Banter 95: 12Nov25 Public EV Chargers - installation and funding, with Gary Gee and Morgan Davies
Gary and Morgan covered the types of EV chargers available, the reasons for doing so, and the range of funding options that can be used
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00:00 - 14:09 Presentation
14:09 - 52:54 (end) Q & A
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Nov 12, 2025 11:47 AM London ID: 834 5460 8536
Quick recap
The main focus was on electric vehicle charging infrastructure, where MB Electrical presented plans for installing EV chargers across the Isle of Wight and discussed various funding models and installation options. The session concluded with discussions about EV charging infrastructure benefits, costs, and implementation challenges, including grid connections and local economic impacts, with an announcement about next week's climate action network session.
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Parish EV Charging Solutions Discussion
Graham welcomed attendees to the meeting, including Gary and Morgan, and requested participants to update their Zoom names for identification. Morgan, currently in Wales, shared updates about his location and work. Gary, representing MB Electrical EV Limited, introduced the company's focus on electrical vehicle chargers and their aim to assist parish councils in finding financial solutions for future-proofing their communities. The meeting was set to proceed with Morgan presenting slides on opportunities for parish councils, with Graham noting that some attendees might leave early.
EV Charging Infrastructure for Tourism
MB Electrical presented a plan to install electric vehicle charging stations across the Isle of Wight to support sustainable tourism and meet growing demand for EV-friendly destinations. Gary explained that 1.1 million EVs are now on UK roads, with government commitments to reach net zero by 2050, making EV charging infrastructure crucial for attracting eco-conscious travelers. The presentation highlighted benefits including increased footfall, dwell time, and sales for local businesses, while also supporting environmental goals and future-proofing against regulations.
Contacts:
Morgan and Gary are both very open to helping parish councils to install public EV Chargers, and are glad to discuss options with anyone interested in further information, without obligation:
Gary Gee: [email protected]. 01983-668068
Morgan Davies: [email protected]
Chat:
00:10:39 Graham Stoddart-Stones: “Our Earth Week” this week is running a fascinating session this week on Community Radio, and Katie Chubb will be talking to us about it on 03Dec25 - please see here: https://thecommunityradioenvironmentnetwork.com/our-earth-week/
00:17:40 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Graham - I may have to leave before the end - please forgive
00:37:07 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Here in Martock we have the other side of this issue. I am one of a small team that looks after a small nature area near a roundabout on the A303, the Roman Fosse way and now the second most popular route west from London.
Welcome Break want to concrete over our nature area, now a registered Local Wildlife Site because of its extraordinary range of rare insects. Our problem is that we are close to the only Substation on our 30 mile bit of road with the headroom to power a TRSA which will need as much electricity as our village - Martock.
What we would like to see is local petrol garages tooling up to take up this market - particularly for commercial vehicles and (soon) HGVs Why are they not? Is it expense? Or is it just failing to plan for the market?
01:10:48 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Many thanks for the session.
Audio-transcript:
212 00:18:58.940 --> 00:19:04.100 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Would you, like to start the ball rolling, please? You can introduce yourself, tell us.
213 00:19:04.100 --> 00:19:05.060 Gary Gee: Yes, thanks.
214 00:19:05.060 --> 00:19:06.570 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Go ahead and do it, feel free.
215 00:19:07.210 --> 00:19:18.089 Gary Gee: So, just gonna… obviously, good… good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for letting us come on to this today. My name's Gary. I am the General Manager of MB Electrical EV Limited.
216 00:19:18.210 --> 00:19:22.830 Gary Gee: So, I'm based on the Isle of Wight. We have 3…
217 00:19:23.060 --> 00:19:29.830 Gary Gee: offices across the country, one in Uxbridge, or London, and one in Wales, where Morgan is today.
218 00:19:29.990 --> 00:19:34.410 Gary Gee: So we specialize in electrical vehicle charges.
219 00:19:34.910 --> 00:19:43.840 Gary Gee: So we are, as you will probably know, electrical vehicles are becoming increasingly common across the Isle of Wight and the UK.
220 00:19:43.980 --> 00:19:47.459 Gary Gee: So we look at solutions and hopefully help
221 00:19:48.020 --> 00:19:52.009 Gary Gee: Parish councils like yourself find financial solutions.
222 00:19:52.210 --> 00:20:00.830 Gary Gee: to help you future-proof the area and the community. That's basically what we do. We specialize in electrical vehicle chargers.
223 00:20:01.100 --> 00:20:05.520 Gary Gee: So, obviously…
224 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:15.490 Gary Gee: What we'd like to probably do today is just briefly outline any opportunities for the parish councils across the country, and obviously give you some knowledge, confidence.
225 00:20:15.620 --> 00:20:17.710 Gary Gee: And information to move forward.
226 00:20:18.500 --> 00:20:25.679 Gary Gee: Morgan will hopefully put the slides up, and then we can sort of follow the slides when you're ready.
227 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:29.510 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Amazing. Am I okay to share the screen?
228 00:20:29.510 --> 00:20:30.730 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Oh yes, go for it, please.
229 00:20:30.730 --> 00:20:33.919 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I'm hope… I'm hoping I can share a screen.
230 00:20:35.230 --> 00:20:36.490 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Da-da-da…
231 00:20:36.730 --> 00:20:41.520 Gary Gee: Yeah, you have to apologize, because it was short notice, we've been, right around you guys.
232 00:20:41.520 --> 00:20:43.670 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Yeah, very good of you, thank you.
233 00:20:43.820 --> 00:20:45.480 Gary Gee: That's okay, we'll get there.
234 00:20:48.060 --> 00:20:51.639 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I believe I am sharing my screen currently.
235 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:57.189 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Yes, if you click on the allow, that should be good. Oh, there we go. Perfect, yep.
236 00:20:57.660 --> 00:21:06.480 Gary Gee: Obviously, we did a show on the island, and some of this will be based around the island, but it is generic.
237 00:21:07.740 --> 00:21:15.469 Gary Gee: Oh, the volume's gone up. Yeah, so, so obviously welcome, and as I said, we're MB Electrical. We're there to,
238 00:21:15.930 --> 00:21:19.639 Gary Gee: drive sustainable tourism across the Isle of Wight and the UK.
239 00:21:20.040 --> 00:21:24.160 Gary Gee: So… It basically,
240 00:21:24.730 --> 00:21:31.829 Gary Gee: The shift in electric vehicles you see across the UK is over a million vehicles now on the road, which is electric vehicles.
241 00:21:32.170 --> 00:21:37.080 Gary Gee: And the… well, the Isle of Wight, we had a massive opportunity to lead in this.
242 00:21:37.270 --> 00:21:42.780 Gary Gee: So, as you can see… sorry, there's 1.1 million EVs now on the road.
243 00:21:43.070 --> 00:21:47.760 Gary Gee: The government have committed to do a net zero by 2050.
244 00:21:48.230 --> 00:21:56.460 Gary Gee: And, obviously, there's growing demand for EV-friendly destinations, and what that means is the drivers are looking for destinations
245 00:21:56.590 --> 00:22:06.320 Gary Gee: to visit, to stay, to go and look at, and they will look at the opportunities to where they can charge. So they'll be looking at your parishes and your businesses.
246 00:22:06.360 --> 00:22:18.100 Gary Gee: And they will go to the ones with charging points. So… so why do we do it? So obviously, because it's been growing so far in the last two years, and these targets have to be it.
247 00:22:18.180 --> 00:22:22.790 Gary Gee: We want to future-proof you, your parish, and your businesses.
248 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:28.240 Gary Gee: And by doing that, we're hoping that putting electric vehicle,
249 00:22:28.550 --> 00:22:34.680 Gary Gee: charges in will help that. So… Why it matters.
250 00:22:37.070 --> 00:22:38.729 Gary Gee: We on the island…
251 00:22:38.810 --> 00:22:49.889 Gary Gee: rely heavily on tourism and local commerce, and I suggest most of you do. Visitors increase… increasingly travel in EVs and expect charging facilities.
252 00:22:49.920 --> 00:23:06.159 Gary Gee: Providing chargers helps attract eco-conscious travellers, and local fleets and residents benefit from convenient charging. So what that means is, your parish, your people, your community.
