In her role as Local Authorities Coordinator for the Carbon Literacy Project, Abby takes us through Carbon Literacy training, future plans to work with Parish and Town councils more closely
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In her role as Local Authorities Coordinator for the Carbon Literacy Project, Abby takes us through Carbon Literacy training, future plans to work with Parish and Town councils more closely, as well as running us through the wider aims of Carbon Literacy, and a few case studies to demonstrate impact.
email address: localauthorities@carbonliteracy.com
website address: https://carbonliteracy.com/local-authorities/
CLAD World Tour Webinar link including message from Ed Miliband:
Newsletter sign-up: https://carbonliteracy.us5.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=da9bee2491826477c5167d342&id=d84c4cff8b
Lyme Case Study link: https://carbonliteracy.com/celebrating-local-councils/
Dec 04, 2024 12:01 PM London ID: 834 5460 8536
Abby from the Carbon Literacy Project discussed the organization's work with local authorities, the success of their courses, and the potential for significant change in the digital and tech sector. The team also discussed the challenges and opportunities of promoting carbon literacy training among local authorities, the importance of engaging young people in environmental initiatives, and the need for effective communication and collaboration. The conversation ended with a discussion about the importance of their work and the need for continued collaboration.
Abby to send the PowerPoint presentation to Graham for distribution to attendees.
Abby to share pledge inspiration documents and create a more bespoke version for parish and town councils.
Abby to follow up with Amanda regarding completing her carbon literacy qualification.
David Morgan-Jones to have a separate discussion with Abby about engaging passive/indifferent parish populations.
Claudine to connect with Abby to discuss case studies of parish and town councils for carbon literacy training.
Carbon Literacy Project Introduction
Abby, the local authorities coordinator for the Carbon Literacy project, introduces herself and attempts to share a presentation about carbon literacy. However, she faces technical difficulties and is unable to share her screen. Instead, she decides to verbally explain the content of her presentation. Andrew acknowledges the technical challenges and suggests proceeding with the discussion.
Carbon Literacy Project's Local Authority Success
Abby from the Carbon Literacy Project discussed the organization's work with local authorities, particularly parish, town, and community councils. She highlighted the success of their courses, which have been taken by over 100 parish councils and 100 town councils, with over 114,000 learners certified. Abby also mentioned the development of a course for the digital and tech sector and the potential for significant change in the sector. She emphasized the importance of peer-to-peer learning and the need for trainers with experience in the local authority sector. Abby also mentioned the upcoming transition to a waiting list model for open courses due to the cessation of Save Our Shropshire's operations. She encouraged councils to reach out to her for further information and potential partnerships.
Lyme Regis Town Council's Achievements
Abby discussed the achievements of Lyme Regis Town Council, who became the first town council to achieve silver carbon literacy status. She highlighted their actions, including installing solar panels, adding electric vehicle chargers, and shifting 30% of the Council's vehicles to electric. Abby also mentioned the work of Carefully Council in Wales, who are creating a public-facing course called 'Carbon Numeracy' using Multiply funding. Lastly, she talked about Warrington Borough Council's innovative approach to maintaining momentum after carbon literacy training, by forming working groups on carbon emissions.
Carbon Literacy Program and Immersive Experience
Abby presented on the carbon literacy program, highlighting its benefits and the positive impact it has had on various councils. She also shared examples of successful implementation in Warrington, Lyme Regis, and Cheltenham. Andrew expressed enthusiasm for the program and suggested putting Abby's presentation on the knowledge base for others to access. Amanda shared her experience with the immersive experience room in Cheltenham and offered to connect Graham with the relevant contacts. The team also discussed the importance of numeracy in the carbon world and the potential for using the immersive experience room for climate numeracy sessions.
Town Councils and Nature Actions
Claudine and Abby discussed the potential actions that town and parish councils could take to increase nature and reduce carbon emissions. Abby mentioned that they take nature actions on a case-by-case basis and encouraged councils to leverage planning departments and community infrastructure levies. Claudine suggested that councils could also consider planting trees and increasing green spaces. Abby agreed to share pledge inspiration documents and was interested in Claudine's suggestion of involving town and parish councils in their work. Michelle, who leads a local eco group, expressed her desire to see more transformative change in her council and asked about the effectiveness of their training. Abby acknowledged the challenges of engaging busy councils and suggested shorter, more flexible training sessions. Andrew suggested a process of training people to help train others, which Claudine and Abby agreed could be a viable action.
Promoting Carbon Literacy in Local Authorities
The discussion revolved around the challenges and opportunities of promoting carbon literacy training among local authorities, particularly parish councils. Abby highlighted the importance of net 0 legislation and the proactive stance of local authorities in declaring climate emergencies. David Newman questioned the motivation for councils to undertake carbon literacy training, to which Abby responded by emphasizing the role of local authorities in working towards net 0 and involving communities in climate action. Graham suggested that sportspeople could be a potential audience for such training, given their experiences with cancelled events and unplayable pitches. The conversation also touched on the need for effective communication and the potential for a shift in terminology from 'climate emergency' to'resilience, wellbeing, and decarbonisation' to better resonate with different audiences.
Course Updates and Parish Collaboration
Abby discussed the new updates to their course, which include a granular level map detailing vulnerabilities to both heat and flooding. She mentioned that they are trying to keep the details as local as possible to help people make a change in their specific area. Andrew expressed his appreciation for the updates and mentioned the need to strengthen links between parishes and high-level authorities. Garry asked about the frequency of updating resources to reflect the current situation, to which Abby responded that while they ideally aim to update materials every month, they have to be realistic due to the volume of courses and materials. David Morgan-Jones then asked about the associated carbon reduction score for each activity, to which Abby explained that they don't have a framework for this due to the wide variations in emissions attached to different actions. David suggested focusing on big wins and making a real difference at the parish level.
Engaging Parish Populations With Climate Change
David Morgan-Jones discussed the challenges of engaging passive and indifferent parish populations with climate change education. He expressed frustration with the lack of funding and policy support from the government. Abby suggested incorporating nature into the education process to motivate people, citing the success of the Britain Talks Climate program. David agreed, but noted the difficulty of engaging wealthy individuals who may not be interested in self-sustaining living. Abby agreed to share her pitch for carbon literacy with David. The team also discussed the importance of addressing the hearts and minds aspect of climate change education.
Engaging Youth in Environmental Initiatives
Abby and Amanda discussed the importance of engaging young people in environmental initiatives and the potential for community-led projects. Amanda shared her experience with the Cotswold National Landscape project, which aims to educate young people about nature and conservation. She also mentioned the formation of a sustainability-focused group in her village, which aims to foster collaboration and community involvement. Abby agreed with the approach, emphasizing the benefits of taking a holistic, co-benefits approach to environmental initiatives. Amanda also expressed her interest in becoming a certified trainer to spread awareness and knowledge about climate change and sustainability. The conversation ended with a mutual appreciation for the session and a shared commitment to promoting environmental awareness and action.
Training and Collaboration Discussion
In the meeting, Abby discussed the slides that were sent to Graham and the possibility of finding a course for the second half of the training. Amanda expressed gratitude and mentioned a need for permission. Andrew emphasized the importance of communication and engagement, and Graham announced that Linda Espy would be returning the following week. Abby thanked everyone for their participation and encouraged them to stay in touch. The conversation ended with a discussion about the importance of their work and the need for continued collaboration.
00:08:10 Helen Sumbler: Hello everyone, hello Abby, I’m working with Belinda Bawden (as part of Dorset CAN) to deliver Carbon Literacy training for Town & Parish Councils and Community groups in Dorset.
00:13:43 Anya Hyndside: Many thanks Abby, I've just got to take a call (so sorry!) but I've looked up your website and may well be in contact in the future.
00:21:42 Amanda Davis: Fantastic! I'm part of Multiply. A national numeracy champion in gloucestershire
00:23:25 Amanda Davis: Have a look at the immersive experience room in the library in a suburb of Cheltenham. A targeted software could be commissioned to do the same as the welsh example
00:27:31 Abby Charlesworth: Reacted to "Fantastic! I'm pa..." with 💚
00:27:39 Abby Charlesworth: Reacted to "Many thanks Abby, ..." with 💚
00:27:47 Abby Charlesworth: Reacted to "Hello everyone, he..." with 💚
00:28:06 Abby Charlesworth: my email at Carbon Literacy: Localauthorities@carbonliteracy.com
00:28:32 Abby Charlesworth: Lyme Regis Case Study link: https://carbonliteracy.com/celebrating-local-councils/
00:29:04 Helen Sumbler: Apologies, I have to go now. If anyone is interested in our Carbon Literacy course, the link is https://www.dorsetcan.org/all_events/carbon-literacy-training/ . We do have further dates which will be advertised on the website soon. Thanks Abby, thanks all.
00:29:04 Abby Charlesworth: link to sign up to our Local Authorities Newsletter: https://carbonliteracy.us5.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=da9bee2491826477c5167d342&id=d84c4cff8b
00:29:11 Abby Charlesworth: Reacted to "Apologies, I have ..." with 💚
00:30:04 Abby Charlesworth: link to watch our Carbon Literacy Action Day World Tour webinar (with Ed Miliband statement): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip1MbqTEJvM
00:34:27 Amanda Davis: Immersive Reality experience is at Oakley Interactive Space, Oakley community library, GL52 5QH and is part of multiply, and national numeracy champions use this. Gloucestershire Contact is Claire Hanson Claire.hanson@gloucestershire.gov.uk 01452 583608
00:38:37 Amanda Davis: To the question of how we get councillors around the country to train in carbon literacy... FOMO!! I ask to do it, then others want to. That was how our council got started
00:38:46 Claudine Pearson: Reacted to "To the question of h..." with 👍🏼
00:39:08 Claudine Pearson: Agreed - we are creating demand in Warwickshire - working with our County Council
00:39:50 Michelle Golder: Follow up question: I'm thinking of changing the title of the plan from the climate emergency plan to something like resilience, wellbeing and decarbonisation plan, because the terminology of emergency seems counterproductive given clear signals everywhere else that an emergency is not being acted upon. Any thoughts on this?
