# Banter 95: 12Nov25 Public EV Chargers - installation and funding, with Gary Gee and Morgan Davies {% embed url="" %} ### Video Timeline: (min:sec) 00:00 - 14:09 Presentation 14:09 - 52:54 (end) Q & A *** ### Presentation: {% file src="" %} You are welcome to download the presentation; a markdown copy is at the bottom of this page (for AI search engine purposes) *** ### Meeting Summary: Nov 12, 2025 11:47 AM London ID: 834 5460 8536 ### Quick recap The main focus was on electric vehicle charging infrastructure, where MB Electrical presented plans for installing EV chargers across the Isle of Wight and discussed various funding models and installation options. The session concluded with discussions about EV charging infrastructure benefits, costs, and implementation challenges, including grid connections and local economic impacts, with an announcement about next week's climate action network session. ### Next steps * [Morgan : Follow up with Kirsten regarding the feasibility of implementing a dual pricing system through back office software](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=RTVKuegdS06SysTQTSVAvA%3D%3D\&stepId=774e4426-bfc7-11f0-b792-4ae9c902ed3b) * [Stuart: Chase up information about community radio in Dunmode](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=RTVKuegdS06SysTQTSVAvA%3D%3D\&stepId=774e47b0-bfc7-11f0-885a-4ae9c902ed3b) * [Graham: Share Gary and Morgan's contact details with all meeting participants](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=RTVKuegdS06SysTQTSVAvA%3D%3D\&stepId=774e490b-bfc7-11f0-8797-4ae9c902ed3b) * [Graham: Publish the recording, presentation slides, and chat details from the session](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=RTVKuegdS06SysTQTSVAvA%3D%3D\&stepId=774e4a72-bfc7-11f0-b707-4ae9c902ed3b) ### Summary #### Parish EV Charging Solutions Discussion Graham welcomed attendees to the meeting, including Gary and Morgan, and requested participants to update their Zoom names for identification. Morgan, currently in Wales, shared updates about his location and work. Gary, representing MB Electrical EV Limited, introduced the company's focus on electrical vehicle chargers and their aim to assist parish councils in finding financial solutions for future-proofing their communities. The meeting was set to proceed with Morgan presenting slides on opportunities for parish councils, with Graham noting that some attendees might leave early. #### EV Charging Infrastructure for Tourism MB Electrical presented a plan to install electric vehicle charging stations across the Isle of Wight to support sustainable tourism and meet growing demand for EV-friendly destinations. Gary explained that 1.1 million EVs are now on UK roads, with government commitments to reach net zero by 2050, making EV charging infrastructure crucial for attracting eco-conscious travelers. The presentation highlighted benefits including increased footfall, dwell time, and sales for local businesses, while also supporting environmental goals and future-proofing against regulations. *** ### Contacts: Morgan and Gary are both very open to helping parish councils to install public EV Chargers, and are glad to discuss options with anyone interested in further information, without obligation: Gary Gee: . 01983-668068 Morgan Davies: *** ### Chat: 00:10:39 Graham Stoddart-Stones: “Our Earth Week” this week is running a fascinating session this week on Community Radio, and Katie Chubb will be talking to us about it on 03Dec25 - please see here: 00:17:40 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Graham - I may have to leave before the end - please forgive \ 00:37:07 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Here in Martock we have the other side of this issue. I am one of a small team that looks after a small nature area near a roundabout on the A303, the Roman Fosse way and now the second most popular route west from London. Welcome Break want to concrete over our nature area, now a registered Local Wildlife Site because of its extraordinary range of rare insects. Our problem is that we are close to the only Substation on our 30 mile bit of road with the headroom to power a TRSA which will need as much electricity as our village - Martock. What we would like to see is local petrol garages tooling up to take up this market - particularly for commercial vehicles and (soon) HGVs Why are they not? Is it expense? Or is it just failing to plan for the market? \ 01:10:48 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Many thanks for the session. *** ### Audio-transcript: 212\ 00:18:58.940 --> 00:19:04.100\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Would you, like to start the ball rolling, please? You can introduce yourself, tell us. 213\ 00:19:04.100 --> 00:19:05.060\ Gary Gee: Yes, thanks. 214\ 00:19:05.060 --> 00:19:06.570\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Go ahead and do it, feel free. 215\ 00:19:07.210 --> 00:19:18.089\ Gary Gee: So, just gonna… obviously, good… good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for letting us come on to this today. My name's Gary. I am the General Manager of MB Electrical EV Limited. 216\ 00:19:18.210 --> 00:19:22.830\ Gary Gee: So, I'm based on the Isle of Wight. We have 3… 217\ 00:19:23.060 --> 00:19:29.830\ Gary Gee: offices across the country, one in Uxbridge, or London, and one in Wales, where Morgan is today. 218\ 00:19:29.990 --> 00:19:34.410\ Gary Gee: So we specialize in electrical vehicle charges. 219\ 00:19:34.910 --> 00:19:43.840\ Gary Gee: So we are, as you will probably know, electrical vehicles are becoming increasingly common across the Isle of Wight and the UK. 220\ 00:19:43.980 --> 00:19:47.459\ Gary Gee: So we look at solutions and hopefully help 221\ 00:19:48.020 --> 00:19:52.009\ Gary Gee: Parish councils like yourself find financial solutions. 222\ 00:19:52.210 --> 00:20:00.830\ Gary Gee: to help you future-proof the area and the community. That's basically what we do. We specialize in electrical vehicle chargers. 223\ 00:20:01.100 --> 00:20:05.520\ Gary Gee: So, obviously… 224\ 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:15.490\ Gary Gee: What we'd like to probably do today is just briefly outline any opportunities for the parish councils across the country, and obviously give you some knowledge, confidence. 225\ 00:20:15.620 --> 00:20:17.710\ Gary Gee: And information to move forward. 226\ 00:20:18.500 --> 00:20:25.679\ Gary Gee: Morgan will hopefully put the slides up, and then we can sort of follow the slides when you're ready. 227\ 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:29.510\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Amazing. Am I okay to share the screen? 228\ 00:20:29.510 --> 00:20:30.730\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Oh yes, go for it, please. 229\ 00:20:30.730 --> 00:20:33.919\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I'm hope… I'm hoping I can share a screen. 230\ 00:20:35.230 --> 00:20:36.490\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Da-da-da… 231\ 00:20:36.730 --> 00:20:41.520\ Gary Gee: Yeah, you have to apologize, because it was short notice, we've been, right around you guys. 232\ 00:20:41.520 --> 00:20:43.670\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Yeah, very good of you, thank you. 233\ 00:20:43.820 --> 00:20:45.480\ Gary Gee: That's okay, we'll get there. 234\ 00:20:48.060 --> 00:20:51.639\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I believe I am sharing my screen currently. 235\ 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:57.189\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Yes, if you click on the allow, that should be good. Oh, there we go. Perfect, yep. 236\ 00:20:57.660 --> 00:21:06.480\ Gary Gee: Obviously, we did a show on the island, and some of this will be based around the island, but it is generic. 237\ 00:21:07.740 --> 00:21:15.469\ Gary Gee: Oh, the volume's gone up. Yeah, so, so obviously welcome, and as I said, we're MB Electrical. We're there to, 238\ 00:21:15.930 --> 00:21:19.639\ Gary Gee: drive sustainable tourism across the Isle of Wight and the UK. 239\ 00:21:20.040 --> 00:21:24.160\ Gary Gee: So… It basically, 240\ 00:21:24.730 --> 00:21:31.829\ Gary Gee: The shift in electric vehicles you see across the UK is over a million vehicles now on the road, which is electric vehicles. 241\ 00:21:32.170 --> 00:21:37.080\ Gary Gee: And the… well, the Isle of Wight, we had a massive opportunity to lead in this. 242\ 00:21:37.270 --> 00:21:42.780\ Gary Gee: So, as you can see… sorry, there's 1.1 million EVs now on the road. 243\ 00:21:43.070 --> 00:21:47.760\ Gary Gee: The government have committed to do a net zero by 2050. 244\ 00:21:48.230 --> 00:21:56.460\ Gary Gee: And, obviously, there's growing demand for EV-friendly destinations, and what that means is the drivers are looking for destinations 245\ 00:21:56.590 --> 00:22:06.320\ Gary Gee: to visit, to stay, to go and look at, and they will look at the opportunities to where they can charge. So they'll be looking at your parishes and your businesses. 246\ 00:22:06.360 --> 00:22:18.100\ Gary Gee: And they will go to the ones with charging points. So… so why do we do it? So obviously, because it's been growing so far in the last two years, and these targets have to be it. 247\ 00:22:18.180 --> 00:22:22.790\ Gary Gee: We want to future-proof you, your parish, and your businesses. 248\ 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:28.240\ Gary Gee: And by doing that, we're hoping that putting electric vehicle, 249\ 00:22:28.550 --> 00:22:34.680\ Gary Gee: charges in will help that. So… Why it matters. 250\ 00:22:37.070 --> 00:22:38.729\ Gary Gee: We on the island… 251\ 00:22:38.810 --> 00:22:49.889\ Gary Gee: rely heavily on tourism and local commerce, and I suggest most of you do. Visitors increase… increasingly travel in EVs and expect charging facilities. 252\ 00:22:49.920 --> 00:23:06.159\ Gary Gee: Providing chargers helps attract eco-conscious travellers, and local fleets and residents benefit from convenient charging. So what that means is, your parish, your people, your community. 253\ 00:23:06.220 --> 00:23:11.399\ Gary Gee: We'll all benefit for any charges you feel you may need across your parish. 254\ 00:23:11.600 --> 00:23:24.479\ Gary Gee: So there is a statistic on there. 80% of EV drivers plan their travel routes based on charging availability, and that's quite high. And only 48% will actually go 255\ 00:23:24.780 --> 00:23:33.379\ Gary Gee: to, a place that hasn't got a charger. So that tells you there's, you know, 52% of people bypassing areas 256\ 00:23:33.550 --> 00:23:36.529\ Gary Gee: Local communities, 257\ 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:44.280\ Gary Gee: So, what's the benefit? The benefits are there. They increase footfall and dwell time within your area. 258\ 00:23:44.600 --> 00:24:02.989\ Gary Gee: They spend more time at charging location, which increase in on-site sales, so any shops or local residents or businesses around there will also have increased sales. You'll boost your reputation with sustainability, you'll demonstrate environmental responsibility. 