253 00:23:06.220 --> 00:23:11.399 Gary Gee: We'll all benefit for any charges you feel you may need across your parish.
254 00:23:11.600 --> 00:23:24.479 Gary Gee: So there is a statistic on there. 80% of EV drivers plan their travel routes based on charging availability, and that's quite high. And only 48% will actually go
255 00:23:24.780 --> 00:23:33.379 Gary Gee: to, a place that hasn't got a charger. So that tells you there's, you know, 52% of people bypassing areas
256 00:23:33.550 --> 00:23:36.529 Gary Gee: Local communities,
257 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:44.280 Gary Gee: So, what's the benefit? The benefits are there. They increase footfall and dwell time within your area.
258 00:23:44.600 --> 00:24:02.989 Gary Gee: They spend more time at charging location, which increase in on-site sales, so any shops or local residents or businesses around there will also have increased sales. You'll boost your reputation with sustainability, you'll demonstrate environmental responsibility.
259 00:24:03.190 --> 00:24:11.080 Gary Gee: And we're aligned with green tourism and local sustainability goals. That's important, because you're in line with your local goals.
260 00:24:11.210 --> 00:24:28.509 Gary Gee: Obviously, they generate revenue, but we're not here to sales pitch. We're here just to give you a basics of what we do. They do offer a paid charging app, which you can do, which Morgan will talk about later, and there is options for loyal and free charging for customers.
261 00:24:28.570 --> 00:24:37.059 Gary Gee: But mainly, this is all to future-proof any businesses. Stay ahead of any regulations and infrastructure trends.
262 00:24:38.630 --> 00:24:48.520 Gary Gee: So, we also have an… obviously, the environmental benefit is massive, supporting your climate goals, reducing your air pollution and your carbon footprint.
263 00:24:48.860 --> 00:24:52.480 Gary Gee: So, what are the options?
264 00:24:52.700 --> 00:24:54.400 Gary Gee: If you go to the next one, MORC,
265 00:24:56.290 --> 00:25:04.379 Gary Gee: So, let's go to, suitable business types. So, as you can see there, you know, it's not a long list, it's hotels.
266 00:25:04.500 --> 00:25:06.710 Gary Gee: B&bs, holiday parks.
267 00:25:06.840 --> 00:25:14.840 Gary Gee: pubs, cafes, restaurants, retail parks and supermarkets, and attractions around your area. You know, so…
268 00:25:15.690 --> 00:25:26.630 Gary Gee: If you're looking to improve your infrastructure, and you have all these businesses and supermarkets and attractions around you, the EV charging point is a massive tick.
269 00:25:26.950 --> 00:25:29.320 Gary Gee: Next one's log.
270 00:25:30.050 --> 00:25:36.909 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): it does bring a lot of… a lot of tourism into the areas. I live in a little town myself in Wales.
271 00:25:37.070 --> 00:25:48.410 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And I'm forever seeing on these Facebook groups, so on and so forth, where people are like, oh, we can't do this, we're not bringing these people in, why isn't the grass cut, why isn't this done? And obviously.
272 00:25:48.890 --> 00:25:56.209 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): the pot of money isn't endless, but what a good thing is with EV charging, one, it'll bring people in
273 00:25:56.430 --> 00:26:07.939 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): But it'll also produce a revenue that will allow the nice flowers, the cutting of the grass, and stuff like that. It brings in an extra revenue, which is really important, I believe.
274 00:26:08.950 --> 00:26:09.950 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Sorry, Gary.
275 00:26:10.090 --> 00:26:16.610 Gary Gee: That's alright, that's good. So, obviously, we did have some example cases,
276 00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:26.049 Gary Gee: And, excuse me. So, as you can see, you know, 20% increase overnight stays for… from EV drivers in local hotels.
277 00:26:26.170 --> 00:26:35.429 Gary Gee: You know, again, that 20% is a massive boost to the local economy. You know, they don't just stay in a hotel, they'll walk around your area, they will spend in your shops.
278 00:26:35.550 --> 00:26:44.979 Gary Gee: And then, obviously, there was a rural pub in Dorset, you know, they just appeared one rapid charger, and their average customer time doubled.
279 00:26:45.090 --> 00:26:56.200 Gary Gee: So they saw such an increase of people staying longer, eating, spending more money, just by putting one charger in. So you can see there's a massive benefit.
280 00:26:56.640 --> 00:27:00.100 Gary Gee: So, next one, more.
281 00:27:02.280 --> 00:27:16.340 Gary Gee: So, obviously, what you're all keen to look at, because obviously the cost is a massive factor, so there are funding partners, and we deal with all these partners, so we… we can go through the OZEV government grant, so that's for a workplace.
282 00:27:16.600 --> 00:27:36.549 Gary Gee: And they do commercial sites as well. We have local initiatives we can look into for you. We can't do it for you, but we can help you, guide you through it. And then, obviously, we're in partnership, as we said on the day, with Go Zero and Pear Park. I will let Morgan just explain more about the funding now.
283 00:27:36.570 --> 00:27:40.359 Gary Gee: For the 3 different, or 4 different options there.
284 00:27:40.980 --> 00:27:53.109 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So, yeah, funding options, obviously, cash is always tight. There is options for funding out there, if it's something that you're interested in having in your areas.
285 00:27:54.730 --> 00:28:13.229 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): there's a couple of different models. You can get a fully funded option, where there's a 40-60 split in revenue, profits. So even though you're not putting any money down, you don't have to look after them, you don't have to manage them, you don't have to do anything, you're still getting a revenue.
286 00:28:13.300 --> 00:28:26.160 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): from that charging infrastructure being in place. Obviously, it also brings in people, to the local area and the local economy. So, the fully funded option.
287 00:28:26.280 --> 00:28:34.869 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Is really popular. It does depend on the spot, if it… if you've got a lot of charging around, so on and so forth.
288 00:28:35.380 --> 00:28:38.030 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): it may not be suitable.
289 00:28:38.270 --> 00:28:40.100 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): They… they do owe.
290 00:28:40.310 --> 00:28:45.699 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Sorry, also offer a… a part-funded option, so…
291 00:28:45.870 --> 00:29:00.240 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): That's where you gain a lot more of the control back, and you can gain a lot more money. So, if you do have a pot of funds available for EV charging, that might be an option where you can get a lot more bang for your buck.
292 00:29:00.390 --> 00:29:03.170 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): But then also, if you want to have full control.
293 00:29:03.280 --> 00:29:09.340 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): then you can obviously fund it yourself. But in terms of…
294 00:29:09.570 --> 00:29:11.860 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of funding options, they're…
295 00:29:12.470 --> 00:29:26.509 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): it can be rarely as flexible as you want. And if it's something that you're interested in, please obviously reach out to us, and even if it's just for a bit of advice, then we're more than happy to help.
296 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:30.350 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Push… push the goal of…
297 00:29:31.030 --> 00:29:35.350 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): of, EV, because the destination charging really is important.
298 00:29:36.210 --> 00:29:53.359 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): it's a… I don't know how many of you have EVs, but in terms of… it's not the same driving as just popping to the fuel station and topping up. It's rarely a case of plugging in as and where you are, and it's more part of life rather than
299 00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.380 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Just topping up your fuel as and when.
300 00:29:57.820 --> 00:30:11.449 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So yeah, I'll welcome any, obviously, any questions on funding. I can help with that, towards the end, but don't want to deep dive into it too much, because it may not be… may not be for everyone.
301 00:30:11.800 --> 00:30:13.390 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): What's the next?
302 00:30:14.120 --> 00:30:15.140 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): There we go.
303 00:30:15.430 --> 00:30:26.859 Gary Gee: So I'll just, I'll let you know, what's the options for your parish council? Village halls to put them at? Parish car parks, shops, pubs, community centres, even recreation grounds.
304 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.260 Gary Gee: You know, think where people visit you.
305 00:30:30.410 --> 00:30:32.950 Gary Gee: And where you can make that extra revenue.