00:43:27 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Agreed, Michelle - ‘emergency’, and ‘climate’, both seem to be becoming turnoffs nowadays - in addition to your word choices, we have suggested including ‘environment’ as a less provocative word
00:45:44 Michelle Golder: Repair cafes are a very effective way to address overconsumption, in my experience...can be transformative.
00:46:15 Andrew Maliphant: Replying to "Follow up question: ..."
I do agree we need to find the right wording for our various audiences - it's all about communication at present. I personally like the word resilience, but happy to talk further - andrew.maliphant@greatcollaboration.uk
00:46:35 David Newman: Actually, 3 three worst contributors to the cost of living crisis where I live are energy costs, food costs and household good repair and replacement cost.
00:48:19 Claudine Pearson: I used Britain Talks Climate in my pitch to TPCs - why should you become a carbon literate coincil -
00:49:05 Michelle Golder: Replying to "I used Britain Talks..."
Would you be up for sharing your pitch?
00:49:24 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: David, Roy Hopkins has written a book called ‘From What Is to What If’ which addresses the issues you raise about getting local buy-in and enthusiasm
00:50:22 Claudine Pearson: I love this reminder of how to communicate with different segments https://climateoutreach.org/britain-talks-climate/what-is-britain-talks-climate/
00:50:51 Claudine Pearson: Replying to "I used Britain Talks..."
https://www.walc.org.uk/carbon-literacy-for-parish-and-town-councils/
00:50:58 David Newman: People want nature, but in the form of short cut grass.
00:51:22 Claudine Pearson: Replying to "I used Britain Talks..."
please do feel free to comment - as it could do with external eyes
00:51:28 Michelle Golder: Replying to "I used Britain Talks..."
"Sorry, but you do not have permission to view this content."
00:52:40 Claudine Pearson: Replying to "I used Britain Talks..."
I'll change permissions - and can send if you give me your email address
00:53:06 Michelle Golder: Replying to "I used Britain Talks..."
michellegolder@gmail.com
00:53:17 Michelle Golder: Replying to "I used Britain Talks..."
Thank you!
00:54:11 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: https://www.educationnaturepark.org.uk gives the details on the National Education Nature Parks
00:54:39 Claudine Pearson: Reacted to "Thank you!" with 👍🏼
00:56:15 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): Apologies need to leave to join another meeting. Thank you all
00:57:29 Peter Bates: @Claudine Pearson can you let me have permission as well peter@eastcambscan.org
00:57:38 Michelle Golder: Brilliant session. Thank you!
00:57:41 Claudine Pearson: Reacted to "David, Roy Hopkins h..." with ❤️
00:57:51 Claudine Pearson: Reacted to "@Claudine Pearson c..." with 👍🏼
00:59:40 Abby Charlesworth: localauthorities@carbonliteracy.com
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1 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:15.569 Abby Charlesworth: Excellent. I've made it in.
2 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:20.769 Abby Charlesworth: Hi, everybody.
3 00:00:20.770 --> 00:00:21.630 Stuart Withington: Alright!
4 00:00:22.780 --> 00:00:28.850 Abby Charlesworth: Good morning, everybody. I've been here sooner, but I ended up joining the wrong meeting. But we're all right now.
5 00:00:34.730 --> 00:00:44.680 Andrew Maliphant: I have this strange reputation in the community lobby of which I'm chairman, that I have this complete capacity to resolve and control and solve any technical mystery.
6 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:48.859 Andrew Maliphant: It's not a reputation I'd like to have.
7 00:00:48.940 --> 00:00:52.190 Andrew Maliphant: and I've certainly just proved I don't have it for these sessions. But there we go.
8 00:00:52.830 --> 00:00:58.250 Abby Charlesworth: There we go. We're waiting for Abby Charlesworth to join us from the Carbon Literacy project. Oh, you are the app. Sorry?
9 00:00:58.250 --> 00:01:03.299 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah, I did manage. It was it was not letting me in for some reason, but it suddenly did so great.
10 00:01:03.300 --> 00:01:03.640 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah.
11 00:01:03.875 --> 00:01:04.110 tristram cary: Okay.
12 00:01:04.110 --> 00:01:15.230 Andrew Maliphant: What what it seems to have decided is that people don't log in early. We all get logged in instantly at 12 o'clock. This is a bit of a change from the previous thing. When when Graham joins us.
13 00:01:15.300 --> 00:01:18.519 Andrew Maliphant: I'll ask him to just give us a bit more feedback on that.
14 00:01:19.458 --> 00:01:22.001 Andrew Maliphant: Right great, great, great stuff!
15 00:01:22.600 --> 00:01:27.699 Andrew Maliphant: I don't know what it's all like with you boys and girls, but it's getting slowly chillier where I live in the Forest of Dean.
16 00:01:27.810 --> 00:01:32.110 Andrew Maliphant: So where mustn't grumble? Nobody's listening. Yeah.
17 00:01:32.410 --> 00:01:43.112 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah, certainly chilly here as well, but we managed to get our Christmas tree up. I was like, it's the 1st of December on Sunday I'm gonna go for it. So, starting to get festive.
18 00:01:43.410 --> 00:01:45.709 Andrew Maliphant: Have to be done. That's absolutely right. Yeah.
19 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:46.290 Abby Charlesworth: Okay.
20 00:01:46.290 --> 00:01:55.189 Andrew Maliphant: You've noticed that the BBC. Are now being very careful about their pronouncements. I think for the 1st time this morning I saw on breakfast TV.
21 00:01:55.290 --> 00:02:09.580 Andrew Maliphant: I'll watch anything made. But they had the the BBC weather report. It was giving us 2 options for Friday, and he said, Well, if you look at the European model. It'll just just hit the southeast of England. If we look at the American model for predicting weather, it's going to go right into the Midlands.
22 00:02:09.853 --> 00:02:24.540 Andrew Maliphant: So basically, we're saying, Watch this space. I think it's the 1st start. I've seen them only give suggestions for the next 24 h when things were really changing. It's the 1st time, I think I've heard them say, actually, it could be this way or this way. And this is what the 2 things look like.
23 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:26.540 Andrew Maliphant: So there we go.
24 00:02:27.740 --> 00:02:34.830 Andrew Maliphant: Be a BBC weatherman, anyway, because they present the information that's given to them. They don't actually invent it themselves.
25 00:02:35.386 --> 00:02:45.510 Andrew Maliphant: Old Pearl Michael Fisher, for those of us remember who got it in the neck for saying the wrong thing about the 1987 hurricane. But of course he was only saying what he was told to say. It wasn't.
26 00:02:45.660 --> 00:02:47.610 Andrew Maliphant: Wasn't his final decision, anyway.
27 00:02:47.610 --> 00:02:48.470 Abby Charlesworth: Indeed.
28 00:02:48.660 --> 00:02:49.490 Andrew Maliphant: Never mind.
29 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:52.066 Andrew Maliphant: Well, we got a good turnout there today.
30 00:02:52.920 --> 00:02:56.839 Andrew Maliphant: What we usually say at the beginning of these sessions is that
31 00:02:57.314 --> 00:03:14.825 Andrew Maliphant: this session is being recorded. If people don't want their front rooms to be recorded for posterity, they can always close down their video screens. But there we are, as you can see, I've blurred mine. It isn't the fact that you've all got hangovers. No, I've actually blurred my background. There we go!
32 00:03:15.150 --> 00:03:37.870 Andrew Maliphant: And I think we've got about 4 min past 12, so we will invite and introduce our good friend Abby to give us a talk today. Abby is going to tell us more about herself than I can present just now, but she's working very closely with the Carbon Literacy project particularly. I believe you have the desk for local councils. Abby, please please tell us more about yourself, and the floor is yours.
33 00:03:37.870 --> 00:04:02.159 Abby Charlesworth: Awesome. Thank you so much, Andrew. Thanks so much, and also to Graham as well for organizing this. It's a pleasure to be with you all today I can see some familiar faces which is great. Actually, before I get started. I just wondered how many people are like familiar with carbon literacy, or if anyone here is totally new to carbon literacy, if you could just either raise your hand on the screen or you can use one of the reactions
34 00:04:02.350 --> 00:04:06.209 Abby Charlesworth: on your Zoom bar. Just so. I know if you're completely new to carbon literacy.
35 00:04:06.210 --> 00:04:10.279 Andrew Maliphant: Those people who are new to carbon literacy raise your right hand, say after me.
36 00:04:11.010 --> 00:04:11.840 Abby Charlesworth: Okay, great. I can.
37 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:12.360 Ray Toomer: Great.
38 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:13.380 Abby Charlesworth: That's nice.
39 00:04:13.380 --> 00:04:14.080 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah, that's
40 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:29.610 Abby Charlesworth: great. Awesome. Okay, it's great to have people who are completely new to carbon literacy. So I can help you guys to understand it a little bit more as well. Thank you. So yeah, I'm Abby. I'm the local authorities coordinator for the Carbon Literacy project.
41 00:04:30.130 --> 00:04:48.779 Abby Charlesworth: So what that means is, I end up working with all kinds of local authorities, from parish town community councils and all the way up to and including combined authorities as well. So a nice broad range of different organizations to work alongside and help with their carbon emissions, education.
42 00:04:48.810 --> 00:04:56.450 Abby Charlesworth: and their wider climate education, too. So I will just see if I can share my
43 00:04:56.730 --> 00:05:01.029 Abby Charlesworth: presentation with you guys one second.
44 00:05:03.760 --> 00:05:10.539 Abby Charlesworth: So you should be able to see this hopefully from the beginning. If I can get it back there. One second.
