Banter 27: Creating Biodiverse Woodlands (& ESG), 10Jul24, Michael Cunningham

Michael explains "Why Nine Trees?", and then covers all their programmes to ensure that trees planted under their care get every chance to grow to full size and maximum CO2 engorgement

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WEBVTT 1 00:11:41.260 --> 00:11:42.190 tristram cary: Morning Andrew. 2 00:11:43.267 --> 00:11:44.580 Andrew Maliphant: You're in great. 3 00:11:46.400 --> 00:11:47.670 tristram cary: Gosh! Am I the first.st 4 00:11:48.070 --> 00:11:53.212 Andrew Maliphant: Oh, no! Janet is coming. Here comes Janet. I'm just trying to get trying to get our speaker in, because 5 00:11:53.890 --> 00:11:54.460 Andrew Maliphant: The. 6 00:11:54.835 --> 00:11:55.210 tristram cary: Day. 7 00:11:55.210 --> 00:11:57.373 Andrew Maliphant: The joining up isn't working very well at the moment. 8 00:12:01.150 --> 00:12:02.170 Andrew Maliphant: Okay, I 9 00:12:04.890 --> 00:12:07.580 Andrew Maliphant: yeah. When Graham comes back he'll need to check the 10 00:12:09.220 --> 00:12:10.610 Andrew Maliphant: The regular login. 11 00:13:17.500 --> 00:13:18.233 Michael Cunningham: Hi Andrew. 12 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:19.990 Andrew Maliphant: I up 13 00:13:23.015 --> 00:13:29.349 Andrew Maliphant: we made it great. I was just about to send you another way in. Yeah, the system is not always being the 14 00:13:30.031 --> 00:13:35.260 Andrew Maliphant: so Graham, who manages the whole deal is a is a float on the bare Biscay at the moment. So 15 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.669 Andrew Maliphant: so I think progress with one or 2 things. But anyway, your ear, this is the main thing. 16 00:13:39.970 --> 00:13:44.199 Andrew Maliphant: Great. Do you wanna just check that? You can share your screen, Michael. 17 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:46.100 Michael Cunningham: Yep. 18 00:13:47.970 --> 00:13:48.899 Michael Cunningham: just see. 19 00:13:50.580 --> 00:13:53.010 Michael Cunningham: Yep, I appear to be able to. 20 00:13:53.400 --> 00:13:54.900 Andrew Maliphant: Fantastic. Good. Yeah. 21 00:13:56.040 --> 00:14:07.946 Andrew Maliphant: I'll check, which obviously you could always set it to be, and I could be your gopher. But if you can do it. That's fine, so we'll get to wait for people to join in, and we are coming in. And 22 00:14:08.750 --> 00:14:10.349 Andrew Maliphant: Hi, Janet! Hi, Jenny! 23 00:14:10.350 --> 00:14:10.840 Janet Cobb: No. 24 00:14:12.835 --> 00:14:15.044 Andrew Maliphant: When it comes to it, so we'll 25 00:14:15.410 --> 00:14:18.619 Andrew Maliphant: give people a couple more minutes. It's just 1 min to 12. Michael. 26 00:14:19.460 --> 00:14:20.642 Michael Cunningham: Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, of course. 27 00:14:20.910 --> 00:14:22.589 Stuart Withington: Within the last, like 3 months. 28 00:14:23.180 --> 00:14:25.379 Andrew Maliphant: I have. I have a series around. 29 00:14:25.619 --> 00:14:28.730 Stuart Withington: In. In a meeting at the moment, can you call me back? 30 00:14:31.350 --> 00:14:35.690 Stuart Withington: When would be a good time to call back? Oh, 4 o'clock. 31 00:14:39.330 --> 00:14:41.010 Stuart Withington: Okay, okay. 32 00:14:44.860 --> 00:14:46.100 Andrew Maliphant: Let's see what I have. 33 00:14:48.470 --> 00:15:01.069 Andrew Maliphant: Cheers, Stuart. Yeah, I was looking to see if I could meet you. But I mean I'm I'm on my laptop today, which doesn't seem to give me all the facilities and controls that we we love and enjoy. So. But we're alright. Okay. 34 00:15:01.980 --> 00:15:04.930 Andrew Maliphant: So we just wait a couple more minutes for people to come, and I shall 35 00:15:05.220 --> 00:15:13.154 Andrew Maliphant: introduce Michael briefly, because then he can be. He'll be. But do a much better job. I'm sure of introducing himself and and 9 trees, and and what they're all about. 36 00:15:15.307 --> 00:15:20.699 Andrew Maliphant: Graham. As I say, Graham solits is afloat on the bare biscuit. At the moment he 37 00:15:20.880 --> 00:15:25.440 Andrew Maliphant: he thought he might be able to log in. It depends on whether he's storm bound in a port in Portugal or not. 38 00:15:25.896 --> 00:15:30.009 Andrew Maliphant: I could think of worse things than being stormbowed into port in Portugal. I'm quite a fan of Portland. 39 00:15:31.366 --> 00:15:44.633 Andrew Maliphant: but that's just apparently on his, on his trip out to to Iberia from from the Isle of Wight. They were doing 150 miles a day, which apparently is pretty good going for a 32 foot, anyway, it's not my world, but 40 00:15:45.550 --> 00:15:47.469 Andrew Maliphant: he was pretty pleased with that. 41 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.379 Andrew Maliphant: yes, I did tell him. I have to be careful. So there we are. 42 00:15:52.840 --> 00:16:00.401 Andrew Maliphant: We are being recorded, of course. So if people don't want to have that their their front room shown on television. 