# Banter 72: 04Jun25 Emergency Resilience {% embed url="" %} banter session 72 video {% endembed %} ### Video Timeline (min:sec): 00:00 - Introduction *** ### Contact Richard: Visit the website: *** ### Presentation: No presentation this week - the video ***is*** the presentation! *** ### Meeting Summary: Jun 04, 2025 11:52 AM London ID: 834 5460 8536 ### Quick recap The meeting focused on community preparedness and resilience in the face of various emergencies, including floods, wildfires, power outages, and communication failures. Discussions covered the importance of local networks, emergency planning, and leveraging community resources to address potential challenges. The participants emphasized the need for collaboration between communities, local authorities, and existing groups to enhance preparedness and response capabilities. ### Next steps * [Parish/Town Councils: Create or update local asset register including skilled community members, equipment, and potential emergency locations](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=%2Bt%2FCAfzNSiWAUR43HsbUMQ%3D%3D\&stepId=7e4d1424-413c-11f0-8383-5a483e5a8f0b) * [Parish/Town Councils: Share existing community emergency plans with local authorities and fire & rescue services, especially if flood volunteers are present in the community](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=%2Bt%2FCAfzNSiWAUR43HsbUMQ%3D%3D\&stepId=7e4d1b86-413c-11f0-8383-5a483e5a8f0b) * [Parish/Town Councils: Establish hub and spoke communication structure within communities for emergency situations](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=%2Bt%2FCAfzNSiWAUR43HsbUMQ%3D%3D\&stepId=7e4d1f32-413c-11f0-8383-5a483e5a8f0b) * [Parish/Town Councils: Designate and communicate emergency meeting points for situations with complete communications breakdown](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=%2Bt%2FCAfzNSiWAUR43HsbUMQ%3D%3D\&stepId=7e4d22fc-413c-11f0-8383-5a483e5a8f0b) * [Parish/Town Councils: Review emergency plans at least annually and after any incidents or training exercises](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=%2Bt%2FCAfzNSiWAUR43HsbUMQ%3D%3D\&stepId=7e4d2608-413c-11f0-8383-5a483e5a8f0b) * [Jack: Prepare presentation on nature-based adaptation and transformation for next week's session](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=%2Bt%2FCAfzNSiWAUR43HsbUMQ%3D%3D\&stepId=7e4d28d8-413c-11f0-8383-5a483e5a8f0b) * [Jack: Connect with Richard regarding potential collaboration between Postcode Revolution project and Communities Prepared](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=%2Bt%2FCAfzNSiWAUR43HsbUMQ%3D%3D\&stepId=7e4d2c16-413c-11f0-8383-5a483e5a8f0b) * [Communities Prepared Team: Share email contact information through Graham for the wiki](https://us02tasks.zoom.us/?meetingId=%2Bt%2FCAfzNSiWAUR43HsbUMQ%3D%3D\&stepId=7e4d2f18-413c-11f0-8383-5a483e5a8f0b) ### Summary #### Flood Risk Management Challenges Andrew and Richard discussed the increasing interest in flood risk management, particularly from East Anglia, and the importance of understanding that floods can occur even on high ground due to factors like blocked drains or heavy rain. They highlighted a past flood in Gloucester where a substation nearly failed, potentially requiring the evacuation of 150,000 people, and noted that utility companies now have legal obligations to protect their sites. Andrew mentioned his involvement with Gloucester City Council during the event and expressed uncertainty about whether the substation's protection had been improved since then. #### Community Resilience Through Preparedness Richard introduced Communities Prepared, a national program funded by the national lottery aimed at helping communities become more prepared and resilient towards various hazards. He explained that the program started with flood volunteer training after the Somerset and Devon flooding in 2015 and expanded to include pandemic volunteer training during COVID-19. Richard noted that while some councils are proactive in emergency planning, others have been hesitant, citing a lack of statutory obligation and the role of local authorities and emergency services. He highlighted the current challenges in the UK, such as the ambulance crisis and long response times for emergency services in remote communities, emphasizing the need for community-focused resilience efforts. #### UK Emergency Preparedness Challenges Richard discussed the increasing challenges posed by flooding and wildfires in the UK, highlighting that the country is about 15-20 years behind in addressing wildfire risks compared to flooding. He emphasized the need for individuals and communities to prepare for emergencies, citing examples from other countries like Australia and Europe where self-sufficiency plans are more prevalent. Graham agreed that there is a degree of complacency in the UK, noting that people often rely on external support during emergencies. Richard mentioned that the UK government has been reluctant to have open conversations about emergency preparedness, leaving it to organizations like theirs to raise awareness. He encouraged attendees to visit their website for more information and to consider joining their free membership program to access training sessions and resources. #### Emergency Module Development Discussion Richard discussed the development of new emergency modules, including power outages, water and sewerage outages, and communication failures, with a pilot for the power outage module scheduled for the following night. Christine shared an experience from a recent storm in Kinver, where power and phone outages caused chaos, highlighting the need for a strategic plan and essential communication tools like the local phone box. Richard explained that the transition from copper to fiber-optic phone lines could exacerbate communication issues during power outages, but suggested requesting resilient phones with battery backups for essential needs. #### Community Emergency Response Network Richard discussed the importance of creating a hub and spoke structure within communities for emergency response, including local asset registers and three tiers of volunteers. He emphasized the need for a community network to pool information and identify vulnerable individuals during emergencies. Christine shared an example of community response during a storm, highlighting the effectiveness of local knowledge and spontaneous volunteer efforts. Graham mentioned a book about US communities' response to Hurricane Sandy as a resource for learning lessons. #### Community Resilience Planning Strategy Richard discussed a concept for community resilience, focusing on the idea of knowing 21 people within walking distance who can reach 21 others within three links, potentially including key professionals like trauma doctors and nurses. He emphasized the importance of building local networks and having agreed meeting points, such as village halls, in case of a communications breakdown. Graham noted that parish and town councils do not have a legal duty under the Civil Contingencies Act to plan for emergencies, though they have the power to assist other councils. The discussion highlighted the need for communities to prepare for potential challenges by identifying skills, establishing meeting points, and ensuring local cohesion. #### Community Emergency Planning Collaboration Richard emphasized the importance of leveraging community resources and local knowledge in emergency planning, advocating for collaboration with existing groups rather than creating new structures. He suggested mapping existing skills and assets within a community, rather than trying to identify specific skills in advance, and highlighted the value of creating interconnected networks between parishes and local authorities. Graham shared information about the signals branch in army cadet forces, which could potentially provide valuable communication support during emergencies. #### Emergency Communication and Preparedness Richard discussed emergency communication strategies, highlighting the importance of radio systems and ham radio enthusiasts for maintaining contact during outages. He emphasized the need for a living emergency plan that is shared with and owned by the community, rather than kept on a shelf by local authorities. Richard recommended reviewing plans annually and conducting both desk-based and real-world exercises to ensure readiness for various emergencies. #### Community Engagement and Climate Dialogue Richard discussed the importance of community partnerships and support, emphasizing the value of open conversations and understanding neighbors' perspectives. Jonathan raised a question about engaging climate deniers, to which Richard suggested using current events like the Ukraine war as an entry point, highlighting themes of resilience and preparedness. Richard advised focusing on finding common ground and gently exploring differences without challenging individuals directly, suggesting that this approach can help reduce isolation and address conspiracy theories. Graham added that leaving nature to its own devices might also be a useful strategy for addressing climate concerns. #### Community Resilience and Emergency Preparedness The meeting focused on various natural and man-made emergencies, including solar flares, volcanic eruptions, and pandemics, emphasizing the importance of preparedness and resilience. Richard highlighted the potential impact of a Carrington event on communications and power grids, while also discussing the need for community preparedness and the role of businesses in emergencies. Jack introduced his "Postcode Revolution" project, which aims to build community resilience at a hyper-local level, and mentioned he would adapt his upcoming presentation to focus on nature-based adaptation and transformation. The conversation ended with an agreement to share contact information for further collaboration on community resilience initiatives. *** ### Chat: 00:19:48 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Does anyone have experience of working with their local resilience forum? \ 00:22:50 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: We have some emerging guidance around flood risk assessment, with many thanks to Richard for his involvement in drafting \ 00:23:18 Christine Allen: Kinver had a problem during the last storm. Trees down, not electric and no mobile phone connection. \ 00:25:25 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: My impression is that any UK government is simply relying on the supermarket chains to keep food supply going \ 00:26:16 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: [Communities Prepared – A Groundwork South Project](https://www.communitiesprepared.org.uk/)
00:26:42 Christine Allen: Reacted to "Communities Prepared..." with 👍
00:27:29 Linda Aspey: Reacted to "Communities Prepared..." with 👍
00:29:57 Jacky Lawrence: Replying to "My impression is tha..." I thought that if there was a food distribution emergency the CEO of the local county council had some powers they could use??