45 00:05:11.947 --> 00:05:15.940 Abby Charlesworth: Can you see my presentation? Okay, as it gets back to the beginning.
46 00:05:15.940 --> 00:05:26.940 Andrew Maliphant: Not yet. No, I always have trouble with this, because I have to get this screen the file on screen and then press the button for the slideshow doesn't seem to let me do it the other way again. This is my my technical reputation. Going down in flame.
47 00:05:26.940 --> 00:05:34.030 Abby Charlesworth: Might be, might be potentially that it's loading up. But I I can see it from my side. I don't know if you guys can see it from your side.
48 00:05:34.030 --> 00:05:36.020 Andrew Maliphant: We see nothing. Yes.
49 00:05:36.020 --> 00:05:37.390 Abby Charlesworth: You see my face, though.
50 00:05:37.390 --> 00:05:38.579 Andrew Maliphant: Oh, we can see your face.
51 00:05:38.580 --> 00:05:44.130 Abby Charlesworth: Maybe I'll just go ahead and use the presentation in the background and then chat you through some bits as well.
52 00:05:44.835 --> 00:05:49.450 Abby Charlesworth: I'll try one different way of doing. Can you see the presentation now.
53 00:05:49.610 --> 00:05:52.889 Andrew Maliphant: No, you you you are using the share screen share screen. But.
54 00:05:52.890 --> 00:05:54.730 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah, let me just see if I.
55 00:05:54.730 --> 00:05:55.969 Andrew Maliphant: Should be able to do that.
56 00:05:57.180 --> 00:05:57.990 Abby Charlesworth: This one.
57 00:05:57.990 --> 00:06:01.180 Andrew Maliphant: Graham. She's she's okay to share screen.
58 00:06:01.180 --> 00:06:06.419 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: If you move your mouse to the bottom of the screen at the center, you should get a green share button.
59 00:06:06.420 --> 00:06:08.809 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah, I do have that. So it says.
60 00:06:08.810 --> 00:06:16.439 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Then you have to select the screen that you want to show, or you can just select the top left one, and then there's a second share button on the bottom right.
61 00:06:16.850 --> 00:06:27.100 Abby Charlesworth: So I have the I'm it says that I'm sharing, but I think that also says, Please grant Browser access as well. Let me see.
62 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:44.199 Abby Charlesworth: Hmm! I think what I'll do is instead of wasting time with my settings, I will just chat you through what I have on my Powerpoint instead, and then you can just come back at me with any questions. If that's okay.
63 00:06:45.320 --> 00:06:50.119 Andrew Maliphant: We're on the good. The good ship. Great collaboration surfing through cyberspace.
64 00:06:50.120 --> 00:07:10.519 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah. So I guess I'll go ahead and just tell you a little bit about what I've been doing with carbon literacy and how we're working at the moment across not only the local authority sector, but also more widely, and also thinking about parish, town and community councils, a little bit more in depth, too.
65 00:07:10.930 --> 00:07:37.550 Abby Charlesworth: and I'll drop some links into the chat when I've finished speaking for things around our email address. If you want to get in touch with us and also our website and our sign up for our newsletter. We've got a local authority specific newsletter for carbon literacy, where you'll find loads of different updates, case studies, useful tools and articles, and so on. So I'll share all of those once I've finished speaking.
66 00:07:37.950 --> 00:07:51.999 Abby Charlesworth: but I think some of you might already know, around parish, Town and community councils the course itself, but it was developed with the then Government Department base, which is business energy and industrial strategy and greater Manchester combined authority.
67 00:07:52.040 --> 00:08:10.699 Abby Charlesworth: and we also had some help in developing the Parish Town Community Council's course with Speak carbon collective, who, some of you might know, and the wonderful save our Shropshire, who we were working alongside, who were delivering a lot of our open courses as well. So we're super grateful for all of those organizations who contributed towards
68 00:08:10.700 --> 00:08:22.489 Abby Charlesworth: making the Parish Town Community Councils course. It's about a year old now, and we've had some great success with it. So we're really happy to see lots of different parish town councils getting involved, too.
69 00:08:22.910 --> 00:08:40.489 Abby Charlesworth: So carbon literacy, what is that? It is low carbon culture change training. So essentially, it's thinking about everyday actions that we might do in our normal personal life or in our work life and the carbon emissions attached to those as well.
70 00:08:40.740 --> 00:08:50.369 Abby Charlesworth: The aim of the training is to make sure people understand their carbon emissions that attach to those different actions and can form an action plan to lower them as part of the training.
71 00:08:50.925 --> 00:08:57.869 Abby Charlesworth: So I'll go on to talk about the courses that we have as part of our local authorities suite.
72 00:08:58.730 --> 00:09:23.200 Abby Charlesworth: We had 5 courses in our suite until very recently, and I'll just outline a bit about that. We have General Staff course, which is great for mixed cohorts. We also have leadership and management, an elected members course, the parish town and communities course and as well. We had our community leaders course, too, which was super useful for lots and lots of different applications.
73 00:09:23.400 --> 00:09:41.609 Abby Charlesworth: We're super lucky that we've had a new communities. Coordinator join us just a few weeks ago, so she's taking care of the community leaders course going forward. And that's Anne. Marie and I will put her email in for those of you who are interested in working alongside your communities to leverage carbon literacy, too.
74 00:09:41.830 --> 00:09:57.580 Abby Charlesworth: So we have all 5 of these courses. Now, I'm looking after 4 of them, and we've just come through a really exciting updates period. So I've been spending the last 6 months planning, plotting, chatting to collaborators and updating all of the toolkit materials
75 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:14.220 Abby Charlesworth: which you'll be able to access going forward. So yeah, we have all of these 4 courses that I mentioned, and those are off the shelf courses so you can buy them. They come fully complete, ready to go, and you can roll them out almost instantly on on receiving the materials.
76 00:10:14.610 --> 00:10:34.849 Abby Charlesworth: But it's important to say as well that we also really are proud of the flexibility of carbon literacy. So you can actually create your own course. That's unique and bespoke to your context. So we've had a lot of different councils who've taken advantage of that. And I'm going to share a couple of case studies around that in a moment as well.
77 00:10:35.470 --> 00:10:37.770 Abby Charlesworth: But what I'll talk about 1st is
78 00:10:37.950 --> 00:10:46.430 Abby Charlesworth: the structure of the courses just really quickly, for those of you who are with us who might not know. So the idea of carbon literacy is that
79 00:10:46.510 --> 00:10:53.650 Abby Charlesworth: climate change, science policy and then taking action can't really be done in like an hour's worth of Cpd.
80 00:10:53.710 --> 00:11:00.539 Abby Charlesworth: There's a lot to understand, and there's a lot to plan together as a team in your organizations.
81 00:11:00.820 --> 00:11:29.220 Abby Charlesworth: So each of the training courses have to say, between 7 to 8 h, and we have the what we would call a transformational arc. And I'll explain what I mean about that. The 1st half of the course can be quite heavy, as you can imagine. You have to go into all of the climate, science, and policy, understand all of that, and also the values around it, things like climate, justice and how it affects different areas of the world. So this can feel quite heavy. And there's a lot to understand and
82 00:11:29.290 --> 00:11:39.820 Abby Charlesworth: just coming to terms with the situation we're in now. But the really great thing about carbon literacy training is that from the middle of the day onwards. We're thinking about positive action.
83 00:11:40.080 --> 00:12:09.249 Abby Charlesworth: We're planning in our teams like what actions we can take to lower carbon emissions across our organizations and putting them into effect together as well. So the great thing about carbon literacy is that it's peer to peer learning. There has to be a trainer who's got experience in your context to deliver the training. So that we know that understanding is really embedded in the learning that comes across. So yeah, it's a really exciting course, and we get so much great feedback about it.
84 00:12:09.250 --> 00:12:32.319 Abby Charlesworth: I wanted to share as well that we've had the really great milestone this year of reaching 100,000 certified learners in carbon literacy. That was back, I think, in April or May, and we've since sailed past that to 114,000. And I have to say that 10% of them actually come from the local authority sector. So we're doing great
85 00:12:32.666 --> 00:12:40.990 Abby Charlesworth: and I should say within that as well. Well, over 100 parish councils now have one or more members trained which is awesome.
86 00:12:40.990 --> 00:12:56.550 Abby Charlesworth: and we're coming up to about 100 town councils as well. So a little bit of healthy competition there, if you're from a town council and you want to try and beat parish councils, there's that. So yeah, we're really proud of how things have been going across the sectors as well.
87 00:12:56.750 --> 00:13:23.749 Abby Charlesworth: We've actually just sort of more widely across the sort of like broader set of sectors just created a course for the digital and tech sector, as you can imagine. That's a hot topic at the moment, with things like AI, and all of the stuff to do with emissions around that use. So we're really excited to be working across more and more sectors as we develop and grow. We've been growing a lot over the last year.
88 00:13:24.270 --> 00:13:28.089 Abby Charlesworth: So thinking about the role of local authorities
89 00:13:28.370 --> 00:13:39.329 Abby Charlesworth: as an organization, local authorities probably have direct control over 2% of Uk emissions. But the emissions under the influence of local authorities, of whatever level
90 00:13:39.330 --> 00:14:05.799 Abby Charlesworth: accounts for about 33%. So we have huge potential as a sector to make a really really massive change. And personally for me, I see parish town community councils as pivotal in this because of your like closer link to communities. And you know, leveraging that and rippling the learning out into communities is like one of the things that I've been working really hard on over the last 6 months, and really want to work more closely with more parish and town councils.
91 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:16.279 Abby Charlesworth: So I'm going to tell you a little bit about the Parish Town Councils course, and then provide you with some case studies of what's already come off the back of some of our carbon literacy training.