43 00:16:01.393 --> 00:16:05.626 Andrew Maliphant: it can always just close your video screens. But 44 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:07.430 Andrew Maliphant: there we go. 45 00:16:07.570 --> 00:16:10.207 Andrew Maliphant: I'm actually my front room rather than upstairs. It's 46 00:16:11.210 --> 00:16:15.199 Andrew Maliphant: It's quite nice up. Yeah, yeah. Come in. Come in my front room more often. 47 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:20.540 Andrew Maliphant: Good. Good. 48 00:16:21.660 --> 00:16:24.970 Andrew Maliphant: We'll give it a couple of minutes, and then we'll start. Yeah. 49 00:16:31.130 --> 00:16:37.163 Andrew Maliphant: I'll say your your ears may have been burning the other day, Tristram. This morning I was talking. Some people at Middlesex University have been talking to you so 50 00:16:38.285 --> 00:16:38.640 tristram cary: Good. 51 00:16:38.640 --> 00:16:40.489 Andrew Maliphant: Another time. Yeah. 52 00:16:40.490 --> 00:16:41.260 tristram cary: Excellent. 53 00:16:41.540 --> 00:16:47.300 Michael Cunningham: Is there a way that you want to briefly introduce who you guys are? So I know who I'm speaking with. 54 00:16:47.520 --> 00:16:48.290 Andrew Maliphant: Okay, should we? 55 00:16:48.290 --> 00:16:48.990 tristram cary: That one. 56 00:16:48.990 --> 00:16:54.190 Michael Cunningham: Your your kind of green credentials, or are you businesses? Landowners like 57 00:16:54.818 --> 00:16:57.129 Michael Cunningham: council members? What? 58 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:01.480 Michael Cunningham: Just briefly, if everyone can just give me a little interlude that'd be great. 59 00:17:01.690 --> 00:17:13.990 Andrew Maliphant: Great stuff, Michael. Well, I'm I'm Andrew Malaffan. I'm a retired Paris clerk and currently chairman of the great collaboration standing in for Graham, who is afloat on the briny. I've just asked people to go on. Tristram, do you wanna. 60 00:17:13.990 --> 00:17:19.160 tristram cary: I think perhaps it's perhaps, though in general we're mostly involved with local council 61 00:17:19.500 --> 00:17:31.809 tristram cary: councils. I think that's mostly anyway. And we're we're all part of this great collaboration which is trying to provide us a lot, collect a library of guidance and and data so that everybody can do climate planning better. 62 00:17:32.120 --> 00:17:38.480 tristram cary: And I'm I'm from which Field Parish Council and I also run a company that has a product called Parish Online. 63 00:17:38.510 --> 00:17:43.070 tristram cary: which is a A as a Gis platform for for local councils. 64 00:17:43.870 --> 00:17:47.460 Andrew Maliphant: Alright, thank you. Jenny Hodson, do you want to say a couple of words. 65 00:17:47.720 --> 00:18:06.759 Jenny Hodgson Stanwick PC: Yeah, sure, I'm a parish clock in Stanik, in Northamptonshire. These banter sessions have just come to my attention. So this is the 1st one I have attended. We're always looking to improve our our. You know, our biodiversity. We're a rural parish, so anything I can learn. I'm happy to take forward. 66 00:18:07.770 --> 00:18:10.060 Andrew Maliphant: Thank you very much, Jenny. Janet Cobb. 67 00:18:10.500 --> 00:18:15.239 Janet Cobb: Yeah. Hi, I'm parish clerk in the little village Edgerton, in Shropshire. 68 00:18:15.250 --> 00:18:19.439 Janet Cobb: and I'm also on the board of Middle Marches Community Land Trust. 69 00:18:20.050 --> 00:18:24.662 Andrew Maliphant: Yes, indeed, yeah, Jenny, and I've been John. I'll be in touch before I came to one of your events at Nijana. It was a great. 70 00:18:24.840 --> 00:18:29.040 Janet Cobb: Right. Yeah, Natalie Bennett, agreed to come to that. 71 00:18:29.310 --> 00:18:31.209 Janet Cobb: You gave it to the left country. 72 00:18:31.610 --> 00:18:33.700 Andrew Maliphant: It was good. John Payne. 73 00:18:34.510 --> 00:18:35.205 John Payne: Hi, 74 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:43.800 John Payne: I'm a woodland manager and part owner in the village shop. I have a background in medicine, and I live in the Y. Valley. 75 00:18:43.980 --> 00:18:51.670 John Payne: I'm a member of extinction rebellion. I'm heavily involved in the Save the Y campaign. 76 00:18:51.730 --> 00:19:01.029 John Payne: and also as the A. 40 which is partially closed by a landslip for 5 months, which is the main road into Wales. 77 00:19:01.460 --> 00:19:06.909 John Payne: and we've done surveys on that. And this is the direct result of increased rainfall 78 00:19:07.140 --> 00:19:10.739 John Payne: due to climate change and the instability of the hillside. 79 00:19:12.100 --> 00:19:13.059 John Payne: Thank you, guys. 80 00:19:13.060 --> 00:19:13.670 Andrew Maliphant: Film. 81 00:19:14.060 --> 00:19:15.480 John Payne: Yeah. Yeah. 82 00:19:15.860 --> 00:19:16.640 John Payne: Yep. 83 00:19:16.940 --> 00:19:18.660 Andrew Maliphant: Huge innings. It says. 84 00:19:18.660 --> 00:19:21.039 Huw Jennings: Yeah, I know. Sorry. That's my husband. 