306 00:30:33.070 --> 00:30:47.090 Gary Gee: and hit your sustainability goals. That's basically… So, you know, there's a basic thing on there, is how to get started. What we would do, if we were coming to you, is we'd just assess your site, your parking, your power. It's quite straightforward.
307 00:30:47.280 --> 00:30:55.080 Gary Gee: We would talk to you about charging types. So, you know, you have a 7.4 kilowatt, which is basically your domestic at home.
308 00:30:55.120 --> 00:31:09.689 Gary Gee: that you see on people's houses, up to 22 kilowatt, and then obviously we can have the bigger DC and, bigger kilowatts for faster charging. But we… we will go through that with you, what's perfect for you.
309 00:31:09.980 --> 00:31:18.529 Gary Gee: Apply for funding or partner provider. Again, we can't do it for you, but we can guide you. Like Morgan said, we're happy to take any calls.
310 00:31:18.550 --> 00:31:33.950 Gary Gee: offline, and, you know, guide you through anything you need. And then what that does is it promotes your new facility through tourism channels, so you can actually promote that you have these on site, they're there, they're working, and they're working to full capacity.
311 00:31:38.310 --> 00:31:45.739 Gary Gee: So, basically, what we… we looked at the Isle of Wight, where it's a connected… what we need is a connected green transport network, but this is for everyone.
312 00:31:45.770 --> 00:32:04.389 Gary Gee: business leading the change forward and towards sustainability. You want to attract visitors and keep your community happy. It's not all about visitors, it's the people that live there, and who show your environmental values, because as it says there, sustainability isn't just good for the planet, it is good for business.
313 00:32:08.850 --> 00:32:19.849 Gary Gee: We would normally say this for when we're on site, you know, like, presenting for sales, we would, you know, get yourself booked in and all that, but like we said to Graham earlier, we're not here as a sales pitch.
314 00:32:19.990 --> 00:32:23.500 Gary Gee: We would like you to understand the need
315 00:32:24.310 --> 00:32:34.829 Gary Gee: to, you know, get those electric vehicle charging points to get people to your parishes. That's the main thing. And if we do that, we've won today, because it's not all about, you know, us
316 00:32:34.950 --> 00:32:45.430 Gary Gee: trying to get money out your pocket, you know, though we'd be happy to install them all, don't get me wrong. So there is funding options, you know, there is,
317 00:32:45.940 --> 00:32:51.749 Gary Gee: Different types of chargers, so basically, you know, we will just provide you with what you need.
318 00:32:52.060 --> 00:32:59.889 Gary Gee: So, you know, EV charges are a practical step towards, you know, more connected community and cleaner air.
319 00:33:00.210 --> 00:33:02.770 Gary Gee: So, you know, support your local residents.
320 00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:06.550 Gary Gee: So, is there any questions or answers we can help you with?
321 00:33:09.310 --> 00:33:18.489 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: I have a couple, please, Gary, and thank you very much for that. The first one was, could you just highlight for people what
322 00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:29.670 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: types are available in terms of those, charges that pop up from the pavement, but disappear when they're not in use. I know that there are
323 00:33:29.700 --> 00:33:41.379 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: solutions to cables across the pavement, which is more likely to be useful for householders, but there are going to be plenty of homeowners asking, what can the council advise them to do, so… Yeah.
324 00:33:41.380 --> 00:33:41.700 Gary Gee: Nope.
325 00:33:41.700 --> 00:33:42.600 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: everything there.
326 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:55.089 Gary Gee: Obviously, you have your standard 7.4 kilowatt, which is your domestic. So anybody that has a car at home, generally, unless you have a free phase outfit, will always have a 7.4 kilowatt.
327 00:33:55.170 --> 00:34:08.619 Gary Gee: Disregard the curbo ones, the curbo charge, as they're called, they are enforced, so what they do is they allow you to live in a residential area, and the charge is, is,
328 00:34:09.449 --> 00:34:11.070 Gary Gee: Put into the pavement.
329 00:34:11.460 --> 00:34:29.590 Gary Gee: And then there's a seal that goes over the top, and then you can run it across a pavement into a road. They're called turbocharge, and the Isle of Wight now is just starting to look at doing that, because it has to be going for planning. I know the Isle of Wight are not far off agreeing to those, so look into your local councils for that.
330 00:34:29.670 --> 00:34:38.030 Gary Gee: And then, obviously, anything bigger, Morgan will be able to explain what you need for that, probably better than me, but…
331 00:34:38.030 --> 00:34:38.400 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah.
332 00:34:38.409 --> 00:34:38.839 Gary Gee: Welcome.
333 00:34:39.100 --> 00:34:48.340 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah, so, like Gary was saying about the turbocharge, it is re… it's a really good option for people that don't have off-street parking.
334 00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:54.430 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): It allows people to be able to charge at those cheaper tariffs,
335 00:34:54.679 --> 00:35:00.340 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): around about 7p a kilowatt, so it's really… it's really good to… to educate
336 00:35:00.460 --> 00:35:10.559 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): people in the local areas that… that is available, so that they don't feel abandoned when adopting EV, because a lot of the time, EV comes
337 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.029 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Onto you as a…
338 00:35:14.070 --> 00:35:25.820 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): a business car, a company car, and they feel like they're under the burden of having to charge it, so on and so forth, it's really expensive. But there is those options out there.
339 00:35:26.040 --> 00:35:36.110 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of your bigger charges, so commercially what… so your 7.4 kilowatt will charge your car in roughly about 8 hours.
340 00:35:36.230 --> 00:35:38.549 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So it's good for a day charge.
341 00:35:38.890 --> 00:35:55.160 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): an overnight charge. If you're gonna be in work all day, and you always park all day, a 7.4 kilowatt is perfect, so you can get commercial models of those. You… if you're there for about 4 hours.
342 00:35:55.740 --> 00:35:56.800 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): A rounder golf.
343 00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:06.299 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): a nice meal, get some bowling, those type of areas. 4-hour charge, you're gonna be looking at a 22kW charger.
344 00:36:06.640 --> 00:36:13.299 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Anything above that, you're going to be looking at a DC. So, if you pop into your local supermarket and you want to plug in.
345 00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:19.520 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): you could look at a small DC where you're gonna get 40 kilowatts worth of charge in
346 00:36:20.110 --> 00:36:26.419 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In an hour, or you could look even higher, where you can… you can start charging a lot quicker.
347 00:36:26.590 --> 00:36:34.630 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Obviously, the revenue goes per kilowatt, so the quicker you can put that power into the car, the more revenue you're gonna get.
348 00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:35.750 David Bourn: It's…
349 00:36:37.150 --> 00:36:41.250 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): It sounds… quite complicated.
350 00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:45.850 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Honestly, it… I'm here for any questions, so…
351 00:36:46.230 --> 00:36:49.209 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Please fire away, in terms of charging.
352 00:36:50.380 --> 00:36:53.860 David Bourn: Plenty of hands raised, so let's start with you, Stuart, please.
353 00:36:55.540 --> 00:36:58.819 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Thank you, that's all very, interesting.
354 00:36:59.810 --> 00:37:04.240 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I, I, I, I've got an electric charge, charge, electric car.
355 00:37:04.410 --> 00:37:08.260 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: And I must confess, I've never charged it in public.
356 00:37:08.610 --> 00:37:19.330 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: But I am a bit horrified at the perkilowatt charge of some of these charges, and there's a lot of, sort of, street talk, saying.
357 00:37:20.020 --> 00:37:24.920 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: If you're charging one of these expensive charges, it's cheaper to actually run a petrol car.
358 00:37:26.380 --> 00:37:31.480 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Which I think is a major problem. But I'm also interested in the,
359 00:37:31.700 --> 00:37:36.469 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Architecture of the cars. Mine's a 400 volt.
360 00:37:37.060 --> 00:37:42.270 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Architecture, and it will charge at a maximum rate of about 150 kilowatts.
361 00:37:42.640 --> 00:37:50.120 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I gather most modern cars are now moving over to, 800-volt architecture.