259\ 00:24:03.190 --> 00:24:11.080\ Gary Gee: And we're aligned with green tourism and local sustainability goals. That's important, because you're in line with your local goals. 260\ 00:24:11.210 --> 00:24:28.509\ Gary Gee: Obviously, they generate revenue, but we're not here to sales pitch. We're here just to give you a basics of what we do. They do offer a paid charging app, which you can do, which Morgan will talk about later, and there is options for loyal and free charging for customers. 261\ 00:24:28.570 --> 00:24:37.059\ Gary Gee: But mainly, this is all to future-proof any businesses. Stay ahead of any regulations and infrastructure trends. 262\ 00:24:38.630 --> 00:24:48.520\ Gary Gee: So, we also have an… obviously, the environmental benefit is massive, supporting your climate goals, reducing your air pollution and your carbon footprint. 263\ 00:24:48.860 --> 00:24:52.480\ Gary Gee: So, what are the options? 264\ 00:24:52.700 --> 00:24:54.400\ Gary Gee: If you go to the next one, MORC, 265\ 00:24:56.290 --> 00:25:04.379\ Gary Gee: So, let's go to, suitable business types. So, as you can see there, you know, it's not a long list, it's hotels. 266\ 00:25:04.500 --> 00:25:06.710\ Gary Gee: B\&bs, holiday parks. 267\ 00:25:06.840 --> 00:25:14.840\ Gary Gee: pubs, cafes, restaurants, retail parks and supermarkets, and attractions around your area. You know, so… 268\ 00:25:15.690 --> 00:25:26.630\ Gary Gee: If you're looking to improve your infrastructure, and you have all these businesses and supermarkets and attractions around you, the EV charging point is a massive tick. 269\ 00:25:26.950 --> 00:25:29.320\ Gary Gee: Next one's log. 270\ 00:25:30.050 --> 00:25:36.909\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): it does bring a lot of… a lot of tourism into the areas. I live in a little town myself in Wales. 271\ 00:25:37.070 --> 00:25:48.410\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And I'm forever seeing on these Facebook groups, so on and so forth, where people are like, oh, we can't do this, we're not bringing these people in, why isn't the grass cut, why isn't this done? And obviously. 272\ 00:25:48.890 --> 00:25:56.209\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): the pot of money isn't endless, but what a good thing is with EV charging, one, it'll bring people in 273\ 00:25:56.430 --> 00:26:07.939\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): But it'll also produce a revenue that will allow the nice flowers, the cutting of the grass, and stuff like that. It brings in an extra revenue, which is really important, I believe. 274\ 00:26:08.950 --> 00:26:09.950\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Sorry, Gary. 275\ 00:26:10.090 --> 00:26:16.610\ Gary Gee: That's alright, that's good. So, obviously, we did have some example cases, 276\ 00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:26.049\ Gary Gee: And, excuse me. So, as you can see, you know, 20% increase overnight stays for… from EV drivers in local hotels. 277\ 00:26:26.170 --> 00:26:35.429\ Gary Gee: You know, again, that 20% is a massive boost to the local economy. You know, they don't just stay in a hotel, they'll walk around your area, they will spend in your shops. 278\ 00:26:35.550 --> 00:26:44.979\ Gary Gee: And then, obviously, there was a rural pub in Dorset, you know, they just appeared one rapid charger, and their average customer time doubled. 279\ 00:26:45.090 --> 00:26:56.200\ Gary Gee: So they saw such an increase of people staying longer, eating, spending more money, just by putting one charger in. So you can see there's a massive benefit. 280\ 00:26:56.640 --> 00:27:00.100\ Gary Gee: So, next one, more. 281\ 00:27:02.280 --> 00:27:16.340\ Gary Gee: So, obviously, what you're all keen to look at, because obviously the cost is a massive factor, so there are funding partners, and we deal with all these partners, so we… we can go through the OZEV government grant, so that's for a workplace. 282\ 00:27:16.600 --> 00:27:36.549\ Gary Gee: And they do commercial sites as well. We have local initiatives we can look into for you. We can't do it for you, but we can help you, guide you through it. And then, obviously, we're in partnership, as we said on the day, with Go Zero and Pear Park. I will let Morgan just explain more about the funding now. 283\ 00:27:36.570 --> 00:27:40.359\ Gary Gee: For the 3 different, or 4 different options there. 284\ 00:27:40.980 --> 00:27:53.109\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So, yeah, funding options, obviously, cash is always tight. There is options for funding out there, if it's something that you're interested in having in your areas. 285\ 00:27:54.730 --> 00:28:13.229\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): there's a couple of different models. You can get a fully funded option, where there's a 40-60 split in revenue, profits. So even though you're not putting any money down, you don't have to look after them, you don't have to manage them, you don't have to do anything, you're still getting a revenue. 286\ 00:28:13.300 --> 00:28:26.160\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): from that charging infrastructure being in place. Obviously, it also brings in people, to the local area and the local economy. So, the fully funded option. 287\ 00:28:26.280 --> 00:28:34.869\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Is really popular. It does depend on the spot, if it… if you've got a lot of charging around, so on and so forth. 288\ 00:28:35.380 --> 00:28:38.030\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): it may not be suitable. 289\ 00:28:38.270 --> 00:28:40.100\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): They… they do owe. 290\ 00:28:40.310 --> 00:28:45.699\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Sorry, also offer a… a part-funded option, so… 291\ 00:28:45.870 --> 00:29:00.240\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): That's where you gain a lot more of the control back, and you can gain a lot more money. So, if you do have a pot of funds available for EV charging, that might be an option where you can get a lot more bang for your buck. 292\ 00:29:00.390 --> 00:29:03.170\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): But then also, if you want to have full control. 293\ 00:29:03.280 --> 00:29:09.340\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): then you can obviously fund it yourself. But in terms of… 294\ 00:29:09.570 --> 00:29:11.860\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of funding options, they're… 295\ 00:29:12.470 --> 00:29:26.509\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): it can be rarely as flexible as you want. And if it's something that you're interested in, please obviously reach out to us, and even if it's just for a bit of advice, then we're more than happy to help. 296\ 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:30.350\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Push… push the goal of… 297\ 00:29:31.030 --> 00:29:35.350\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): of, EV, because the destination charging really is important. 298\ 00:29:36.210 --> 00:29:53.359\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): it's a… I don't know how many of you have EVs, but in terms of… it's not the same driving as just popping to the fuel station and topping up. It's rarely a case of plugging in as and where you are, and it's more part of life rather than 299\ 00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.380\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Just topping up your fuel as and when. 300\ 00:29:57.820 --> 00:30:11.449\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So yeah, I'll welcome any, obviously, any questions on funding. I can help with that, towards the end, but don't want to deep dive into it too much, because it may not be… may not be for everyone. 301\ 00:30:11.800 --> 00:30:13.390\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): What's the next? 302\ 00:30:14.120 --> 00:30:15.140\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): There we go. 303\ 00:30:15.430 --> 00:30:26.859\ Gary Gee: So I'll just, I'll let you know, what's the options for your parish council? Village halls to put them at? Parish car parks, shops, pubs, community centres, even recreation grounds. 304\ 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.260\ Gary Gee: You know, think where people visit you. 305\ 00:30:30.410 --> 00:30:32.950\ Gary Gee: And where you can make that extra revenue. 306\ 00:30:33.070 --> 00:30:47.090\ Gary Gee: and hit your sustainability goals. That's basically… So, you know, there's a basic thing on there, is how to get started. What we would do, if we were coming to you, is we'd just assess your site, your parking, your power. It's quite straightforward. 307\ 00:30:47.280 --> 00:30:55.080\ Gary Gee: We would talk to you about charging types. So, you know, you have a 7.4 kilowatt, which is basically your domestic at home. 308\ 00:30:55.120 --> 00:31:09.689\ Gary Gee: that you see on people's houses, up to 22 kilowatt, and then obviously we can have the bigger DC and, bigger kilowatts for faster charging. But we… we will go through that with you, what's perfect for you. 309\ 00:31:09.980 --> 00:31:18.529\ Gary Gee: Apply for funding or partner provider. Again, we can't do it for you, but we can guide you. Like Morgan said, we're happy to take any calls. 310\ 00:31:18.550 --> 00:31:33.950\ Gary Gee: offline, and, you know, guide you through anything you need. And then what that does is it promotes your new facility through tourism channels, so you can actually promote that you have these on site, they're there, they're working, and they're working to full capacity. 311\ 00:31:38.310 --> 00:31:45.739\ Gary Gee: So, basically, what we… we looked at the Isle of Wight, where it's a connected… what we need is a connected green transport network, but this is for everyone. 312\ 00:31:45.770 --> 00:32:04.389\ Gary Gee: business leading the change forward and towards sustainability. You want to attract visitors and keep your community happy. It's not all about visitors, it's the people that live there, and who show your environmental values, because as it says there, sustainability isn't just good for the planet, it is good for business. 