85 00:19:21.940 --> 00:19:22.780 Andrew Maliphant: So I'm on. 86 00:19:22.780 --> 00:19:24.090 Huw Jennings: Selena Jennings. 87 00:19:24.523 --> 00:19:30.339 Huw Jennings: and I'm on Ushop Parish Council, which is a tiny council in North Hampshire, between Fleet 88 00:19:30.760 --> 00:19:32.010 Huw Jennings: and Farnham. 89 00:19:32.370 --> 00:19:41.840 Huw Jennings: and this is my 1st time on one of these sessions. It was recommended to me by a fellow counselor, and we're just on a sort of information gathering exercise to see what we can do 90 00:19:41.910 --> 00:19:45.180 Huw Jennings: in terms of our environment and the biodiversity. 91 00:19:46.130 --> 00:19:50.369 Andrew Maliphant: Fantastic, very welcome to your 1st meeting, John Fagan and a gentleman. 92 00:19:51.380 --> 00:19:59.149 John Fagan: Hello, everybody! My name is John Fagan. I am CEO. At Scribe we build apps to help time, press councils. 93 00:19:59.790 --> 00:20:02.349 Andrew Maliphant: Fantastic. Thank you, John Stuart. 94 00:20:03.290 --> 00:20:09.240 Stuart Withington: Hi, thanks I'm Stuart. A retired Nhs consultant 95 00:20:10.089 --> 00:20:14.939 Stuart Withington: now a town counselor in Great Dunmore in Essex. 96 00:20:15.120 --> 00:20:19.459 Stuart Withington: and I'm also chair of the Climate emergency team. 97 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:23.460 Andrew Maliphant: Lovely job. Thanks, Stuart, Mary Moore, please. 98 00:20:26.110 --> 00:20:35.250 Mary Moore: Oh, Hi! I'm Mary and I. Chair small parish council. That like yours, Eleanor, but mine is near Tiverton in Devon. 99 00:20:36.075 --> 00:20:46.079 Mary Moore: And I also do quite a lot locally around from the environment just converted my house totally to wind turbine energy, which is 100 00:20:46.785 --> 00:20:51.780 Mary Moore: quite interesting, but is now foregoing. So that's brilliant. 101 00:20:52.426 --> 00:20:53.099 tristram cary: I'm glad. 102 00:20:53.410 --> 00:20:59.179 Andrew Maliphant: I'm I'm making a note of that. Mary will be in touch. Gary Ford, please. 103 00:21:01.120 --> 00:21:02.440 Andrew Maliphant: You'll say a quick word. 104 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:14.559 Garry Ford: Yeah. Hi, yeah, I'm Gary. I'm from Caution town Council. I'm the environmental officer here. Caution Town Council, where a small council on in Wiltshire, on the edge of the Cotswolds. 105 00:21:15.790 --> 00:21:21.389 Andrew Maliphant: Thank you. Yeah. And we we met at the noun event quite recently, didn't we? Gary, yeah, indeed. 106 00:21:21.670 --> 00:21:22.320 Garry Ford: I was there. 107 00:21:22.780 --> 00:21:25.500 Andrew Maliphant: Wendy Thompson. Do you want to say a couple of words about yourself? 108 00:21:25.500 --> 00:21:29.793 Wendy Thomson Stonehouse Gloucestershire: I, yeah, I've literally just managed to get on because it wouldn't let me 109 00:21:30.571 --> 00:21:36.359 Wendy Thomson Stonehouse Gloucestershire: open I'm just trying to click the button to do my video. But that's not working either. 110 00:21:37.110 --> 00:21:46.129 Wendy Thomson Stonehouse Gloucestershire: Oh, it says, stop video. But I don't think I got video on, anyway. Okay. So I'll just talk so. No, I just. I was a counselor, and I I 111 00:21:46.550 --> 00:21:48.900 Wendy Thomson Stonehouse Gloucestershire: there was a bit of a muck up which 112 00:21:50.260 --> 00:22:04.680 Wendy Thomson Stonehouse Gloucestershire: war to go, for, so some of us didn't get back on. So we're I'm hoping to be Co. Opted back on to the Council. But that's not until the end of September, when they're having a meeting about it. So I'm in Gloucestershire in Stone House. 113 00:22:04.930 --> 00:22:09.028 Wendy Thomson Stonehouse Gloucestershire: I'm particularly interested in this one cause. I think I've been following 114 00:22:09.450 --> 00:22:35.849 Wendy Thomson Stonehouse Gloucestershire: 9 trees for quite some time and making comments and all their Facebook activities and supporting them as much as I can. I yeah, I'm just just keen to learn as much as possible, and if there are any particular projects I can encourage the Council on groups to get involved in. That's what I want to do so. I've probably listened to about at least 8 of these now since I found out about them, and they've all been brilliant. 115 00:22:35.870 --> 00:22:37.130 Wendy Thomson Stonehouse Gloucestershire: So thank you. 116 00:22:37.130 --> 00:22:40.969 Andrew Maliphant: Thanks for that. Jackie Lawrence, Jackie, you've you've got in. That's great. 117 00:22:41.020 --> 00:22:42.450 Andrew Maliphant: Do you want to say a couple of words? 