92 00:14:16.690 --> 00:14:38.070 Abby Charlesworth: So, as I was saying, our parish Town and Community Council scores, it's about a year old, and it was co-written and piloted by parish and town councils. So it's got that really embedded applied learning. You can deliver it internally in your organizations, or we can pair you with an external trainer who has experience in the local authority sector.
93 00:14:38.370 --> 00:15:04.980 Abby Charlesworth: something that we're really proud of around this course as well is that we keep it free for parish and town councils to access. We understand that funding can be really tight and like that, some organizations are incredibly small and don't have a big staff unit. So we want to keep this access free for parish and town community councils. The only cost that you would have as an organization is the 10 pound per learner, certification, application fee.
94 00:15:05.410 --> 00:15:30.249 Abby Charlesworth: And yeah, as I said, this course really examines how to ripple out the work widely into communities, and it includes loads of showcase, examples of what parish and town councils have been up to, including this one, which is Farnham and Hovingham Parish Council, and how they've embedded repair cafes. I'm not sure if many of you have your own repair cafes and circular bits and bobs going on for the circular economy aspect of carbon emissions.
95 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:57.140 Abby Charlesworth: But this has been like such a great initiative. It's really taken off in Farnham and Hovingham. So yeah, this case study of promoting circular economy is in our toolkits. And there's a lot of other ones in there, too, around things, including community energy use of solar bulk purchasing, and all of that sort of stuff, too. So there's loads of great inspiration in the course which we're really proud of, and it helps people just instead of having that blank canvas
96 00:15:57.140 --> 00:16:00.650 Abby Charlesworth: to have some examples of what's already gone, really? Well.
97 00:16:01.190 --> 00:16:04.040 Abby Charlesworth: so yeah, in terms of like
98 00:16:04.070 --> 00:16:17.290 Abby Charlesworth: promoting our work with parish town and community councils. I'm just trying to make sure that we can spread the word as much as possible that you know the course is free for parish town councils to access.
99 00:16:17.290 --> 00:16:41.950 Abby Charlesworth: and we've also been like really championing a collaborative partnership working style, too. So we've had some great relationship building with Nelk National Association of Local Councils. This year I sat on their Star Council climate award panel which was really exciting. It was so nice and so inspiring to see what so many councils are up to in their own areas. So keeping working with
100 00:16:41.950 --> 00:16:52.450 Abby Charlesworth: organizations like Sos save our Shrops, who I just want to take some time to really thank them for delivering so much of our open course, capacity, they're having to cease functioning.
101 00:16:52.450 --> 00:17:16.739 Abby Charlesworth: So what's happening off the back of the amazing work of Save our Shropshire is that in order for parish town councils to access an open course. To begin like getting people trained. We'll be moving to a waiting list model, so you'll need to get in touch with me to tell me that you'd like to get someone in your Parish Town Council trained, and then I will be putting you in touch with a great organization that we're working alongside called Speak carbon collective.
102 00:17:16.849 --> 00:17:30.610 Abby Charlesworth: So yeah, I'll put my email address into the chat at the end when I finish chatting and you can get in touch with me, and I can make sure that you get lined up for one of those open courses that will be coming from next year. So
103 00:17:30.700 --> 00:17:36.380 Abby Charlesworth: now I've chatted to you a bit about where carbon literacy is at as an organization the course itself.
104 00:17:36.410 --> 00:17:59.310 Abby Charlesworth: I've got 3 case studies that I just wanted to chat you through. So you can see some of the different approaches that councils have had using carbon literacy and some of the great stuff that's come out of the training as a result. So the council I wanted to start off with is actually Lyme Regis Town Council.
105 00:17:59.750 --> 00:18:02.878 Abby Charlesworth: and they've been doing some amazing work there.
106 00:18:03.450 --> 00:18:30.099 Abby Charlesworth: so yeah, I wanted to just point out Lyme Regis Town Council, who worked alongside Dorset Climate Action network. And the then Belinda Borden councillor, who was like really like a key proponent in pushing forward the training within Lyme Regis Town Council. So a big thanks to the both of them and to Belinda. But Lyme Regis did super well, and they became the 1st town council to achieve silver carbon literate organization status.
107 00:18:30.260 --> 00:18:54.990 Abby Charlesworth: So this is like an additional pathway that we offer to any organization doing carbon literacy training. They can meet a few different criteria and work their way up from being a bronze organization all the way up to platinum. So Limere just became the 1st town council to achieve silver, which is a really great feat. It's not easy to get there. There's quite a high criteria for staff numbers trained.
108 00:18:54.990 --> 00:19:07.209 Abby Charlesworth: and they managed to get more than 60% of their counselors trained at the time this was printed, so that was back in March, and a significant proportion of their internal staff, too. So it was a huge effort, and they did really really well.
109 00:19:07.590 --> 00:19:28.199 Abby Charlesworth: Some of the actions that came out of the training with Lyme Regis included installing solar panels on their office buildings, adding Ev or electric vehicle chargers into public car parks, and they also managed to shift 30% of the Council's vehicles over to electric as well.
110 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:55.589 Abby Charlesworth: So some really great actions. And I've got an example here. What I'll do is I'll send the Powerpoint slides at the end of this so that they can get distributed, and you can have a look through everything but it's Caroline Eldridge who I've got an example from from Lime Regis, and she's a town councillor, and one of the things that she had pledged was to work alongside other agencies like Dorset Council and the Highways Agency to plan on improving public transport and limit car use around Lyme.
111 00:19:55.590 --> 00:20:11.030 Abby Charlesworth: And recently I've seen a really great pledge come through from our certifications team about work that's starting or hoping to be started in the area for a carbon neutral highway. So it seems like the momentum is still continuing in the region which is Fab to see.
112 00:20:11.100 --> 00:20:25.109 Abby Charlesworth: So yeah, that was our example of one of our town councils, but I also wanted to give you a couple of other case studies from other councils which have slightly different approaches to using carbon literacy and the aims that they have around it.
113 00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:31.630 Abby Charlesworth: So the next one that I wanted to talk to you guys about was a Welsh Council.
114 00:20:31.820 --> 00:20:55.280 Abby Charlesworth: This is actually carefully council in Wales, and they have decided to make a course of carbon numeracy which I love. I think that's really exciting. So what they decided to do was in order to get the funding to create the course. They noticed that there was a part of Uk Central Government funding called multiply.
115 00:20:55.640 --> 00:21:01.759 Abby Charlesworth: and the idea around this funding is to increase the general public's numeracy skills.
116 00:21:01.950 --> 00:21:15.050 Abby Charlesworth: So they knew they wanted to teach the general public about carbon emissions, and they knew that they wanted to up people's skills in numeracy, too. So they decided to marry the 2 ideas together and create a course called carbon numeracy.
117 00:21:15.378 --> 00:21:32.130 Abby Charlesworth: This is a really exciting idea. So it's a public facing course. And it's going to be run in adult education centers. Over a series of weeks, so maybe more like 5 to 8 weeks, instead of what internally councils might do, which might be half a day, one week and half a day the next week.
118 00:21:32.520 --> 00:21:54.630 Abby Charlesworth: So this one is going to be public facing. It's using some Welsh funding. So they've had to meet the criteria for some Welsh funding as well as our criteria, to get the course accredited. And the really exciting thing about what carefully are doing is, whereas some generally the courses work towards you, making your actions at the end
119 00:21:54.630 --> 00:22:18.210 Abby Charlesworth: carefully want to combine the actions into the course itself. So at the beginning you'll think, or the learners will think about actions around numeracy and maths and carbon emissions, and playing with different things in their day to day life, so it could be turning down the thermostat on their boiler by one degree, and seeing what comes out of that with their maths as well.
120 00:22:18.260 --> 00:22:37.310 Abby Charlesworth: so, by combining the actions into the course, we might be able to see in real time the carbon emissions changes that come out of the learning. So that was care fillies. And they've already as part of our carbon Literacy Action Day program. That was back in November. Some of you might know, and I'll drop a link to our world tour. Webinar
121 00:22:37.710 --> 00:23:04.519 Abby Charlesworth: carbon Literacy Action Day is a campaign. We run in carbon literacy which tries to get the most number of learners certified in carbon literacy across the world in one day so carefully managed to get their pilot for carbon numeracy done on this day, and include it into all of our stats around that. So they enjoyed the pilot and got some really great feedback about it to help them tweak
122 00:23:04.520 --> 00:23:17.210 Abby Charlesworth: and improve their course. So really big props to carefully for this exciting sort of venture into public facing carbon literacy with a slight twist towards maths. So that's our Welsh example.
123 00:23:17.320 --> 00:23:26.269 Abby Charlesworth: And then, finally, I wanted to highlight one last example. From Warrington Borough Council.
124 00:23:26.570 --> 00:23:32.769 Abby Charlesworth: That's closer to Manchester, and Warrington really wanted to examine how to
125 00:23:32.770 --> 00:23:59.489 Abby Charlesworth: push the momentum from the carbon Literacy training and not lose it. And the way they decided to do this was to apply for some innovate Uk funding which they were successful at and won to create this program of working groups. So everyone who took the carbon literacy training in Warrington Borough Council could choose to be part of a working group on carbon emissions subsequent to the training.
126 00:23:59.490 --> 00:24:21.740 Abby Charlesworth: So they have 3 different working groups, transport and mobility buildings and infrastructure and procurement and commissioning those qualified through the carbon literacy training didn't have to have a job specific to any of those working groups, but just an interest or a passion around it. And then they got put into these working groups to continue the momentum.
127 00:24:21.740 --> 00:24:32.379 Abby Charlesworth: going forward to make sure there's cross departmental discussion, and some really live interesting debate around how to lower their emissions in these areas as a council
128 00:24:32.770 --> 00:24:52.369 Abby Charlesworth: so really excited to see how that turns out for Warrington, they're going to have all 3 of the working groups together for a context setting session and then split off into 3 different pathways to think about their net 0 commitments, strategic planning, innovation and action planning and then come back together to share learning.
