a secondary head teacher, I was looking around 167\ 00:23:10.740 --> 00:23:13.649\ linda foley: for something that we could use in schools 168\ 00:23:13.940 --> 00:23:15.790\ linda foley: that would be a kind of 169\ 00:23:16.030 --> 00:23:41.120\ linda foley: an environmental action that we could share with young people. So I did a scoping exercise. I was. I actually started the Npqel, which is the professional qualification for executive leadership. And I said, Oh, I want to do environmental education across the whole school sector, and I'll be honest. They thought I was mad, because even in 2018 people were not widely aware of the climate emergency. 170\ 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:57.519\ linda foley: We then had student strikes in Manchester. I got selected as a counsellor, and I was scoping everywhere. What is out there that we can use in schools? I looked at United Nations courses. I looked at. Let's go. 0 green schools projects, everything that was out there I was looking at. 171\ 00:23:58.170 --> 00:24:07.790\ linda foley: and somebody said you should do carbon literacy. So I did my carbon literacy training, and for me, I felt I found my silver bullet. 172\ 00:24:08.780 --> 00:24:22.290\ linda foley: In 2022 I became deputy executive for the Environment at Manchester City Council, and I was able to promote a lot of carbon literacy, and I was working on what was called a Green school summit. 173\ 00:24:22.990 --> 00:24:25.160\ linda foley: and then in 2025 174\ 00:24:25.380 --> 00:24:41.809\ linda foley: that resulted in Manchester carbon Literate City, which I'll talk about a bit. We're about to launch in June the stools toolkit. And I want to explain a little bit about this scaling up and why it's important. Thank you, Graham. Could I have another slide? 175\ 00:24:42.470 --> 00:24:43.900\ linda foley: And I put this in 176\ 00:24:44.830 --> 00:24:58.719\ linda foley: because I think it's really important to remember how important this issue is. This is taken from Withington, which is just down the road in Manchester. We've got a regeneration scheme called Withington walls. 177\ 00:24:58.990 --> 00:25:03.350\ linda foley: But this particular piece of graffiti on a wall in Manchester. 178\ 00:25:03.470 --> 00:25:20.969\ linda foley: It just reminds me of all those things that make life worth living, music, art, theatre, friendship, families, holidays, lovely food, all those things that we will not have them in the future or the next generations won't have them unless we act. Now. 179\ 00:25:21.350 --> 00:25:22.560\ linda foley: Thank you, Graham. 180\ 00:25:23.650 --> 00:25:26.769\ linda foley: Okay, so a lot of you know what it is. 181\ 00:25:27.020 --> 00:25:46.070\ linda foley: So in one day, in 7 h, we take people through carbon Dipsy on a journey of this is the reality, and this is what you can do about it. And so it is about reducing emissions. But I think it's about something much more important. This is about hope. 182\ 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:55.640\ linda foley: So it gives people. It takes them away from despair, and it gives them an opportunity to do something about the climate emergency. 183\ 00:25:55.820 --> 00:26:07.290\ linda foley: Oh, thank you, Graham. So the Carbon literacy project is a very small charity. I say, it's very small, probably employ about 80 people. Now they're a nonprofit charity. 184\ 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:16.629\ linda foley: And it's about low carbon culture change. And we've got ft, 100 businesses and local authorities involved in that. And lots of community groups. 185\ 00:26:16.870 --> 00:26:37.060\ linda foley: We don't actually train people. What the carbon literary does is provide the materials. It does the certification, which is how they quality, assure the quality of training they credit courses, and they promote. They advocate for carbon literacy all over the world. Carbon literacy has been delivered in Antarctica. 186\ 00:26:37.210 --> 00:26:52.290\ linda foley: so it really has got a very widespread, and I think this is really powerful. At Cop 21, the United Nations awarded the Carbony Project, one of the 100 worldwide top 187\ 00:26:52.500 --> 00:26:55.530\ linda foley: transformative action programs. 188\ 00:26:56.080 --> 00:26:57.300\ linda foley: Thanks, Graham. 189\ 00:26:59.556 --> 00:27:02.470\ linda foley: So these are the figures we've got. 190\ 00:27:02.590 --> 00:27:31.100\ linda foley: It's actually 125,000 people. Now, I think Graham's going to share the slide. So I'm just going to quickly move over. And if you've got questions at the end, but I'd like to point you to that figure of 5 to 15% carbon savings per person. We know that's an underestimate. Because for many people, carbon literacy is just the start of their environmental journey. And I know that doesn't apply to people on this call. 191\ 00:27:31.300 --> 00:27:36.989\ linda foley: But I think the really important thing I feel is that it's a catalytic tool. 192\ 00:27:37.540 --> 00:27:50.869\ linda foley: And what we need in this country and throughout the world is we need enough people to understand the fact that we're in a climate emergency and start acting like it's a climate emergency. 193\ 00:27:50.940 --> 00:28:07.920\ linda foley: And I feel this particularly for the young people that I work with still in schools because it is their future. And when we look at the impact of 2 or 3 degrees by 2050. They're not going to be. They're going to be living in a very, very different world to us. 194\ 00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:10.509\ linda foley: Thank you, Graham. 195\ 00:28:12.270 --> 00:28:19.160\ linda foley: So at Manchester City Council we have trained 4,000 196\ 00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:26.709\ linda foley: of our staff and elected members. That's 50%. So we're a gold carbon literate organization. 197\ 00:28:27.930 --> 00:28:33.609\ linda foley: And Manchester City Council is quite unusual because we've got a science based 198\ 00:28:34.040 --> 00:28:41.210\ linda foley: carbon budget based on a Tyndall centre analysis. And we've committed to be 199\ 00:28:41.450 --> 00:28:45.839\ linda foley: carbon 0 by 2038. So only 13 years from now. 200\ 00:28:46.060 --> 00:28:54.070\ linda foley: So Manchester City Council is an outlier because they are actually at the moment within their carbon budget, been really tough. 201\ 00:28:54.590 --> 00:29:02.119\ linda foley: and I think the fact that carbon literacy is embedded into the culture throughout every level of the Council 202\ 00:29:03.310 --> 00:29:07.170\ linda foley: has been instrumental in helping us achieve 203\ 00:29:07.320 --> 00:29:10.350\ linda foley: that really impressive kind of milestone 204\ 00:29:10.840 --> 00:29:32.620\ linda foley: carbon literacy is now mandatory for any employee of Manchester City Council. It's part of onboarding. So within, I think it's 10 weeks of joining the Council. They have to have done their one day's carbon literacy training, and everybody does it. From Tom Stannard, the chief executive to every single role in the Council, whether it's parks. 205\ 00:29:32.930 --> 00:29:41.469\ linda foley: So what the question I asked was, well, if this works for an organization as big as Manchester City Council with 8,000 employees. 206\ 00:29:42.020 --> 00:29:46.079\ linda foley: Why would it not work for the whole city of Manchester? 207\ 00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:53.660\ linda foley: And so the localities idea, which is now being rolled out in several areas is that we can work together. 208\ 00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:58.470\ linda foley: And we can work across sectors. And we can build on our existing partnerships. 209\ 00:29:59.320 --> 00:30:08.820\ linda foley: And we have set ourselves a goal that by the end of 2027 we will have certified as carbon. Literate. 210\ 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.479\ linda foley: 87,000 people in Manchester. 211\ 00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:35.339\ linda foley: and we set that target last October, and in December the greater Manchester combined authority launched their 5 Year Environmental Plan, and they've included a target of 15% of greater Manchester to be certified carbon literate by 2030, which is over 400,000 people. 212\ 00:30:35.560 --> 00:30:51.900\ linda foley: And why that matters. It's not about bragging about the organization. Why, that matters is that you will have then, a significant minority of the population who are committed to taking serious action to decarbonize. 213\ 00:30:53.290 --> 00:30:54.430\ linda foley: Thanks, Graham. 214\ 00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:58.430\ linda foley: So these are the sectors which currently 215\ 00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:11.599\ linda foley: the Carbon Literacy project works within one of our key partners is auto trader. We're ft 100 business, and they were very early adopters of this, and they have 216\ 00:31:11.810 --> 00:31:18.929\ linda foley: they just sponsored, actually sorry. There is a new sector, the digital and tech sector toolkit. 