118 00:22:49.140 --> 00:22:50.130 Andrew Maliphant: You're on. 119 00:22:50.130 --> 00:23:08.230 Jacky Lawrence, Napton PC Climate and Environment Working Party: I have no idea what's going wrong with the sign-in nowadays. It's so much the last week, and this week's been so much more difficult than it's ever been before. It just keeps going around in circles asking me to register. So I'm from Napton. I'm on the Parish Council working party for climate and environment. 120 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:09.100 Andrew Maliphant: Okay. 121 00:23:09.590 --> 00:23:24.179 Andrew Maliphant: thank you. Well, Graham's joining us from the boat, but we will. We'll talk about that, Graham, when you, when you, when you're back in the in the Uk. Great stuff we've got a Warrick. Webster just joined us. 122 00:23:24.590 --> 00:23:25.310 Warwick Webster: Aye. 123 00:23:26.990 --> 00:23:29.470 Andrew Maliphant: You want to say a couple of words about who you are, where you're from. So that's. 124 00:23:29.893 --> 00:23:42.179 Warwick Webster: Yeah, I am. I'm from a place called Burton Green, in Warwickshire, just outside sort of Coventry and I'm on the Parish Council one of my 125 00:23:42.250 --> 00:23:46.370 Warwick Webster: remixes biodiversity. So I've been trying to 126 00:23:47.050 --> 00:23:49.699 Warwick Webster: get trees planted in the parish. 127 00:23:49.750 --> 00:23:53.400 Warwick Webster: One of our biggest problems is we've got Hs 2, 128 00:23:53.540 --> 00:23:58.089 Warwick Webster: which is driven right the way through the village. It took out the village hall and various people so. 129 00:23:58.090 --> 00:23:59.020 Andrew Maliphant: Jersey. 130 00:23:59.020 --> 00:24:02.190 Warwick Webster: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And they, they they're building it. 131 00:24:02.220 --> 00:24:03.950 Warwick Webster: Well, they were building a tunnel. 132 00:24:03.980 --> 00:24:08.259 Warwick Webster: But it's the strangest way I've ever seen a tunnel built. It's called digging a trench. 133 00:24:08.850 --> 00:24:12.129 Warwick Webster: putting in the concrete and then putting the soil back on. 134 00:24:12.515 --> 00:24:21.369 Warwick Webster: It's not quite the way that the Victorians would have done it. I think Brunel might have done it a little bit better. But we obviously it's gone through 135 00:24:21.450 --> 00:24:23.309 Warwick Webster: 2 or 3 136 00:24:23.690 --> 00:24:26.139 Warwick Webster: areas of ancient woodland. 137 00:24:26.210 --> 00:24:30.900 Warwick Webster: I'm just taking them out so interested in how we can put trees back in. 138 00:24:31.540 --> 00:24:33.820 Andrew Maliphant: Right? Yeah. Don't get us started. Ihs, too. Yeah. 139 00:24:34.810 --> 00:24:35.800 Warwick Webster: Yeah. 140 00:24:36.061 --> 00:24:49.129 Andrew Maliphant: Thank you. Graham. And say, great great! To be in touch from across across the seas Graham always mentioned. Says he's our overseas member. In any case, he lives on the Isle of Wight. There we go. Thanks to that note in the chat Graham. 141 00:24:49.394 --> 00:24:54.789 Andrew Maliphant: David Morgan Jones. If you want to say a couple of words to introduce yourself, and they will ask a speaker to get him. 142 00:24:55.773 --> 00:25:02.250 David Morgan-Jones: Good good afternoon, everybody. I'm a parish counselor from you shot, which is in Hampshire, North Hampshire. 143 00:25:03.360 --> 00:25:04.999 David Morgan-Jones: And I 144 00:25:05.520 --> 00:25:13.809 David Morgan-Jones: the net 0 lead for the Council. But I'm also helping Heart District Council with their strategic planning 145 00:25:14.310 --> 00:25:16.170 David Morgan-Jones: in the same space. 146 00:25:17.060 --> 00:25:18.360 Andrew Maliphant: Right? Okay 147 00:25:18.660 --> 00:25:19.610 Andrew Maliphant: of a job. 148 00:25:19.918 --> 00:25:21.460 Michael Cunningham: Brilliant. I think that's everyone. 149 00:25:21.460 --> 00:25:40.059 Andrew Maliphant: I think we've got some good coverage there. And so, Michael, Michael is the the founder, I believe, of of 9 trees with a mission to develop biodiverse woodlands. And I I will let leave the floor to you, Michael, and you can tell us all about yourself and what you're taking to achieve, and and what what you would like to share with us. 150 00:25:41.170 --> 00:25:47.970 Michael Cunningham: Brilliant. Well, thank you very much for inviting me. And thank you, Graham, for in your initial contact. 151 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:51.579 Michael Cunningham: and I think I started following you about a year ago. 152 00:25:52.554 --> 00:25:53.299 Michael Cunningham: and 153 00:25:53.632 --> 00:25:57.689 Michael Cunningham: have been following the video. So I'm really glad that that's all happening. 154 00:25:58.135 --> 00:25:59.860 Michael Cunningham: Can you see my screen? 155 00:26:00.290 --> 00:26:00.890 Michael Cunningham: Yeah. 156 00:26:00.890 --> 00:26:01.289 Andrew Maliphant: Thanks for the. 157 00:26:01.290 --> 00:26:01.720 Huw Jennings: Yep. 158 00:26:03.140 --> 00:26:09.499 Michael Cunningham: And I'm sorry if it's got like some mute and stop video stuff at the top. But I can't change that. So 159 00:26:10.058 --> 00:26:17.230 Michael Cunningham: so basically, I'm the founder of 9 trees. Cic, so we are a community interest company. 