313\ 00:32:08.850 --> 00:32:19.849\ Gary Gee: We would normally say this for when we're on site, you know, like, presenting for sales, we would, you know, get yourself booked in and all that, but like we said to Graham earlier, we're not here as a sales pitch. 314\ 00:32:19.990 --> 00:32:23.500\ Gary Gee: We would like you to understand the need 315\ 00:32:24.310 --> 00:32:34.829\ Gary Gee: to, you know, get those electric vehicle charging points to get people to your parishes. That's the main thing. And if we do that, we've won today, because it's not all about, you know, us 316\ 00:32:34.950 --> 00:32:45.430\ Gary Gee: trying to get money out your pocket, you know, though we'd be happy to install them all, don't get me wrong. So there is funding options, you know, there is, 317\ 00:32:45.940 --> 00:32:51.749\ Gary Gee: Different types of chargers, so basically, you know, we will just provide you with what you need. 318\ 00:32:52.060 --> 00:32:59.889\ Gary Gee: So, you know, EV charges are a practical step towards, you know, more connected community and cleaner air. 319\ 00:33:00.210 --> 00:33:02.770\ Gary Gee: So, you know, support your local residents. 320\ 00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:06.550\ Gary Gee: So, is there any questions or answers we can help you with? 321\ 00:33:09.310 --> 00:33:18.489\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: I have a couple, please, Gary, and thank you very much for that. The first one was, could you just highlight for people what 322\ 00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:29.670\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: types are available in terms of those, charges that pop up from the pavement, but disappear when they're not in use. I know that there are 323\ 00:33:29.700 --> 00:33:41.379\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: solutions to cables across the pavement, which is more likely to be useful for householders, but there are going to be plenty of homeowners asking, what can the council advise them to do, so… Yeah. 324\ 00:33:41.380 --> 00:33:41.700\ Gary Gee: Nope. 325\ 00:33:41.700 --> 00:33:42.600\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: everything there. 326\ 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:55.089\ Gary Gee: Obviously, you have your standard 7.4 kilowatt, which is your domestic. So anybody that has a car at home, generally, unless you have a free phase outfit, will always have a 7.4 kilowatt. 327\ 00:33:55.170 --> 00:34:08.619\ Gary Gee: Disregard the curbo ones, the curbo charge, as they're called, they are enforced, so what they do is they allow you to live in a residential area, and the charge is, is, 328\ 00:34:09.449 --> 00:34:11.070\ Gary Gee: Put into the pavement. 329\ 00:34:11.460 --> 00:34:29.590\ Gary Gee: And then there's a seal that goes over the top, and then you can run it across a pavement into a road. They're called turbocharge, and the Isle of Wight now is just starting to look at doing that, because it has to be going for planning. I know the Isle of Wight are not far off agreeing to those, so look into your local councils for that. 330\ 00:34:29.670 --> 00:34:38.030\ Gary Gee: And then, obviously, anything bigger, Morgan will be able to explain what you need for that, probably better than me, but… 331\ 00:34:38.030 --> 00:34:38.400\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah. 332\ 00:34:38.409 --> 00:34:38.839\ Gary Gee: Welcome. 333\ 00:34:39.100 --> 00:34:48.340\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah, so, like Gary was saying about the turbocharge, it is re… it's a really good option for people that don't have off-street parking. 334\ 00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:54.430\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): It allows people to be able to charge at those cheaper tariffs, 335\ 00:34:54.679 --> 00:35:00.340\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): around about 7p a kilowatt, so it's really… it's really good to… to educate 336\ 00:35:00.460 --> 00:35:10.559\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): people in the local areas that… that is available, so that they don't feel abandoned when adopting EV, because a lot of the time, EV comes 337\ 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.029\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Onto you as a… 338\ 00:35:14.070 --> 00:35:25.820\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): a business car, a company car, and they feel like they're under the burden of having to charge it, so on and so forth, it's really expensive. But there is those options out there. 339\ 00:35:26.040 --> 00:35:36.110\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of your bigger charges, so commercially what… so your 7.4 kilowatt will charge your car in roughly about 8 hours. 340\ 00:35:36.230 --> 00:35:38.549\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So it's good for a day charge. 341\ 00:35:38.890 --> 00:35:55.160\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): an overnight charge. If you're gonna be in work all day, and you always park all day, a 7.4 kilowatt is perfect, so you can get commercial models of those. You… if you're there for about 4 hours. 342\ 00:35:55.740 --> 00:35:56.800\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): A rounder golf. 343\ 00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:06.299\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): a nice meal, get some bowling, those type of areas. 4-hour charge, you're gonna be looking at a 22kW charger. 344\ 00:36:06.640 --> 00:36:13.299\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Anything above that, you're going to be looking at a DC. So, if you pop into your local supermarket and you want to plug in. 345\ 00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:19.520\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): you could look at a small DC where you're gonna get 40 kilowatts worth of charge in 346\ 00:36:20.110 --> 00:36:26.419\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In an hour, or you could look even higher, where you can… you can start charging a lot quicker. 347\ 00:36:26.590 --> 00:36:34.630\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Obviously, the revenue goes per kilowatt, so the quicker you can put that power into the car, the more revenue you're gonna get. 348\ 00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:35.750\ David Bourn: It's… 349\ 00:36:37.150 --> 00:36:41.250\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): It sounds… quite complicated. 350\ 00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:45.850\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Honestly, it… I'm here for any questions, so… 351\ 00:36:46.230 --> 00:36:49.209\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Please fire away, in terms of charging. 352\ 00:36:50.380 --> 00:36:53.860\ David Bourn: Plenty of hands raised, so let's start with you, Stuart, please. 353\ 00:36:55.540 --> 00:36:58.819\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Thank you, that's all very, interesting. 354\ 00:36:59.810 --> 00:37:04.240\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I, I, I, I've got an electric charge, charge, electric car. 355\ 00:37:04.410 --> 00:37:08.260\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: And I must confess, I've never charged it in public. 356\ 00:37:08.610 --> 00:37:19.330\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: But I am a bit horrified at the perkilowatt charge of some of these charges, and there's a lot of, sort of, street talk, saying. 357\ 00:37:20.020 --> 00:37:24.920\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: If you're charging one of these expensive charges, it's cheaper to actually run a petrol car. 358\ 00:37:26.380 --> 00:37:31.480\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Which I think is a major problem. But I'm also interested in the, 359\ 00:37:31.700 --> 00:37:36.469\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Architecture of the cars. Mine's a 400 volt. 360\ 00:37:37.060 --> 00:37:42.270\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Architecture, and it will charge at a maximum rate of about 150 kilowatts. 361\ 00:37:42.640 --> 00:37:50.120\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I gather most modern cars are now moving over to, 800-volt architecture. 362\ 00:37:50.350 --> 00:38:01.629\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: And they will charge at an even higher rate. They're talking about over 350 kilowatts, and this, that, and the other. What infrastructure are you putting in 363\ 00:38:01.770 --> 00:38:06.230\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: To allow for future changes to the charging systems. 364\ 00:38:06.890 --> 00:38:12.749\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: And how are the grid connections for these super-fast chargers working out? 365\ 00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.250\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Absolutely. So, in terms of… 366\ 00:38:17.700 --> 00:38:33.589\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Before I did this, I was, I worked in industrial electrics, and we did a lot of work with the grid, installing massive, massive banks of batteries at the base of all these massive pylons and substations. 367\ 00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:38.659\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): That is basically how they're supporting the network. 368\ 00:38:38.730 --> 00:38:55.879\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): What they're also doing, in regards to supporting the network is, as things evolve, as an electrician, as an EV installer, we should be installing biodirectional RCBOs, we should be installing everything to spec. 369\ 00:38:56.400 --> 00:39:03.069\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So, what that will allow is basically when you get these peak demands of energy, 370\ 00:39:03.650 --> 00:39:08.010\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): You'll be able to draw, basically, for example, a kilowatt. 371\ 00:39:08.720 --> 00:39:11.289\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Out of your car, and then replace it. 372\ 00:39:11.580 --> 00:39:14.209\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): That kilowatt times a million. 373\ 00:39:14.600 --> 00:39:16.540\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): cars across the UK. 374\ 00:39:16.740 --> 00:39:19.280\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): supports a grid. So, although… 375\ 00:39:19.530 --> 00:39:23.860\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): There is a lot of talk about how's the grid gonna cope, so on and so forth. 