217\ 00:31:19.050 --> 00:31:36.090\ linda foley: So you will have done. I assume most of you will have been trained through the local authorities, and that that became really successful because the department that is now Desnes actually funded that free, that toolkit and made it free to local authorities. 218\ 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:46.799\ linda foley: What we're hoping is that currently, education is mainly universities all over the world, and we are now creating a toolkit that will be used in schools. 219\ 00:31:46.970 --> 00:31:56.809\ linda foley: And what we're hoping is that the Department for Education might make that toolkit free for schools which again will have the same impact as the local authorities. Toolkit. 220\ 00:31:57.890 --> 00:31:59.050\ linda foley: Thanks, Graham. 221\ 00:32:00.250 --> 00:32:03.239\ linda foley: Okay, so I'll be very brief on this 222\ 00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:13.689\ linda foley: for those of you that have done carbon Lipsy training. It's 7 h. It can be broken up over 2 sessions or one session, some of it online, some of it in person. 223\ 00:32:13.830 --> 00:32:21.100\ linda foley: You get the knowledge, you get the reality, the facts. This is the science, and these are the impacts. And this is the future. 224\ 00:32:22.510 --> 00:32:42.420\ linda foley: But it's very engaging learning, and I am a trainer as well. And the most important thing which sometimes people forget is you are not actually certified as carbon literate until you've filled in your evidence form. And you've talked about what you're going to do as an individual, and what you're going to do as a group. 225\ 00:32:42.790 --> 00:32:49.810\ linda foley: But for me, the most important thing about carbon literacy are the values that it's about hope 226\ 00:32:50.150 --> 00:32:51.400\ linda foley: that it's about 227\ 00:32:51.740 --> 00:33:09.339\ linda foley: showing what an individual how no one is too small to make a difference. That was the title of Greta's book that nobody is too small to make a difference, and that we all must work together, and it's got to be fair, and it's got to be equitable. I get young people saying to me. 228\ 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:18.950\ linda foley: but you've had your life. You've traveled, you know. How. How can you sort of suggest that perhaps we should fly less when you've done all these things. And I think that's really fair. 229\ 00:33:19.678 --> 00:33:26.370\ linda foley: I wasn't aware, really, I suppose, until I read that book in 2,006 of what 230\ 00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:30.130\ linda foley: what we were actually living through. And I think that's true of a lot of people. 231\ 00:33:30.430 --> 00:33:37.350\ linda foley: I think, for a lot of us. It has been a recent thing. So for me, the value that carbon literacy about is about hope. 232\ 00:33:38.670 --> 00:33:39.819\ linda foley: Thanks, Graham. 233\ 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:48.140\ linda foley: So we are creating this school staff course, and I would love it if, having 234\ 00:33:48.550 --> 00:33:59.679\ linda foley: having listened to this presentation that you went away, you looked on the website, and you found out more about this course, and that you tried to promote it within your own councils. 235\ 00:34:00.330 --> 00:34:10.609\ linda foley: There is actually an expectation, by probably the end of 2025. Now that all schools will have a climate change action plan, and this course would help them do that. 236\ 00:34:10.909 --> 00:34:38.880\ linda foley: But more than that, it demonstrates to your community, to your students, to your staff, to the wider community that you really care about climate action. And so we've developed this carbon literature educators award. And it really will make a difference, not just in your community, but it will make a difference to your wider community as well, because the thing about carbon Literacy. It's 237\ 00:34:39.040 --> 00:34:40.190\ linda foley: catalytic. 238\ 00:34:40.409 --> 00:34:47.529\ linda foley: It's like lighting a little fire. It sets off little sparks in people, and then people go on and they share it with other people. 239\ 00:34:48.449 --> 00:34:49.580\ linda foley: Thanks, Graham. 240\ 00:34:50.670 --> 00:34:52.349\ linda foley: So this is the award. 241\ 00:34:52.489 --> 00:35:06.660\ linda foley: It's an accreditation. Schools love awards. I know that from being a head teacher, and it's called a Clee, and you can see the little kind of academic hat there, and it certifies that you're taking action. Not just in your school. 242\ 00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:14.180\ linda foley: but you're engaging with your sphere of influence next slide, please, Graham. 243\ 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:36.919\ linda foley: So spheres of influence. So schools are really interesting. They're learning organizations. So you've got your students. You've got your staff, and you've got. When I say, Staff, it's not just the governors and school leaders. You've got your ground staff. You've got your kitchen staff. You've got your teaching staff. You've got the person who 244\ 00:35:37.450 --> 00:35:38.960\ linda foley: holds the 245\ 00:35:39.610 --> 00:35:45.780\ linda foley: lollipop up at the end of the road. So there's a whole community of people involved with schools. 246\ 00:35:46.150 --> 00:36:08.750\ linda foley: You've then got your stakeholders, the community organizations linked to the school. So I'm also trustee of a food bank. We work really, really closely with the schools in our areas. And that's often how we manage to support parents, and we get them to come to us is through that trusted link with the school. They will say right? Well, the 25 247\ 00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:09.910\ linda foley: most 248\ 00:36:10.020 --> 00:36:39.260\ linda foley: needy parents are these 25 parents. And then we provide what we call these holiday packs for those parents. We give them extra food to help support them over the summer holidays, when the children aren't having like free school meals. So you've got your stakeholders. You've got estates. So it's a really big part of local authority. Emissions are their school buildings or their nursery buildings. And so anything that we can do 249\ 00:36:39.270 --> 00:36:46.690\ linda foley: to help the schools. It has co-benefits. 1st of all, it saves the schools money on energy costs 250\ 00:36:46.820 --> 00:37:05.680\ linda foley: right? It also models for young people that we can use solar panels, and it can do all these things. And also there's a lot about biodiversity involved in school estates. So many of you will be involved in eco schools or forest schools, and these are all part of the extracurricular learning experiences. 251\ 00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:09.640\ linda foley: But I think the most powerful thing is that schools are like 252\ 00:37:09.690 --> 00:37:34.770\ linda foley: they're like trees in a forest that their influence goes really wide. So if you're anything about kind of like the Wood Wide Web, they're like the mycelium. They link to all these other organizations, and because they are trusted, they are trusted institutions. People feel very invested in them, and they have great affection for them. So I think, for a school 253\ 00:37:34.810 --> 00:37:47.519\ linda foley: to spread the news about climate action. It has so many co-benefits. It's not just about educating young people it's about. They are models for the rest of our community. 254\ 00:37:48.370 --> 00:37:49.550\ linda foley: Thanks, Graham. 255\ 00:37:50.770 --> 00:37:59.659\ linda foley: right? I'm not going to go through this in massive detail, but I've given you there a kind of a simple like, Step guide of 256\ 00:37:59.780 --> 00:38:07.760\ linda foley: how to get involved in carbon literacy. I would recommend you. Look at our website. There's loads of really useful information in there. 257\ 00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:11.100\ linda foley: But I'm going to mention point 10. 258\ 00:38:12.020 --> 00:38:20.870\ linda foley: This was Frederick Douglass who said this, he said, it is better to create strong children than repair broken people. 259\ 00:38:21.420 --> 00:38:29.809\ linda foley: and when I go into schools, and when I speak to governors and school leaders and sometimes parents. 260\ 00:38:30.310 --> 00:38:41.539\ linda foley: they're very, very keen for the school to be environmental, but some of them are a bit reticent about actually sharing the scientific knowledge that young people need to have. 261\ 00:38:41.680 --> 00:38:47.739\ linda foley: and I understand why they're frightened about triggering climate anxiety. 