362 00:37:50.350 --> 00:38:01.629 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: And they will charge at an even higher rate. They're talking about over 350 kilowatts, and this, that, and the other. What infrastructure are you putting in
363 00:38:01.770 --> 00:38:06.230 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: To allow for future changes to the charging systems.
364 00:38:06.890 --> 00:38:12.749 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: And how are the grid connections for these super-fast chargers working out?
365 00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.250 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Absolutely. So, in terms of…
366 00:38:17.700 --> 00:38:33.589 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Before I did this, I was, I worked in industrial electrics, and we did a lot of work with the grid, installing massive, massive banks of batteries at the base of all these massive pylons and substations.
367 00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:38.659 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): That is basically how they're supporting the network.
368 00:38:38.730 --> 00:38:55.879 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): What they're also doing, in regards to supporting the network is, as things evolve, as an electrician, as an EV installer, we should be installing biodirectional RCBOs, we should be installing everything to spec.
369 00:38:56.400 --> 00:39:03.069 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So, what that will allow is basically when you get these peak demands of energy,
370 00:39:03.650 --> 00:39:08.010 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): You'll be able to draw, basically, for example, a kilowatt.
371 00:39:08.720 --> 00:39:11.289 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Out of your car, and then replace it.
372 00:39:11.580 --> 00:39:14.209 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): That kilowatt times a million.
373 00:39:14.600 --> 00:39:16.540 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): cars across the UK.
374 00:39:16.740 --> 00:39:19.280 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): supports a grid. So, although…
375 00:39:19.530 --> 00:39:23.860 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): There is a lot of talk about how's the grid gonna cope, so on and so forth.
376 00:39:24.190 --> 00:39:28.409 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): that… They've been planning years ahead to…
377 00:39:28.670 --> 00:39:36.280 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): To give a lot of support to the grid with these… these fields for the batteries, that are supporting the grid.
378 00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:48.680 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of the chargers themselves, I… exactly like you say, there's… there's different cars, different models, there's… there's so many different variants of how fast cars can charge.
379 00:39:49.110 --> 00:39:51.979 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): When it comes to DC, cars will accept
380 00:39:52.250 --> 00:39:57.189 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): what they're limited to. So, for example, like you said, yours is 150 kilowatts.
381 00:39:58.810 --> 00:40:15.669 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): what they've made is everything uniform with your Type 2 sockets, your DC sockets, so all cars will accept the same socket, and all cars will limit themselves to the amount of power they can take. So if I was to plug into a 500kW charger.
382 00:40:15.770 --> 00:40:22.519 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): and my car could only take 100 kilowatts, it would only take 100 kilowatts. Whereas, if I was to plug into…
383 00:40:22.890 --> 00:40:27.809 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Like, I'm getting a bit complicated here, so please excuse me.
384 00:40:28.250 --> 00:40:34.089 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): you get your AC charging, where you have a onboard inverter.
385 00:40:34.180 --> 00:40:53.269 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): With this onboard inverter, that transfers your energy from AC to DC, because your batteries accept DC. Some cars take 11 kilowatts, some cars take 7.4 kilowatts, some take 22 kilowatts. So there's a lot of variance, but…
386 00:40:53.810 --> 00:40:57.399 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Oh, the grid can cope, and also your car will.
387 00:40:58.370 --> 00:41:01.559 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Listen to what it can take, and take what it can.
388 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:07.229 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Does that answer your question? Sorry, I don't know if I went off on a bit of a tangent.
389 00:41:09.710 --> 00:41:13.300 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I'm still a bit concerned about local grid connections.
390 00:41:13.520 --> 00:41:21.160 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of local grid connections, it is all based on what your…
391 00:41:21.470 --> 00:41:25.699 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Main distribution hub has available.
392 00:41:26.290 --> 00:41:27.500 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Obviously.
393 00:41:28.250 --> 00:41:39.670 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): they are continually upgrading. I know they upgraded the one in our local town recently. They're continually doing upgrades to local grid connections.
394 00:41:39.670 --> 00:41:42.619 David Bourn: And it'll only expand further and further.
395 00:41:42.620 --> 00:41:49.279 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Obviously, there will be areas where the grids can only accept a certain amount, 100%.
396 00:41:50.350 --> 00:41:58.630 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): That's why they're also in… all these energy firms with their cheaper tariffs, it's based on a…
397 00:41:59.090 --> 00:42:08.920 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): dynamic pricing, so you get your cheap charging during the night, that's inviting everybody to charge at night, because that's when the grid is at its…
398 00:42:09.070 --> 00:42:15.719 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): leased, basically. That's when there's a lot of availability. So, when everybody's charging at home.
399 00:42:16.110 --> 00:42:19.929 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): It's normally at night, allowing a lot more free energy during the day.
400 00:42:20.430 --> 00:42:22.759 David Bourn: For these hubs, basically.
401 00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:26.200 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): To… to become available.
402 00:42:28.520 --> 00:42:29.609 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Okay, thank you.
403 00:42:30.200 --> 00:42:31.389 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Best them, please.
404 00:42:33.160 --> 00:42:52.790 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Hi, that was a very interesting talk, thank you. I, am here with a community group hat on, rather than a council, but we're working with the local council. We've recently had, EV charges, proposed and declined, for reasons that are beyond me. So, my question is.
405 00:42:53.250 --> 00:43:02.950 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Are there any significant blocks that you are discovering with councils, having issues? Are there particular roadblocks I should be aware of that are generic?
406 00:43:02.950 --> 00:43:13.509 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: And are there… can you give me a feel for the sort of… I know it's how long's a piece of string, but a sort of average setup cost, because maybe that was the block in this case.
407 00:43:13.510 --> 00:43:20.399 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Of course. In terms of the blocks themselves, they are making it a lot easier without any…
408 00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:29.580 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): removing any restrictions for planning for EV charging. So there's no real blocks that I can see in general.
409 00:43:29.700 --> 00:43:35.590 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): There may be still cases that need planning when it comes to special
410 00:43:35.950 --> 00:43:42.799 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): special areas, like, listed… listed areas, stuff like that.
411 00:43:43.120 --> 00:43:58.330 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of that, we'd be more than willing to work with you to come to an arrangement, speak to the councils, and find an option for you to achieve your goal. In terms of costing, like you said, it really is, how long's a piece of string?
412 00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.600 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I've…
413 00:44:02.290 --> 00:44:09.100 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): It's really hard to say, if I'm gonna be honest. I think, in terms… I can give you the costings for…
414 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:15.129 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): for example… A… a job that we are currently looking at.
415 00:44:15.340 --> 00:44:24.440 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): It's a 80kW DC and a 22kW AC. There's…
416 00:44:24.610 --> 00:44:35.170 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): A cost of £50,000 for the installation of these. The cable run is around about 70 meters.
417 00:44:35.710 --> 00:44:41.510 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of their return on investment, we're looking at breaking even at year 3.
418 00:44:41.660 --> 00:44:51.079 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): With a total income at year 10, including their maintenance of around about £470,000.
419 00:44:51.230 --> 00:44:54.189 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Based on… based on two charges.
420 00:44:56.430 --> 00:45:05.860 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: I think you may well have just answered the question in terms of the parish better than you realize, and that's very helpful. Thank you. Sorry, it was a bit of a tricky one.
421 00:45:05.860 --> 00:45:19.969 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): No, no, not a problem whatsoever. Obviously, there is lots of funding options available, lots of companies out there that are willing to install chargers, and scale with
422 00:45:20.090 --> 00:45:39.520 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): with the local area. So, I work closely with a number of, with a number of funding partners that will install one charger, and once that charger's being used up to 60% of the time, for example, they'll install another, and another, and another, to…
423 00:45:39.640 --> 00:45:54.090 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): to keep up with the demand of the local area, not costing you guys any money whatsoever. In fact, it will just earn you money as you go, because you'll be taking a percentage of the profit for… for having that location, basically.
424 00:45:55.790 --> 00:46:15.559 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: I think you clarified that very well at the beginning, where you can say, councils can decide what sort of return that they want, and it'll depend upon how much capital they put up front. So if they put up no capital up front, there's no initial capital cost to them, then their return will obviously be lower and slower.