376\ 00:39:24.190 --> 00:39:28.409\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): that… They've been planning years ahead to… 377\ 00:39:28.670 --> 00:39:36.280\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): To give a lot of support to the grid with these… these fields for the batteries, that are supporting the grid. 378\ 00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:48.680\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of the chargers themselves, I… exactly like you say, there's… there's different cars, different models, there's… there's so many different variants of how fast cars can charge. 379\ 00:39:49.110 --> 00:39:51.979\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): When it comes to DC, cars will accept 380\ 00:39:52.250 --> 00:39:57.189\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): what they're limited to. So, for example, like you said, yours is 150 kilowatts. 381\ 00:39:58.810 --> 00:40:15.669\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): what they've made is everything uniform with your Type 2 sockets, your DC sockets, so all cars will accept the same socket, and all cars will limit themselves to the amount of power they can take. So if I was to plug into a 500kW charger. 382\ 00:40:15.770 --> 00:40:22.519\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): and my car could only take 100 kilowatts, it would only take 100 kilowatts. Whereas, if I was to plug into… 383\ 00:40:22.890 --> 00:40:27.809\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Like, I'm getting a bit complicated here, so please excuse me. 384\ 00:40:28.250 --> 00:40:34.089\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): you get your AC charging, where you have a onboard inverter. 385\ 00:40:34.180 --> 00:40:53.269\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): With this onboard inverter, that transfers your energy from AC to DC, because your batteries accept DC. Some cars take 11 kilowatts, some cars take 7.4 kilowatts, some take 22 kilowatts. So there's a lot of variance, but… 386\ 00:40:53.810 --> 00:40:57.399\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Oh, the grid can cope, and also your car will. 387\ 00:40:58.370 --> 00:41:01.559\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Listen to what it can take, and take what it can. 388\ 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:07.229\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Does that answer your question? Sorry, I don't know if I went off on a bit of a tangent. 389\ 00:41:09.710 --> 00:41:13.300\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I'm still a bit concerned about local grid connections. 390\ 00:41:13.520 --> 00:41:21.160\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of local grid connections, it is all based on what your… 391\ 00:41:21.470 --> 00:41:25.699\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Main distribution hub has available. 392\ 00:41:26.290 --> 00:41:27.500\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Obviously. 393\ 00:41:28.250 --> 00:41:39.670\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): they are continually upgrading. I know they upgraded the one in our local town recently. They're continually doing upgrades to local grid connections. 394\ 00:41:39.670 --> 00:41:42.619\ David Bourn: And it'll only expand further and further. 395\ 00:41:42.620 --> 00:41:49.279\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Obviously, there will be areas where the grids can only accept a certain amount, 100%. 396\ 00:41:50.350 --> 00:41:58.630\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): That's why they're also in… all these energy firms with their cheaper tariffs, it's based on a… 397\ 00:41:59.090 --> 00:42:08.920\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): dynamic pricing, so you get your cheap charging during the night, that's inviting everybody to charge at night, because that's when the grid is at its… 398\ 00:42:09.070 --> 00:42:15.719\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): leased, basically. That's when there's a lot of availability. So, when everybody's charging at home. 399\ 00:42:16.110 --> 00:42:19.929\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): It's normally at night, allowing a lot more free energy during the day. 400\ 00:42:20.430 --> 00:42:22.759\ David Bourn: For these hubs, basically. 401\ 00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:26.200\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): To… to become available. 402\ 00:42:28.520 --> 00:42:29.609\ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Okay, thank you. 403\ 00:42:30.200 --> 00:42:31.389\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Best them, please. 404\ 00:42:33.160 --> 00:42:52.790\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Hi, that was a very interesting talk, thank you. I, am here with a community group hat on, rather than a council, but we're working with the local council. We've recently had, EV charges, proposed and declined, for reasons that are beyond me. So, my question is. 405\ 00:42:53.250 --> 00:43:02.950\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Are there any significant blocks that you are discovering with councils, having issues? Are there particular roadblocks I should be aware of that are generic? 406\ 00:43:02.950 --> 00:43:13.509\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: And are there… can you give me a feel for the sort of… I know it's how long's a piece of string, but a sort of average setup cost, because maybe that was the block in this case. 407\ 00:43:13.510 --> 00:43:20.399\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Of course. In terms of the blocks themselves, they are making it a lot easier without any… 408\ 00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:29.580\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): removing any restrictions for planning for EV charging. So there's no real blocks that I can see in general. 409\ 00:43:29.700 --> 00:43:35.590\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): There may be still cases that need planning when it comes to special 410\ 00:43:35.950 --> 00:43:42.799\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): special areas, like, listed… listed areas, stuff like that. 411\ 00:43:43.120 --> 00:43:58.330\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of that, we'd be more than willing to work with you to come to an arrangement, speak to the councils, and find an option for you to achieve your goal. In terms of costing, like you said, it really is, how long's a piece of string? 412\ 00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.600\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I've… 413\ 00:44:02.290 --> 00:44:09.100\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): It's really hard to say, if I'm gonna be honest. I think, in terms… I can give you the costings for… 414\ 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:15.129\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): for example… A… a job that we are currently looking at. 415\ 00:44:15.340 --> 00:44:24.440\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): It's a 80kW DC and a 22kW AC. There's… 416\ 00:44:24.610 --> 00:44:35.170\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): A cost of £50,000 for the installation of these. The cable run is around about 70 meters. 417\ 00:44:35.710 --> 00:44:41.510\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of their return on investment, we're looking at breaking even at year 3. 418\ 00:44:41.660 --> 00:44:51.079\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): With a total income at year 10, including their maintenance of around about £470,000. 419\ 00:44:51.230 --> 00:44:54.189\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Based on… based on two charges. 420\ 00:44:56.430 --> 00:45:05.860\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: I think you may well have just answered the question in terms of the parish better than you realize, and that's very helpful. Thank you. Sorry, it was a bit of a tricky one. 421\ 00:45:05.860 --> 00:45:19.969\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): No, no, not a problem whatsoever. Obviously, there is lots of funding options available, lots of companies out there that are willing to install chargers, and scale with 422\ 00:45:20.090 --> 00:45:39.520\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): with the local area. So, I work closely with a number of, with a number of funding partners that will install one charger, and once that charger's being used up to 60% of the time, for example, they'll install another, and another, and another, to… 423\ 00:45:39.640 --> 00:45:54.090\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): to keep up with the demand of the local area, not costing you guys any money whatsoever. In fact, it will just earn you money as you go, because you'll be taking a percentage of the profit for… for having that location, basically. 424\ 00:45:55.790 --> 00:46:15.559\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: I think you clarified that very well at the beginning, where you can say, councils can decide what sort of return that they want, and it'll depend upon how much capital they put up front. So if they put up no capital up front, there's no initial capital cost to them, then their return will obviously be lower and slower. 425\ 00:46:15.730 --> 00:46:22.709\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: But if they want full control, as you suggested, then they have to put the money up. It's a matter of, what works for you. 426\ 00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:28.119\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Okay, let's move on to David, please. Dave Faulkner. 427\ 00:46:29.530 --> 00:46:31.199\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: Hi, yeah, 428\ 00:46:31.680 --> 00:46:39.480\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: kind of two questions in one, and I think it might get a bit complicated, so forgive me. So I've got an EV, and I… 429\ 00:46:39.610 --> 00:46:43.770\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: charge… lucky enough to charge at home normally, except when I go on long journeys. 430\ 00:46:44.100 --> 00:46:51.840\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: And on long journeys, I'll typically charge on the motorway, because it's so convenient, there's normally one available, they're super fast. 431\ 00:46:52.230 --> 00:46:55.090\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: Stop for 15 minutes, and job done. 432\ 00:46:56.050 --> 00:47:00.610\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: So, how do you make a… kind of smaller… 433\ 00:47:01.150 --> 00:47:04.810\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: Destination charger compete with that? 434\ 00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:13.869\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: I mean, what are… it's not… I mean, what are people doing is the question, really. I mean, how are they charging for it, I suppose? Are they undercutting the motorway? 