262\ 00:38:48.120 --> 00:38:55.629\ linda foley: And I think that's that's a really genuine fear. And what I say to them is all the research points to psychological alliance. 263\ 00:38:55.900 --> 00:39:06.129\ linda foley: All the research points is that the way you take away anxiety is by giving young people agency. 264\ 00:39:06.330 --> 00:39:23.170\ linda foley: by giving them the tools that they know what they can do to make a difference, and that is actually incredibly powerful. And that's been proven. There was a survey done by the Royal Meteorological Society, and it was published just before Christmas of school leavers. 265\ 00:39:23.750 --> 00:39:28.029\ linda foley: and it was actually really shocking because it it highlighted. 266\ 00:39:28.230 --> 00:39:34.020\ linda foley: What a mixed bag they are learning in schools because there isn't a curriculum for this. 267\ 00:39:34.380 --> 00:39:43.449\ linda foley: and the thing that was really sad for me that stood out was that a lot of young people leaving school at 16 or 18 268\ 00:39:44.010 --> 00:40:02.220\ linda foley: don't realize that what we do now and what they do now can actually make any difference. There's a lot of kind of doomism out there and gloomism out there that they just think, well, the world's the way it is, and we can't do anything to change it. So I think it's really really important 269\ 00:40:02.490 --> 00:40:05.550\ linda foley: for me. Carbon literacy is about giving 270\ 00:40:06.030 --> 00:40:15.770\ linda foley: children adults and communities hope and the tools to respond to the climate emergency before it's too late to be honest. 271\ 00:40:16.830 --> 00:40:18.000\ linda foley: Thanks, Graham. 272\ 00:40:18.770 --> 00:40:30.330\ linda foley: Okay, I don't know if anyone's read this book. It's not about the climate emergency. It's about social contagion. And it was written by Malcolm Gladwell. Fantastic book, read it years ago, reread it recently. 273\ 00:40:31.220 --> 00:40:37.850\ linda foley: and it's about little things can make a big difference, and it talks about lots of examples in society, of 274\ 00:40:38.310 --> 00:40:41.419\ linda foley: things that suddenly take off. 275\ 00:40:41.690 --> 00:40:47.850\ linda foley: And a match is an appropriate symbol for this. Because what we're trying to do 276\ 00:40:47.980 --> 00:41:03.559\ linda foley: with carbon literacy across, for example, Manchester is we're trying to match up lots of different organizations. We're using our kind of influencing power as a council, and we're using our modelling power as a council 277\ 00:41:04.010 --> 00:41:08.820\ linda foley: to spread this idea. And what we're hoping is that it kind of saturates. 278\ 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:21.020\ linda foley: It saturates the community. So people are hearing about it in their businesses and in their schools they're hearing about in their churches they're hearing about in their councils. They're hearing about it in their political organizations. 279\ 00:41:21.160 --> 00:41:23.689\ linda foley: And what we'll get is a tipping point. 280\ 00:41:23.830 --> 00:41:31.179\ linda foley: And why that's important is, if you read the climate book, which is kind of brought together by Greta Thunberg. 281\ 00:41:31.550 --> 00:41:37.299\ linda foley: there is an American academic. She's called Erica Chenoweth. She's at Harvard. 282\ 00:41:37.570 --> 00:41:40.710\ linda foley: and she said that social movements 283\ 00:41:41.050 --> 00:42:01.459\ linda foley: for to have considerable social change. Okay, you think about the abolitionists. I mentioned Frederick Douglass. So who were those brave individuals who managed to get rid of the slave trade? Who were those brave Suffragettes right? Emily Pankhurst's house is literally half a mile away from here. 284\ 00:42:02.860 --> 00:42:16.329\ linda foley: and what happens is you need to reach you need to get support about 25% of the population. A significant majority to really see social change. 285\ 00:42:16.570 --> 00:42:29.159\ linda foley: And I think the positive thing is that I have seen since 2,006. I've seen a groundswell of understanding about climate change and changes in policies. 286\ 00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:39.630\ linda foley: but we're not quite yet there yet. And so for me, the carbon literacy is a way in which we can cascade. This learning 287\ 00:42:39.980 --> 00:42:54.950\ linda foley: cascade, this action link up with other activist groups. And we can actually change society. And I'm part of a group called Uk 100. I don't know if anyone else here has heard of them. They're a cross party political group 288\ 00:42:55.100 --> 00:42:58.330\ linda foley: who are who work together 289\ 00:42:58.530 --> 00:43:09.730\ linda foley: across all of the political parties to bring about climate action. And so the tipping point is really important. And what I'm trying to say to you is. 290\ 00:43:09.990 --> 00:43:20.549\ linda foley: we talk about great collaboration. Well, great collaboration. If we all work together, and we use the tools that are out there, we can make a significant 291\ 00:43:21.460 --> 00:43:33.369\ linda foley: difference in time to avoid the other tipping points which are the negative ones. You know the polar ice caps melting, for example, and sea rise happening. So all those things. 292\ 00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:42.330\ linda foley: every single thing we do every bit of carbon we stop getting into the atmosphere. Every little thing that we do 293\ 00:43:42.940 --> 00:43:46.509\ linda foley: helps make the future better for our young people. 294\ 00:43:47.200 --> 00:43:48.330\ linda foley: Thanks, Graham. 295\ 00:43:49.580 --> 00:43:50.520\ linda foley: Okay? 296\ 00:43:50.750 --> 00:44:17.280\ linda foley: So every year, this is this, if you Google, this very interesting and the carbon Literacy Action Day, it's only been going about 5 years, is actually hailed as the biggest climate, education, action, event in the whole world, which I find really interesting. And for the last 5 years it's happened to coincide with the conference of the parties with cop, and this year, cop 30 is in Belm, in Brazil. 297\ 00:44:18.050 --> 00:44:28.990\ linda foley: So what? We ask people who are whether you're a council, whether you're a school, whether you're a business. We ask as many people to be trained on that day, and last year. 298\ 00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:48.710\ linda foley: clad last November, was endorsed by Ed Miliband. He was the kind of lead speaker on it, and he's a big supporter of the Carbon Literacy project this year in Manchester. We're trying to get all those organizations that are working with us, and hopefully, many of our schools 299\ 00:44:48.830 --> 00:45:09.020\ linda foley: to be trained as part of the carbon literacy action day. So if if that sparks something in your mind, or I could do something in our local authority, or I could do something in a school, or I could do something, or I could encourage people to do it. Please go and have a look and sign up for it, because that would be really wonderful. Thanks, Graham. 300\ 00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:16.979\ linda foley: and I'm going to end on a really really positive note. Every few months 301\ 00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:37.489\ linda foley: I have to take a few days off. I have to switch off my phone switch off my laptop and I go up to the Lake district and I go walking. Okay, because I suffer from a climate grief. I would call it. It's not anxiety, it's grief. And so I always like to end by sharing 302\ 00:45:38.070 --> 00:45:41.210\ linda foley: things that I suppose. Give me hope. 303\ 00:45:41.510 --> 00:45:56.510\ linda foley: This is a book. Christiana Fugueres was part of the Paris Climate Agreement. Her and Tom Rivet Karnak, and they've written a book, that is, I find it really hopeful. It's 304\ 00:45:58.090 --> 00:46:16.590\ linda foley: the David Attenborough book. My Life on this Planet, I find really bleak, and I love David Attenborough, but I do find his documentaries on climate crisis and his book a bit depressing to be blunt. This book it's like one chapter presents worst case scenario. 305\ 00:46:16.770 --> 00:46:19.370\ linda foley: And then the next chapter 306\ 00:46:19.770 --> 00:46:33.000\ linda foley: presents this fantastic future, where all the co-benefits of cleaner, greener, healthier, fairer community. And it's really, really exhilarating to think 307\ 00:46:33.290 --> 00:46:35.829\ linda foley: because we're in this crisis. 308\ 00:46:35.950 --> 00:46:59.780\ linda foley: Crises are also opportunities to make things better, to have cleaner air, to have more greenery, to have more biodiversity to change our cities. And actually, some of these things are happening in parts of the world, and some of these things are happening in places like Manchester and in your own communities. So I would really recommend. If you haven't read this book, it's a really one. And I give it to lots of people as gifts. 