425 00:46:15.730 --> 00:46:22.709 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: But if they want full control, as you suggested, then they have to put the money up. It's a matter of, what works for you.
426 00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:28.119 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Okay, let's move on to David, please. Dave Faulkner.
427 00:46:29.530 --> 00:46:31.199 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: Hi, yeah,
428 00:46:31.680 --> 00:46:39.480 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: kind of two questions in one, and I think it might get a bit complicated, so forgive me. So I've got an EV, and I…
429 00:46:39.610 --> 00:46:43.770 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: charge… lucky enough to charge at home normally, except when I go on long journeys.
430 00:46:44.100 --> 00:46:51.840 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: And on long journeys, I'll typically charge on the motorway, because it's so convenient, there's normally one available, they're super fast.
431 00:46:52.230 --> 00:46:55.090 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: Stop for 15 minutes, and job done.
432 00:46:56.050 --> 00:47:00.610 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: So, how do you make a… kind of smaller…
433 00:47:01.150 --> 00:47:04.810 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: Destination charger compete with that?
434 00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:13.869 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: I mean, what are… it's not… I mean, what are people doing is the question, really. I mean, how are they charging for it, I suppose? Are they undercutting the motorway?
435 00:47:14.150 --> 00:47:17.200 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: you know, the ATP type… tariffs.
436 00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:19.880 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: And by how much, typically.
437 00:47:20.170 --> 00:47:24.410 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: And that's… so that's one thing. And then that goes on to…
438 00:47:24.740 --> 00:47:28.239 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: If you are going to put some money up locally, what's the…
439 00:47:28.900 --> 00:47:32.450 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: Who's taking the risk on the, the usage?
440 00:47:32.970 --> 00:47:38.819 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: You say, because there's these… these funding models are, you know, there's a revenue split agreed.
441 00:47:39.290 --> 00:47:45.630 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: I don't know, is that a revenue split, or a profit split, or, you know, how does that sort of kind of work in practice?
442 00:47:46.490 --> 00:47:52.089 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: Does that make sense? Definitely, it's a good… it's a really good question. Hi, Dave. Thanks.
443 00:47:52.160 --> 00:47:56.750 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I live not far from you, I believe. I live in a little town called Knighton in your Herefordshire.
444 00:47:56.940 --> 00:47:59.079 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: Yeah, I'm just south of Kington, so, yeah.
445 00:47:59.080 --> 00:48:01.030 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Oh, we're Nelly neighbors.
446 00:48:01.030 --> 00:48:01.870 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: Yeah, yeah.
447 00:48:01.870 --> 00:48:08.829 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So yeah, in terms of… How local areas…
448 00:48:09.060 --> 00:48:14.870 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): compete with these motorway ones. So, in reality.
449 00:48:15.090 --> 00:48:21.790 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): how I would price a charger would be a case of looking at all the chargers in the local area.
450 00:48:22.860 --> 00:48:27.319 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Making sure it's viable, obviously, with the cost of energy.
451 00:48:27.470 --> 00:48:31.299 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Your maintenance, your installation costs, so on and so forth.
452 00:48:31.580 --> 00:48:35.299 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And then we… Model a plan on how
453 00:48:35.780 --> 00:48:43.479 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): we can make your charger the most attractive charger in that area. So yes, maybe cut… undercutting them by 1 or 2p.
454 00:48:44.050 --> 00:48:54.260 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I'm not gonna lie, I've been to many EV stations or petrol stations, and driven an extra mile to get that one piece cheaper, even though it's cost me…
455 00:48:54.790 --> 00:49:08.190 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Probably more… Probably not worthwhile, is it? Yeah, no, absolutely not, but it's just the human brain, isn't it? Yeah. We used to do that with petrol prices, yeah. Absolutely, I… I drive…
456 00:49:08.450 --> 00:49:15.919 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): 2-3 miles to get to my local, well, not-so-local petrol station, because they're… they're cheaper than the one in my town.
457 00:49:16.040 --> 00:49:18.480 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And I know that's not quite right, but it's…
458 00:49:18.590 --> 00:49:22.810 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): It's quite a big bet, like, 10p cheaper. It's.
459 00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:24.949 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: It's a lot. It's a lot.
460 00:49:25.090 --> 00:49:26.800 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of…
461 00:49:27.510 --> 00:49:36.469 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): How we model your chargers, we would go down that route of slightly undercutting them, but making sure that you're making a decent amount of money.
462 00:49:36.650 --> 00:49:42.119 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): If it's not possible, then we stay in and around the area that they're… they're pricing it.
463 00:49:42.490 --> 00:49:45.480 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of the funding models,
464 00:49:47.040 --> 00:49:52.200 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In terms of the fully funded, they're taking all the risk.
465 00:49:53.050 --> 00:49:58.080 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): It's on their head, they've done their homework, they're ready to fund it for you.
466 00:49:58.300 --> 00:50:02.149 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): They agree a cost split between… Between you.
467 00:50:02.500 --> 00:50:05.089 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And it's all on their head.
468 00:50:05.310 --> 00:50:13.959 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): If someone breaks a charger, reverses into the charger, does something to the charger, it breaks down, it's all on their head. They deal with the lock.
469 00:50:14.180 --> 00:50:21.569 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So it's completely stress-free. It's a case of you saying, I've got this plot of land, I would like a charger on it, what can you do?
470 00:50:21.990 --> 00:50:22.950 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Basically.
471 00:50:23.470 --> 00:50:29.720 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And they will give you some proposals as to what they can do. And then they'll say, look, we can do it.
472 00:50:30.120 --> 00:50:36.840 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): But we can give you… and we can give you 40% of the profit of the… profit back.
473 00:50:37.270 --> 00:50:41.950 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Or, we can do it, but we can only give you 20% of the profit back, for example.
474 00:50:42.120 --> 00:50:43.600 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In turn… so…
475 00:50:44.030 --> 00:50:49.810 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): It's quite a hard question to answer without having some case studies behind it, but if it's.
476 00:50:49.810 --> 00:50:56.329 Dave Faulkner Herefordshire: Yeah, I was only asking for… they'll all be different, don't they? So, I was just asking for what's the typical, sort of, what's it look like normally?
477 00:50:56.330 --> 00:51:00.920 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So the typical, typical sort of split that we look at.
478 00:51:01.790 --> 00:51:11.120 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): At the moment, we do a lot with hotels as well. A nice, kind of, typical split tends to be the 60-40 model.
479 00:51:11.650 --> 00:51:16.910 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So, they'll install it, they know that they're not gonna get their money back for…
480 00:51:17.450 --> 00:51:27.850 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): 4 years based on this model, but after 4 years, that's when they start to get their money back and start to be able to reinvest that money again in a new location.
481 00:51:29.410 --> 00:51:30.700 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): If that makes sense.
482 00:51:32.820 --> 00:51:37.669 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Thank you. Let's move on to Andrew, because I know you may be short of time, Andrew.
483 00:51:37.670 --> 00:51:50.039 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: No, I'm alright, but, so far. Mine's not really a question, it's really a comment. I'm now dealing in our little parish with the biggest planning application we've ever had.
484 00:51:50.370 --> 00:51:53.989 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Put the details of it in the chat.
485 00:51:55.200 --> 00:52:05.210 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Basically, I'm the sort of secretary of a small local wildlife group, a wildlife, place, which is registered.
486 00:52:05.780 --> 00:52:10.460 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: And welcome break want to tarmac it all, and put in…
487 00:52:10.500 --> 00:52:29.329 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: a TRSA, a trunk road service area, capable of dealing with… I think they're proposing to park at least 100 lorries at one go, many of which, or most of which, eventually will be electrical or hydrogen-powered.
488 00:52:29.470 --> 00:52:43.389 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: And they have chosen our, little area because we happen to have a service… a National Grid substation, the only one
489 00:52:43.670 --> 00:53:03.030 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: in the whole of North Wiltshire down to Somerset, which is… has the, at the moment, has the headroom to cope with this kind of thing, which is basically about as much electricity as used by our… our… our village, which is of 4,000 people.
490 00:53:03.730 --> 00:53:16.620 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: And, what we… the problem we've got is that, this, of course, is national infrastructure, which will tilt the balance of planning very much in favor of building.