435\ 00:47:14.150 --> 00:47:17.200\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: you know, the ATP type… tariffs. 436\ 00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:19.880\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: And by how much, typically. 437\ 00:47:20.170 --> 00:47:24.410\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: And that's… so that's one thing. And then that goes on to… 438\ 00:47:24.740 --> 00:47:28.239\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: If you are going to put some money up locally, what's the… 439\ 00:47:28.900 --> 00:47:32.450\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: Who's taking the risk on the, the usage? 440\ 00:47:32.970 --> 00:47:38.819\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: You say, because there's these… these funding models are, you know, there's a revenue split agreed. 441\ 00:47:39.290 --> 00:47:45.630\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: I don't know, is that a revenue split, or a profit split, or, you know, how does that sort of kind of work in practice? 442\ 00:47:46.490 --> 00:47:52.089\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: Does that make sense? Definitely, it's a good… it's a really good question. Hi, Dave. Thanks. 443\ 00:47:52.160 --> 00:47:56.750\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I live not far from you, I believe. I live in a little town called Knighton in your Herefordshire. 444\ 00:47:56.940 --> 00:47:59.079\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: Yeah, I'm just south of Kington, so, yeah. 445\ 00:47:59.080 --> 00:48:01.030\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Oh, we're Nelly neighbors. 446\ 00:48:01.030 --> 00:48:01.870\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: Yeah, yeah. 447\ 00:48:01.870 --> 00:48:08.829\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So yeah, in terms of… How local areas… 448\ 00:48:09.060 --> 00:48:14.870\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): compete with these motorway ones. So, in reality. 449\ 00:48:15.090 --> 00:48:21.790\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): how I would price a charger would be a case of looking at all the chargers in the local area. 450\ 00:48:22.860 --> 00:48:27.319\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Making sure it's viable, obviously, with the cost of energy. 451\ 00:48:27.470 --> 00:48:31.299\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Your maintenance, your installation costs, so on and so forth. 452\ 00:48:31.580 --> 00:48:35.299\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And then we… Model a plan on how 453\ 00:48:35.780 --> 00:48:43.479\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): we can make your charger the most attractive charger in that area. So yes, maybe cut… undercutting them by 1 or 2p. 454\ 00:48:44.050 --> 00:48:54.260\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I'm not gonna lie, I've been to many EV stations or petrol stations, and driven an extra mile to get that one piece cheaper, even though it's cost me… 455\ 00:48:54.790 --> 00:49:08.190\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Probably more… Probably not worthwhile, is it? Yeah, no, absolutely not, but it's just the human brain, isn't it? Yeah. We used to do that with petrol prices, yeah. Absolutely, I… I drive… 456\ 00:49:08.450 --> 00:49:15.919\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): 2-3 miles to get to my local, well, not-so-local petrol station, because they're… they're cheaper than the one in my town. 457\ 00:49:16.040 --> 00:49:18.480\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And I know that's not quite right, but it's… 458\ 00:49:18.590 --> 00:49:22.810\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): It's quite a big bet, like, 10p cheaper. It's. 459\ 00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:24.949\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: It's a lot. It's a lot. 460\ 00:49:25.090 --> 00:49:26.800\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of… 461\ 00:49:27.510 --> 00:49:36.469\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): How we model your chargers, we would go down that route of slightly undercutting them, but making sure that you're making a decent amount of money. 462\ 00:49:36.650 --> 00:49:42.119\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): If it's not possible, then we stay in and around the area that they're… they're pricing it. 463\ 00:49:42.490 --> 00:49:45.480\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of the funding models, 464\ 00:49:47.040 --> 00:49:52.200\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of the fully funded, they're taking all the risk. 465\ 00:49:53.050 --> 00:49:58.080\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): It's on their head, they've done their homework, they're ready to fund it for you. 466\ 00:49:58.300 --> 00:50:02.149\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): They agree a cost split between… Between you. 467\ 00:50:02.500 --> 00:50:05.089\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And it's all on their head. 468\ 00:50:05.310 --> 00:50:13.959\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): If someone breaks a charger, reverses into the charger, does something to the charger, it breaks down, it's all on their head. They deal with the lock. 469\ 00:50:14.180 --> 00:50:21.569\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So it's completely stress-free. It's a case of you saying, I've got this plot of land, I would like a charger on it, what can you do? 470\ 00:50:21.990 --> 00:50:22.950\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Basically. 471\ 00:50:23.470 --> 00:50:29.720\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And they will give you some proposals as to what they can do. And then they'll say, look, we can do it. 472\ 00:50:30.120 --> 00:50:36.840\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): But we can give you… and we can give you 40% of the profit of the… profit back. 473\ 00:50:37.270 --> 00:50:41.950\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Or, we can do it, but we can only give you 20% of the profit back, for example. 474\ 00:50:42.120 --> 00:50:43.600\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In turn… so… 475\ 00:50:44.030 --> 00:50:49.810\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): It's quite a hard question to answer without having some case studies behind it, but if it's. 476\ 00:50:49.810 --> 00:50:56.329\ Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: Yeah, I was only asking for… they'll all be different, don't they? So, I was just asking for what's the typical, sort of, what's it look like normally? 477\ 00:50:56.330 --> 00:51:00.920\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So the typical, typical sort of split that we look at. 478\ 00:51:01.790 --> 00:51:11.120\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): At the moment, we do a lot with hotels as well. A nice, kind of, typical split tends to be the 60-40 model. 479\ 00:51:11.650 --> 00:51:16.910\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So, they'll install it, they know that they're not gonna get their money back for… 480\ 00:51:17.450 --> 00:51:27.850\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): 4 years based on this model, but after 4 years, that's when they start to get their money back and start to be able to reinvest that money again in a new location. 481\ 00:51:29.410 --> 00:51:30.700\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): If that makes sense. 482\ 00:51:32.820 --> 00:51:37.669\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Thank you. Let's move on to Andrew, because I know you may be short of time, Andrew. 483\ 00:51:37.670 --> 00:51:50.039\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: No, I'm alright, but, so far. Mine's not really a question, it's really a comment. I'm now dealing in our little parish with the biggest planning application we've ever had. 484\ 00:51:50.370 --> 00:51:53.989\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Put the details of it in the chat. 485\ 00:51:55.200 --> 00:52:05.210\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Basically, I'm the sort of secretary of a small local wildlife group, a wildlife, place, which is registered. 486\ 00:52:05.780 --> 00:52:10.460\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: And welcome break want to tarmac it all, and put in… 487\ 00:52:10.500 --> 00:52:29.329\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: a TRSA, a trunk road service area, capable of dealing with… I think they're proposing to park at least 100 lorries at one go, many of which, or most of which, eventually will be electrical or hydrogen-powered. 488\ 00:52:29.470 --> 00:52:43.389\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: And they have chosen our, little area because we happen to have a service… a National Grid substation, the only one 489\ 00:52:43.670 --> 00:53:03.030\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: in the whole of North Wiltshire down to Somerset, which is… has the, at the moment, has the headroom to cope with this kind of thing, which is basically about as much electricity as used by our… our… our village, which is of 4,000 people. 490\ 00:53:03.730 --> 00:53:16.620\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: And, what we… the problem we've got is that, this, of course, is national infrastructure, which will tilt the balance of planning very much in favor of building. 491\ 00:53:17.090 --> 00:53:31.930\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: so we're trying to think of all the arguments, that we can of not so much opposing it, because I think, I think we're on to a hiding to nerf thing, opposing it, because we're a small nature reserve. 