309\ 00:46:59.960 --> 00:47:21.950\ linda foley: And on the other hand, there is a podcast if you like podcasts, I find this one really, really supportive. It's called outrage and optimism. The same people, Paul Dickinson as well. And it's just fantastic. So I would like to share those with you because I find them very hopeful, Graham. 310\ 00:47:23.850 --> 00:47:26.480\ linda foley: and I'm going to end on this 311\ 00:47:26.610 --> 00:47:30.770\ linda foley: which comes from Rebecca Solnit. It's a quote in that book. 312\ 00:47:31.935 --> 00:47:33.659\ linda foley: And for me. 313\ 00:47:34.010 --> 00:47:40.560\ linda foley: hope it's not a lottery ticket that you can sit on the sofa and clutch feeling lucky. Okay. 314\ 00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:49.560\ linda foley: hope is is an action. It's an axe with which you break down doors in an emergency. 315\ 00:47:49.860 --> 00:48:11.380\ linda foley: And so my passion for climate action, my passion for young people, my passion for carbon literacy, is because for me, carbon literacy is the axe which we can break down doors in emergency. So thank you very much, all of you, for listening, and I'm very happy to 316\ 00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:13.890\ linda foley: answer any questions. If anyone's got any 317\ 00:48:15.130 --> 00:48:26.860\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: That was fabulous, Linda. Thank you very much. You used the phrase in there of climate anxiety which reminds me of a presentation we had about this time last year 318\ 00:48:26.930 --> 00:48:39.149\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: from a young teacher who was teaching us how to cope with climate anxiety in children, teaching them to get involved without being petrified. So it's nice to see that progress is being made. 319\ 00:48:39.160 --> 00:48:57.920\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: and I'm sure everyone we were delighted to know. How do you get the ball rolling in your council to get people on side with your carbon literacy projects. I mean the numbers you produced about Manchester are mind boggling. But what a success story. But you must have started somewhere 320\ 00:48:58.940 --> 00:49:11.239\ linda foley: Yes. Well, we started by funding the project. So it was started off by a group of individuals. It came out of a little project. It's quite a long time ago. It was. Probably 321\ 00:49:11.580 --> 00:49:20.970\ linda foley: it's over 10 years ago now, and we brought together. It was Richard Lease, actually, who was the leader of the Council. He brought together some individuals 322\ 00:49:20.970 --> 00:49:43.279\ linda foley: really interesting background one's got. He's a finance consultant. The other one worked for the BBC. He works in broadcasting and a group of friends of the Earth people. And they got together. And they wrote this kind of plan a certain future, and they said, Well, what we really need is like a day's course that we can put people through. And when I did my training, which was in 2019 323\ 00:49:43.860 --> 00:49:46.900\ linda foley: I was, I think, the 11,000th person. 324\ 00:49:47.970 --> 00:50:01.369\ linda foley: and we're now on 125,000 people. So we've had that kind of hockey stick exponential rise. But Manchester. So Manchester City Council funded the project initially. There were early adopters. 325\ 00:50:01.610 --> 00:50:16.749\ linda foley: but when I was elected as deputy executive in about 2022, my role. I'm going to be really blunt here. You're all kind of you know what I'm talking about. My role was to nag elected members to do the training because it was voluntary at that point. 326\ 00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:45.420\ linda foley: And so every single Friday I used to email everybody who hadn't done it and say, I'll help you. I'll sit down with you. I'll train you once. One I once did training for 3 people on a Sunday, because they kept saying, can't get the time off work can't get time off work, can't tell the work. So I said, Okay, so I got a room in the town hall, and I trained 3 people on a Sunday, so I was just determined if that was my job. And then we got a new leader, Councillor Bev. Craig. Some of you may have heard of Bev. Very, very young. She's only 327\ 00:50:45.600 --> 00:50:52.030\ linda foley: just turned 40, I think so. She was very young to be leader of such a large council. 328\ 00:50:52.420 --> 00:51:18.019\ linda foley: She believed in carbon literacy, and when she was elected, one of the 1st things she said was right. Now this is going to be mandatory, because we were seeing the impact. Like, for example, in planning right? So they appointed somebody just to help them look at the environmental impact of planning highways came up with some brilliant ideas. I think the thing that Bev realized she's really sharp and clever. 329\ 00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:29.239\ linda foley: Was that what the Carbonypsy training did in teams? Was it unleashed this creativity? So people were coming up with these really innovative ideas. 330\ 00:51:29.590 --> 00:51:55.500\ linda foley: But it's not fair just to talk about Manchester, because I know that Warrington have done absolutely amazing work. And they're now working with Smes. They got innovation funding. I'm working with Argyle and the islands now. They're not a local authority. They're a community group in a rural area. So what you see is that people adapt it for different communities. This has been delivered in the Maasai Mara. 331\ 00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:13.500\ linda foley: you know seriously, it's been delivered in the Antarctic. So it is incredibly adaptable. It's really just about knowledge, teaching method, actions and values. And I think actually, the values. Part of it is the most important one. 332\ 00:52:13.680 --> 00:52:36.049\ linda foley: So once Bev had made carbon dipsy training for staff and elected members mandatory, and the 1st thing she did was, she said to me, Can you make sure all the senior leaders get trained up? So they were all the people over 150,000 pounds within the council. So you know, however many, there were quite a lot. Actually. 333\ 00:52:36.080 --> 00:53:02.540\ linda foley: So I was thinking, I'm gonna have to go to each individual directorate and talk about these people, and she said, No, no. Have a meeting with Suzanne. She's our head of Hrod, human resources, organization, development. She just put in all their diaries, so nobody could say, I'm too busy. She just said, well, you've got to do it. This has come from the leader, so everybody had to do it, and that changed, it became mandatory, and then it was being 334\ 00:53:02.630 --> 00:53:05.910\ linda foley: lead, if you like, from the top as well as 335\ 00:53:06.060 --> 00:53:10.430\ linda foley: bottom up. It was. It was coming from both directions. If that makes sense 336\ 00:53:12.260 --> 00:53:27.840\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: Well, I think your timing is immaculate because we're going for local council elections at the moment, and I'm sure we can persuade a bunch of new chairmen to make it mandatory for the council members to get carbon literacy training. Because, this is. 337\ 00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:47.349\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: I'm very convinced that, as you say, once you get the ball rolling it'll just pick up like a snowball, and I've yet to find any politician who can resist the momentum of tens of thousands of voters saying, This is what we need to do, no matter what you want, no matter what you think we have to do. 338\ 00:53:47.610 --> 00:53:59.719\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: And so you know your numbers are. You've got 500,000 people in Manchester, and you multiply that up by a couple of 1 million around the rest of the world. And suddenly, you've got a force that's really going to be reckoned with. 339\ 00:54:00.224 --> 00:54:08.079\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: Great stuff. Great stuff! I'm sure there are other people who've got questions. If you'd like to pitch in. Now is the time, please? 340\ 00:54:11.230 --> 00:54:15.159\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: No, go on. There must be lots of people dying to talk to us. 341\ 00:54:18.300 --> 00:54:19.910\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: Come on, Andrew. Well done. 342\ 00:54:21.110 --> 00:54:21.670\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: Yeah. 343\ 00:54:26.928 --> 00:54:28.721\ Andrew Clegg. Martock. Somerset: Thank you very much. 344\ 00:54:29.420 --> 00:54:46.000\ Andrew Clegg. Martock. Somerset: but I'm struggling, living in a place like Martok, where there's me and another bloke. That's sort of running all this thing, and and I'm the young one, and I'm 81. I don't know. You know we are this year 345\ 00:54:46.140 --> 00:55:07.109\ Andrew Clegg. Martock. Somerset: trying, with the help of the Wildlife Trust, trying to get this this kind of thing moving in the village. But at the moment I'm not quite sure where to start. I know that what we have to do is to have something to start things off at the annual parish meeting in May, but I don't know what yet 346\ 00:55:07.380 --> 00:55:25.219\ linda foley: Andrew, can I point out? Because the Lancashire Wildlife Trust they've got Laura there. She's actually a trainer, and she is absolutely passionate. Obviously she's passionate about wildlife, but she's absolutely passionate about delivering. 