00:36:49 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: When creating your local Asset Register of resources available in an emergency, I recommend that you keep track of any Amateur Radio operators in your community: they may well become key communications facilities for you when all else fails
00:38:08 Linda Aspey: Reacted to "When creating your l..." with 👍
00:38:21 Linda Aspey: "Lifehouse" is a good book about how communities in the US responded to Hurricane Sandy, and before that, how the Black Panther movement self organised to meet people's needs. It deals both with short term action, and with what author Adam Greenfield calls "The Long Emergency" which is what we probably face with climate/ eco events,.[ https://www.versobooks.com/en-gb/products/2536-lifehouse?srsltid=AfmBOoqcA\_MAI11T0vCC\_q6GXqxhUPVTvOXBvakxWquH18ybB\_lFnJ2E](https://www.versobooks.com/en-gb/products/2536-lifehouse?srsltid=AfmBOoqcA_MAI11T0vCC_q6GXqxhUPVTvOXBvakxWquH18ybB_lFnJ2E)
00:38:32 Jack Cooper: Reacted to "This is a good book ..." with 👍
00:38:37 Jack Cooper: Reacted to "When creating your l..." with 👍
00:47:42 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Replying to "My impression is tha..." I'm not sure - under the Civil Contingencies Act 2004 county councils are considered "Category 1 responders" to emergencies, and should make emergency plans, but it looks like only senior Government ministers can approve emergency regulations. But I'm not au fait with county council powers, and can't find the information easily online
00:48:18 Eamonn Dorling: Is there a list of skills that would be potentially helpful, and whether any skills require more than one in a group of 21?
00:48:54 Jacky Lawrence: Replying to "My impression is tha..." think it may only be about food standards - [Food law code of practice (England)](https://www.food.gov.uk/sites/default/files/media/document/Food%20Law%20Code%20of%20Practice%20\(England\)%20-%20Parliamentary%20laying%20copy%20-%20accessible%20version.pdf)
00:50:17 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Section 101 of the Local Government Act 1972 allows town and parish councils to help other councils with their responsibilities - so we may not have a duty, but we have a power to get into emergency planning. Preferably of course with the approval of the other council!
00:53:36 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: And we have the local knowledge, and should feel some responsibility to our local community's wellbeing regardless of what other bodies may or may not be doing - let's use our connections with other local authorities for some effective partnership working
00:58:09 Andrew Clegg. Martock, Somerset: I am a flood warden in Martock which flooded often and suddenly as it is the funnel from the river catchment to the Somerset levels. We have a sizeable team that has a lot to do when we get a sudden flood. An essential element in operation of our group is WhatsApp. It has not occurred to me how we would work without it. Any suggestions?
00:58:22 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Government has published a template at
00:59:25 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: London Resilience Toolkit:
01:00:32 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: To contact your local resilience forum for advice, plan templates etc. [Local resilience forums: contact details - GOV.UK](https://www.gov.uk/guidance/local-resilience-forums-contact-details)
01:07:08 Jonathan Wise: thank you\ 01:07:46 Alison Colban: Thank you, but sorry I have to go. Very informative.\ 01:08:10 Bonny Williams: I need to go too. Great session. Thank you.\ 01:10:04 Jonathan Wise: me too, thank you!\ 01:11:58 Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Let us go forward together!\ 01:12:23 Linda Aspey: Thank you for an excellent session - really useful, and informative.\ 01:12:26 Chris Noon: wonderful - really useful - many thanks\ 01:13:00 Jack Cooper:[ https://www.postcoderevolution.com/](https://www.postcoderevolution.com/) \ 01:13:56 Christine Allen: Very informative. Thank you. Can I have an invite to next week please?\ 01:14:30 lisa scott: thank you *** ### Speech-to-text (for AI search engine) 103\ 00:13:30.640 --> 00:13:40.150\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: So why don't you introduce yourself, Richard, and tell everybody how delighted you were to get someone to ask you to come and talk at no time. Notice at all. 104\ 00:13:40.810 --> 00:13:42.209\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: and we'll go from there. 105\ 00:13:42.390 --> 00:13:51.729\ Richard Hood: Hello, everyone! My name is Richard. I'm from communities prepared. Some of you recognise your faces already, and we've had conversations previously. 106\ 00:13:51.930 --> 00:14:14.770\ Richard Hood: Communities prepared is a national community preparing and resilience program. It's funded by the national lottery and the aim behind it is helped to help communities become more prepared and better resilient towards a range of different hazards that they may face. So we're not here to sort of 107\ 00:14:15.339 --> 00:14:19.029\ Richard Hood: Preach what you should do, or you shouldn't do 108\ 00:14:19.140 --> 00:14:25.739\ Richard Hood: we recognize that each community is unique and you will face challenges in your own unique ways. 109\ 00:14:25.870 --> 00:14:35.470\ Richard Hood: But we're here to help and support. You have better outcomes and engage with how you, how you can, as I say, have better outcomes. 110\ 00:14:35.670 --> 00:15:00.809\ Richard Hood: so that originally we started off, following the Somerset flooding and the Devon flooding in around 2,015 around that period. We started off, I think the end of 2016. So we're coming up, not this year, but next year to our 10th anniversary. And so we started off originally with flood volunteer training. 111\ 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:05.300\ Richard Hood: And that was very much focused in those geographic areas. 112\ 00:15:05.340 --> 00:15:31.559\ Richard Hood: From there. We've we've sort of expanded during Covid, and we were doing pandemic volunteer and how to deal with, and how volunteers and communities could get involved with that. And then we've continued to grow in the range of hazards and geographically around England. We cover the entirety, and then we also help and support into Wales and Scotland as well. 113\ 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:46.540\ Richard Hood: as I say, a range of different hazards, from flooding to heat waves to wildfire storms, and we also provide support around community emergency volunteer coordination. 114\ 00:15:46.570 --> 00:16:04.989\ Richard Hood: emergency planning, risk assessment and other skills around that as well. So that's that's a very brief whistle. Stop tour about what we do. But I think here today, I think what we're going to do, because it was pretty short notice. And I think we're talking almost 115\ 00:16:05.180 --> 00:16:08.102\ Richard Hood: almost less than 24 h now. 116\ 00:16:09.410 --> 00:16:20.980\ Richard Hood: So I also think it's better to not necessarily have a Powerpoint and do a set script. So I think what we're gonna do today is, do it as a conversation piece 117\ 00:16:21.100 --> 00:16:25.850\ Richard Hood: around the challenges. And what's going on in the Uk 118\ 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:33.589\ Richard Hood: currently, and also what other countries do as well, because in a lot of ways. The Uk is a bit of an outlier 119\ 00:16:33.740 --> 00:16:51.489\ Richard Hood: compared to other nations. Other nations, far more are community focused in their response and their resilience aspects. So I'm happy to talk about that as well, and then we can move into sort of like some some troubleshooting Q. And a. So 120\ 00:16:51.530 --> 00:17:10.239\ Richard Hood: where your pain is where your challenges are in your community, on what you want to achieve, on what might be some of the challenges you face, or some of the blockers that you're coming up against and seeing if we can navigate some of that as well. So that's the plan up to now. Is that okay, Graham? 121\ 00:17:10.550 --> 00:17:21.719\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: Absolutely. And my 1st question, which hopefully will start the ball rolling is to say, how much pushing do you have to do to persuade people they do need to make preparations. 122\ 00:17:23.040 --> 00:17:25.540\ Richard Hood: Depends who you mean by people. 123\ 00:17:25.700 --> 00:17:26.890\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: Well, councils, I guess. 124\ 00:17:26.890 --> 00:17:43.479\ Richard Hood: Councils. It varies, it varies. I think there are some councils, parish and town councils that are very proactive, and I think historically, they used to have emergency plans in place. 