129 00:24:52.370 --> 00:25:04.600 Abby Charlesworth: So yeah, 3 examples from Warrington carefully in Lyme Regis, and I think I've probably talked long enough, talked your ears off. But you can get in touch with me. I'll drop the email in, as I was saying.
130 00:25:04.710 --> 00:25:17.009 Abby Charlesworth: and the link to sign up for our newsletter as well. And yeah, I'm just happy to take any questions and thank you so much. I hope it wasn't too difficult to follow without the slides. But yeah, I'll pass back to you, Andrew. Thank you so much.
131 00:25:21.420 --> 00:25:22.840 Abby Charlesworth: or Graham, maybe.
132 00:25:22.840 --> 00:25:29.090 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Yeah long pause. Whilst we're working out. Who's going to answer you? I'll leave it to Andrew. He's got the wall so far.
133 00:25:29.090 --> 00:25:36.599 Andrew Maliphant: Thanks very, very much. I mean, it was amazing. And your enthusiasm for what you're doing just shines through every sentence. It's great.
134 00:25:36.680 --> 00:26:00.140 Andrew Maliphant: and that alone is just a really inspiring thing to to hear about. Thank you. So kind. Yes, great news all round. And I'm sure that there will be other topics. People want to say things you do. Please send us that presentation, because what we'll do is we'll put it up together on the on the knowledge base, together with this recording, so that people can can see the whole deal.
135 00:26:00.140 --> 00:26:05.749 Abby Charlesworth: I'll send that across to you now, and I'll just start popping those links into the chat as well.
136 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:25.189 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah, no, the carbon numeracy is great. Many years ago, when I was working in another sphere, they there was this issue that people were very keen that numeracy was as much an issue as literacy in in schools, because people were feeling that.
137 00:26:25.300 --> 00:26:45.140 Andrew Maliphant: you know, people could talk about just in general, but numeracy was felt for the people I was talking to as an almost more important and certainly a larger issue to attend to. So it's fascinating to hear that that's coming into the carbon world as well. And of course, when we're looking at.
138 00:26:45.470 --> 00:26:56.790 Andrew Maliphant: we've got a big lottery bid in at the moment to do some work with the great collaboration in East Anglia, and one of the issues is, of course, measuring and monitoring the outcome of what we will be doing over there.
139 00:26:56.910 --> 00:27:10.969 Andrew Maliphant: And so numbers come into that. Quite important in terms of, you know, kilowatt hours of renewable energy generators, and of course, tons of carbon emissions reduced. So there we go, Graham, sir, you have your hand up.
140 00:27:11.560 --> 00:27:26.779 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: It's actually a question for Amanda rather than Abby. Sorry, Abby, but I'm curious about Amanda's comment that we should be looking at the immersive experience room in the library in so in a suburb of Chelten, do you have a link for that? By any chance.
141 00:27:26.780 --> 00:27:34.530 Amanda Davis: Absolutely. Yes, yes, very happy to put you in touch. I'm not sure if I can do it in time, whilst our.
142 00:27:34.530 --> 00:27:36.659 Andrew Maliphant: Is it? Is it, Charlton? Kings, Amanda.
143 00:27:36.660 --> 00:27:49.220 Amanda Davis: No, it's I want to say, Oakley, but I need to double check that. I've been there. I was there for its launch, and basically, it's a room in the library
144 00:27:49.440 --> 00:28:04.239 Amanda Davis: that it's a relatively small room, but it's much bigger than a broom cupboard, you know, and as a maths teacher I got involved with the national numeracy champions about 18 months ago through multiply.
145 00:28:04.270 --> 00:28:07.449 Amanda Davis: maybe 2 years ago now, and
146 00:28:07.510 --> 00:28:22.400 Amanda Davis: this particular room is is kitted out, so that as you walk through the room, the the sides of the room, the the projections all move around you so that you feel like you're walking inside it
147 00:28:22.460 --> 00:28:34.140 Amanda Davis: so I could really see how I mean it was set up for supermarkets, for example, for best buys and best value, and but given that the room has been invested in and is set up.
148 00:28:34.370 --> 00:28:36.999 Amanda Davis: then different programs can be commissioned
149 00:28:37.170 --> 00:29:01.279 Amanda Davis: a relatively affordable marginal cost, and then you can run that session. So I never thought of doing it with climate numerously before. But what a fabulous idea! So I've got national contacts as well as the local contacts in in Gloucestershire, and particularly the Cheltenham Library resource as well. So it's not Cheltenham Library. It's this
150 00:29:01.280 --> 00:29:11.010 Amanda Davis: small community library, and you know where the where the Sainsbury's is not far from the hospital. Kind of you turn up off the road.
151 00:29:11.320 --> 00:29:16.930 Abby Charlesworth: I don't know Cheltenham well enough. I'm sure it's called Oakley, but let me double check the details, and I'll pop it in chat.
152 00:29:17.120 --> 00:29:18.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Thanks, Amanda.
153 00:29:18.730 --> 00:29:28.930 Andrew Maliphant: And we all we all cause, as we know, we all learn in different ways. And this is another way of getting people engaged that might not, might struggle in other ways. All very good news, Claudine. Your hand is up.
154 00:29:28.930 --> 00:29:30.720 Amanda Davis: And it's fun, Andrew.
155 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:31.610 Andrew Maliphant: Course it is.
156 00:29:31.610 --> 00:29:39.330 Amanda Davis: All the family come along, and they don't feel like they're being lectured. Or, you know, it's just fun. That's what's so good about it.
157 00:29:39.330 --> 00:29:41.730 Andrew Maliphant: Yes, your life is a succession of joy. Amanda. Yes.
158 00:29:47.250 --> 00:30:01.570 Claudine Pearson: My question is, just thinking about the pledges and thinking forward to speaking to town and parish councils and the actions, collective actions that they can take, can they? Also.
159 00:30:02.100 --> 00:30:14.879 Claudine Pearson: if they don't have buildings if they don't have car parks? But they may have playing fields. Are there actions that they can take that are not necessarily reducing carbon emissions, but
160 00:30:15.220 --> 00:30:22.190 Claudine Pearson: about increasing nature, ie. Swallowing up carbon dioxide. Does that count? Because.
161 00:30:22.190 --> 00:30:45.230 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah, that's a really interesting one. And in my previous job I worked alongside Waka, west of England, combined authority on the local nature recovery strategy, and really see, like how biodiversity is part of that whole carbon emissions cycle in carbon literacy. Our mission is to mitigate carbon emissions.
162 00:30:45.627 --> 00:30:54.759 Abby Charlesworth: So we take those sorts of like nature actions on a case by case basis, but they need to be significantly more than
163 00:30:54.760 --> 00:31:22.569 Abby Charlesworth: planting some trees as part of a small scale project. What we do encourage is things around like working alongside planning departments using that section 106, leverage and community infrastructure levies. I know there was a technical consultation through the last government, and we're still kind of waiting to see what's going to happen there. But I think leveraging that sort of stuff around. Planning can be really powerful as well, and that can include those sorts of like Bng biodiversity net gain
164 00:31:22.570 --> 00:31:29.819 Abby Charlesworth: stuff and thinking about infrastructure for new planning developments and stuff like that, too. I hope that helps a little bit.
165 00:31:31.350 --> 00:31:36.869 Claudine Pearson: Is there a bit of a menu anywhere just encouraging our town and parish councils rather than
166 00:31:36.990 --> 00:31:39.760 Claudine Pearson: racking their brains and putting them on the spot?
167 00:31:39.760 --> 00:32:04.070 Abby Charlesworth: We do have some pledge inspiration documents which I can share. But I'm actually also looking to create one more bespoke to parish town councils, because I know that their remit is slightly different. So I'm always looking for case studies. So if you or anyone, you know, has a great Parish town council that you would like to be a case study as part of carbon literacy. We're really interested to hear from them as well, and use like their great like learning and things to.
168 00:32:04.070 --> 00:32:05.540 Claudine Pearson: Do, and what I'm.
169 00:32:05.540 --> 00:32:05.880 Abby Charlesworth: Thank you.
170 00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:10.849 Claudine Pearson: Is. Yeah, I do. And I have lots of them. What they don't know is probably the measure of it.
171 00:32:11.050 --> 00:32:11.660 Abby Charlesworth: You know they'll have said.
172 00:32:11.660 --> 00:32:17.080 Claudine Pearson: We've done a thing and you go. Great! You've done a thing I don't know, and they don't know just how many
173 00:32:17.260 --> 00:32:19.600 Claudine Pearson: in carbons they've reduced.
174 00:32:19.600 --> 00:32:47.450 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah, that's the thing, isn't it? And I think because of carbon literacy is like wide, like breadth of scope. And for us as well, like collecting that impact data back in is such a huge task. So yeah, working off the back of case studies and seeing things put into action is our 1st port of call before we get this huge academic research piece done. So yeah. But I'd be really interested to chat with you more about that, Claudine, so we can get a meeting booked in if it suits you, or email, or whatever you fancy.
175 00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:59.389 Andrew Maliphant: Well, that's great, because we're looking to include a process for that measuring within our pilot in East Anglia which is in Karen, Cambridgeshire, Essex, Norfolk, and Suffolk. So yes, let's keep in touch on this one.
176 00:32:59.570 --> 00:32:59.900 Abby Charlesworth: Okay.
177 00:33:00.555 --> 00:33:01.210 Andrew Maliphant: Michelle.
178 00:33:03.420 --> 00:33:04.230 Michelle Golder: Hi, there!
179 00:33:04.560 --> 00:33:12.130 Michelle Golder: I'm not a parish councillor. I I have a local eco group, and we're working closely with our Parish Council.