347\ 00:55:25.380 --> 00:55:37.000\ linda foley: delivering carbon Lipsy training. So she's become a trainer. So I think, perhaps link with your Wildlife Trust, and you could do like a joint event. 348\ 00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:38.620\ linda foley: So 349\ 00:55:38.620 --> 00:55:39.210\ Andrew Clegg. Martock. Somerset: Yeah. 350\ 00:55:39.210 --> 00:55:59.000\ linda foley: I can forward. If you email me, you'll have my details via I should have put it on a slide. Actually, via Graham. I can put you in touch with Laura because she's doing absolutely amazing work in Lancashire. She's a real advocate for it. And I think that's the really interesting thing is that you have people in. 351\ 00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:10.099\ linda foley: We've got people in lots and lots of Patagonia are really big supporters of ours, their partners working with us. They provided our kind of if you go onto our website and you look for 352\ 00:56:10.100 --> 00:56:23.929\ linda foley: training opportunities nearby, right? They've provided the platform for us to do that. So there's lots of groups out there partnership groups. I'm just trying to think in terms of Somerset. I know that 353\ 00:56:24.660 --> 00:56:32.630\ linda foley: the Prince of Wales's sort of rural land manager adopted carbon literacy. So I think they're a carbon 354\ 00:56:32.630 --> 00:56:33.490\ Andrew Clegg. Martock. Somerset: Oh, really 355\ 00:56:33.820 --> 00:56:45.730\ linda foley: Yeah. So it's happening in lots of different sectors in different ways. One thing that I could perhaps do is have a look at what else is going in Somerset? If you send me an email 356\ 00:56:46.130 --> 00:56:46.650\ linda foley: and 357\ 00:56:46.650 --> 00:56:59.219\ Andrew Clegg. Martock. Somerset: I've got some ideas of what's going on. It's just translating that, you know, to a little village hall to get things moving among a small population 358\ 00:56:59.220 --> 00:57:02.870\ linda foley: So in terms of local authorities. 359\ 00:57:03.070 --> 00:57:17.730\ linda foley: and I don't know if this applies parish councils, but they created a course which is free to local authorities. So which is called the community leaders course. And it's 360\ 00:57:18.520 --> 00:57:24.350\ linda foley: and it's it's free to access. If you're already a local authority which does carbon literacy 361\ 00:57:26.310 --> 00:57:34.290\ Andrew Clegg. Martock. Somerset: Yeah, okay, no, thank you very much, Linda. That's you know. Any any help? Welcome? 362\ 00:57:34.900 --> 00:57:42.870\ linda foley: No, no, absolutely. And there's also a community part as well. So if probably, you know, paying for certification is an issue, then there is a community part 363\ 00:57:42.870 --> 00:57:43.950\ Andrew Clegg. Martock. Somerset: Oh, okay. 364\ 00:57:45.130 --> 00:58:06.549\ linda foley: I'm not sure the criteria for that. That's not my bag, but but yeah, there are ways of doing it. One of my schools is becoming a carbon literature educator in my ward. In fact, I'm doing the pilots at their school, and when I was a school improvement consultant I did some work in their school, so they kind of know me, and trust me if that makes sense. 365\ 00:58:06.680 --> 00:58:16.899\ linda foley: And there we've got this fund in Manchester for wards. It's called a Neighbourhood investment Fund. It's only a small part of money, and then local community groups and schools can apply for it. 366\ 00:58:17.130 --> 00:58:25.589\ linda foley: So they're going to put in a bid, I think, for about 2,000 pounds to become the carbon literature educator award, and to pay for some certification 367\ 00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:37.759\ Andrew Clegg. Martock. Somerset: Okay. I know that we do have access to little pots of money. I'm beginning to realize that now. But it's a question of organizing things, and getting them going. 368\ 00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:38.270\ linda foley: Yeah. 369\ 00:58:38.270 --> 00:58:39.050\ Andrew Clegg. Martock. Somerset: But anyway. 370\ 00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:47.270\ linda foley: Yeah. But I think, Andrew, just listening to you now, you'd obviously be a very confident trainer yourself. If you're currently trained, you can become a trainer 371\ 00:58:47.460 --> 00:58:51.638\ Andrew Clegg. Martock. Somerset: I I was a schoolteacher for a long time, and I've written textbooks 372\ 00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:56.270\ linda foley: There you go. There you go. So transferable skills 373\ 00:58:56.270 --> 00:58:57.010\ Andrew Clegg. Martock. Somerset: Yeah. 374\ 00:58:57.010 --> 00:59:07.560\ linda foley: If you have a look at that slide. When Graham sent it out, there is a free, 90 min course called delivering successful carbon Literacy. So if you're trained, you just do that course. 375\ 00:59:07.780 --> 00:59:12.729\ linda foley: And there's loads of people within the Carbon A/C project who can support you 376\ 00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:13.550\ Andrew Clegg. Martock. Somerset: Yeah. 377\ 00:59:13.550 --> 00:59:17.280\ linda foley: And you've got you'll get my details. So please contact me if I can. 378\ 00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:18.620\ Andrew Clegg. Martock. Somerset: Not very much. Yeah. 379\ 00:59:19.130 --> 00:59:19.640\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: Thank you. 380\ 00:59:19.640 --> 00:59:23.469\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: Let's move from Somerset to Wiltshire and go to Gary. Please 381\ 00:59:29.140 --> 00:59:30.200\ linda foley: Hi Gary. 382\ 00:59:33.530 --> 00:59:35.639\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: We're not hearing you yet. Gary. 383\ 00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:43.690\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: so far so good, so far, not so good. 384\ 00:59:45.010 --> 00:59:45.490\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: New 385\ 00:59:45.490 --> 00:59:46.139\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: In, better. 386\ 00:59:46.450 --> 00:59:48.440\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: That it's funny you just arrived. Yes. 387\ 00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:53.409\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Yeah, I I sometimes have to unplug it and plug it back in for some reason to make it work. But there you go. 388\ 00:59:54.021 --> 01:00:09.939\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Linda, on your schools of influence slide. I was just wondering if maybe you could include travel on that, because travel for schools is a big issue, and they can have a big impact on local travel behaviors and local travel kind of infrastructure in and around schools 389\ 01:00:09.940 --> 01:00:20.499\ linda foley: Absolutely no. That's a really good point. Actually, yeah, we do a lot of work within Manchester on that, with active travel maps and so on and so forth. So, yeah, thanks. Gary, so, Gary, you come literature certified 390\ 01:00:21.100 --> 01:00:22.640\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Yes, I am 391\ 01:00:23.040 --> 01:00:27.429\ linda foley: And does anyone within caution train people? Have you got a trainer 392\ 01:00:27.951 --> 01:00:33.580\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: I've trained the councillors, and I've trained the staff here at Caution Town Council, and I did 393\ 01:00:33.870 --> 01:00:39.839\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: youth worker training in Scotland, trained about 200 people there for climate literacy 394\ 01:00:40.110 --> 01:00:44.700\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: during the pandemic. So I've done quite a lot of climate literacy training 395\ 01:00:44.700 --> 01:00:45.929\ linda foley: Carbon, literacy. 396\ 01:00:45.930 --> 01:00:46.490\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Yeah. 397\ 01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:47.319\ linda foley: Yeah, yeah. 398\ 01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:49.379\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: That that was climate literacy training. 399\ 01:00:49.740 --> 01:00:56.020\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Sorry. That was carbon literacy training in Scotland that I did. Yeah, there was a most of them got the certificate in the end 400\ 01:00:56.550 --> 01:01:05.839\ linda foley: Really good. Yeah, fantastic. So do you. Have you seen the the course for community leaders that is available for councils? 