492\ 00:53:32.060 --> 00:53:33.810\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: But, 493\ 00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:51.419\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: how we can actually persuade Welcome Break, or whoever wants to do this, to incorporate the nature reserve, and quite a number of other areas near us, which is a beautiful area of Somerset, into some kind of place where… 494\ 00:53:51.960 --> 00:54:06.119\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: The people who go there, and have to stay there for hours, many, many of them, overnight, perhaps, the lorry drivers, but stay there for a long time, can actually enjoy our countryside at the same time. 495\ 00:54:06.430 --> 00:54:15.169\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: I'm not sure that you have any comments on all this, but one of the issues that we have noticed 496\ 00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:25.470\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: is that one of the reasons why Welcome Break is doing this is that no other service stations are. We've got a lot of service stations between Wincanton and Taunton. 497\ 00:54:25.650 --> 00:54:32.659\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: But none of them offer electrical charging, I think, at the moment. I haven't seen any, anyway. 498\ 00:54:33.070 --> 00:54:42.889\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: So, welcome breaker getting in right at the beginning, and it looks as though we are going to pay the penalty. 499\ 00:54:45.550 --> 00:54:53.000\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah, so, in terms… Obviously, I can't comment as to why they've picked that area, or… 500\ 00:54:53.140 --> 00:54:55.869\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Anything down that sort of stream. 501\ 00:54:57.190 --> 00:54:59.200\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I think they're doing a lot of… 502\ 00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:09.129\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: It's national policy. It's, you know, we're on the A303, which is the second biggest road from the West Country, from London to the West Country, and they have to build these things. 503\ 00:55:09.390 --> 00:55:16.580\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah, I would probably… Probably have a chat with them and see how you can, obviously, incorporate 504\ 00:55:17.860 --> 00:55:23.079\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): The beautiful area with… With that station, if that makes sense. 505\ 00:55:23.080 --> 00:55:31.949\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah. You know, I mean, this is what I'm trying to do. The trouble is, you see, if I'm opposing this on behalf of the village. 506\ 00:55:32.030 --> 00:55:44.309\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: I'm finding it very difficult to say, well, actually, we really ought to recognize that this is going to happen, probably almost certainly will happen. What can we do? 507\ 00:55:44.570 --> 00:56:00.560\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: to make… to turn this place into somewhere that people will enjoy visiting, because they're going to have to spend half an hour, three-quarters of an hour there whenever they come. They're going to have to walk their dogs and their children and so on. The lorry drivers are going to sleep there. 508\ 00:56:00.870 --> 00:56:10.320\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Maybe worth approaching them and seeing as part of their build, whether they can incorporate a nice… a nice little cafe where you can have 509\ 00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:12.470\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Have a job for… 510\ 00:56:12.470 --> 00:56:13.070\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Oh my god. 511\ 00:56:13.070 --> 00:56:17.530\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): person, a play park, a dog area, something like that, that we're… 512\ 00:56:17.530 --> 00:56:22.079\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: The trouble is, there already is a wonderful cafe there, and a park. 513\ 00:56:22.590 --> 00:56:28.190\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: But they're going to bulldoze that as well, because they want toilets, and . 514\ 00:56:28.900 --> 00:56:31.550\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I would, I would potentially Finally. 515\ 00:56:31.780 --> 00:56:34.260\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Suggest that they replace them. 516\ 00:56:36.430 --> 00:56:39.290\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): You can't have your cake and eat it. 517\ 00:56:39.290 --> 00:56:39.690\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Nope. 518\ 00:56:39.690 --> 00:56:50.029\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): saying goes. So, yeah, I would stay pretty firm. Obviously, it's something… it's gonna bring… bring people into the area, they just need to make it nice to. 519\ 00:56:50.030 --> 00:56:50.750\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah. 520\ 00:56:51.220 --> 00:56:52.620\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Nice to. 521\ 00:56:53.310 --> 00:57:00.449\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah, but the question I've asked is, why are not local garages taking it up the thing that you're selling? 522\ 00:57:00.450 --> 00:57:16.010\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I would say that, due to what they're looking to build, you need the available power. So, getting the available power to a certain area, I would say, like you said, you have the available power in that area to… 523\ 00:57:16.450 --> 00:57:23.059\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): To such an extent that… other… other… other areas don't have. 524\ 00:57:23.420 --> 00:57:26.679\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So I would say that's probably why they're doing it in that area. 525\ 00:57:27.140 --> 00:57:30.630\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Wrongly or rightly, but… 526\ 00:57:31.740 --> 00:57:37.330\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): the most cost-effective way of doing an EV installation is as close to the power as you possibly can. 527\ 00:57:37.330 --> 00:57:37.730\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah. 528\ 00:57:37.730 --> 00:57:41.759\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): There's copper costs a lot, obviously digging, the whole lot, it's… 529\ 00:57:42.390 --> 00:57:46.260\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I would say that's why they're doing it in that area, 530\ 00:57:46.650 --> 00:57:50.250\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And… moving forward, you will see a lot that… 531\ 00:57:51.040 --> 00:58:07.249\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): to keep the cost to a minimum, they will be building these areas near the available infrastructure. Otherwise, you need to extend the infrastructure on top of the cost of the installation, which ends up being quite a lot. 532\ 00:58:07.550 --> 00:58:16.790\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah, but are you dealing with small, small, garages, or are you dealing with parishes and things? I mean, do… 533\ 00:58:16.790 --> 00:58:30.909\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): We deal with everyone. I've had a conversation lately with a small garage, that has for a number of charges, 534\ 00:58:31.210 --> 00:58:38.909\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): The power isn't available for that number of charges, so we've reduced it, we've put it on dynamic load balancing, so that 535\ 00:58:39.290 --> 00:58:43.750\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Basically, when you see a bank of charges now, and there's… 536\ 00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:49.520\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): 10, for example, and they all… they say are 150 kilowatts. 537\ 00:58:50.310 --> 00:58:53.989\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Not all 10 of those chargers have 150 kilowatts. 538\ 00:58:53.990 --> 00:58:54.390\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah. 539\ 00:58:54.390 --> 00:58:55.240\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I have… 540\ 00:58:56.020 --> 00:59:05.999\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): they'll be dynamically load balanced. So, once you've plugged in, you're getting 150 kilowatts. Once the next one plugs in, you're probably still getting 150. 541\ 00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:11.989\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Until you get to, obviously, 3, 4, 5 down the line, and then all of a sudden you're getting 60 kilowatts. 542\ 00:59:12.530 --> 00:59:20.959\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): But basically, they're… they're lining up to the amount of available power that's there. So that's… that's the kind of… 543\ 00:59:21.600 --> 00:59:25.769\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): That's the kind of thing that we're currently discussing with them. 544\ 00:59:26.590 --> 00:59:30.250\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Like we were saying earlier, not everywhere has… 545\ 00:59:30.620 --> 00:59:35.480\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): The infrastructure, but it's upgrading as time goes. 546\ 00:59:35.650 --> 00:59:37.549\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And it will… it will expand. 547\ 00:59:39.080 --> 00:59:49.570\ Gary Gee: I think you answered your own question, Andrew, when you said about you know it's going to happen. Maybe you do have to sit down and try and come up with a viable, you know, option for both of you. 548\ 00:59:49.720 --> 01:00:12.059\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah, I think that there is a nationwide discussion among the providers on this sort of thing, led by places like Gloucester, you know, the service station on the M6, which is in a site of special scientific interest and everything, and it's a beautiful place, and people go there for fun. 549\ 01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:12.880\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah. 550\ 01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:21.870\ David Morgan-Jones: Actually, you should gain some significant S106 monies from that project, which you could put into. 551\ 01:00:22.210 --> 01:00:22.820\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: God. 552\ 01:00:22.820 --> 01:00:28.809\ David Morgan-Jones: Charging or greening, part of your, you know, your parish. 553\ 01:00:29.430 --> 01:00:37.889\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: I wonder how much we get. Doesn't… do, S1… does S106, do we get more money if we have a neighbourhood plan? 554\ 01:00:38.390 --> 01:00:52.539\ David Morgan-Jones: No, the S106 is directly related to, the amount of money going into the project, so you might actually end up with a significant amount of S106, but you have to have very clear projects for which you're going to put the money towards. 