125\ 00:17:43.740 --> 00:17:55.949\ Richard Hood: I think what happened was during Covid. A lot of almost the emergency plans were put on the back burner and they moved to a response plan, and it was 126\ 00:17:56.390 --> 00:18:01.819\ Richard Hood: creating something in the moment to deal with something that hadn't been 127\ 00:18:02.170 --> 00:18:07.940\ Richard Hood: covered fully in the emergency planning beforehand. Then, since then. 128\ 00:18:08.300 --> 00:18:10.430\ Richard Hood: you there's been a lot of 129\ 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:17.730\ Richard Hood: churn and change, and also the people who were involved in that response a lot of fatigue as well. 130\ 00:18:18.470 --> 00:18:23.049\ Richard Hood: And so some places have taken that as a 131\ 00:18:23.760 --> 00:18:34.070\ Richard Hood: a chance to renew and revisit old work that they had, and the old emergency plans, and all thinking, and to revamp that and revise that and move forwards. 132\ 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:40.339\ Richard Hood: Others are coming in quite fresh to it, and recognizing that 133\ 00:18:41.070 --> 00:18:44.459\ Richard Hood: then they're possibly needing to reinvent the wheel. 134\ 00:18:44.840 --> 00:18:56.800\ Richard Hood: if that makes sense, because they did have emergency plans. But they are so old, so antiquated, and have been lost in the sort of the the change of 135\ 00:18:56.930 --> 00:18:59.440\ Richard Hood: people who've been involved in it as councillors. 136\ 00:19:00.560 --> 00:19:01.070\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: Right. 137\ 00:19:01.070 --> 00:19:13.160\ Richard Hood: On other approaches. We've got other parish and town councils where they're adamantly or vehemently against doing anything. 138\ 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:26.309\ Richard Hood: and they they strongly feel that they haven't got a role to play in this, there is no statutory obligation to do it. This is the role of your local authority, and this is the role of the emergency services. 139\ 00:19:26.500 --> 00:19:31.969\ Richard Hood: which is a viewpoint. The challenge is 140\ 00:19:32.650 --> 00:19:47.130\ Richard Hood: what what is currently happening in the Uk. As we've seen with such things as the ambulance crisis and the challenges around getting ambulances to even urban communities. 141\ 00:19:47.910 --> 00:19:56.779\ Richard Hood: And what I would say is, there have been lots of instances during storms where it has taken 142\ 00:19:57.050 --> 00:20:04.290\ Richard Hood: in excess of 72 h for the emergency services to be able to reach some remote communities. 143\ 00:20:05.100 --> 00:20:09.310\ Richard Hood: We we are. We've had the luxury in the Uk 144\ 00:20:09.430 --> 00:20:17.539\ Richard Hood: of having a very strong and resilience emergency service for for decades. 145\ 00:20:18.230 --> 00:20:19.929\ Richard Hood: We haven't had 146\ 00:20:20.110 --> 00:20:34.209\ Richard Hood: huge amounts of emergencies within local areas. What they've often been is a train crash or a plane crash, or something a spectacular accident or incident in that way. 147\ 00:20:34.870 --> 00:20:50.370\ Richard Hood: But what we've been getting since 2,000, I would say, is an increasing challenge around flooding. And it's been the floods which are the the driver behind a lot of the emergency recognition within locales 148\ 00:20:50.670 --> 00:20:52.020\ Richard Hood: that said 149\ 00:20:52.580 --> 00:21:03.840\ Richard Hood: we had wildfires. The biggest ones, or the biggest start to them, were again in around 2,015, and that was the fires above Manchester in the moorlands. 150\ 00:21:04.090 --> 00:21:10.860\ Richard Hood: and we started to worry then and ask the question because it was getting quite close to the urban area. 151\ 00:21:11.490 --> 00:21:13.840\ Richard Hood: But then everybody forgot about it 152\ 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:21.570\ Richard Hood: until you saw smoke on the horizon around London, and they got the helicopters up, and all of a sudden 153\ 00:21:21.710 --> 00:21:23.429\ Richard Hood: there was a lot more interest. 154\ 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:29.719\ Richard Hood: So I would say we're about 15 to 20 years behind flooding with wildfires. 155\ 00:21:30.100 --> 00:21:44.140\ Richard Hood: But there is a big recognition now, certainly around the rural urban interface with the significant risk of wildfires that exist and is growing this year. They're expecting there's a 156\ 00:21:44.330 --> 00:21:52.520\ Richard Hood: the met office. Long term weather forecast is expecting to be twice the chance of a heat wave than an average year. 157\ 00:21:52.840 --> 00:21:57.330\ Richard Hood: So we're expecting a very hot summer, a very dry summer. 158\ 00:21:57.600 --> 00:22:05.489\ Richard Hood: a very wildfire, high risk summer as well. I've sort of gone off on a tangent there. Sorry. 159\ 00:22:06.800 --> 00:22:08.333\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: Well, I think there is. 160\ 00:22:08.790 --> 00:22:25.799\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: a degree of complacency here that we're all very used to having the Internet available, your Wi-fi available, your phones available, your food stores available, and then all panic lets loose, when suddenly you discover they're not there. 161\ 00:22:25.800 --> 00:22:40.060\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: and I would have thought that was quite a potent message to get to people that you can actually plan for going, for, say, I know 3 or 4 days without food supplies and without water, without electricity, without it becoming an absolute disaster. 162\ 00:22:40.130 --> 00:22:46.290\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: But those very simple steps seem to be very hard for people to convince themselves to actually take. 163\ 00:22:46.590 --> 00:22:54.469\ Richard Hood: I think that again comes from the fact that the Uk is being quite privileged. I was going to say, I know people are typing in the chat. 164\ 00:22:54.690 --> 00:23:06.770\ Richard Hood: If somebody wants to read those, if there's any for me with that comes through because I'm dyslexic. So when I struggle to monitor that, and to sort of manage the conversation. 165\ 00:23:06.950 --> 00:23:10.439\ Richard Hood: But there is a we. The Uk. Has been quite privileged. 166\ 00:23:10.930 --> 00:23:21.200\ Richard Hood: but even so recently America has moved to a mindset where it says, you need to be able to support, provide, and support yourself 167\ 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:25.470\ Richard Hood: for up to 72 h without any external aid. 168\ 00:23:26.190 --> 00:23:35.390\ Richard Hood: Australia has recently moved to from 3 days to 7 days, but it advises 14 days. 169\ 00:23:36.280 --> 00:23:36.800\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: Woo. 170\ 00:23:36.800 --> 00:23:42.939\ Richard Hood: You need, as individuals and communities to be able to help and support yourself. 171\ 00:23:43.070 --> 00:23:56.150\ Richard Hood: If you look around Europe as well. Those conversations are being had. So Finland, Norway, Sweden, are all having very frank conversations that are saying. 172\ 00:23:56.270 --> 00:23:57.829\ Richard Hood: if there's no power. 173\ 00:23:58.190 --> 00:24:07.100\ Richard Hood: how are you going to be able to go to the shops. How are you going to be able to buy food? How are you going to be able to cook it? How are you going to be able to store it. 174\ 00:24:07.330 --> 00:24:09.759\ Richard Hood: And it's having those frank conversations. 175\ 00:24:10.280 --> 00:24:17.080\ Richard Hood: The problem is in the Uk. The Uk governments seem to, regardless of their color. 176\ 00:24:17.620 --> 00:24:31.980\ Richard Hood: be unable or unwilling to have that frank conversation with the population, and I can say that, having had conversations at a national level around that the fear is 177\ 00:24:32.770 --> 00:24:39.509\ Richard Hood: the political damage that having a frank conversation with the electorate would have. 178\ 00:24:39.990 --> 00:24:44.059\ Richard Hood: So they're leaving it to organizations such as ourselves and others. 179\ 00:24:44.610 --> 00:24:52.940\ Richard Hood: And they're sort of we're having to sort of go out and almost be seen as scaremongering. 180\ 00:24:53.620 --> 00:24:59.859\ Richard Hood: But we aren't scaremongering. We're having the conversations that have been had in other countries. 181\ 00:25:01.470 --> 00:25:19.750\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: I find it amazing that the vast majority of people seem to be very happy if there's a leader that comes up and tells them what is going on rather than being terrified of telling them what's going on in case they get scared. I mean, we're all worried about what's going to happen, regardless of what the Government is saying. 182\ 00:25:19.950 --> 00:25:37.039\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: So it does seem to me that the onus is really upon each community to make arrangements to take care of itself, because it you never know, as you say, until your local, which floods are going to affect you, in which direction, or the wildfires, or the loss of power. 183\ 00:25:37.190 --> 00:25:48.369\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: But it does seem to make an awful lot of sense. And I hope that people will be looking at your website to take home some fundamental ideas of what they can be doing in their local community. 