160 00:26:17.490 --> 00:26:22.149 Michael Cunningham: And we're basically creating nature biodiverse woodlands throughout the Uk. 161 00:26:22.847 --> 00:26:33.779 Michael Cunningham: my background is in habitat management and sustainability. But also I've done a lot of work. In like tourism and business and the arts in mid Wales. 162 00:26:33.830 --> 00:26:45.599 Michael Cunningham: So I was like one of the youngest directors of tourist partnership mid Wales, which is kind of like the Welsh Tourist board. And I ran Irwin Station craft center. Some of you from near in the Y valley might know it. 163 00:26:46.298 --> 00:26:49.650 Michael Cunningham: And my dad started that. So 164 00:26:50.750 --> 00:26:58.929 Michael Cunningham: basically, after a degree in wood woodland conservation in Hull. I then went and worked for like the Rspb. 165 00:26:59.070 --> 00:26:59.885 Michael Cunningham: And 166 00:27:01.280 --> 00:27:13.189 Michael Cunningham: all kinds of things like volunteering for the wooden trust and work for the environment agency work to the youth worker all kinds of things which you can see later on. My Linkedin, if you want to follow us. 167 00:27:14.980 --> 00:27:19.840 Michael Cunningham: And so basically, what we do is it's all about biodiversity and wellbeing. 168 00:27:20.040 --> 00:27:26.409 Michael Cunningham: It's not about carbon credits at the moment. It's also not about Bng, which is biodiversity net gain. 169 00:27:26.450 --> 00:27:30.409 Michael Cunningham: We basically want to make sure we're a bit different. 170 00:27:30.490 --> 00:27:34.910 Michael Cunningham: And also we don't want to get into the mess that that sometimes has created. 171 00:27:35.660 --> 00:27:48.460 Michael Cunningham: So I'll talk a bit more on that if if I want, if you want to, later. But really it's about creating something out of nothing. So I am the Woodland wizard on Linkedin. 172 00:27:48.540 --> 00:27:53.660 Michael Cunningham: and it's like the stone soup, you know. Everyone gives a little bit. So landowners give us land 173 00:27:54.384 --> 00:27:56.199 Michael Cunningham: businesses give us money 174 00:27:56.450 --> 00:28:01.229 Michael Cunningham: and individuals also give us money and hopefully, some volunteer time. 175 00:28:01.500 --> 00:28:05.070 Michael Cunningham: and we also accept pro bono support from experts. 176 00:28:05.350 --> 00:28:13.759 Michael Cunningham: Our role progression is quite good. So people who join us as volunteers and interns often go on to get paid 177 00:28:13.890 --> 00:28:15.090 Michael Cunningham: paint worth 178 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.620 Michael Cunningham: on a freelance basis, and then we create woodlands. 179 00:28:19.001 --> 00:28:24.499 Michael Cunningham: on land owners land which you can then visit, so you can either take your family and friends, or just yourself 180 00:28:25.232 --> 00:28:26.500 Michael Cunningham: or you can 181 00:28:27.191 --> 00:28:29.449 Michael Cunningham: take your clients and team. 182 00:28:30.070 --> 00:28:30.880 Michael Cunningham: So 183 00:28:31.040 --> 00:28:41.219 Michael Cunningham: why is it? 9 trees? Well, one tree sequesters only one ton of carbon in its lifetime. So we're working on averages here to make it a lot easier for people to understand 184 00:28:41.956 --> 00:28:47.499 Michael Cunningham: and 9 and one person emits 9 tons into the atmosphere every year. 185 00:28:47.630 --> 00:28:48.500 Michael Cunningham: So 186 00:28:49.030 --> 00:28:53.776 Michael Cunningham: that's an average. Obviously some people might quibble with that. And if you want to do your own 187 00:28:54.290 --> 00:28:56.530 Michael Cunningham: your own calculations, and you can. 188 00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.899 Michael Cunningham: You might decide to give me enough money to plant 4 trees or 24 trees. 189 00:29:01.490 --> 00:29:04.220 Michael Cunningham: So 9 trees per person per year. 190 00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:18.950 Michael Cunningham: and to make that happen even faster, as it's a climate crisis. We basically want to work with businesses who might plant 9 trees, or they might plant 90 trees. And in one case a business has planted 4,500 trees with us in in one year. 191 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:21.920 Michael Cunningham: and there's various different means. People go about that. 192 00:29:22.180 --> 00:29:35.569 Michael Cunningham: We've also got these blogs. There's many more on there now, this is quite an old slideshow. I am recreating the deck. But all kinds of blogs on. You know how to be better about the environment. But also day in the life of conservationists. 