555\ 01:00:52.770 --> 01:00:56.089\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: That is a thought that we must… must, 556\ 01:00:56.650 --> 01:00:59.920\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah, we must look into that one. Thanks very much for that. 557\ 01:00:59.920 --> 01:01:16.819\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Andrew, it's a great shame that you don't live anywhere near where they've just spent hundreds of millions of pounds of building a complete new bypass near you, where they could have put in a big charging station that overlooks the Royal Navy flying all of its helicopters around. Great, wouldn't it? 558\ 01:01:16.820 --> 01:01:17.940\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: And they don't… 559\ 01:01:17.940 --> 01:01:18.890\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: something to watch. 560\ 01:01:18.890 --> 01:01:24.740\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Graham, they have, they have, you see. There's one plan there. 561\ 01:01:24.740 --> 01:01:25.139\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: I know. 562\ 01:01:25.140 --> 01:01:36.600\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: It's no electricity. It's… you know Hopkins, who… the big concrete company near there? They have, they've put the plan in for a similar-sized service station, and it's got stuck 563\ 01:01:36.600 --> 01:01:47.569\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Because there's not enough electricity. So they've put a plan in for a huge solar farm, which is going to be turned down there, it's, you know, because it's a natural beauty area. 564\ 01:01:49.460 --> 01:01:51.399\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Sorry, it's Somerset, there's no sunshine. 565\ 01:01:54.740 --> 01:01:58.200\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Kirsten, you've been very patient. Can we come back to you, please? 566\ 01:01:58.330 --> 01:02:12.279\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Right, alright, don't worry, this is an interesting conversation. With reference to it, actually, Andrew, my brain was going, local nature recovery strategies are being adopted everywhere. Is there an angle to help you with people and nature and all of that there? But you probably knew that already. 567\ 01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:19.200\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah, we're part of that. We're actually one of the parishes that we… that's a sort of guinea pig for the Somerset one. 568\ 01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:22.560\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Oh, brilliant. Well, that might help you, then, in terms the response. 569\ 01:02:22.560 --> 01:02:23.560\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: I wish it was. 570\ 01:02:23.560 --> 01:02:32.500\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Anyway, my quick question as a follow-on from the discussions we've been having was, 571\ 01:02:32.820 --> 01:02:35.889\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: In terms of the cost for charging. 572\ 01:02:36.680 --> 01:02:50.120\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: you've been discussing, bringing people into the parish in terms of visitors and things to come to a charger, but I was wondering if there was any way of having a charger that allowed locals to use it at sort of a cheap rate, in inverted commas. 573\ 01:02:50.120 --> 01:03:00.749\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: As though it was on their homes, and visitors coming to businesses to use it at a commercial rate, so that it had a sort of win-win for locals, too. Is that a thing? Is that something that… 574\ 01:03:00.790 --> 01:03:01.670\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: We can do. 575\ 01:03:01.670 --> 01:03:09.029\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah, I believe that is… that is an option. There is… Currently, when we're doing… 576\ 01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:25.390\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): commercial installations, we can… we can set up different price plans. One being, basically, for example, the director of the company pays a pound a kilowatt, whereas the cleaner pays 10p a kilowatt. 577\ 01:03:25.390 --> 01:03:25.710\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: phenomenal. 578\ 01:03:25.710 --> 01:03:36.399\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So you can set up all these different price plans. They can have them so their commercial vehicles are free, for example, charging, because it goes through the company. 579\ 01:03:36.460 --> 01:03:53.109\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So I don't see why there isn't an option, and why it doesn't… I don't know of it existing, but it's a very, very, very good idea. I don't see why there isn't an option where there would be availability for… 580\ 01:03:53.430 --> 01:04:05.160\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): for locals to… to have a reduced rate. I know that it exists for car parking, I've seen it around London, where if you have a locals card. 581\ 01:04:05.380 --> 01:04:10.799\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): You pay a pound for parking in the day… all day, whereas if you're… 582\ 01:04:10.930 --> 01:04:17.270\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): a visitor, you pay £2, for example. So, I'm sure there is potential for… 583\ 01:04:17.270 --> 01:04:18.390\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Siri, yes. 584\ 01:04:18.390 --> 01:04:19.100\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yes. 585\ 01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:36.810\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Okay. When you're segregating by, role in the company, for example, does it take… is it fiddly? Do you have to put loads of codes in, or… because, I mean, one assumes that visitors would want to barrel up and use it without having to do anything, and a local could put in an extra code for locals, as though they were the cleaner or whatever. 586\ 01:04:36.810 --> 01:04:40.599\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Absolutely. So, there… it would probably work through an app. 587\ 01:04:40.930 --> 01:04:45.220\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So the way that… We do it on-site currently. 588\ 01:04:45.530 --> 01:04:58.169\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): You've got your QR codes on the chargers, or your payment terminals. If you're not using the payment terminal or the QR code, then you use an app. So local… you could have a locals app. 589\ 01:04:58.430 --> 01:05:08.590\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): where… where basically they have access to this at a reduced cost to charge. It's something that I can talk to the back offices about. 590\ 01:05:08.850 --> 01:05:13.949\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): and, if you don't mind sharing your details, I can update you on that. 591\ 01:05:13.950 --> 01:05:14.630\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Tokyo. 592\ 01:05:14.820 --> 01:05:20.749\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: That's great, thank you, I appreciate that, because I think that might be a really good incentive plan for some of the parishes that are sort of slightly hovering. 593\ 01:05:20.750 --> 01:05:22.820\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I think it's a fantastic idea. 594\ 01:05:22.820 --> 01:05:25.219\ Kirsten Newble Cambridge: benefit from locals, so… cool. Thanks, that'd be great. 595\ 01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:39.759\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: See them, working on a registration basis, as if your name is registered with the local supplier, then you get the reduced cost, and you can only register if you've got a local address that sort of falls into the area. 596\ 01:05:40.430 --> 01:05:40.820\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): We got. 597\ 01:05:40.820 --> 01:05:46.739\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Just a thought. As Kirsten said, it's going to be a software thing rather than hardware, isn't it? 598\ 01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:59.440\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah, yeah, definitely. It'll all be the back office that controls that, and it will def… there's definitely a potential, to make that happen. We work with back offices closely, so… 599\ 01:05:59.960 --> 01:06:02.110\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I'm sure we can make… achieve that. 600\ 01:06:02.250 --> 01:06:05.050\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In a matter of no time, to be honest. 601\ 01:06:06.270 --> 01:06:15.030\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Morgan, how many back offices are we talking about? The suppliers all over the country? Will it be numbered in hundreds, or dozens, or tens, or three? 602\ 01:06:15.030 --> 01:06:17.339\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Hundreds of back offices. 603\ 01:06:18.220 --> 01:06:18.650\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Right. 604\ 01:06:18.650 --> 01:06:27.899\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah, we could make a back office like that if we wanted to. It wouldn't be the best back office, because that's not our expertise. 605\ 01:06:28.740 --> 01:06:34.060\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So, we leave that to the pros. We only work with back offices we believe in. 606\ 01:06:34.260 --> 01:06:46.529\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And back offices that give back to… there's a lot of them that have very poor communication, very poor help when something goes wrong, because eventually things do go wrong, right? 607\ 01:06:47.420 --> 01:06:52.880\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In our town, there's a charger that hasn't worked for… Weeks, months? 608\ 01:06:53.010 --> 01:06:57.259\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): There's 4 sockets in our town, 22 kilowatts. 609\ 01:06:57.780 --> 01:07:02.159\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And for as long as I know, one socket hasn't worked. 610\ 01:07:02.260 --> 01:07:07.610\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): why it hasn't worked, I don't know, but… It's… 611\ 01:07:09.410 --> 01:07:13.200\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Using the right back offices allow you to… 612\ 01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:17.919\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Find out sooner, allow you to monitor it, 613\ 01:07:18.690 --> 01:07:24.059\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And yeah, we work with a very small amount of back offices. There is… there is probably hundreds. 