184\ 00:25:49.150 --> 00:26:16.150\ Richard Hood: And thank you. I was going to say, if you want to come to the website, there's lots of information that's available. If you become a member and membership is free of charge. It's just a method of justifying our funding from the national lottery. So we can say we've got so many members. Our membership has gone up. This is helping to justify our funding, but you can also sign up, and I would strongly recommend doing the zoom 185\ 00:26:16.150 --> 00:26:29.839\ Richard Hood: training sessions that we offer, and they are on, as I say, a multitude of different topics, and you know, by all means reach out to us. We can add more topics. We are a small team. 186\ 00:26:30.290 --> 00:26:43.000\ Richard Hood: So so there is a bit of a time lag with things. But we're launching the power outage, which is, we used to have a utility failure, module which covered everything. 187\ 00:26:43.140 --> 00:26:45.680\ Richard Hood: What we've now done is broken that out. 188\ 00:26:45.940 --> 00:26:49.310\ eluned Lewi-Nichol: So we're creating a sweep of a suite of modules. 189\ 00:26:49.500 --> 00:26:53.859\ Richard Hood: The power outage is going to be piloted tomorrow night. 190\ 00:26:54.170 --> 00:27:02.470\ Richard Hood: We've got a water and sewage outage. That will be the next one to follow on. Then we're looking at a Comms failure 191\ 00:27:02.700 --> 00:27:14.720\ Richard Hood: and focusing specifically on communication failure. And we're also developing another module which will be one that talks about a sort of a 192\ 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:25.669\ Richard Hood: a poly emergency. So it's when you have multiple emergencies and they're intertwined. So, for example, if you have power, outage 193\ 00:27:26.190 --> 00:27:29.290\ Richard Hood: and water outage and Comms outage. 194\ 00:27:29.690 --> 00:27:45.800\ Richard Hood: And you're getting those combinations that are going on. But if we talk about the concept of it as that polyemergency where you've got the multiple emergencies taking place. That could be a whole series of different things. 195\ 00:27:47.580 --> 00:27:48.640\ Richard Hood: But yes. 196\ 00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:51.689\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: Yeah, sorry. Just keeping an eye on the comments for you, and. 197\ 00:27:51.690 --> 00:27:52.190\ Richard Hood: Oh, thank you! 198\ 00:27:52.190 --> 00:28:02.679\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: Has got a comment that Kinra had a problem during the last storm trees down, no electric, no mobile phone. So, Christine, could you expand a little on that for us. 199\ 00:28:04.090 --> 00:28:08.090\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: because you know how ready was your community for that sort of outage. 200\ 00:28:08.510 --> 00:28:30.410\ Christine Allen: Sorry. I just need to unmute myself. Yeah. When the storm I think it was storm, Dara, that caused all the problems. Kimber, I don't know if people know Kimva, but it's got an edge and is quite a wooded area. Kimber itself is in a basin and 201\ 00:28:31.636 --> 00:28:33.349\ Christine Allen: we couldn't. 202\ 00:28:33.810 --> 00:28:59.629\ Christine Allen: Well, somebody did get through to district, but there wasn't anybody actually in charge. That was anything to do with the strategic plan, and had no idea what to do, and it was just absolute chaos. As I say in my note, the phones were down, the electric was down. We've got a caravan park 203\ 00:29:00.140 --> 00:29:03.040\ Christine Allen: right in the centre of Kimber. 204\ 00:29:03.180 --> 00:29:28.040\ Christine Allen: and there were some people in the caravans that rely on equipment, breathing equipment and stuff. So we were really worried about them, but of course we didn't know who else there wasn't in the community that would need help. And how do we get power to them? Who's got a generator and things like that. 205\ 00:29:28.110 --> 00:29:41.430\ Christine Allen: And because the phones were down and nobody could talk to anybody else, as we normally would do through mobile phones, phone them up and sort it out. So there were a few people. 206\ 00:29:41.510 --> 00:29:46.279\ Christine Allen: a few of the councillors, actually, that got together and sort of did a run around to 207\ 00:29:46.870 --> 00:29:53.919\ Christine Allen: to do what they could, especially for the one that they knew had got essential equipment in their caravan to keep them alive. 208\ 00:29:54.200 --> 00:30:19.920\ Christine Allen: And it was a problem that that was really raised and has raised its head now at district. And of course, bt, as they're doing at the moment, are getting rid of all the telephone boxes, and we've got one in the centre of the village which they were wanting to get rid of, and particularly because of that event. It showed that 209\ 00:30:20.290 --> 00:30:47.769\ Christine Allen: we need the the telephone box still. Because the Bt lines were still up and running. And the only way you could phone anybody was by going to the Bt. Box, and it was used a few times, actually, during those 2 days. So it showed that it was essential. And thankfully. They've decided to keep our British telephone box in the village. 210\ 00:30:48.430 --> 00:30:48.950\ Richard Hood: Well. 211\ 00:30:50.660 --> 00:30:56.620\ Christine Allen: It's just a difficult time, and it really showed how 212\ 00:30:56.760 --> 00:31:09.209\ Christine Allen: delicate things are. And if things aren't in place, I mean 12 years ago, when I joined the Parish Council, one of my 1st questions was, Have we got a strategic plan? 213\ 00:31:09.470 --> 00:31:14.620\ Christine Allen: And the answer was, Oh, District, deal with that. You don't need to worry about it. 214\ 00:31:15.800 --> 00:31:20.649\ Richard Hood: What I was going to say is just touching on the on the phone situation. To start with 215\ 00:31:20.800 --> 00:31:24.649\ Richard Hood: currently all the old copper lines 216\ 00:31:24.860 --> 00:31:28.370\ Richard Hood: the landlines are being replaced by fiber. Optic. 217\ 00:31:28.370 --> 00:31:29.890\ Christine Allen: Yeah, being ripped out. 218\ 00:31:29.890 --> 00:31:34.950\ Richard Hood: Yeah, so every phone line has will need power in order. 219\ 00:31:36.030 --> 00:31:36.570\ Christine Allen: So. 220\ 00:31:36.570 --> 00:31:40.110\ Richard Hood: When we lose power we lose Comms. There is 221\ 00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:55.259\ Richard Hood: a requirement that your phone providers should be able to provide a battery backup system. If there is an essential need for communication during a power outage. 222\ 00:31:55.530 --> 00:31:57.519\ Richard Hood: But what they're relying on 223\ 00:31:57.630 --> 00:32:06.199\ Richard Hood: is that everybody has a mobile phone and they're relying on the mobile phone networks having a battery that lasts 224\ 00:32:06.390 --> 00:32:15.620\ Richard Hood: for a decent length of time and that the mobile phone network doesn't fall over. 225\ 00:32:16.229 --> 00:32:41.640\ Richard Hood: I think we're all more realistic on this call than that optimism. But, as I say, there are opportunities you can. You can request a resilient phone is what it's called and what it has is a battery backup, and that is for people who, as I say, who need need a communication for some reason, whether that's medical or so on. 226\ 00:32:41.740 --> 00:32:48.639\ Richard Hood: And also where mobile phone signal is not reliable. 227\ 00:32:49.470 --> 00:33:08.950\ Richard Hood: So that's something to consider other things. You know, you mentioned around that you sort of having that hybrid or that multiple emergency when you had the storm hit, you've got damage from the storm. You've got loss of power, loss of comms, and so on. 228\ 00:33:09.070 --> 00:33:14.389\ Richard Hood: What I would say to you is one thing that is really, really useful to create 229\ 00:33:14.610 --> 00:33:18.649\ Richard Hood: it. Well, there's several things here. One is a hub and spoke 230\ 00:33:18.830 --> 00:33:35.949\ Richard Hood: structure within your community. So within the Parish Council you look at the central hub, or the resilience hub, or the emergency response hub for your community. But then look to have spoke spokes within the wider community itself. 231\ 00:33:36.120 --> 00:33:42.980\ Richard Hood: and they are your groups. They are local key 232\ 00:33:43.510 --> 00:33:57.579\ Richard Hood: locations. Whether that is a local pub that might be an outlier in further out in the community, and so on. Those those hubs are really essential for getting the comms around out there and the messaging out there. 233\ 00:33:58.100 --> 00:34:17.429\ Richard Hood: Other things to be aware of is to create a local asset register. So a register of both people and equipment and potentially locations that are willing and happy to be supportive during an emergency. 234\ 00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:22.400\ Richard Hood: There is what we would look at is there's 3 tiers of volunteers. 235\ 00:34:23.300 --> 00:34:38.120\ Richard Hood: There is your. There's the traditional volunteer who is trained and is a member of an organization and is a known quantity and has had training and is part of a coordinated play pre-planned response. 