193 00:29:35.914 --> 00:29:38.759 Michael Cunningham: How we do our carbon calculations and things like that. 194 00:29:40.070 --> 00:29:44.689 Michael Cunningham: And this is how we work. I mentioned it before. So it's 195 00:29:45.020 --> 00:30:03.749 Michael Cunningham: basically we do all the work. So you don't have to. So you you probably don't have land, or you don't have money, or you don't have time. And so we link all the people who do that, and hopefully quell some of your Eco anxiety and sequest lots of carbon. But it's all about biodiversity and well-being. 196 00:30:04.611 --> 00:30:17.280 Michael Cunningham: So these are some of our woodlands again, it's updated. Now, we've now got 12 sites in the Uk. These are our 1st 8 and the map on the right is sites in discussion. That's also been updated, for some landowners have dropped off. 197 00:30:17.330 --> 00:30:20.589 Michael Cunningham: and we can't plant that many trees unless we get a lot of money. 198 00:30:21.288 --> 00:30:23.799 Michael Cunningham: So that map has slightly changed. 199 00:30:26.100 --> 00:30:28.690 Michael Cunningham: as I said, it's about wellbeing and mental health. 200 00:30:28.820 --> 00:30:31.920 Michael Cunningham: biodiversity, and careers. So 201 00:30:32.230 --> 00:30:37.590 Michael Cunningham: Isabella Hill joined us as a volunteer, and she worked her way up. And she's now a director. 202 00:30:37.926 --> 00:30:44.070 Michael Cunningham: Not that everyone will get to do that. But you know, being a paid operational manager from a volunteer in 4 years is is also excellent. 203 00:30:45.684 --> 00:30:54.420 Michael Cunningham: This is us in the field, doing ecology surveys, planting trees, managing the woodlands. That's actually a team of volunteers on the right there. 204 00:30:54.809 --> 00:31:00.499 Michael Cunningham: We do like cardboard cutting and woodchip around the trees, and that suppresses the weeds 205 00:31:00.550 --> 00:31:04.480 Michael Cunningham: and allows nutrients for the trees to grow even better. 206 00:31:04.916 --> 00:31:12.020 Michael Cunningham: So we don't use, you know, glyphosate or any wheat tillers, or anything like that, and we go in and manage it by hand. 207 00:31:12.350 --> 00:31:18.630 Michael Cunningham: and the labor is done voluntarily, but the trees are not planted voluntarily. The trees are planted with 208 00:31:18.800 --> 00:31:21.330 Michael Cunningham: proper conservationists and tree planters. 209 00:31:21.460 --> 00:31:22.930 Michael Cunningham: because we find that 210 00:31:23.070 --> 00:31:26.749 Michael Cunningham: if a conservationist plant sits, 80% of the trees live. 211 00:31:26.980 --> 00:31:42.949 Michael Cunningham: whereas if volunteers plant it. It takes a lot longer, and 80% of the trees die. And then we have to go and replant. So some people, it's great if you're green fingered maybe 50 or 60% of your trees will live. That's wonderful. But we'd prefer you to give us your day rate 212 00:31:43.180 --> 00:31:50.130 Michael Cunningham: and us do it professionally and manage it professionally, and then you come to the sites and help us with the labor intensive. 213 00:31:50.210 --> 00:31:52.640 Michael Cunningham: but not in such a way that you can kill a tree. 214 00:31:54.090 --> 00:31:59.359 Michael Cunningham: And yeah, basically, we've got the the stages involved on our website. 215 00:31:59.930 --> 00:32:08.740 Michael Cunningham: before we even set foot on land. So we've got 50 stages, land owner, coordination, a desk-based surveys, surveys, and many others. 216 00:32:08.970 --> 00:32:16.770 Michael Cunningham: and then we've got the planting plan, and then we step foot on the land and plant the trees. So all the surveys and and talking with the right 217 00:32:17.890 --> 00:32:21.229 Michael Cunningham: people like in our natural resources, Wales or environment, 218 00:32:21.660 --> 00:32:23.700 Michael Cunningham: agency is all done 219 00:32:24.091 --> 00:32:28.030 Michael Cunningham: for free for the landowner, and they also get the free States and guards 220 00:32:28.568 --> 00:32:30.779 Michael Cunningham: and the labour in some cases. 221 00:32:31.030 --> 00:32:36.710 Michael Cunningham: And then we've got 50 years of management, after which I can share to you guys, if you want to know more in depth. 222 00:32:37.800 --> 00:32:42.919 Michael Cunningham: these are some of our trees we planted. This is actually a site in Dorset. 223 00:32:43.030 --> 00:32:46.059 Michael Cunningham: and we planted about 15 different types of tree. 224 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:53.099 Michael Cunningham: And every year, for the 1st 5 years we go and replant. So that cost isn't passed on to the landowner either. 225 00:32:53.300 --> 00:33:10.968 Michael Cunningham: although again, they can't get carbon credits or bng at the moment we are working with Bristol University on a feasibility study of integrating Bng and carbon credits. But we really need to find the right landowner and the right businesses. You know, we don't want them to be sold on the open market. 