180 00:33:12.360 --> 00:33:19.960 Michelle Golder: and they've done a lot. But I've been trying to get them to take our local 0 carbon communities training.
181 00:33:20.080 --> 00:33:24.460 Michelle Golder: And really, people have just been too busy. They've been overwhelmed.
182 00:33:24.790 --> 00:33:27.170 Michelle Golder: And so my question is
183 00:33:27.600 --> 00:33:42.059 Michelle Golder: transformative. Is the training. And and do you find that the councils that you're working with are sort of already on a path? Or do you ever get councils that aren't on a path yet that actually take the training and and
184 00:33:42.110 --> 00:33:53.280 Michelle Golder: are transformed? You know, I'd like to see this become more of a priority for the Council rather than kind of me, pushing an agenda which they're kind of agreeing to, but not maybe understanding.
185 00:33:53.620 --> 00:33:55.040 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah, totally understand.
186 00:33:55.540 --> 00:34:19.439 Abby Charlesworth: Philly is a great example of that. They took the training and then came up with all these creative ideas around carbon numeracy. And I guess that's quite transformative. But I appreciate what you're saying. And sometimes within organisations, whatever sector they might be in, there happens to be someone who's really passionate about climate change and sustainability, who drives everything forward, and if they happen to leave, then things can sometimes fall by the wayside.
187 00:34:19.530 --> 00:34:29.450 Abby Charlesworth: So that is something that we try to build into the course, and I think the beginning of the course has some quite emotive material in it. There's some quite
188 00:34:29.449 --> 00:34:54.439 Abby Charlesworth: sort of intense, like testimonial videos from people who've experienced climate change, and I think incorporating that like emotive aspect, has been like really strong, powerful incentive for people to then go ahead and really make that change. So overall, I'd say, like, we've had some really great transformations definitely. But I do appreciate what you're saying sometimes it's that one person who's who's making the change.
189 00:34:54.510 --> 00:35:18.789 Abby Charlesworth: But in terms of just answering another point that you made around. People being super busy, just wanted to say that. Yes, I completely understand that, and we feel that within councils as well, particularly when we try to get our C-suite engaged. So sometimes it's been really effective to chop the training down instead of trying to get people to book an entire day, or even half a day
190 00:35:18.870 --> 00:35:38.940 Abby Charlesworth: to run the training in, say, 2 h sessions. And they could be in the evening online. Just so it's a bit more flexible for people that might be able to join from public transport their signals good enough, and all of that sort of stuff, just to try and make sure that there's as much flexibility as possible for people to kind of make sure they can join, so I don't know if that helps.
191 00:35:39.060 --> 00:35:43.860 Michelle Golder: Yeah. Oh, I'm drafting the new iteration of their climate emergency plan.
192 00:35:43.860 --> 00:35:44.660 Abby Charlesworth: Oh, Fab!
193 00:35:44.921 --> 00:35:51.458 Michelle Golder: For for them to then look at. And and they did a lot of the previous plan so I need to make it harder.
194 00:35:51.720 --> 00:35:58.880 Abby Charlesworth: Next steps. Yeah, well, that's nice. That's really great. Well done. So you've obviously managed to lead them up the sort of.
195 00:35:58.880 --> 00:35:59.819 Michelle Golder: Don't take Hello!
196 00:36:01.083 --> 00:36:02.870 Abby Charlesworth: Thank you.
197 00:36:02.870 --> 00:36:10.279 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah, I should also, which which is relevant to this, we're looking at a process of training people to help to train others in terms, so that we can have.
198 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:33.170 Andrew Maliphant: You know, we could only do a certain amount with a certain number of people and a certain amount of funding. But if we can train people that can then go out and train more people and help, you know, start more revolutions around their area. We'll be looking to be doing that as well. And, of course, apart from anything else, parish councils are at different positions as well. They're not all the same in terms of where they are in space. With this, as Michelle's very clearly described
199 00:36:33.430 --> 00:36:33.950 Andrew Maliphant: and.
200 00:36:33.950 --> 00:36:57.529 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah. And I think that that's another way of like making impact as well. So if different, like sized councils and parishes don't have buildings or don't have access to like create making those choices around installing Evs. A really great action is that I'm going to train someone within our organization. And then they're going to train 10 people. And then those 10 people are going to train our community. So that is an also like really viable action as well.
201 00:36:57.530 --> 00:36:58.799 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
202 00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:06.080 Andrew Maliphant: Some parish chairman still think it's all a plot, by the way. So there we go. David Newman, sir.
203 00:37:07.640 --> 00:37:20.169 David Newman: Right? Before anyone does a course. What is it that gets councillors or councils
204 00:37:21.420 --> 00:37:25.740 David Newman: to actually even think of getting carbon literacy training.
205 00:37:27.070 --> 00:37:38.750 Abby Charlesworth: Great good question. I think that I love working in the sector because we've got a really important commitment to work to which is our net 0 sort of
206 00:37:39.160 --> 00:37:49.710 Abby Charlesworth: legislation regulation that's come down from central government. So we as a sector have, we're obliged to work towards net 0, which is obviously limiting those emissions.
207 00:37:49.710 --> 00:38:14.599 Abby Charlesworth: and I think that local authorities themselves are just really proactive in declaring things around climate emergency, and obviously deal with lots of the immediate effects of climate change, whether that's flooding, resource, vulnerability, all kinds of things like that. So I think that we get a range of different things. Sometimes they're just interested themselves, and they've heard about carbon literacy training through word of.
208 00:38:14.600 --> 00:38:29.249 Abby Charlesworth: And sometimes they've heard about it through coming along to a webinar with us. So there's loads of different access points for local authorities, and we see lots of different ways that they found out about us and want to get involved.
209 00:38:30.550 --> 00:38:36.909 David Newman: Yes, except that the government targets don't actually apply to parish councils.
210 00:38:37.270 --> 00:39:00.269 Abby Charlesworth: I guess it's like that sort of relationship of the principal authority and the Parish Town Council. And we're trying to encourage like closer and closer working relationships there as well, so that obviously, like local authorities who might have more resource, can support and help their parish councils to work towards the same objectives that they're working towards, too.
211 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:17.020 Abby Charlesworth: But I think the community aspect is a really important part of what Parish town councils can do as well like by involving the community and helping them to be part of action locally where they are. So they can see the direct benefit of training is really important, too.
212 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:39.339 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: I could just add in there, David. Last week we got a presentation about the local sports people, and how they're all suffering from having cancelled matches and pitches being unplayable, and how on earth they're going to get worse and that sort of thing. And if you can get the sports, coaches and people to start complaining to the Council. Maybe that will help.
213 00:39:40.510 --> 00:39:46.900 David Newman: Yes. Well, that's exactly the sort of problem to people agree
214 00:39:46.930 --> 00:40:05.609 David Newman: that we need adaptation, and they're suffering. But they don't think they are responsible for the problem in one of the 20% most deprived areas. It's the greedy, rich bastards elsewhere who's causing it on us. And we need help in adaptation, not reducing our Co. 2 emissions.
215 00:40:06.770 --> 00:40:21.359 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah, I think it can be one of those really interesting points to make around that sort of like grassroots action and top down action, too. So yes, we should demand that people in positions of power to make huge decisions that will have a really massive impact act.
216 00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:37.970 Abby Charlesworth: But we can also do things on a community level as well like, there's a really great example. I'm in Bristol. There's a really great example of a landowner reinstating a wetland area. So sort of like re-encouraging that area to reduce flooding impacts.
217 00:40:37.970 --> 00:41:03.139 Abby Charlesworth: So yeah, there's kind of call for both, isn't there? And I can totally understand. And that's something that we've included in the new updates for the courses around climate justice and who bears the brunt of climate change as it happens. And yeah, we're really proud of one of the new tools that we've got in the training, which is actually a really granular level map, detailing vulnerabilities to both heat
218 00:41:03.240 --> 00:41:13.980 Abby Charlesworth: and flooding as well. So we're trying to keep in all of this like granular level details. So people can really zoom in to their locality and see how they can make a change in a particular way.
219 00:41:15.300 --> 00:41:24.109 Andrew Maliphant: I can see we're gonna have to ask you back again in 2025, because things are moving apace, and we need to keep in close touch with you, because this is all brilliant, brilliant stuff.
220 00:41:24.110 --> 00:41:24.750 Abby Charlesworth: Indeed.
221 00:41:24.750 --> 00:41:36.799 Andrew Maliphant: So we're also, I mean David Morgan. Jones and I are talking separately about in strengthening the links between parishes and high level authorities, which we all agree is a necessary step. Thank you. David Gary Ford.
222 00:41:37.600 --> 00:41:39.620 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Actually that really just
223 00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:56.060 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: segues right into my question beautifully. I couldn't have planned any better, because my question was actually about climate change as a fast moving subject. So I was just wondering how often are you updating your resources to reflect the current situation.
224 00:41:56.060 --> 00:42:02.780 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah. So I can testify to the fact that updating our materials is a mammoth task.
225 00:42:02.780 --> 00:42:27.770 Abby Charlesworth: So for every course we have, there are several pieces within that which need to get updated alongside it too. So not only is it the Powerpoint slides which are used as the lesson or the training itself. It's also all of the supporting materials, like the trainer guide, the running order and everything as well. So ideally, I would love to update the training materials every month. But we have to be realistic
226 00:42:27.770 --> 00:42:34.240 Abby Charlesworth: and think what we can actually action across 6 courses and pathways that we have.
227 00:42:34.240 --> 00:42:58.210 Abby Charlesworth: So what I try to do in local authorities is to supplement our training with as many webinars, articles, resources, and things as possible. So if you scroll back through the chat. You'll see that there is my link to sign up for the Newsletter local authorities. Newsletter and I try to do a roundup of various different bits of policy and keep on top of things for you guys and share it all that way as well.