236\ 00:34:38.989 --> 00:34:48.950\ Richard Hood: On the other side of that you've got your spontaneous volunteers that come out of the woodwork at a moment's notice. Something's happening. Crisis is happening. What do you need done? 237\ 00:34:49.380 --> 00:34:55.519\ Richard Hood: They're really useful. But the problem is, the challenge is about them being an unknown quantity. 238\ 00:34:55.800 --> 00:35:08.340\ Richard Hood: And so they you don't know what training they've had. You don't know what they can do. You don't know what you should be asking them to do, because if you ask somebody to do something you take on the liability for that. 239\ 00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:12.150\ Richard Hood: So what we've suggested is, there's a 3rd group. 240\ 00:35:12.620 --> 00:35:27.700\ Richard Hood: and this 3rd group is your retained volunteers. They're people who are skill rich and might be resource, rich and capacity rich, but are often time poor. 241\ 00:35:27.860 --> 00:35:38.640\ Richard Hood: They don't want to be part of an organization where they are endlessly turning up to meetings or being asked, you know, to comment on a weekly or monthly basis. 242\ 00:35:38.950 --> 00:35:54.449\ Richard Hood: But they are members of a community that might be your doctors, your nurses, your tree surgeons, your plant and machinery operators, these people, your tree surgeons, as I say as well, that are key members and have key skills. 243\ 00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:06.789\ Richard Hood: And you can call upon and access in an emergency for a specific task. And you see them as the expert in that process. 244\ 00:36:07.050 --> 00:36:11.930\ Richard Hood: So you're effectively commissioning their professionalism 245\ 00:36:12.210 --> 00:36:17.740\ Richard Hood: during the emergency, and they are making a judgment call what they do 246\ 00:36:18.030 --> 00:36:22.960\ Richard Hood: if they can respond to it, or if they can't, so it's falling on them 247\ 00:36:23.550 --> 00:36:25.450\ Richard Hood: to say no or yes. 248\ 00:36:26.260 --> 00:36:44.599\ Richard Hood: rather than you tasking them to go and chainsaw a tree. You're saying there's some trees down over here. These are the people who are tree surgeons. Send them a message and go. There's trees down over here. Can you organize? Is there any chance you can organize. Can you have a look at them? 249\ 00:36:45.220 --> 00:36:49.410\ Richard Hood: It's their choice, then what they do about that. 250\ 00:36:50.100 --> 00:37:19.529\ Christine Allen: I must say we do. We do have a really good community, not only just in the the few houses around here where I live, which is slightly out of Kimber village. But during that storm we had a tree come down just around the corner from me, and somebody called it into district and A word went out on the Whatsapp group. 251\ 00:37:19.580 --> 00:37:28.729\ Christine Allen: and within 20 min the tree had been dismantled. It had cleared the road. The bus could carry on going round the road, and. 252\ 00:37:28.730 --> 00:37:32.159\ Richard Hood: And somebody's over the moon with a car full of logs. 253\ 00:37:32.160 --> 00:37:36.228\ Christine Allen: Yes, yes, some of them are in my garden. 254\ 00:37:36.680 --> 00:37:38.380\ Richard Hood: You were the culprit. 255\ 00:37:39.270 --> 00:37:51.710\ Richard Hood: So so we could see with that one incident that so many things that we can learn and how we can use. The other part is the importance of the human human community knowledge. 256\ 00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:59.199\ Richard Hood: We talk about having a vulnerable register, and different local authorities will say different things. 257\ 00:37:59.630 --> 00:38:14.070\ Richard Hood: Some local authorities want you to give them their information and feed all this, you know, vulnerable, resident and vulnerable location. Information in others will be, don't do it. Don't keep it. We don't want to know anything. 258\ 00:38:14.070 --> 00:38:18.989\ Christine Allen: Well, we were told by district we can't have one. We're not allowed to hold one. 259\ 00:38:19.300 --> 00:38:25.940\ Christine Allen: you know, with Gpt. Gdpr rubbish, you know we're not allowed to have people's details. 260\ 00:38:25.940 --> 00:38:31.300\ Richard Hood: Kind of they agree to it. Gdpr is a method to keep people's data safe 261\ 00:38:31.410 --> 00:38:53.209\ Richard Hood: and to allow you to share it. It's not there as a mechanism to prevent it. So you would need to let people know what the data is you're going to be storing. Why, you're going to store it, and how you're going to do it and keep it protected. And that's ring fenced. And people have the choice whether that data is passed to you or not. 262\ 00:38:53.750 --> 00:39:01.999\ Richard Hood: That's that's that part. But the other part is, if you believe somebody is in potential harm. 263\ 00:39:02.580 --> 00:39:11.960\ Richard Hood: Gdpr specifically says you can share that if you have a belief that that person needs help, you can share it. 264\ 00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:18.499\ Richard Hood: And so so it's as simple as that. But what I would say to you is 265\ 00:39:18.720 --> 00:39:24.420\ Richard Hood: actually keeping records and databases it. 266\ 00:39:25.260 --> 00:39:32.889\ Richard Hood: It isn't a living entity, it isn't. It's it's something that's almost out of date. As soon as it's created. 267\ 00:39:33.300 --> 00:39:48.419\ Richard Hood: So actually, it's the community network and the community not shared living knowledge that exists. That is essential. And then that needs to be pooled and acted upon 268\ 00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:50.640\ Richard Hood: at the time of need. 269\ 00:39:51.090 --> 00:40:06.030\ Richard Hood: because we're going to get people who, you know, vulnerable people. That age is one thing. So we're looking at people over 65. And we're looking at the age. Well, they aren't going to get any younger. So they're going to stay in that list 270\ 00:40:06.380 --> 00:40:07.969\ Richard Hood: for a period of time. 271\ 00:40:08.870 --> 00:40:17.210\ Richard Hood: But you have transient vulnerabilities as well. So people recovering from surgery, people who are pregnant 272\ 00:40:17.340 --> 00:40:21.950\ Richard Hood: people with young children, people who are just moving into the area 273\ 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:24.789\ Richard Hood: and don't know what's going on. 274\ 00:40:25.070 --> 00:40:30.940\ Richard Hood: People who might be who who are on welfare support because they've lost their job. 275\ 00:40:31.130 --> 00:40:39.180\ Richard Hood: Hopefully, they're going to get another one. But there's lots of data there, or information that is going to change 276\ 00:40:39.410 --> 00:40:41.140\ Richard Hood: very, very rapidly. 277\ 00:40:42.020 --> 00:40:47.830\ Richard Hood: and there's no with the best will in the in the world. We can't keep on top of that. 278\ 00:40:48.140 --> 00:40:53.470\ Richard Hood: And so the best way is to have a network that is able to be. 279\ 00:40:53.950 --> 00:41:01.030\ Richard Hood: draw that, pull that information together at a moment's notice and to identify who is struggling 280\ 00:41:01.140 --> 00:41:13.179\ Richard Hood: on what is their need. So you're looking at doing door knocks and welfare checks and needs assessments and then, pooling that information rapidly, Graham, you've got your hands up. 281\ 00:41:15.890 --> 00:41:17.239\ Richard Hood: You're on mute. 282\ 00:41:19.030 --> 00:41:40.070\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: I just wanted to point out, 1st of all, that people are making contributions in the chat. And there's 1 just come in from Linda that suggests there's a wonderful book about how us communities responded to Hurricane Sandy, and all the sorts of lessons that we could learn from there. So I just point that to people. By the way, for those of you who are not familiar with these sessions. 283\ 00:41:40.070 --> 00:41:50.250\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: we do record everything and then make it available to everyone afterwards. So everything that's in the chat. All the comments that were being made would all be available to everyone after this, if they needed 284\ 00:41:50.330 --> 00:41:56.870\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: the second thing, Gary was to give you a segue into your No. 21 project. 285\ 00:41:57.130 --> 00:41:59.700\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: and thought perhaps you could talk to us about that. Please. 286\ 00:41:59.890 --> 00:42:12.050\ Richard Hood: Yeah. So if I go with the 1st 1 first, st I think some of the really good knowledge to take away from America is the Cert teams, the community emergency response teams. Now. 287\ 00:42:12.200 --> 00:42:21.380\ Richard Hood: a couple of local authorities or Lrfs within the Uk have jumped on that bandwagon and have taken the name cert 288\ 00:42:21.560 --> 00:42:30.209\ Richard Hood: and have applied it to volunteers within their community. And that's not really the case. They aren't really cert teams. 