226 00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:17.240 Michael Cunningham: And we don't want to fall foul of like greenwashing and things like that. So 227 00:33:17.380 --> 00:33:21.790 Michael Cunningham: we work with landowners and businesses to make sure that this is all done. 228 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.680 Michael Cunningham: Suppose, in the most holistic 229 00:33:24.940 --> 00:33:38.329 Michael Cunningham: kind of permaculture way, it's possible. So, as you can see, our our trees aren't evenly spaced, but they are about 2.5 meter spacing to 3 meter spacing. This means that these woodlands won't look like they've been planted 230 00:33:38.765 --> 00:33:44.240 Michael Cunningham: for harvesting, and they're certainly not. We're in a 50 year contract with the landowner 231 00:33:44.582 --> 00:33:49.419 Michael Cunningham: and we hope at the end of that contract they might sell us the woodland. 232 00:33:50.150 --> 00:33:56.209 Michael Cunningham: and people can leave us gifts in their will as legacy. So money as well as land 233 00:33:57.620 --> 00:34:20.089 Michael Cunningham: we do small small biodiversity surveys especially when landowners and businesses want to know what's on their land. So we're just rolling that out now. Really? Certainly. Next year it's our year 5 of some of our sites, and we want to do the second official survey. So we've done a baseline. 234 00:34:20.130 --> 00:34:24.030 Michael Cunningham: And then what's happened in the next couple of years. But 235 00:34:24.050 --> 00:34:32.990 Michael Cunningham: you know, in 2 2 years it's amazing how many field voles and and birds of prey come in and swoop down on the wonderful kind of Swardi grassland we've created. 236 00:34:34.578 --> 00:34:53.080 Michael Cunningham: This is how you can get involved. So this is for businesses generally, who want to do environmental social governance or corporate social responsibility. And we also do volunteer days. So the volunteer days are usually on the weekend and the team green away days for businesses which they pay for usually on Fridays or a day that they've asked for 237 00:34:54.670 --> 00:34:57.500 Michael Cunningham: And, as I mentioned before, it's about 238 00:34:57.970 --> 00:35:10.099 Michael Cunningham: creating a good habitat for the trees. So now we're just going up to more weeding and bramble, bashing things like that, whereas the 1st couple of years it's cardboarding and wood chip, and sometimes wool. 239 00:35:10.560 --> 00:35:18.070 Michael Cunningham: And this can really help you and your team with your mindfulness. And, as mentioned there, introduction to ecology, things like that. So 240 00:35:18.270 --> 00:35:37.780 Michael Cunningham: there's so much to say. But I'll just carry on. And maybe we can have some questions afterwards. So we're not about planting trees is the only option. You know, we know that it's about behavior change, and we know that it's about so many other things. So yes, like green energy changing your banks pension all that kind of stuff. 241 00:35:38.198 --> 00:35:41.380 Michael Cunningham: And it's just that I know how to create woodlands. 242 00:35:41.470 --> 00:35:44.599 Michael Cunningham: and there is a niche in us in that for us 243 00:35:44.640 --> 00:35:49.780 Michael Cunningham: usually small landowners about half an acre to like 5 hectares 244 00:35:50.252 --> 00:35:59.620 Michael Cunningham: and they're all altruistic landowners. And then there's businesses who want to tick the box do carbon credits? They've got to go elsewhere for that, but they can also say. 245 00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:03.590 Michael Cunningham: Do 5 50 tons in a different country 246 00:36:03.600 --> 00:36:06.280 Michael Cunningham: carbon credits, and they can do 50 trees with us. 247 00:36:06.290 --> 00:36:10.439 Michael Cunningham: So it's about then them having an extra box that they can tell people about. 248 00:36:11.025 --> 00:36:11.420 Michael Cunningham: and 249 00:36:11.610 --> 00:36:14.490 Michael Cunningham: and which is biodiversity and well, being 250 00:36:14.934 --> 00:36:18.169 Michael Cunningham: and social change. And you know, creating biodiverse 251 00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:20.089 Michael Cunningham: network throughout the UK. 252 00:36:21.370 --> 00:36:26.800 Michael Cunningham: These are some of our prices, you know. So ranges from 2 pound a month, one off gifts 253 00:36:27.450 --> 00:36:31.159 Michael Cunningham: special gifts where you get a lovely little wooden tree, 254 00:36:32.170 --> 00:36:33.210 Michael Cunningham: tree disk. 255 00:36:33.240 --> 00:36:48.519 Michael Cunningham: and to put on your mantle shelf or hang on your Christmas tree or give to someone when they're 50 or when they're 18, and say, I've planted a tree for you. And you can go and visit it. It's in Wales or England, and then it's got specific geolocation of the site. 256 00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:51.769 Michael Cunningham: And we're working with Bath University to do 257 00:36:52.146 --> 00:36:59.660 Michael Cunningham: more in-depth duolication, and also the mortality of the tree. So you can literally see when the when the wind blows the tree. 258 00:37:00.151 --> 00:37:10.749 Michael Cunningham: That costs a bit more money. So we we've got to work in partnership with a business, and we won't be doing that on every tree. It would be like every 100 or every 500 trees. 