491 00:53:17.090 --> 00:53:31.930 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: so we're trying to think of all the arguments, that we can of not so much opposing it, because I think, I think we're on to a hiding to nerf thing, opposing it, because we're a small nature reserve.
492 00:53:32.060 --> 00:53:33.810 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: But,
493 00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:51.419 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: how we can actually persuade Welcome Break, or whoever wants to do this, to incorporate the nature reserve, and quite a number of other areas near us, which is a beautiful area of Somerset, into some kind of place where…
494 00:53:51.960 --> 00:54:06.119 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: The people who go there, and have to stay there for hours, many, many of them, overnight, perhaps, the lorry drivers, but stay there for a long time, can actually enjoy our countryside at the same time.
495 00:54:06.430 --> 00:54:15.169 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: I'm not sure that you have any comments on all this, but one of the issues that we have noticed
496 00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:25.470 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: is that one of the reasons why Welcome Break is doing this is that no other service stations are. We've got a lot of service stations between Wincanton and Taunton.
497 00:54:25.650 --> 00:54:32.659 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: But none of them offer electrical charging, I think, at the moment. I haven't seen any, anyway.
498 00:54:33.070 --> 00:54:42.889 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: So, welcome breaker getting in right at the beginning, and it looks as though we are going to pay the penalty.
499 00:54:45.550 --> 00:54:53.000 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah, so, in terms… Obviously, I can't comment as to why they've picked that area, or…
500 00:54:53.140 --> 00:54:55.869 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Anything down that sort of stream.
501 00:54:57.190 --> 00:54:59.200 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I think they're doing a lot of…
502 00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:09.129 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: It's national policy. It's, you know, we're on the A303, which is the second biggest road from the West Country, from London to the West Country, and they have to build these things.
503 00:55:09.390 --> 00:55:16.580 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah, I would probably… Probably have a chat with them and see how you can, obviously, incorporate
504 00:55:17.860 --> 00:55:23.079 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): The beautiful area with… With that station, if that makes sense.
505 00:55:23.080 --> 00:55:31.949 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah. You know, I mean, this is what I'm trying to do. The trouble is, you see, if I'm opposing this on behalf of the village.
506 00:55:32.030 --> 00:55:44.309 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: I'm finding it very difficult to say, well, actually, we really ought to recognize that this is going to happen, probably almost certainly will happen. What can we do?
507 00:55:44.570 --> 00:56:00.560 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: to make… to turn this place into somewhere that people will enjoy visiting, because they're going to have to spend half an hour, three-quarters of an hour there whenever they come. They're going to have to walk their dogs and their children and so on. The lorry drivers are going to sleep there.
508 00:56:00.870 --> 00:56:10.320 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Maybe worth approaching them and seeing as part of their build, whether they can incorporate a nice… a nice little cafe where you can have
509 00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:12.470 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Have a job for…
510 00:56:12.470 --> 00:56:13.070 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Oh my god.
511 00:56:13.070 --> 00:56:17.530 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): person, a play park, a dog area, something like that, that we're…
512 00:56:17.530 --> 00:56:22.079 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: The trouble is, there already is a wonderful cafe there, and a park.
513 00:56:22.590 --> 00:56:28.190 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: But they're going to bulldoze that as well, because they want toilets, and .
514 00:56:28.900 --> 00:56:31.550 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I would, I would potentially Finally.
515 00:56:31.780 --> 00:56:34.260 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Suggest that they replace them.
516 00:56:36.430 --> 00:56:39.290 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): You can't have your cake and eat it.
517 00:56:39.290 --> 00:56:39.690 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Nope.
518 00:56:39.690 --> 00:56:50.029 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): saying goes. So, yeah, I would stay pretty firm. Obviously, it's something… it's gonna bring… bring people into the area, they just need to make it nice to.
519 00:56:50.030 --> 00:56:50.750 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah.
520 00:56:51.220 --> 00:56:52.620 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Nice to.
521 00:56:53.310 --> 00:57:00.449 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah, but the question I've asked is, why are not local garages taking it up the thing that you're selling?
522 00:57:00.450 --> 00:57:16.010 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I would say that, due to what they're looking to build, you need the available power. So, getting the available power to a certain area, I would say, like you said, you have the available power in that area to…
523 00:57:16.450 --> 00:57:23.059 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): To such an extent that… other… other… other areas don't have.
524 00:57:23.420 --> 00:57:26.679 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So I would say that's probably why they're doing it in that area.
525 00:57:27.140 --> 00:57:30.630 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Wrongly or rightly, but…
526 00:57:31.740 --> 00:57:37.330 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): the most cost-effective way of doing an EV installation is as close to the power as you possibly can.
527 00:57:37.330 --> 00:57:37.730 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah.
528 00:57:37.730 --> 00:57:41.759 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): There's copper costs a lot, obviously digging, the whole lot, it's…
529 00:57:42.390 --> 00:57:46.260 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I would say that's why they're doing it in that area,
530 00:57:46.650 --> 00:57:50.250 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And… moving forward, you will see a lot that…
531 00:57:51.040 --> 00:58:07.249 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): to keep the cost to a minimum, they will be building these areas near the available infrastructure. Otherwise, you need to extend the infrastructure on top of the cost of the installation, which ends up being quite a lot.
532 00:58:07.550 --> 00:58:16.790 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah, but are you dealing with small, small, garages, or are you dealing with parishes and things? I mean, do…
533 00:58:16.790 --> 00:58:30.909 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): We deal with everyone. I've had a conversation lately with a small garage, that has for a number of charges,
534 00:58:31.210 --> 00:58:38.909 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): The power isn't available for that number of charges, so we've reduced it, we've put it on dynamic load balancing, so that
535 00:58:39.290 --> 00:58:43.750 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Basically, when you see a bank of charges now, and there's…
536 00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:49.520 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): 10, for example, and they all… they say are 150 kilowatts.
537 00:58:50.310 --> 00:58:53.989 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Not all 10 of those chargers have 150 kilowatts.
538 00:58:53.990 --> 00:58:54.390 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah.
539 00:58:54.390 --> 00:58:55.240 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I have…
540 00:58:56.020 --> 00:59:05.999 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): they'll be dynamically load balanced. So, once you've plugged in, you're getting 150 kilowatts. Once the next one plugs in, you're probably still getting 150.
541 00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:11.989 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Until you get to, obviously, 3, 4, 5 down the line, and then all of a sudden you're getting 60 kilowatts.
542 00:59:12.530 --> 00:59:20.959 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): But basically, they're… they're lining up to the amount of available power that's there. So that's… that's the kind of…
543 00:59:21.600 --> 00:59:25.769 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): That's the kind of thing that we're currently discussing with them.
544 00:59:26.590 --> 00:59:30.250 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Like we were saying earlier, not everywhere has…
545 00:59:30.620 --> 00:59:35.480 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): The infrastructure, but it's upgrading as time goes.
546 00:59:35.650 --> 00:59:37.549 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And it will… it will expand.
547 00:59:39.080 --> 00:59:49.570 Gary Gee: I think you answered your own question, Andrew, when you said about you know it's going to happen. Maybe you do have to sit down and try and come up with a viable, you know, option for both of you.
548 00:59:49.720 --> 01:00:12.059 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah, I think that there is a nationwide discussion among the providers on this sort of thing, led by places like Gloucester, you know, the service station on the M6, which is in a site of special scientific interest and everything, and it's a beautiful place, and people go there for fun.
549 01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:12.880 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah.
550 01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:21.870 David Morgan-Jones: Actually, you should gain some significant S106 monies from that project, which you could put into.
551 01:00:22.210 --> 01:00:22.820 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: God.
552 01:00:22.820 --> 01:00:28.809 David Morgan-Jones: Charging or greening, part of your, you know, your parish.
553 01:00:29.430 --> 01:00:37.889 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: I wonder how much we get. Doesn't… do, S1… does S106, do we get more money if we have a neighbourhood plan?