289\ 00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:32.270\ Richard Hood: Cert teams in America 290\ 00:42:32.410 --> 00:43:00.220\ Richard Hood: are community groups that have been trained and are prepared to quite a high standard, including urban search and rescue. But they've been trained by sending a community member to Fema, who has then been trained, comes back and comes train the trainer into that community, and they are registered, and they are expected to act at a certain way, but that's something that may come into the Uk at that level. 291\ 00:43:00.410 --> 00:43:04.889\ Richard Hood: The other one is what's happening in New Zealand and 292\ 00:43:05.090 --> 00:43:13.179\ Richard Hood: Australia, and that's very much more the the collective ad hoc of a community that comes together 293\ 00:43:13.470 --> 00:43:20.719\ Richard Hood: and it's recognizing. And and they put things up as simply a need, a need and an offer board. 294\ 00:43:20.940 --> 00:43:34.489\ Richard Hood: and it's it's simply a whiteboard, and people just stick on what they need. And somebody else writes what they can offer, and we try to match those up that can be a massive, massive help, and and so on. 295\ 00:43:34.650 --> 00:43:57.750\ Richard Hood: So segueing away into the No. 21. This isn't an official sort of program at the moment. But it's something that I'm working on. It's the concept of knowing 21 people within your ability to reach them. So what I mean by that is walking distance. So if you know 21 people that you can get to 296\ 00:43:58.310 --> 00:44:04.150\ Richard Hood: if you've got no power, no Comms and no anything. You know the situation is is dire. 297\ 00:44:04.380 --> 00:44:06.549\ Richard Hood: If you can reach 21 people 298\ 00:44:06.810 --> 00:44:15.309\ Richard Hood: and they can reach 21 people within 3 links. Typically, you've found somebody who is a trauma doctor 299\ 00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:18.279\ Richard Hood: and 2 people who were a nurse 300\ 00:44:18.470 --> 00:44:23.860\ Richard Hood: within your network. And you've got a lot of other skills within that network. 301\ 00:44:24.020 --> 00:44:27.169\ Richard Hood: But if you can imagine that within your community 302\ 00:44:27.290 --> 00:44:31.299\ Richard Hood: that you are pushing, you know you're you're you're effectively 303\ 00:44:31.700 --> 00:44:41.900\ Richard Hood: taking the virtual social media and turning it back on its head back to what it used to be, which was knowing your neighbors. 304\ 00:44:42.340 --> 00:44:45.129\ Richard Hood: and by knowing the people around you 305\ 00:44:45.240 --> 00:44:52.799\ Richard Hood: what their skills are and what their vulnerabilities are because everybody has a vulnerability. 306\ 00:44:52.910 --> 00:45:19.890\ Richard Hood: It might have been, you know, Jack, I'm going to pick on you for a moment, but you're looking, you know as if you haven't got many vulnerabilities. But everybody does. It could have been. Jack went out on a Friday night. It's Saturday morning, and there's a flood, and he had a bit too many on Friday night, and isn't 100% with it. And so it could be as something as transient as that. 307\ 00:45:20.160 --> 00:45:25.169\ Richard Hood: But it's about knowing people and knowing them as individuals. 308\ 00:45:25.410 --> 00:45:28.040\ Richard Hood: and knowing what their strengths and weaknesses are. 309\ 00:45:28.700 --> 00:45:36.000\ Richard Hood: and how we then, as that 21 person group knows 21 more people. 310\ 00:45:36.580 --> 00:45:38.909\ Richard Hood: and we can reach out within that 311\ 00:45:39.010 --> 00:45:40.980\ Richard Hood: to help and support each other. 312\ 00:45:41.570 --> 00:45:46.110\ Richard Hood: And ultimately, you know, we're we're looking at 313\ 00:45:46.270 --> 00:45:56.590\ Richard Hood: what happens, how? What is the lowest form of, or the the lowest level of coordination that can happen? 314\ 00:45:56.750 --> 00:46:00.579\ Richard Hood: And so you're really looking at street level or hamlet level. 315\ 00:46:01.100 --> 00:46:04.479\ Richard Hood: then into your parish and tank councils. 316\ 00:46:04.670 --> 00:46:09.960\ Richard Hood: And those are the blocks that actually, where people live. 317\ 00:46:10.830 --> 00:46:28.520\ Richard Hood: So we're looking at. Think about all the people that exist and provide those services in a wider community. You're looking at members of the police members of the Fire and Rescue Service ambulance service, your local doctor, your local Gp. They live in your community. 318\ 00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:47.329\ Richard Hood: Think of them as 2 levels. Think of them as, yes, they've got those professional skills. But they're a member of your community as well. And that's where, if both systems, those wider systems start to struggle and aren't able to continue for whatever reason 319\ 00:46:48.390 --> 00:46:57.469\ Richard Hood: you can bring those community members and have a system or a mechanism in place that will allow those people with those skill sets 320\ 00:46:58.140 --> 00:47:02.119\ Richard Hood: to be activated and utilized in an emergency. 321\ 00:47:03.890 --> 00:47:11.210\ Richard Hood: So that's where the No. 21 it comes from. It's basically knowing 21 people that you can get to 322\ 00:47:11.410 --> 00:47:16.419\ Richard Hood: and gas for help or offer help and support, too, and then scaling that up. 323\ 00:47:16.990 --> 00:47:17.740\ Richard Hood: Okay. 324\ 00:47:18.780 --> 00:47:26.390\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: I think the other thing that we discussed yesterday was assuming that there is a complete Comms breakdown. Then 325\ 00:47:26.810 --> 00:47:45.840\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: how are people going to get together. And where are they going to get together? You need an agreed space beforehand, so that everyone knows that within 6 h of an emergency taking place. Then the Village hall has become manned, and is a focal point for information and and help, or whatever. 326\ 00:47:46.650 --> 00:47:59.500\ Richard Hood: Yes, I would just sort of answer one question. Yes, under the civil Contingencies Act. The Parish and town councils do not have a duty at the present. 327\ 00:48:00.170 --> 00:48:04.180\ Richard Hood: and that is the situation. So I do want to make that clear. However. 328\ 00:48:05.570 --> 00:48:17.409\ Richard Hood: if we have some of the challenges and the sort of multiple, complex challenges. Over wide, vast, swept swathes of the Uk. 329\ 00:48:18.470 --> 00:48:25.519\ Richard Hood: You, you will become essential in ensuring that your community has some cohesion. 330\ 00:48:26.870 --> 00:48:30.770\ Richard Hood: because we're already looking at the emergency services 331\ 00:48:31.060 --> 00:48:37.400\ Richard Hood: are looking to prove to do the most good for the most people, so 332\ 00:48:37.550 --> 00:48:41.480\ Richard Hood: that will be closer to their bases. 333\ 00:48:42.060 --> 00:48:47.259\ Richard Hood: and it'll be closer to the hospital. It'll be so. They don't need to travel far. 334\ 00:48:47.570 --> 00:48:52.270\ Richard Hood: and it'll be those larger urban areas where there is a lot more population. 335\ 00:48:52.570 --> 00:48:55.459\ Richard Hood: And that's where they will start their focus from. 336\ 00:48:56.120 --> 00:48:59.630\ Richard Hood: So we need to consider how 337\ 00:48:59.940 --> 00:49:07.180\ Richard Hood: we can, we can operate in the absence of potentially external support for a period of time 338\ 00:49:07.830 --> 00:49:13.110\ Richard Hood: going on to your your your question. So the idea is that. 339\ 00:49:13.340 --> 00:49:22.190\ Richard Hood: imagine your Comms failed within your community. Imagine your power was out, and and that sort of scenario, when you're doing your planning 340\ 00:49:22.490 --> 00:49:25.100\ Richard Hood: plan to have fail safes in place. 341\ 00:49:25.450 --> 00:49:35.419\ Richard Hood: So you fail in a safe mechanism. So if you, in the absence of a phone call or a Whatsapp message, or a knock on the door. 342\ 00:49:35.700 --> 00:49:38.519\ Richard Hood: Where will there be a meeting point? 343\ 00:49:38.750 --> 00:49:50.940\ Richard Hood: And again, if you come back to that spoken hub sort of approach. You end up with a community. It's like where I live. I live in a hamlet where there's there's 8 houses. 344\ 00:49:51.310 --> 00:50:02.919\ Richard Hood: Well, what would happen is, it would probably be me that goes, knocks on the doors, checks on people, sees what's going on, and I become that node for the hamlet. 345\ 00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:16.049\ Richard Hood: and if then I knew where to go, I would then go to the Parish and Parish Council Meeting Point, and so then I could feed that information in that I've gathered 346\ 00:50:16.930 --> 00:50:20.800\ Richard Hood: into the Potion Town Council, and then 347\ 00:50:20.980 --> 00:50:23.410\ Richard Hood: can get help and support from that. 348\ 00:50:23.650 --> 00:50:30.429\ Richard Hood: But I would certainly say, remember your community. You're there to serve and support the community. 349\ 00:50:31.310 --> 00:50:34.150\ Richard Hood: Try not to do everything yourselves. 350\ 00:50:35.050 --> 00:50:45.480\ Richard Hood: Try to recognize the skill and the empowerment within your community. Already within the parish or the town, and 351\ 00:50:46.150 --> 00:50:49.820\ Richard Hood: you want to help and support your local groups. 