401\ 01:01:07.141 --> 01:01:20.460\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: I think I might have had a look at it. When I 1st started here at caution. I'm not sure it's been a while. Now, I do tend to use some of the materials I find really useful. 402\ 01:01:22.010 --> 01:01:30.089\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: so so it's it's you got some great stuff there, really, really useful, but the course itself I tend to kind of just tailor make it. 403\ 01:01:30.220 --> 01:01:55.520\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: I tend to when I'm giving climate training now is to tailor it to my audience. So I use a lot of local knowledge and local local impacts stuff. And and so and so I kind of take bits and pieces off the Internet, like, you know, the latest data, that kind of thing, any kind of resources I can find out there that I think are really good and useful, and then I kind of build a course around it, and and use that to to to give 404\ 01:01:55.720 --> 01:02:06.229\ linda foley: That's fantastic, that's really good. But there is another. If you've got your own course accredited, then you don't have to pay for the carbon literacy for climate 405\ 01:02:06.720 --> 01:02:24.390\ linda foley: community leaders. Course. Gosh, I'm getting caught on with so and that's really good. So I've delivered that in the community as well, it goes down really, really well, and I think part of the reason why it goes down so well is that people who are in community voluntary social enterprise groups tend to be very values driven. 406\ 01:02:26.110 --> 01:02:42.119\ linda foley: And so they're really, really interested in this and what they can do. So we're at the moment we're just in the process of creating a community course in Manchester for our groups for free. But yeah, it'd be fantastic if you were able to deliver that further than your counsellors 407\ 01:02:43.900 --> 01:02:44.390\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: Brilliant. 408\ 01:02:44.390 --> 01:02:48.617\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Yeah, I've actually given one to the local Wi as well. Recently 409\ 01:02:48.970 --> 01:02:50.519\ linda foley: Right, and they certified 410\ 01:02:51.110 --> 01:03:00.710\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: No, no, this was just a a couple of hours in a village hall. They wanted to. Somebody's given. Come in and give a talk about about climate change, and I'm giving one 411\ 01:03:01.867 --> 01:03:10.969\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: shortly. I can't remember who it was to. But yeah. But this, yes, when community groups are are looking for something. Then I then I can. 412\ 01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:12.850\ Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: I can offer my services 413\ 01:03:13.220 --> 01:03:22.890\ linda foley: That's great. Well, if you'd encourage them to do the full carbon literacy training the full kind of 7 to 8 h. That would be amazing and get certified. That'd be really good. So thank you. 414\ 01:03:24.700 --> 01:03:26.999\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: And Stuart, can we move to you, please. 415\ 01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:35.580\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: Yeah, I I would just like to say, thank you for a very interesting and enthusiastically delivered session 416\ 01:03:35.690 --> 01:03:36.690\ linda foley: Thank you. 417\ 01:03:37.380 --> 01:03:40.660\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: I. I live in Essex, and the 418\ 01:03:40.970 --> 01:03:48.790\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: biggest climate problem we have in Essex is transport, and I'm very keen to 419\ 01:03:48.940 --> 01:03:58.690\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: facilitate and promote active travel. I'm trying to reconnect an old disused railway line to some of our various villages and 420\ 01:03:59.217 --> 01:04:07.990\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: larger towns. I was just wondering, did do you have any experience or knowledge of how the B network in Manchester 421\ 01:04:08.180 --> 01:04:08.720\ linda foley: Yeah, yeah. 422\ 01:04:10.260 --> 01:04:16.999\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: Point has that, really generated a lot more active travel journeys 423\ 01:04:17.250 --> 01:04:33.480\ linda foley: Yeah, it's made since since the buses were deregulated, I think the biggest impact for everybody was that the price went to just basically a 1 off price, and in the last week they brought in this a bit like London. The tap on tap off 424\ 01:04:33.660 --> 01:04:34.330\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: Sorry. 425\ 01:04:34.950 --> 01:05:03.390\ linda foley: But the big difference was that the journeys became less expensive, and it's just one cost wherever you go, so it's made it much quicker electric buses. The air is cleaner. I live very near the biggest bus route in Europe, because I live in a kind of student area. So it's officially the biggest bus route in Europe there's like, and huge Cycle Lane. If anyone knows Oxford Road in Manchester, the Universities are down Oxford, I live at the end of Oxford Road. Basically 426\ 01:05:03.390 --> 01:05:03.950\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: Bronx. 427\ 01:05:03.950 --> 01:05:11.430\ linda foley: It's absolutely extraordinary the difference that that has made but transport for London have trained up. 428\ 01:05:11.620 --> 01:05:28.089\ linda foley: They've now they're now a carbon literate organization. They've trained up all their staff. So there is a real real commitment within transport business. Now, I'm working with a logistics business again, who are looking to reduce their emissions as well. 429\ 01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:34.739\ linda foley: So there, I think you're absolutely right. One of the things I think about I mentioned that book. The future we choose 430\ 01:05:34.890 --> 01:05:44.489\ linda foley: is that the co-benefits of taking action to reduce emissions are also that people engage with cleaner air. 431\ 01:05:44.630 --> 01:06:05.340\ linda foley: People engage with planting trees. People engage with biodiversity, you know it's not that you do a day's training and you stop. It's like that is the start of your journey, and you begin then to question what else you can do, and I think when I go in and hand talk to governors. One of the things they often talk about is clean air. 432\ 01:06:05.820 --> 01:06:18.009\ linda foley: and we do well as a council. We do various things like, you know, green screens around schools. We build hedges to collect the particulates, to make the air cleaner, to create a little bit of biodiversity on the grounds. 433\ 01:06:18.560 --> 01:06:26.960\ linda foley: All of these things are kind of interrelated, but it begins with an understanding of 434\ 01:06:27.080 --> 01:06:34.120\ linda foley: where we really are, now that we can't carry on as business as usual, and I still think there's an awful lot of people 435\ 01:06:34.290 --> 01:06:40.769\ linda foley: I've got like godchildren in their early twenties. They wear secondhand clothes. 436\ 01:06:40.970 --> 01:06:49.869\ linda foley: They're vegan or vegetarian, you know. They they recycle, but then every chance they get they fly off somewhere around the world. 437\ 01:06:50.030 --> 01:06:57.789\ linda foley: and the truth is, no, and I I adore them. But the truth is that they do not really understand 438\ 01:06:58.040 --> 01:07:07.280\ linda foley: the carbon impacts of everyday life, and I think, once they do understand that they will take slightly fewer flights. They will. 439\ 01:07:08.020 --> 01:07:14.860\ linda foley: They will get the train to places, you know. They will amend their lifestyle, because it's all about knowledge is power, isn't it? 440\ 01:07:15.080 --> 01:07:40.859\ linda foley: And so I think they're acting out of ignorance, and because they recycle away secondhand clothes, and you know, don't eat very much meat. They think right. I've ticked that environmental box, but they don't actually know the reality of what what they're going to be facing in the next 1210, 20 years. And I think that's the thing that makes me really sad is that lack of really good quality 441\ 01:07:41.070 --> 01:07:49.299\ linda foley: telling people the facts. Right? I go back to 2,006. It's like the 4 stages of grief. Isn't it like shock? 