228 00:42:58.210 --> 00:43:06.719 Abby Charlesworth: So where the courses need a bit more time and planning to be updated on a super regular level. I do try and supplement all of those materials with that additional
229 00:43:07.205 --> 00:43:11.570 Abby Charlesworth: supporting resource as well. So yeah, that's my answer.
230 00:43:12.680 --> 00:43:14.977 Andrew Maliphant: Okay, year round. Employment. Very good.
231 00:43:16.700 --> 00:43:20.140 Andrew Maliphant: That's great. Thanks. So much for that, Abby. David Morgan Jones.
232 00:43:21.900 --> 00:43:31.519 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): 2 questions. All the small level initiatives that you undertake like repair cafes.
233 00:43:31.540 --> 00:43:35.040 Abby Charlesworth: Is there associate? Is there an associated.
234 00:43:36.161 --> 00:43:40.849 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): Carbon reduction score against each activity.
235 00:43:42.030 --> 00:43:45.880 Abby Charlesworth: What that we've created is like, yeah, work internally.
236 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:46.720 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): Yeah.
237 00:43:46.720 --> 00:44:09.630 Abby Charlesworth: We haven't created a framework internally, and that is to recognize that the emissions attached to all different actions have such wild variations. So the thing that we work on is to look at the case studies of actions that have been taken, and keep in touch with those people around, like what has been sort of taken forward as well.
238 00:44:09.630 --> 00:44:25.259 Abby Charlesworth: But we do have things like where we signpost people to like things around Bng. Biodiversity net gain, where obviously an ecologist is brought on board, and they might, like monitor the piece of land, give it a score, and then come back in a year or so, and score it again.
239 00:44:25.260 --> 00:44:32.839 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): I suppose, Abby, what where I'm coming from is that you know? Rather picking up David Newman's point?
240 00:44:34.490 --> 00:44:40.130 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): The enthusiasm in the general population that I'm experiencing is pretty low.
241 00:44:40.670 --> 00:44:43.660 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): and if we're going to try
242 00:44:44.230 --> 00:44:48.539 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): and make a difference, a real difference, particularly at the parish level.
243 00:44:49.447 --> 00:44:53.180 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): we've got to pick those things that are going to be big wins.
244 00:44:53.810 --> 00:44:56.349 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): In other words, really focus on the big stuff.
245 00:44:56.420 --> 00:45:02.360 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): And if the little stuff happens to be picked up. That's great. But actually, let's focus our time and energy
246 00:45:02.450 --> 00:45:07.099 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): and enthusiasm on those areas that are going to really make a difference.
247 00:45:07.560 --> 00:45:08.280 Abby Charlesworth: Hmm, okay.
248 00:45:10.370 --> 00:45:15.521 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): That's the 1st thing, the second thing, it's slightly maybe
249 00:45:16.260 --> 00:45:27.810 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): off kilter to what you're doing. Well, again. It it's about, how do you educate engage fairly passive.
250 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:33.809 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): slash, indifferent sort of parish populations
251 00:45:34.380 --> 00:45:38.350 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): to actually engage with this process. Now we
252 00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:50.820 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): at a tier, 3 local authority level have been sent, as usual, a completely useless piece of policy by the previous government, and probably even more useless by the next government.
253 00:45:51.557 --> 00:45:57.709 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): which it tells us what we're supposed to do, but doesn't actually give us the funding or the wherewithal to actually do it.
254 00:45:58.469 --> 00:46:02.799 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): And therefore we are going to have to scrabble around trying to find funding
255 00:46:05.073 --> 00:46:12.840 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): to be able to go through certain iterations. But it's it's about, how do we take that carbon literature, education.
256 00:46:13.240 --> 00:46:30.550 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): and make it engaging to a wider population and almost making up Amanda's point where they feel as though they're not being lectured to. And they're they're absorbing it. And by and hopefully begin to get slightly more engaged with the process.
257 00:46:30.550 --> 00:46:55.280 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah, great question. And yeah, there's so many different applications for carbon literacy, and we don't have to stick with a sort of classroom style of delivery if we don't want to. And that's why I think, like some of the creativity of the councils we've worked alongside has really come to shine through. So we've had obviously the carbon numeracy initiative which I've loved like working alongside carefully on that.
258 00:46:55.380 --> 00:47:20.359 Abby Charlesworth: But something else that I've picked up on as part of like the listening and sort of research that I do alongside updating everything is around an organization who made a program called Britain Talks climate. I don't know if you've ever heard of that before, but it sort of like breaks down the population into different groups of what might motivate them to act on climate change. And there's about 12 or 13 subcategories.
259 00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:26.249 Abby Charlesworth: things like progressive activists to like traditional backbone, conservative and all the things in between.
260 00:47:26.250 --> 00:47:36.119 Abby Charlesworth: And they found that the one topic that cuts across all of those different subsections of motivation to act is nature.
261 00:47:36.120 --> 00:47:53.800 Abby Charlesworth: Everyone wants to protect nature. You can't find someone. If you said, would you rather destroy this wood or keep it? You can't find anyone who'd say I'd like to destroy it, please. So we found that there's been some really creative ideas around incorporating nature into the
262 00:47:53.830 --> 00:48:17.749 Abby Charlesworth: accredited unique bespoke courses. So this has to be done in a careful way and can be done alongside our accreditations team. But, for example, taking people out and teaching them how to create their own community gardening plot and then making the learning fold into how does that reduce your transport emissions for food, and then sort of like, turn things around in this way is totally possible as well.
263 00:48:17.750 --> 00:48:32.170 Abby Charlesworth: So I think there's scope for it to not have to be a sort of Powerpoint classroom type delivery. If you've got the resource, and I appreciate that sometimes the funding is the thing that holds us back from creating these new courses as well.
264 00:48:32.590 --> 00:48:38.889 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): I think. I suppose what I'm looking at is away from courses. I mean my my parish covers
265 00:48:39.010 --> 00:48:41.840 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): properties gained from about 6 million
266 00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:45.320 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): to about 500,000. So
267 00:48:45.460 --> 00:48:55.869 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): with the majority in the 1 million, mark, and most of them don't have gardens and not interested. Well, they have big gardens, huge gardens, but they're not interested in self-sustaining because they've got wealth enough to
268 00:48:58.016 --> 00:49:00.930 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): to to. It doesn't matter to them.
269 00:49:01.050 --> 00:49:08.770 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): And so it's about, how do we actually provide hooks for them to engage in critical things?
270 00:49:09.212 --> 00:49:20.839 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): For example, just insulation. There's a lot of properties. We have no idea what their Epc schools are, for example, and the insulation which would make a significant difference. Work on
271 00:49:20.930 --> 00:49:27.070 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): generating local generation of power with all the positives that come with that.
272 00:49:27.130 --> 00:49:31.420 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): So I think it's about trying to get the messaging and do it in a way
273 00:49:31.670 --> 00:49:36.320 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): that meets this unique specifics of a particular parish.
274 00:49:36.650 --> 00:50:04.490 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah, and absolutely agree with you. And yeah, it's really interesting thinking about the sort of approaches that you can take to get different people engaged, and I think it will probably come. It'll probably come back to nature again, being a really popular thing that people across all different strata of society want to protect. But I think that yeah, it's something that we want to work more on is like the hearts and minds piece behind the training. So.
275 00:50:04.490 --> 00:50:04.850 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): Absolutely.
276 00:50:04.850 --> 00:50:29.849 Abby Charlesworth: I think that that's the really affecting part that I was explaining to one of our other attendees about as well is that sort of emotive part of the training that's thinking about the future. Maybe they have families that they want to protect. You know they have children that they want to make sure that they can still access, or that the land they live on isn't a floodplain. So I think there's sort of like a lot of great work to be done with schools. We've actually just hired a schools coordinator as well.
277 00:50:29.850 --> 00:50:52.890 Abby Charlesworth: so that they can have a sort of community impact from the school level outwards as well, and that obviously ties into local authorities in lots of different ways as well. But something I'm really interested in and sort of like creating different pathways to access the learning. So if you wanted to have like a separate chat about that, I would be really open to welcome that conversation for sure.
278 00:50:53.930 --> 00:50:54.690 David Morgan-Jones (Ewshot PC): Thanks. Abby.
279 00:50:54.690 --> 00:50:56.712 Abby Charlesworth: You're welcome. Thank you for coming.
280 00:50:57.050 --> 00:50:58.650 Andrew Maliphant: Hey! Amanda!
281 00:50:59.330 --> 00:51:01.369 Amanda Davis: Continuing beautiful segues.
282 00:51:01.860 --> 00:51:17.759 Amanda Davis: Hello, Abby, and everybody, and thank you for this. It's as usual, it's sparked off so many different avenues. But while we just talk about segwaying in on the school side. We have a project within Cotswold national landscape.
283 00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:37.870 Amanda Davis: so on. Everyone's even load, for example, and also on gosh! I can't remember it now, but the project name, anyway, involves a member of staff whose job it is to do this is exactly around educating for nature and working with young people.
284 00:51:37.870 --> 00:51:45.340 Abby Charlesworth: Is it the National education, Nature Park, where schools have to try and like, improve the biodiversity of their school grounds?
285 00:51:45.340 --> 00:51:51.009 Amanda Davis: No, but I want to know about that. Say that again, and I'll write that down.
286 00:51:51.010 --> 00:51:53.539 Abby Charlesworth: National education, nature Park.
287 00:51:54.043 --> 00:52:03.679 Abby Charlesworth: I sort of feel as though it's a really great initiative, but teachers are already quite stretched. So, asking them to go ahead and improve the biodiversity of their school grounds might be a bit of a stretch.
288 00:52:03.680 --> 00:52:04.520 Amanda Davis: However.