554 01:00:38.390 --> 01:00:52.539 David Morgan-Jones: No, the S106 is directly related to, the amount of money going into the project, so you might actually end up with a significant amount of S106, but you have to have very clear projects for which you're going to put the money towards.
555 01:00:52.770 --> 01:00:56.089 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: That is a thought that we must… must,
556 01:00:56.650 --> 01:00:59.920 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah, we must look into that one. Thanks very much for that.
557 01:00:59.920 --> 01:01:16.819 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Andrew, it's a great shame that you don't live anywhere near where they've just spent hundreds of millions of pounds of building a complete new bypass near you, where they could have put in a big charging station that overlooks the Royal Navy flying all of its helicopters around. Great, wouldn't it?
558 01:01:16.820 --> 01:01:17.940 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: And they don't…
559 01:01:17.940 --> 01:01:18.890 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: something to watch.
560 01:01:18.890 --> 01:01:24.740 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Graham, they have, they have, you see. There's one plan there.
561 01:01:24.740 --> 01:01:25.139 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: I know.
562 01:01:25.140 --> 01:01:36.600 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: It's no electricity. It's… you know Hopkins, who… the big concrete company near there? They have, they've put the plan in for a similar-sized service station, and it's got stuck
563 01:01:36.600 --> 01:01:47.569 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Because there's not enough electricity. So they've put a plan in for a huge solar farm, which is going to be turned down there, it's, you know, because it's a natural beauty area.
564 01:01:49.460 --> 01:01:51.399 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Sorry, it's Somerset, there's no sunshine.
565 01:01:54.740 --> 01:01:58.200 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Kirsten, you've been very patient. Can we come back to you, please?
566 01:01:58.330 --> 01:02:12.279 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Right, alright, don't worry, this is an interesting conversation. With reference to it, actually, Andrew, my brain was going, local nature recovery strategies are being adopted everywhere. Is there an angle to help you with people and nature and all of that there? But you probably knew that already.
567 01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:19.200 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah, we're part of that. We're actually one of the parishes that we… that's a sort of guinea pig for the Somerset one.
568 01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:22.560 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Oh, brilliant. Well, that might help you, then, in terms the response.
569 01:02:22.560 --> 01:02:23.560 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: I wish it was.
570 01:02:23.560 --> 01:02:32.500 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Anyway, my quick question as a follow-on from the discussions we've been having was,
571 01:02:32.820 --> 01:02:35.889 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: In terms of the cost for charging.
572 01:02:36.680 --> 01:02:50.120 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: you've been discussing, bringing people into the parish in terms of visitors and things to come to a charger, but I was wondering if there was any way of having a charger that allowed locals to use it at sort of a cheap rate, in inverted commas.
573 01:02:50.120 --> 01:03:00.749 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: As though it was on their homes, and visitors coming to businesses to use it at a commercial rate, so that it had a sort of win-win for locals, too. Is that a thing? Is that something that…
574 01:03:00.790 --> 01:03:01.670 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: We can do.
575 01:03:01.670 --> 01:03:09.029 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah, I believe that is… that is an option. There is… Currently, when we're doing…
576 01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:25.390 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): commercial installations, we can… we can set up different price plans. One being, basically, for example, the director of the company pays a pound a kilowatt, whereas the cleaner pays 10p a kilowatt.
577 01:03:25.390 --> 01:03:25.710 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: phenomenal.
578 01:03:25.710 --> 01:03:36.399 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So you can set up all these different price plans. They can have them so their commercial vehicles are free, for example, charging, because it goes through the company.
579 01:03:36.460 --> 01:03:53.109 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So I don't see why there isn't an option, and why it doesn't… I don't know of it existing, but it's a very, very, very good idea. I don't see why there isn't an option where there would be availability for…
580 01:03:53.430 --> 01:04:05.160 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): for locals to… to have a reduced rate. I know that it exists for car parking, I've seen it around London, where if you have a locals card.
581 01:04:05.380 --> 01:04:10.799 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): You pay a pound for parking in the day… all day, whereas if you're…
582 01:04:10.930 --> 01:04:17.270 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): a visitor, you pay £2, for example. So, I'm sure there is potential for…
583 01:04:17.270 --> 01:04:18.390 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Siri, yes.
584 01:04:18.390 --> 01:04:19.100 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yes.
585 01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:36.810 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Okay. When you're segregating by, role in the company, for example, does it take… is it fiddly? Do you have to put loads of codes in, or… because, I mean, one assumes that visitors would want to barrel up and use it without having to do anything, and a local could put in an extra code for locals, as though they were the cleaner or whatever.
586 01:04:36.810 --> 01:04:40.599 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Absolutely. So, there… it would probably work through an app.
587 01:04:40.930 --> 01:04:45.220 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So the way that… We do it on-site currently.
588 01:04:45.530 --> 01:04:58.169 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): You've got your QR codes on the chargers, or your payment terminals. If you're not using the payment terminal or the QR code, then you use an app. So local… you could have a locals app.
589 01:04:58.430 --> 01:05:08.590 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): where… where basically they have access to this at a reduced cost to charge. It's something that I can talk to the back offices about.
590 01:05:08.850 --> 01:05:13.949 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): and, if you don't mind sharing your details, I can update you on that.
591 01:05:13.950 --> 01:05:14.630 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Tokyo.
592 01:05:14.820 --> 01:05:20.749 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: That's great, thank you, I appreciate that, because I think that might be a really good incentive plan for some of the parishes that are sort of slightly hovering.
593 01:05:20.750 --> 01:05:22.820 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I think it's a fantastic idea.
594 01:05:22.820 --> 01:05:25.219 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: benefit from locals, so… cool. Thanks, that'd be great.
595 01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:39.759 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: See them, working on a registration basis, as if your name is registered with the local supplier, then you get the reduced cost, and you can only register if you've got a local address that sort of falls into the area.
596 01:05:40.430 --> 01:05:40.820 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): We got.
597 01:05:40.820 --> 01:05:46.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Just a thought. As Kirsten said, it's going to be a software thing rather than hardware, isn't it?
598 01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:59.440 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah, yeah, definitely. It'll all be the back office that controls that, and it will def… there's definitely a potential, to make that happen. We work with back offices closely, so…
599 01:05:59.960 --> 01:06:02.110 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): I'm sure we can make… achieve that.
600 01:06:02.250 --> 01:06:05.050 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In a matter of no time, to be honest.
601 01:06:06.270 --> 01:06:15.030 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Morgan, how many back offices are we talking about? The suppliers all over the country? Will it be numbered in hundreds, or dozens, or tens, or three?
602 01:06:15.030 --> 01:06:17.339 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Hundreds of back offices.
603 01:06:18.220 --> 01:06:18.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Right.
604 01:06:18.650 --> 01:06:27.899 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah, we could make a back office like that if we wanted to. It wouldn't be the best back office, because that's not our expertise.
605 01:06:28.740 --> 01:06:34.060 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): So, we leave that to the pros. We only work with back offices we believe in.
606 01:06:34.260 --> 01:06:46.529 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And back offices that give back to… there's a lot of them that have very poor communication, very poor help when something goes wrong, because eventually things do go wrong, right?
607 01:06:47.420 --> 01:06:52.880 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): In our town, there's a charger that hasn't worked for… Weeks, months?
608 01:06:53.010 --> 01:06:57.259 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): There's 4 sockets in our town, 22 kilowatts.
609 01:06:57.780 --> 01:07:02.159 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And for as long as I know, one socket hasn't worked.
610 01:07:02.260 --> 01:07:07.610 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): why it hasn't worked, I don't know, but… It's…
611 01:07:09.410 --> 01:07:13.200 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Using the right back offices allow you to…
612 01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:17.919 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Find out sooner, allow you to monitor it,
613 01:07:18.690 --> 01:07:24.059 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And yeah, we work with a very small amount of back offices. There is… there is probably hundreds.
614 01:07:24.690 --> 01:07:29.700 Gary Gee: With the back offices we use, we tend to find out there's anything fought before you.
615 01:07:30.140 --> 01:07:33.279 Gary Gee: So, you know, they sort of notify us straight away.
616 01:07:33.820 --> 01:07:35.110 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah, I would get an email.