442\ 01:07:49.450 --> 01:07:51.370\ linda foley: I cannot believe this is happening 443\ 01:07:51.680 --> 01:07:52.360\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: So. 444\ 01:07:52.360 --> 01:08:07.329\ linda foley: Anger, denial, and then acceptance. And I think when I turned around to my husband, I read that book, and I just thought this cannot be true. It cannot be true. This cannot be the future that that little baby that's unborn inside me is going to have, you know. 445\ 01:08:07.450 --> 01:08:09.229\ linda foley: and I feel that with my young people 446\ 01:08:10.530 --> 01:08:13.309\ linda foley: I feel a huge moral responsibility 447\ 01:08:13.530 --> 01:08:32.770\ linda foley: to get this into schools. There's 3.2 million secondary age school students, you know, and they need to know the facts and the knowledge, and they need to know how to deal with it, and preferably all in one day, so that they have the shock, and then they're given the tools to deal with it, and they are supported through that journey 448\ 01:08:33.580 --> 01:08:37.290\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: How do you think we could best approach schools? 449\ 01:08:37.569 --> 01:08:44.549\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: Oh, yeah, I I did have a community climate action event in Dunmo, which is 450\ 01:08:45.485 --> 01:08:45.800\ tristram cary Winchfield Hants: Chill. 451\ 01:08:46.899 --> 01:08:52.589\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: And not a single school child attended. 452\ 01:08:52.999 --> 01:09:02.349\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: even though we we discussed it with the head teacher. We had leaflets out posters around the town, none of them 453\ 01:09:03.260 --> 01:09:19.170\ linda foley: So last year I got a call. I just started working for the project, so I volunteered with them for years. I only started working with them in September, and I got a call from the Government of Jersey. La, la, la! I didn't even know that Jersey has its own government. There you go. 454\ 01:09:19.220 --> 01:09:28.289\ linda foley: the Governor of Jersey, and it was their climate Change officer, and she said, I would like to do carbon literacy 455\ 01:09:28.330 --> 01:09:55.860\ linda foley: Action Day in November for, and offer it to all of our schools and do a big event. I think it was 200 young people right? Really. Big event, you know she had funding for it, and we helped to create a course. And she did indeed deliver carbon literacy training to the young people. So I suppose it's having somebody, perhaps the climate officer who's in your local council, or perhaps yourself, or perhaps 456\ 01:09:55.990 --> 01:09:58.509\ linda foley: one of the schools that are passionate about it. 457\ 01:09:58.690 --> 01:10:21.299\ linda foley: It might be somebody who's sustainability lead in Manchester. We've got an environmental charity called the Environmental Education Network. She does a lot of work in our schools. So it's finding somebody who's interested in this area and then supporting them in, perhaps getting a venue. Just start off small. Right? I told you I did training for 3 people in the Town Hall on a Sunday. 458\ 01:10:21.300 --> 01:10:36.629\ linda foley: so don't. Don't start off big. If you're saying I want to do something, then set yourself a date. It might be November, and then gather one or 2 people who will support you and organize that event, and that will be the catalyst then, for other things to happen. 459\ 01:10:37.870 --> 01:10:38.820\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: Very clear. 460\ 01:10:39.596 --> 01:10:40.830\ Cllr Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow, Essex: Thank you. 461\ 01:10:41.130 --> 01:10:42.283\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: Tristram, please. 462\ 01:10:43.110 --> 01:10:55.730\ tristram cary Winchfield Hants: Yeah, then, thank you very much. Very interesting. We come from a very small parish in Hampshire, and we've got we're working with a another charity called the Greening Campaign. If you've ever come across that 463\ 01:10:56.110 --> 01:10:56.490\ linda foley: No. 464\ 01:10:56.490 --> 01:11:02.499\ tristram cary Winchfield Hants: But they're very good. So they're not the carbon literacy, but they do training, and they they sort of hold our hands, and they they 465\ 01:11:02.950 --> 01:11:15.709\ tristram cary Winchfield Hants: some guide the the council about what to do and what what makes a difference, and how you can hedge, and how you can, you know, reduce waste and all that sort of stuff. So that's that's a big, that's a big support to us as a very small council 466\ 01:11:16.010 --> 01:11:28.760\ linda foley: Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah. But if you say to them, I've had a presentation about carbon literacy, can you look into it? And you know what you know about it. We we work with a group called the Green Schools Project. But that's not that 467\ 01:11:28.760 --> 01:11:32.460\ tristram cary Winchfield Hants: Okay, they know about carbon efficiency 468\ 01:11:33.020 --> 01:11:39.100\ linda foley: Pardon. And actually, we've had. We've had carbon literacy training that was organized by our district, which is heart district. 469\ 01:11:39.440 --> 01:11:39.800\ linda foley: Yeah. 470\ 01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:44.389\ tristram cary Winchfield Hants: They've got a reasonably active training campaign to support local parishes 471\ 01:11:44.720 --> 01:11:45.160\ linda foley: Right. 472\ 01:11:45.160 --> 01:12:04.629\ tristram cary Winchfield Hants: I really, I want to ask you another question, which is, does it worry you at all when you train in schools that you do make the children very anxious, and if they feel that they, I know I completely understand the attitude and the hope. That's very important. But also it's not all down to individual actions. 473\ 01:12:05.730 --> 01:12:09.980\ linda foley: No, no, that's a really important point. Sorry I want to switch. Can you 474\ 01:12:09.980 --> 01:12:15.199\ tristram cary Winchfield Hants: These things that are not not down to the individual 475\ 01:12:15.380 --> 01:12:39.220\ linda foley: Tristan. I think that's really important point, right? It is not about making young people feel guilty. It is absolutely about making them understand why we are where we are, and that there are really positive co-benefits to taking action. And I think you're absolutely right. It's not about putting pressure on them to do it. But what I've actually found in doing it. 476\ 01:12:39.260 --> 01:13:08.459\ linda foley: it's really, really inspiring. I did. A recently I was involved in Stockport County Council, which is a little town just outside Manchester, and I spoke to a group of secondary school students about 40 of them. They absolutely loved the carbon literacy, and I've been kind of inundated with requests to go in and support schools there, in fact, really interesting one of the local colleges there does environmental science a level. 477\ 01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:32.709\ linda foley: And the students there were just like this is, you've got to come in. You've got to do this. I promised to go in actually, in July. I'm volunteering to go in and and to to teach those to do carbon dizzy training for that cohort of students and their teacher. So no, I think the response I get is not anxiety. The response I get is like, Wow, how can we go and influence people? 478\ 01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:38.860\ linda foley: And and what we've seen is that school students, of whatever age. 479\ 01:13:38.920 --> 01:14:06.689\ linda foley: have a huge influence on their parents decisions, they actually go home, and they can often the biggest influence on a kind of I don't know. Petrol head man is his 15 year old daughter, like there's been research to show that I have a friend who I have given. He's a really good friend of mine, very intelligent guy. He's a head of chambers. I've been giving him these books to read, and I'm not sure whether he's read them or not 480\ 01:14:07.100 --> 01:14:17.980\ linda foley: did make a blind bit difference to his lifestyle. But his daughter came back from living in Spain kind of as an Eco warrior. She must have started going out with some very green fella. 481\ 01:14:18.510 --> 01:14:38.730\ linda foley: and it was like, Dad, you know. Why are you driving your Bmw. Into Manchester when there is a tram at the end of the road, so he's now got a Brompton, so he cycles to the tram. Stop! He gets the tram in. They've got a house in France. They never fly anymore, because Maddie has insisted that they can't fly because it's going to 482\ 01:14:39.006 --> 01:14:39.559\ linda foley: thank you. 483\ 01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:48.180\ linda foley: They'd practically gone vegetarian. So it's really interesting is that this is a really intelligent guy. I've been giving him these books for years. 484\ 01:14:48.430 --> 01:14:58.949\ linda foley: whether he's read the books or not. What's actually changed the behavior in the family. Is their daughter coming home and educating them and saying. 