352\ 00:50:50.370 --> 00:50:55.610\ Richard Hood: be drawn in and consider what they can do during an emergency. 353\ 00:50:56.740 --> 00:51:04.809\ Richard Hood: And think of it in that way. Whether that is a designated community Emergency Volunteer Group or a Resilience group. 354\ 00:51:05.070 --> 00:51:13.479\ Richard Hood: or whether it's something like the Local Women's Institute, or the Bowls Club, or whatever it is 355\ 00:51:13.590 --> 00:51:17.550\ Richard Hood: it might be the Young Farms Association with within the parish. 356\ 00:51:18.150 --> 00:51:21.779\ Richard Hood: What can they do and challenge them to say. 357\ 00:51:22.160 --> 00:51:24.600\ Richard Hood: you know, if something goes wrong. 358\ 00:51:25.010 --> 00:51:26.910\ Richard Hood: what could you do to help? 359\ 00:51:27.710 --> 00:51:36.970\ Richard Hood: What plans could you put in place as a group of people with skills, with resource 360\ 00:51:38.080 --> 00:51:43.749\ Richard Hood: that could come and help, and then you, as a parish council, look towards the coordination 361\ 00:51:44.310 --> 00:51:46.879\ Richard Hood: of those assets within your community. 362\ 00:51:48.420 --> 00:52:02.620\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: Yeah, that's that's really good. There's a pertinent question in the chat, Richard, from Eamon that says, Is there a list of skills that would be potentially helpful, and whether any skills require more than one in a group of 21. 363\ 00:52:04.713 --> 00:52:09.409\ Richard Hood: What I would say to you is, don't, when it comes to the note 21. 364\ 00:52:09.620 --> 00:52:26.969\ Richard Hood: Don't think about trying to find a doctor, a tree surgeon, or something like that. The whole point is is to just interconnect with 21 people and find out what skills they have and what support needs they might also have as well. 365\ 00:52:27.140 --> 00:52:31.359\ Richard Hood: The idea is that 21 people then go out and know 366\ 00:52:31.790 --> 00:52:37.080\ Richard Hood: 21 people more. And so it's about those connections. 367\ 00:52:37.560 --> 00:52:44.990\ Richard Hood: maybe into 2, 2 to 3 levels that get you the tree surgeon rather than 368\ 00:52:45.130 --> 00:52:48.180\ Richard Hood: knowing a tree surgeon within the 21 people 369\ 00:52:48.380 --> 00:52:53.540\ Richard Hood: when it comes to the your local asset register again. 370\ 00:52:53.700 --> 00:53:03.440\ Richard Hood: It isn't. It isn't about determining a list of skills and resources you want within your community. 371\ 00:53:03.980 --> 00:53:09.530\ Richard Hood: It's recognizing what already exists, and it's mapping that. 372\ 00:53:09.790 --> 00:53:12.110\ Richard Hood: and then you might end up with. 373\ 00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:17.529\ Richard Hood: you know it's a rural. It might be a rural one. You might have 10 Tree Surgeons. 374\ 00:53:17.670 --> 00:53:31.559\ Richard Hood: or you might live in a an urban area. And you've got 15 project managers, you know it. It's whatever is in your community. And then, recognizing that. 375\ 00:53:31.700 --> 00:53:34.210\ Richard Hood: And so then, as a community. 376\ 00:53:34.330 --> 00:53:38.609\ Richard Hood: you have your strengths, you have your abilities that you can do. 377\ 00:53:38.780 --> 00:53:41.639\ Richard Hood: and then you have neighbouring communities. 378\ 00:53:42.890 --> 00:53:51.330\ Richard Hood: So what we want to do is to have you within your your local hub and spoke methodology. 379\ 00:53:51.680 --> 00:53:53.010\ Richard Hood: Well, then. 380\ 00:53:53.430 --> 00:54:04.969\ Richard Hood: you're connected to other parishes, and you're connected to the local authority. And so you end up with this interconnected network that is able to self heal 381\ 00:54:05.200 --> 00:54:09.320\ Richard Hood: during an emergency that can help and support each other. 382\ 00:54:11.630 --> 00:54:19.339\ Richard Hood: So if you haven't got those skills in your community, another community may well have. 383\ 00:54:20.430 --> 00:54:28.360\ Richard Hood: So you end up with this constant offer and need at a street level 384\ 00:54:28.790 --> 00:54:40.729\ Richard Hood: at a parish level, at your district level and interdependency. So you end up with this network of communication going on. And it's that 385\ 00:54:41.240 --> 00:54:50.600\ Richard Hood: that becomes the panacea to the problem. It becomes the solution because you're actually talking and have a method 386\ 00:54:51.010 --> 00:54:55.640\ Richard Hood: of saying what you need to others, and then they can help and support you. 387\ 00:54:58.490 --> 00:55:23.889\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: Great. I've got a piece of information for people which they may not be aware of, which is that within the army side of the cadet force at your local schools. There is a signals branch, and they will have a or they may well have a radio system that is capable of talking to all the schools across the country. So you do have yet another means of communication available. Should 388\ 00:55:24.060 --> 00:55:33.810\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: all sorts of, like the mobile phone system go down and provided you've got some batteries around that can keep the radio systems going. Then you've got a means of communicating with the world. 389\ 00:55:34.511 --> 00:55:38.889\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: And I just mentioned that in passing, in case people hadn't thought of the radio. 390\ 00:55:39.330 --> 00:55:44.660\ Richard Hood: Worst case you could always rig up a dynamo from the hamsters in the science lab. 391\ 00:55:45.245 --> 00:55:45.830\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: So. 392\ 00:55:45.830 --> 00:56:04.449\ Richard Hood: It's all common, but it was just a comical one, but there are mechanisms you'd be able to deal with that. What I would also say is, you've got ham radio enthusiasts within the local community. There are organizations such as Raynet. 393\ 00:56:04.780 --> 00:56:13.440\ Richard Hood: but Raynet, during a widespread outage, would be drawn in to deal with the Lrf level 394\ 00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:36.660\ Richard Hood: and setting up hubs within an Lrf. In order to get comms around the wider area. I'm very much aware that that is the plan in a lot of locales that the the voluntary organizations will be drawn in to that larger response. 395\ 00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:46.230\ Richard Hood: So that's why I'm saying yes, we, you know, during peacetime, so to speak, speak to them. Get them involved, help you 396\ 00:56:46.970 --> 00:56:47.770\ Richard Hood: book. 397\ 00:56:48.310 --> 00:56:53.860\ Richard Hood: Be aware. If that's a local or a local area event. 398\ 00:56:54.070 --> 00:57:07.470\ Richard Hood: they will be able to help and support and look to set up, you know, emergency mobile masts or so on to help get communication going, or Wi-fi or whatever. But if it's a larger scale event 399\ 00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:12.050\ Richard Hood: that won't be coming, because it will be being used by others. 400\ 00:57:14.410 --> 00:57:30.850\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: So bear in mind, Richard, that a lot of people like to have a document to refer to. Does your website support a list of all these ideas somewhere. So people can say, Here's a check off list. Let's go through it and see which applies to our particular geography and community. 401\ 00:57:31.260 --> 00:57:54.019\ Richard Hood: Yes and no, not to the degree that I'm talking about now is what I will simply say. We have got an emergency planning workshop, and the idea of that is, there is a workbook that goes alongside it. And we were involved with developing the London Resilience Toolkit, which is sort of a step by step process for developing an emergency plan in effect. 402\ 00:57:54.070 --> 00:58:09.439\ Richard Hood: But we've got some more practical versions of that as well. And so if you went on the emergency planning workshop. It's a 2 sessions piece, and that would help you either revisit one you've already got. 403\ 00:58:09.540 --> 00:58:22.460\ Richard Hood: or to start a new one moving forwards. We do have a risk assessment or a risk management sort of session as well. And there are other 404\ 00:58:22.730 --> 00:58:29.960\ Richard Hood: elements that we offer as well, and there is a government template. What I would say to you is 405\ 00:58:31.990 --> 00:58:34.929\ Richard Hood: you? There are lots of templates out there 406\ 00:58:35.370 --> 00:58:43.499\ Richard Hood: that yet local authorities quite often will come up with one for themselves, or an Lrf. Will come up with one for themselves. 407\ 00:58:43.720 --> 00:58:53.170\ Richard Hood: I've seen some which are really simple and really straightforward, others you would struggle. 