617 01:07:35.110 --> 01:07:38.820 Gary Gee: on-site before you would even know it. That's how we work with ours.
618 01:07:39.300 --> 01:07:41.020 Gary Gee: Because they come direct to us.
619 01:07:41.020 --> 01:07:49.749 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: You're answering a couple of questions that were put to me by somebody who wasn't sure whether he'd going to be able to make it today, so he gave me the questions and everything, and one of them was, indeed.
620 01:07:49.820 --> 01:08:09.360 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: that as he drives around quite a lot with his EV, he discovers plenty of charging points that don't work, or are inappropriate, that they're giving you an overnight rate of, you know, 7.2 kilowatts, and you're only there for 10 minutes, so it's inapplicable. Or there may be a local rule that says you can't park there for more than one hour.
621 01:08:09.540 --> 01:08:14.410 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Which is inconvenient for somebody who's trying to change their car for 7 hours.
622 01:08:14.410 --> 01:08:17.470 Gary Gee: That's more to do with people coming in, making money, and getting out.
623 01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:28.969 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Well, I think that's right, that you're suggesting that, there are facilities or organizations which are better than others, and you only deal with the more reputable ones. Okay, that's a big help.
624 01:08:29.250 --> 01:08:43.069 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Well, we only deal with the ones that we believe in, the ones that we can easily contact, the ones that will be there when we need them, because at the end of the day, we're going to be the first point of call, we're going to be the one that the customer's gonna come to.
625 01:08:43.069 --> 01:08:50.619 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): And we need to back… back ourselves if we're gonna have a back office that isn't gonna look after us, then we…
626 01:08:51.170 --> 01:08:56.329 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): We can't deliver the service that we truly believe in to the customer, so…
627 01:08:56.460 --> 01:09:01.329 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Yeah, if we're using one of the hundreds and hundreds out there.
628 01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:06.220 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): That aren't gonna give you that service, then we're keeping ourselves.
629 01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:12.889 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Well, that's fine where you're the supplier, but you're not going to be the supplier to every one of our parishes across the country, so…
630 01:09:12.890 --> 01:09:13.990 Gary Gee: Well, we couldn't.
631 01:09:16.970 --> 01:09:17.929 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): You want us to be good.
632 01:09:18.229 --> 01:09:20.839 Gary Gee: We do cover the UK, but yes.
633 01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:23.099 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: I'm very glad this isn't a sales call, anyway.
634 01:09:25.569 --> 01:09:32.009 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Andrew, you've got your hand up. Is that a forgetful one, or is it the… another question?
635 01:09:34.810 --> 01:09:37.200 Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Forgetfulness, Grant, tell me.
636 01:09:38.090 --> 01:09:40.490 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Okay, well,
637 01:09:41.100 --> 01:09:49.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: We're nearing the end of the hour. Could I let check with anyone if there's any questions that haven't been asked that you'd desperately like to ask in the next couple of minutes?
638 01:09:49.950 --> 01:10:09.549 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: And I don't see any hands being raised. So, let me say to Gary and Morgan, thank you very much. I think that's been very helpful to a lot of people, perhaps reassuring to those councils, which, as Kirsten mentioned, is sort of hovering on the edge of do we, don't we, and this may well be enough to tip them over the edge, so thank you very much for your time, really appreciate it.
639 01:10:09.550 --> 01:10:14.540 Gary Gee: You're more than welcome. We're happy to, give you our details if anybody's got any questions.
640 01:10:14.540 --> 01:10:18.009 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Well, I was just gonna go on to say that, we…
641 01:10:18.180 --> 01:10:34.400 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: the session has been recorded, and we publish the recording and the presentation that you sent us, and the details of the conversation in the chat, so everyone is contactable. I will, if you like, put your… well, your… you've put your contact details in the slide.
642 01:10:34.400 --> 01:10:38.419 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: But I'll make it available to everybody on the list as well, so that
643 01:10:38.420 --> 01:10:40.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: They can all just get in touch with you and go from there.
644 01:10:41.340 --> 01:10:42.210 Gary Gee: Thank you for your time.
645 01:10:42.210 --> 01:10:47.180 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: I'm sure the likes of the questioners that Dave and Kirsten will be in touch with you anyway.
646 01:10:47.400 --> 01:10:47.760 Gary Gee: Okay.
647 01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:53.920 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: So, much appreciated. For those of you who are very keen to know what's going to happen next week…
648 01:10:54.020 --> 01:11:03.330 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: If I've remembered properly, we're going to get a chat next week from Bruce. Let me just see what I've done with it.
649 01:11:05.480 --> 01:11:08.739 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Bear with me, my forgetfulness is magnificent.
650 01:11:09.430 --> 01:11:10.369 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: And huge.
651 01:11:21.750 --> 01:11:30.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: Next week is the 19th. Okay, so, Climate Action Network, from Frank Geese up in Scotland.
652 01:11:30.510 --> 01:11:42.360 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: He's going to tell us how they've pulled together all the local areas into a climate action network, and how we can do the same elsewhere in the country. So, for those of you who want to know why you aren't part of a network.
653 01:11:42.530 --> 01:11:49.619 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge IoW: This is the occasion to come. So, thank you all very much, thank you for your time, thank you, and see you next time, whenever that is.
654 01:11:49.620 --> 01:11:51.650 Gary Gee: Thank you. Bye, bye.
655 01:11:51.650 --> 01:11:52.260 MB ELECTRICAL EV (WALES): Hey.
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MB Electrical EV Ltd – Isle of Wight EV Charging Presentation
Driving Sustainable Tourism Across the Isle of Wight
Welcome
Introduction
Powering the Future of Transport on the Isle of Wight
The shift to electric vehicles (EVs) is accelerating across the UK.
The Isle of Wight has a unique opportunity to lead in sustainable transport.
Installing EV chargers supports businesses, residents, and visitors alike.
The Rise of Electric Vehicles
Over 1.1 million EVs now on UK roads (as of 2025).
Government commitment to net zero by 2050.
Growing demand for EV-friendly destinations.
Why It Matters for the Isle of Wight
Island economy relies heavily on tourism and local commerce.
Visitors increasingly travel in EVs and expect charging facilities.
Providing chargers helps attract eco-conscious travellers.
Local fleets and residents benefit from convenient charging.
Statistic (example):
“80% of EV drivers plan travel routes based on charging availability.”
Business Benefits of EV Chargers
1. Increase Footfall & Dwell Time
EV drivers spend more time at charging locations — increasing on-site sales.
2. Boost Reputation & Sustainability
Demonstrate environmental responsibility.
Align with green tourism and local sustainability goals.
3. Generate Revenue
Offer paid charging via app-based systems.
Option for loyalty or free charging for customers.
4. Future-Proof Your Business
Stay ahead of regulations and infrastructure trends.
Suitable Business Types
Hotels, B&Bs, and holiday parks
Pubs, cafés, and restaurants
Retail parks and supermarkets
Visitor attractions and leisure centres
Local councils and transport hubs
Case Studies
Case 1: Hotel on the South Coast
Installed 2 fast chargers.
Reported 20% increase in overnight stays from EV drivers.
Case 2: Rural Pub in Dorset
Added 1 rapid charger.
Average customer dwell time doubled.
Funding Partners & Grants
Government OZEV Grants for workplace and commercial sites.
Local Council initiatives supporting green infrastructure.
Partnerships with:
Go Zero
Pair Park
How to Get Started
Assess your site – parking, power capacity, and visitor needs.
Choose charging type – fast, rapid, or ultra-rapid.
Apply for funding or partner with a provider.
Promote your new facility through tourism channels.
The Vision for the Isle of Wight
A connected, green transport network.
Businesses leading the charge toward sustainability.
Attracting visitors who share the island’s environmental values.
Quote:
“Sustainability isn’t just good for the planet — it’s good for business.”
Next Steps
Get booked in today for a free site survey with any one of us
Tailored proposal
Funding & grant review
Installation timeline
Contact
Let’s Power the Future of Tourism Together
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 01983-668068
Q&A
Open floor for questions.
Contact details for follow-up discussions.
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