289 00:52:05.210 --> 00:52:34.309 Amanda Davis: in our case we've got this person within cotsword national landscape. It happens to be that they're headquartered in my village where our Parish Council is, and I'm a counselor, and they're looking for places to get these youngsters engaged with pieces of land. And what have you and Hello! Your school playing rounds, you know, and anyway, they're doing the borders. And what have you? But I just mentioned that we, you know, if that was something offline
290 00:52:34.310 --> 00:52:43.949 Amanda Davis: that would be a good connection than the national landscapes. Some of them have projects that are very much about, because after the Glover report, it was about improving access.
291 00:52:44.400 --> 00:53:01.070 Amanda Davis: those people that wouldn't typically have engaged. And so, young people being the future generations, that will access is a great big one for us. But the term Co. Benefits. I'm not sure if you said that, but that's what you teach, isn't it? On the.
292 00:53:01.070 --> 00:53:11.040 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah, absolutely. That's a big part of the course as well thinking about. If you take one action towards like limiting climate change, it can actually have a wealth of other positive effects, as well.
293 00:53:11.040 --> 00:53:20.710 Amanda Davis: Talk, climate change, talk about nature, talk about cost of living crisis, and what you can save and talk about all these other things. Oh, and, by the way, it's good for the climate.
294 00:53:20.750 --> 00:53:21.640 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah.
295 00:53:21.640 --> 00:53:28.850 Amanda Davis: Which might sound a bit manipulative if it's done that, obviously. But actually, you can just do it naturally.
296 00:53:29.050 --> 00:53:30.880 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah, exactly.
297 00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:54.320 Amanda Davis: So I wanted to go back to why I originally put my hand up because they were all said, since I did the carbon literacy qualification, and you mentioned about, save our Shropshire. I believe that the Slcc. So the society of Local Council clerks training which my Council paid for me to go on alongside another councillor. I had connection issues on the second of the 2 half days.
298 00:53:54.600 --> 00:54:05.000 Amanda Davis: and they said they'd try and get me in on another one. But obviously that opportunity is gone. So I really would like to just get signed off so that there's 1 more
299 00:54:05.070 --> 00:54:15.839 Amanda Davis: kind of accredited person, and given that I'm a qualified teacher. I'd love to do the train, the trainer and the spread it out, and the other quick thing to say is important.
300 00:54:16.030 --> 00:54:23.840 Amanda Davis: Our Parish Council had set up through its Parish Environment Committee, an education sorry, an environment action working group.
301 00:54:24.020 --> 00:54:40.969 Amanda Davis: But it then found that because it was it was Parish Council. It had all that bureaucracy. It couldn't quite resource itself to keep going, producing the minutes, putting out the notices. So we've set up something. That's a lot looser now. And when I say we, I mean a group of residents.
302 00:54:41.170 --> 00:55:00.760 Amanda Davis: and we've called it Borton S. Network, or it could be shortened to Borton's network. The S is for sustainability, and we write about things in the monthly magazine that goes around the village, and we are setting up different subgroups and Whatsapp groups. And we're just making it so that it hasn't got this
303 00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:12.639 Amanda Davis: sort of bureaucratic structure. And like, I mean, very inspired by this banter sessions, you know, and the great collaboration, what I'm trying to do is set something up that will have its own life.
304 00:55:12.730 --> 00:55:28.959 Amanda Davis: It'll ebb and flow. But if somebody comes into the village that's interested in Evs, then they can join the Ev group and work out where to park or how to share, or whatever it is on the car front. If somebody else is interested in bats and swift boxes and owls, and then we can put them into that group. And
305 00:55:29.150 --> 00:55:46.749 Amanda Davis: and citizen science, and getting people in the water and testing and put them into our flood group of Parish Council. But we're not putting out a call saying Parish Council under their flood committee, would like to recruit volunteers to, because that then just puts people off. We found.
306 00:55:46.750 --> 00:56:16.339 Abby Charlesworth: Yeah, definitely, I think you're exactly on the mark there as well. And I think there is a lot to be gained from thinking about in that co-benefits way. So what can we all gain as a community if we do A B and C action? For example, if we did start community garden. Perhaps we could all share the harvest, and then we've limited some of our food miles, or saved some money on our food bill just by spending an hour a week each on this resource together. So yeah, there's loads to be gained from taking this approach, and sounds like you've got a great initiative going on there in Borton, as well.
307 00:56:16.340 --> 00:56:35.240 Amanda Davis: It's right at the beginning, and I want everybody here to know that Parish councils, you know, even those of us that have got one or 2 real kind of strong proponents of this struggle with their Parish Council momentum, and getting people away from dealing with the must do's to the
308 00:56:35.700 --> 00:56:38.220 Amanda Davis: what they see as nice to halves.
309 00:56:38.220 --> 00:56:44.662 Abby Charlesworth: And seeing how they're all joined together. And actually, you can get the nice to have by doing the like. Have to do's as well.
310 00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:56.510 Amanda Davis: Climate change isn't a nice to have. I just want to make sure everybody knows I don't think that it's a must have, but it's how you go about it. Isn't it? So? Just a massive big. Thank you for your session, Abby.
311 00:56:56.510 --> 00:57:10.769 Abby Charlesworth: No, thank you so much for coming, and I'm I'm sure you'll be able to see the slides. Sorry that they didn't work straight away. But I've got them all sent across to Graham, so you should be able to distribute them. You'll be able to have a look through at your leisure, and I'll have a look into like finding a course so you can get.
312 00:57:10.770 --> 00:57:11.180 Amanda Davis: Okay.
313 00:57:11.180 --> 00:57:17.439 Andrew Maliphant: Half of your training done as well. That sounds like something which you should be able to solve without too much hassle. Hopefully.
314 00:57:17.650 --> 00:57:21.470 Amanda Davis: Thank you. I'll catch up with you after. Thank you.
315 00:57:21.770 --> 00:57:26.290 Andrew Maliphant: And feel free to get back to me. If there's a thing around Slcc, because I've got a
316 00:57:26.600 --> 00:57:29.580 Andrew Maliphant: pipeline in there as well. Yeah.
317 00:57:29.620 --> 00:57:53.609 Andrew Maliphant: in general terms. Communication is the name of the game these days. This is the big thing. We need to spend as much time on that as almost anything else at the moment, and certainly the good practice of how people can get engaged. Also needs to be shared. There's not going to be. There's a lot of stuff out there on the one hand, but there's a lot of different ways. People can get involved on the other. And Amanda, you've just given us a great run through the different ways there. So.
318 00:57:53.720 --> 00:58:09.739 Andrew Maliphant: as I say, many a time, and I say it every day, and I'll say it again. Let us go forward together, and we'll never surrender, because we need to do all of these things and help other people to do it too absolutely well. It's been a brilliant session as well. We're just coming up to the hour. Sound like a Dj. Don't I?
319 00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:17.780 Andrew Maliphant: It's time for the news from whoever it is. But Graham Graham has his hand up.
320 00:58:17.780 --> 00:58:20.789 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Just wanted to say that next week
321 00:58:21.090 --> 00:58:25.220 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Linda Aspy will be back, and for those of you who've been on before.
322 00:58:25.240 --> 00:58:46.910 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Excuse me, Linda is the lady who terrifies you and reassures you in the same sentence, or 1st half second. So if you enjoy being absolutely horrified at the state of your mind and your anxiety levels and everything else, and then need a helping hand to get you out of that, Abbas. Then it's well worth coming to Linda's show next week.
323 00:58:47.310 --> 00:58:47.675 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah.
324 00:58:48.040 --> 00:58:49.060 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: So thank you all.
325 00:58:49.060 --> 00:58:53.620 Andrew Maliphant: Sounds like something I could do. Yeah, great stuff.
326 00:58:53.940 --> 00:59:10.180 Andrew Maliphant: Abby, thank you so much for coming along. Thank you so much for your enthusiasm, inspiration, and you will be receiving your calls from us. We will not let you let rest. We will keep in touch with you. Are there any more questions for Abby around the table before we close the session, because it's been a great session.
327 00:59:12.490 --> 00:59:20.419 Andrew Maliphant: not none more. For today, it appears the the this recording and every presentation will be put up on on the knowledge base report. Oh, Amanda, Amanda!
328 00:59:20.689 --> 00:59:25.000 Amanda Davis: Just a reminder to Abby that she promised she'd put her email address in the chat.
329 00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:28.439 Abby Charlesworth: Oh, I think it is in there. I'll put it in at the bottom again just.
330 00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:29.150 Amanda Davis: It's increasing.
331 00:59:29.150 --> 00:59:32.179 Abby Charlesworth: Been swiped by the other ones. But let me.
332 00:59:32.180 --> 00:59:33.190 Amanda Davis: Do apologise. Thank you.
333 00:59:33.190 --> 00:59:36.700 Abby Charlesworth: No, no worries. I'll just pop it in now before we all part way.
334 00:59:36.935 --> 00:59:40.469 Andrew Maliphant: The regular. It's the one that's been there from before, isn't it? Local authorities? There.
335 00:59:40.470 --> 01:00:02.809 Abby Charlesworth: That is, that's correct. Yeah. But I just wanted to say a huge thank you to everyone for coming along. And it's been such an interesting session, and great to hear what you're up to, and try and support you, and as ever, please just do get in touch. I want to keep the momentum going. And it's people like you who are working where you are to make a really massive difference which just is part of what carbon Literacy is, and we couldn't do it without you. So I just want to thank you for all of your hard work as well.
336 01:00:03.150 --> 01:00:04.310 Andrew Maliphant: Well said, well said.
337 01:00:04.310 --> 01:00:04.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: Thanks, so.
338 01:00:04.830 --> 01:00:05.750 tristram cary: Thank you very much.
339 01:00:05.750 --> 01:00:06.149 Stuart Withington: Thank you.
340 01:00:06.450 --> 01:00:08.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration: See you all next week. Bye, bye.
341 01:00:08.600 --> 01:00:09.690 Stuart Withington: Bye, bye.