485\ 01:14:59.240 --> 01:15:04.959\ linda foley: you need to change your behavior because it's really important for future 486\ 01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:05.560\ tristram cary Winchfield Hants: Problem 487\ 01:15:05.560 --> 01:15:06.780\ linda foley: Us and the planet 488\ 01:15:06.980 --> 01:15:16.219\ tristram cary Winchfield Hants: One more question, how do you stop children deciding not to have children of their own? Because that's the best thing they can do for carbon, you know, for the carbon 489\ 01:15:16.630 --> 01:15:36.820\ tristram cary Winchfield Hants: future of the world, and that's you know, we don't have a sustainable birth rate across the whole of Western Europe, and one of the reasons is that people are anxious, and they think, Well, I've got to take action. I can't have children for carbon, or you know I don't want them to inherit this world that we've ruined. So that's a terrible thing to me. That's an overshoot 490\ 01:15:37.230 --> 01:15:38.130\ linda foley: I agree. 491\ 01:15:38.430 --> 01:15:47.489\ linda foley: Yeah, I agree that I actually know some adults, environmental activists that have made that decision. And it breaks my heart 492\ 01:15:47.490 --> 01:15:48.100\ tristram cary Winchfield Hants: Shouldn't speak. 493\ 01:15:48.100 --> 01:16:06.019\ linda foley: Honest. But I go back to this idea about hope being an axe if you empower them right. There was a really interesting piece of work done by Deloitte. There was a paper. One of my colleagues in the Carbon Literacy Project sent it to me which said 494\ 01:16:06.060 --> 01:16:10.100\ linda foley: that absolutely top companies now 495\ 01:16:10.110 --> 01:16:36.620\ linda foley: are looking at the sustainability policies because they cannot recruit the best candidates anymore because the best candidates are being interviewed. And they're asking questions about sustainability policies of those top industries, and that to me is really powerful. And Deloitte wrote this whole paper, and they said, You need to be aware this is happening now, because the best of the best candidates are only going into jobs 496\ 01:16:36.910 --> 01:17:03.969\ linda foley: in which they know that they're going to be making a difference. So I think that's another reason why we need to do it. So yeah, I think everything you say. See, now, now, you're making me really sad because you're right. There are some young people who make that decision, but the answer is, as a society. They've got to see that we're doing everything we can. And I know, and it was something that was mentioned earlier on. 497\ 01:17:04.340 --> 01:17:23.760\ linda foley: I get an inbox, and during the flooding, unfortunately, I got that virus, and I was knocked out, and my poor son came into my room and said, Oh, my God! I have to show you this video. And it was the riverbanks being washed away, and I was lying in bed ill. I was in bed for 2 days, and I got up and I had 140 emails. 498\ 01:17:23.930 --> 01:17:43.759\ linda foley: Okay, in 2 days, all from residents concerned about the flooding and what we're going to do, and what we can do this whatever. And as politicians, what we all know is if we get 65 people turning up to our surgery right complaining because a road has been closed 499\ 01:17:43.900 --> 01:17:54.229\ linda foley: right, which is what happened with us nearest School School Street Road was closed. There was a bit of a campaign from a local taxi driver, 65 people turned up at that surgery. 500\ 01:17:54.350 --> 01:18:04.289\ linda foley: Now, what I wanted to say was that if the pro cycling pro clean air pro environmental. 501\ 01:18:04.590 --> 01:18:14.350\ linda foley: if all those people in that community who wanted that to happen had mobilized in the same way, there would have been 200 people at my surgery. 502\ 01:18:14.530 --> 01:18:20.949\ linda foley: but they didn't, because they were a bit complacent. Well, we've got the road we've won. We've got the road closed right. Isn't it all fantastic? 503\ 01:18:21.080 --> 01:18:48.960\ linda foley: The people who didn't want the road to be closed. They had a campaign. They had posters in the windows. They sent out letters, they mobilized, they they bullied. Let's be blunt. They bullied the local councillors. Okay, and there's a consultation and 75 people said, We don't want this road to be closed. And so the council, the road? Right? So the answer is, we've got to mobilize those people who understands the importance of 504\ 01:18:49.310 --> 01:19:03.900\ linda foley: climate action, of clean air, of cycling for active travel, all the co-benefits we've got to get our message really, really clear, and we have to mobilise in a positive way for those things that we want to happen. 505\ 01:19:04.440 --> 01:19:05.730\ linda foley: Does that make sense 506\ 01:19:05.730 --> 01:19:08.450\ tristram cary Winchfield Hants: Yep, no, I agree. 507\ 01:19:10.030 --> 01:19:16.291\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: Yeah, Linda. Well, thank you so much for enthralling us for an hour. That's been really tremendous. 508\ 01:19:16.900 --> 01:19:26.549\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: and I'm very grateful to you, and I will publish all of this on the Wiki and everybody. You have to catch up the people who weren't here today. So thank you 509\ 01:19:26.860 --> 01:19:45.109\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Bembridge: for everyone else here I normally announce cheerfully what next week's topic is going to be, and this year I can say, or this week I can say I haven't got the slightest idea yet we'd love to come up with something. So thank you all very much for your time. Thank you for coming. I hope you enjoyed it, and see you next time. Take care 510\ 01:19:45.650 --> 01:19:47.289\ linda foley: Thanks, Greg, thank you. *** ### Markdown of Presentation (for AI search engine): Here’s a markdown version of the presentation content from “2.4.25 Great Collaborations Presentation”: *** ## Lessons from Manchester: Aiming to Be the First Carbon Literate City in the World
Great Collaboration Banter Session – 2nd April 2025 *Cllr Linda Foley* *** ### Timeline of Action and Learning * 2006 – HEAT: “This cannot be true!” * 2007–2011 – Eco-School/Environment and Land-Based Diploma Lead, Bury LA * 2011 – “Cut the green crap” * 2012 – University of Manchester – “It’s politics, stupid” * 2018 – Scoping: NPQEL, London, Leeds, XR Student strikes / selected cllr * 2019 – Carbon Literacy – *the silver bullet* * 2022 – Deputy Exec of Environment, MCC * 2025 – MCLC, schools TK, Localities Project *** ### What Is Carbon Literacy?
> “An awareness of the carbon costs and impacts of everyday activities and the ability and motivation to reduce emissions on an individual, community and organisational basis.” *** ### The Carbon Literacy Project * A low-carbon culture change initiative * Over 6000 organisations involved across sectors * Non-profit charity * Activities include: * Providing materials * Certifying learners and trainers * Accrediting courses, organisations, and educators * Recognised by the UN at COP21 (Paris) * Awarded as one of 100 worldwide ‘Transformative Action Programs’ *** ### Manchester: A Carbon Literate City
#### Participating Sectors: * Local Authorities * Education * Automotive * Civil Service * Culture * Food & Farming * Healthcare * SMEs * Social Housing * Sport *** ### What’s in the Carbon Literacy Course?
#### The Knowledge: * Science & impacts of climate change * Responses & solutions * Importance of communication and positivity
#### Learning Method: * Relevant and practical, with local examples * 7 to 8 hours of learning and doing * Includes discussion and practical activities * Delivered partially by sector professionals
#### Taking Action: * Group and individual actions required * Actions must be: * Role-related * New and significant * Aimed at reducing carbon emissions
#### Core Values: * Individual action matters * Collaboration is key * Must ensure a fair and equitable transition *** ### Carbon Literacy in Schools * Ensure staff are confident and knowledgeable * Achieve a Carbon Literacy Award to show climate commitment * Future-proof schools for statutory requirements * School Staff Course launched in June * Demonstrate commitment to the school community *** ### Carbon Literate Educator
> Accreditation celebrating Carbon Literacy training and action in educational institutions.
* Certifies staff and students * Recognizes Carbon Literate action * Requires engagement with Spheres of Influence *** ### Spheres of Influence
Educators must show engagement with various groups inside and outside their institution: *** ### Steps to Become a Carbon Literate School 1. Complete one-day Carbon Literacy Training 🌍 2. Complete evidence form ✏️ 3. Choose two new actions to reduce carbon footprint 👣 4. CLP checks form → issue unique CL certificate 🎓 5. Request CL school toolkit + attend 90-min “Delivering Successful Carbon Literacy” course 🫰 6. Organise training for school leaders and staff ⛲️ 7. Train and certify one leader, one staff, one student 🚸👨🏽‍🍳🧑🏼‍🌾 8. Apply for CLE (Carbon Literate Educator Award) at Bronze, Silver, Gold, or Platinum 🥉🥈🥇 9. Join Carbon Literacy Action Day (CLAD) – Nov 2025 🌍 10. *“It is better to create strong children than repair broken people.”* 11. Sign up for our newsletters ***