614\ 01:07:24.690 --> 01:07:29.700\ Gary Gee: With the back offices we use, we tend to find out there's anything fought before you. 615\ 01:07:30.140 --> 01:07:33.279\ Gary Gee: So, you know, they sort of notify us straight away. 616\ 01:07:33.820 --> 01:07:35.110\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah, I would get an email. 617\ 01:07:35.110 --> 01:07:38.820\ Gary Gee: on-site before you would even know it. That's how we work with ours. 618\ 01:07:39.300 --> 01:07:41.020\ Gary Gee: Because they come direct to us. 619\ 01:07:41.020 --> 01:07:49.749\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: You're answering a couple of questions that were put to me by somebody who wasn't sure whether he'd going to be able to make it today, so he gave me the questions and everything, and one of them was, indeed. 620\ 01:07:49.820 --> 01:08:09.360\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: that as he drives around quite a lot with his EV, he discovers plenty of charging points that don't work, or are inappropriate, that they're giving you an overnight rate of, you know, 7.2 kilowatts, and you're only there for 10 minutes, so it's inapplicable. Or there may be a local rule that says you can't park there for more than one hour. 621\ 01:08:09.540 --> 01:08:14.410\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Which is inconvenient for somebody who's trying to change their car for 7 hours. 622\ 01:08:14.410 --> 01:08:17.470\ Gary Gee: That's more to do with people coming in, making money, and getting out. 623\ 01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:28.969\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Well, I think that's right, that you're suggesting that, there are facilities or organizations which are better than others, and you only deal with the more reputable ones. Okay, that's a big help. 624\ 01:08:29.250 --> 01:08:43.069\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Well, we only deal with the ones that we believe in, the ones that we can easily contact, the ones that will be there when we need them, because at the end of the day, we're going to be the first point of call, we're going to be the one that the customer's gonna come to. 625\ 01:08:43.069 --> 01:08:50.619\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And we need to back… back ourselves if we're gonna have a back office that isn't gonna look after us, then we… 626\ 01:08:51.170 --> 01:08:56.329\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): We can't deliver the service that we truly believe in to the customer, so… 627\ 01:08:56.460 --> 01:09:01.329\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah, if we're using one of the hundreds and hundreds out there. 628\ 01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:06.220\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): That aren't gonna give you that service, then we're keeping ourselves. 629\ 01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:12.889\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Well, that's fine where you're the supplier, but you're not going to be the supplier to every one of our parishes across the country, so… 630\ 01:09:12.890 --> 01:09:13.990\ Gary Gee: Well, we couldn't. 631\ 01:09:16.970 --> 01:09:17.929\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): You want us to be good. 632\ 01:09:18.229 --> 01:09:20.839\ Gary Gee: We do cover the UK, but yes. 633\ 01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:23.099\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: I'm very glad this isn't a sales call, anyway. 634\ 01:09:25.569 --> 01:09:32.009\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Andrew, you've got your hand up. Is that a forgetful one, or is it the… another question? 635\ 01:09:34.810 --> 01:09:37.200\ Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Forgetfulness, Grant, tell me. 636\ 01:09:38.090 --> 01:09:40.490\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Okay, well, 637\ 01:09:41.100 --> 01:09:49.390\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: We're nearing the end of the hour. Could I let check with anyone if there's any questions that haven't been asked that you'd desperately like to ask in the next couple of minutes? 638\ 01:09:49.950 --> 01:10:09.549\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: And I don't see any hands being raised. So, let me say to Gary and Morgan, thank you very much. I think that's been very helpful to a lot of people, perhaps reassuring to those councils, which, as Kirsten mentioned, is sort of hovering on the edge of do we, don't we, and this may well be enough to tip them over the edge, so thank you very much for your time, really appreciate it. 639\ 01:10:09.550 --> 01:10:14.540\ Gary Gee: You're more than welcome. We're happy to, give you our details if anybody's got any questions. 640\ 01:10:14.540 --> 01:10:18.009\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Well, I was just gonna go on to say that, we… 641\ 01:10:18.180 --> 01:10:34.400\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: the session has been recorded, and we publish the recording and the presentation that you sent us, and the details of the conversation in the chat, so everyone is contactable. I will, if you like, put your… well, your… you've put your contact details in the slide. 642\ 01:10:34.400 --> 01:10:38.419\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: But I'll make it available to everybody on the list as well, so that 643\ 01:10:38.420 --> 01:10:40.910\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: They can all just get in touch with you and go from there. 644\ 01:10:41.340 --> 01:10:42.210\ Gary Gee: Thank you for your time. 645\ 01:10:42.210 --> 01:10:47.180\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: I'm sure the likes of the questioners that Dave and Kirsten will be in touch with you anyway. 646\ 01:10:47.400 --> 01:10:47.760\ Gary Gee: Okay. 647\ 01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:53.920\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: So, much appreciated. For those of you who are very keen to know what's going to happen next week… 648\ 01:10:54.020 --> 01:11:03.330\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: If I've remembered properly, we're going to get a chat next week from Bruce. Let me just see what I've done with it. 649\ 01:11:05.480 --> 01:11:08.739\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Bear with me, my forgetfulness is magnificent. 650\ 01:11:09.430 --> 01:11:10.369\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: And huge. 651\ 01:11:21.750 --> 01:11:30.510\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Next week is the 19th. Okay, so, Climate Action Network, from Frank Geese up in Scotland. 652\ 01:11:30.510 --> 01:11:42.360\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: He's going to tell us how they've pulled together all the local areas into a climate action network, and how we can do the same elsewhere in the country. So, for those of you who want to know why you aren't part of a network. 653\ 01:11:42.530 --> 01:11:49.619\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: This is the occasion to come. So, thank you all very much, thank you for your time, thank you, and see you next time, whenever that is. 654\ 01:11:49.620 --> 01:11:51.650\ Gary Gee: Thank you. Bye, bye. 655\ 01:11:51.650 --> 01:11:52.260\ MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Hey. *** ### Markdown copy of Presentation (for AI Search engine) ## MB Electrical EV Ltd – Isle of Wight EV Charging Presentation

### Driving Sustainable Tourism Across the Isle of Wight *** ## Welcome *** ## Introduction
### Powering the Future of Transport on the Isle of Wight * The shift to electric vehicles (EVs) is accelerating across the UK. * The Isle of Wight has a unique opportunity to lead in sustainable transport. * Installing EV chargers supports businesses, residents, and visitors alike. *** ## The Rise of Electric Vehicles * Over 1.1 million EVs now on UK roads (as of 2025). * Government commitment to net zero by 2050. * Growing demand for EV-friendly destinations. *** ## Why It Matters for the Isle of Wight * Island economy relies heavily on tourism and local commerce. * Visitors increasingly travel in EVs and expect charging facilities. * Providing chargers helps attract eco-conscious travellers. * Local fleets and residents benefit from convenient charging.
Statistic (example): “80% of EV drivers plan travel routes based on charging availability.” *** ## Business Benefits of EV Chargers
### 1. Increase Footfall & Dwell Time * EV drivers spend more time at charging locations — increasing on-site sales.
### 2. Boost Reputation & Sustainability * Demonstrate environmental responsibility. * Align with green tourism and local sustainability goals.
### 3. Generate Revenue * Offer paid charging via app-based systems. * Option for loyalty or free charging for customers.
### 4. Future-Proof Your Business * Stay ahead of regulations and infrastructure trends. *** ## Suitable Business Types * Hotels, B\&Bs, and holiday parks * Pubs, cafés, and restaurants * Retail parks and supermarkets * Visitor attractions and leisure centres * Local councils and transport hubs *** ## Case Studies
#### Case 1: Hotel on the South Coast * Installed 2 fast chargers. * Reported 20% increase in overnight stays from EV drivers.
#### Case 2: Rural Pub in Dorset * Added 1 rapid charger. * Average customer dwell time doubled. *** ## Funding Partners & Grants * Government OZEV Grants for workplace and commercial sites. * Local Council initiatives supporting green infrastructure. * Partnerships with: * Go Zero * Pair Park *** ## How to Get Started 1. Assess your site – parking, power capacity, and visitor needs. 2. Choose charging type – fast, rapid, or ultra-rapid. 3. Apply for funding or partner with a provider. 4. Promote your new facility through tourism channels. *** ## The Vision for the Isle of Wight * A connected, green transport network. * Businesses leading the charge toward sustainability. * Attracting visitors who share the island’s environmental values.
Quote: “Sustainability isn’t just good for the planet — it’s good for business.” *** ## Next Steps
Get booked in today for a free site survey with any one of us * Tailored proposal * Funding & grant review * Installation timeline *** ## Contact
Let’s Power the Future of Tourism Together * Email: * Phone: 01983-668068 *** ## Q\&A * Open floor for questions. * Contact details for follow-up discussions.