259 00:37:10.790 --> 00:37:16.050 Michael Cunningham: So you know what's going on? You know. Oh, it's windy in Wales, and the blossoms coming out. 260 00:37:16.060 --> 00:37:19.980 Michael Cunningham: and also my trees grown by 0 point 5 centimetres this year. 261 00:37:20.370 --> 00:37:21.940 Michael Cunningham: So that'll be an average again. 262 00:37:23.644 --> 00:37:36.399 Michael Cunningham: These are some of the companies we work with, and who have talked about us in their literature. So maybe, like the Forestry Journal to mention here Trados Bank, you know the farmer Wales farmer. 263 00:37:36.991 --> 00:37:38.820 Michael Cunningham: We work with loads of different people. 264 00:37:39.100 --> 00:37:46.560 Michael Cunningham: And there are Sdg Goals. Obviously there's 17. But we mainly work on these 4 or 5 at the side. 265 00:37:47.580 --> 00:37:50.390 Michael Cunningham: So there's all this can come in a press pack 266 00:37:50.410 --> 00:37:51.600 Michael Cunningham: to anyone. 267 00:37:52.226 --> 00:37:54.570 Michael Cunningham: And this is me. 268 00:37:54.640 --> 00:37:56.000 Michael Cunningham: the Woodland Wizard. 269 00:37:57.190 --> 00:38:05.430 Michael Cunningham: And if you scan that QR code you can follow me on Linkedin. But it's really easy on Linkedin just to search Michael Cunningham or 9 Trees Cic. 270 00:38:05.660 --> 00:38:09.130 Michael Cunningham: and on social media. We're 9 trees. Uk. 271 00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:12.350 Michael Cunningham: and I think that's about it. 272 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:18.990 Michael Cunningham: It's probably lots more to mention. Oh, that's just for people who maybe don't know about soil sequestering carbon tree suppressed and carbon 273 00:38:19.190 --> 00:38:20.649 Michael Cunningham: and the carbon cycle. 274 00:38:21.300 --> 00:38:26.279 Michael Cunningham: because I find that sometimes I've got to move this to the front, depending on my audience. 275 00:38:26.820 --> 00:38:29.149 Michael Cunningham: Think that's it brilliant? Yeah. 276 00:38:29.670 --> 00:38:33.540 Michael Cunningham: So I'll stop sharing screen now and then. You can 277 00:38:33.850 --> 00:38:41.720 Michael Cunningham: ask your questions. Put them in the chat if you want to, as well, and if I can't answer anything for some reason I can follow up by 278 00:38:41.970 --> 00:38:42.900 Michael Cunningham: email. 279 00:38:45.100 --> 00:39:12.920 Andrew Maliphant: Well, that was absolutely fabulous. And what a joy to know and meet somebody that's not only passionate about something, but is getting out there and doing it, which is fantastic. Thank you so much on a personal note. I'm so pleased that you put in the English name and the Latin names as well. I mean, many years ago I had a survey report from a company, and instead of saying Oak tree, they just said, Quirkus Robo, I thought, okay, thank you very much. So I appreciate that. 280 00:39:13.127 --> 00:39:19.779 Andrew Maliphant: So I've got a couple of things to ask you at at some point, and if anybody else want to start the ball rolling and and ask a mic a question, or. 281 00:39:19.780 --> 00:39:24.060 Michael Cunningham: I've just got a there's a nifty little reaction button, if you don't know about it at the bottom 282 00:39:24.367 --> 00:39:31.312 Michael Cunningham: where you can put little thumbs up, or you can have a little celebrate or a little heart. So if you do have a question, 283 00:39:31.620 --> 00:39:35.190 Michael Cunningham: please use that the raise hand. There's 1 there as well to raise. 284 00:39:35.190 --> 00:39:37.360 Andrew Maliphant: Voicemail button. Quite right, yes, indeed. 285 00:39:37.580 --> 00:39:38.240 Andrew Maliphant: Pretty. 286 00:39:38.650 --> 00:39:41.509 Michael Cunningham: I've got one from Wendy. Thomas. Do you just want to come on in. 287 00:39:41.510 --> 00:39:43.360 Andrew Maliphant: Wendy. Come on, come on, down! 288 00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:50.069 Wendy Thomson Stonehouse Gloucestershire: Hi, so I'm just just oh, trying to press buttons again. Start the video. Here we go.

Banter 27: Creating Biodiverse Woodlands (& ESG), 10Jul24, Michael Cunningham

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