408\ 00:58:53.710 --> 00:59:01.990\ Richard Hood: If you were in charge of the British Armed forces to enact and fill out as an emergency plan, they are so complicated 409\ 00:59:02.890 --> 00:59:10.410\ Richard Hood: you need to have a team of professionals in order to do it. What I would say to you is. 410\ 00:59:11.350 --> 00:59:13.640\ Richard Hood: any plan is better than no plan. 411\ 00:59:14.990 --> 00:59:17.359\ Richard Hood: The plan is as good as it 412\ 00:59:17.890 --> 00:59:20.919\ Richard Hood: as good as this is to be used. 413\ 00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:45.200\ Richard Hood: You need to not have it on a shelf. You need to share it with the community, so the community can see it. It is the community's emergency plan, not the Parish and Town Council's emergency plan. It should be owned, and it needs to be a living document that the community understand, and then are more likely to interact with and offer to help and support with. 414\ 00:59:46.170 --> 00:59:55.920\ Richard Hood: Put it up there as a straw dog, not man, sort of thing, so that the community can say, Hang on. This isn't going to work 415\ 00:59:56.180 --> 01:00:02.120\ Richard Hood: because of XY and Z, or there's a better plan here, and we can. We can make it better. 416\ 01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:06.699\ Richard Hood: So please don't be afraid to share 417\ 01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:11.029\ Richard Hood: your community's emergency plan and share it with 418\ 01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:22.510\ Richard Hood: those statutory responding organizations, so share it with the local authority, share it the fire and rescue service. If you have flood volunteers within your community. 419\ 01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:40.469\ Richard Hood: let the fire and rescue service, know that you have them and what skills they have, what level they're expecting to do. So it might be that you've decided that you want to have pumping operations, because that is appropriate for your locale. 420\ 01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:44.150\ Richard Hood: Well, the fire and rescue service need to know that 421\ 01:00:44.700 --> 01:00:48.120\ Richard Hood: all these things are helping and supporting. 422\ 01:00:48.420 --> 01:00:58.640\ Richard Hood: But, as I say, it needs to be a living document. It can't sit on a shelf. It should be reviewed periodically. I would say it should be reviewed worst case annually. 423\ 01:00:59.990 --> 01:01:17.029\ Richard Hood: It should be reviewed. If there's an incident, it should be reviewed when there has been a training for it, and you want to have desk-based training, a desk-based exercise within your community, but also exercise elements of it in the real world. 424\ 01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:20.980\ Richard Hood: so that your community can see things happening. 425\ 01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:27.239\ Richard Hood: So run a rehearsal as if there was a flood, or there was a wildfire. 426\ 01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:31.049\ Richard Hood: you know, access roads being cut off. 427\ 01:01:31.240 --> 01:01:37.150\ Richard Hood: Yes, I'm not saying necessarily block a road. But you simulate that. Yeah. 428\ 01:01:37.850 --> 01:01:47.689\ Richard Hood: you can bring in the emergency services and the emergency services would quite often be very supportive of coming to a community and rehearsing 429\ 01:01:48.160 --> 01:01:51.609\ Richard Hood: because they get to see it in a community. 430\ 01:01:51.740 --> 01:01:54.430\ Richard Hood: They get to do what they do in a community. 431\ 01:01:54.910 --> 01:02:00.710\ Richard Hood: but it allows that partnership working, and it reassures both parties in what can happen. 432\ 01:02:01.220 --> 01:02:04.080\ Richard Hood: and so on, and they'll help and support in that way. 433\ 01:02:06.510 --> 01:02:14.400\ Richard Hood: Are there any other questions or any other problems people are having, or anything that people have thought of, that they would like to bring up or ask. 434\ 01:02:21.710 --> 01:02:47.660\ Jonathan Wise: Yeah, this is fascinating. Thank you so much. I guess I love the idea of the note. Note 21. And yet some of the people I live with are quite some climate deniers. Some people quite skeptical about things. I don't know them particularly well. I guess it's just a question if you've got any advice for how to kind of engage your neighbors in a topic which you feel like they might not want to engage in. 435\ 01:02:47.660 --> 01:02:49.850\ Richard Hood: Oh, actually. 436\ 01:02:50.740 --> 01:02:57.550\ Richard Hood: don't necessarily start with that topic, and you've got the great in. You've got the great ins at the moment. 437\ 01:02:57.680 --> 01:03:06.149\ Richard Hood: So at the moment. Look at what's happening in Ukraine. Look at the conversation around the war footing that the Uk is moving on to. 438\ 01:03:06.650 --> 01:03:13.830\ Richard Hood: That is a brilliant opener in somebody who's a climate, you know, who doesn't believe in climate change 439\ 01:03:14.170 --> 01:03:23.170\ Richard Hood: because it's got nothing to do with the climate, but it still touches on resilience. It still touches on preparedness, it still touches on that emergency aspect. 440\ 01:03:23.620 --> 01:03:30.809\ Richard Hood: but also the idea of a concept of No. 21 isn't just about a a 441\ 01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:43.190\ Richard Hood: knowing what they can do and what you can do, and having a conversation about the challenges. It's about understanding your neighbour understanding the person who lives next to you or down the road 442\ 01:03:43.980 --> 01:04:00.609\ Richard Hood: and having some human contact. So it's also feeding into reducing the sense of isolation and the challenges around mental health as well, so there's so much around that, and it isn't solely around 443\ 01:04:00.940 --> 01:04:08.160\ Richard Hood: the mercenary approach of what to do if something goes wrong, but specifically around 444\ 01:04:09.710 --> 01:04:12.070\ Richard Hood: when you have a difference of a view. 445\ 01:04:12.610 --> 01:04:15.459\ Richard Hood: I was touched in that in a more generic terms. 446\ 01:04:16.650 --> 01:04:23.679\ Richard Hood: Look for similarities, start the conversations, and see where you can actually find common ground. 447\ 01:04:24.550 --> 01:04:29.950\ Richard Hood: Then you have an open conversation which in this day and age can be quite challenging. 448\ 01:04:30.180 --> 01:04:37.310\ Richard Hood: and I try to have an open conversation where you discuss 449\ 01:04:37.730 --> 01:04:44.969\ Richard Hood: what those differences are, and why those differences exist, but don't challenge the person. 450\ 01:04:45.620 --> 01:04:52.429\ Richard Hood: challenge their thinking on that topic if that makes sense, but don't make them feel threatened. 451\ 01:04:53.190 --> 01:04:58.050\ Richard Hood: There's some really great work about dealing with 452\ 01:04:59.140 --> 01:05:02.790\ Richard Hood: people who may have gone down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theory 453\ 01:05:02.980 --> 01:05:11.489\ Richard Hood: and things like that there's a lot of work that's been done around that. And it comes from having open conversations and 454\ 01:05:12.050 --> 01:05:19.629\ Richard Hood: gently asking them, why do they think that? And then exploring their thinking. 455\ 01:05:20.290 --> 01:05:27.529\ Richard Hood: And then you you don't pick holes. But you point out, why is that right? 456\ 01:05:28.380 --> 01:05:31.909\ Richard Hood: And so you actually get them to challenge their own thinking. 457\ 01:05:32.740 --> 01:05:33.559\ Jonathan Wise: Thank you. 458\ 01:05:34.710 --> 01:06:03.599\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: I also thought, Jonathan, that a couple of other things that you might use on the deniers is that leave it to nature. So let's not talk about floods caused by the climate change. Just the fact that there are floods. I was reading this morning about the chances of what they call a Cme a corona mass ejection, where there's basically a huge solar flare which could knock out all of our satellites. And so you lose comms. 459\ 01:06:03.650 --> 01:06:09.250\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: So that's nothing to do with climate. Deny it's just a fact of life that every now and again the sun goes berserk. 460\ 01:06:09.590 --> 01:06:28.440\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: or you know, we had that occasion a couple of years ago, when a volcano took off in Iceland and had to reroute all the airplanes around the Atlantic, and things like that didn't actually affect communications. But that sort of thing, I think, could have a major impact. And then, of course, there's always the next 461\ 01:06:29.090 --> 01:06:30.240\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: pandemic 462\ 01:06:30.450 --> 01:06:53.860\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: that I think one of the things I was reading about COVID-19 was that the experts were rather surprised that there was so long between the last big episode, which was the Spanish flu at the end of 1918. And now it's 2020 before we had the next one, and they were amazed that we went for 100 years, and there's no reason to suspect that the next one won't come in 5 years, time or next week, or whatever. 463\ 01:06:54.100 --> 01:07:01.600\ Richard Hood: Well, just sort of expanding on that. A little bit more. COVID-19 was not what we were expecting. 464\ 01:07:01.990 --> 01:07:09.949\ Richard Hood: And there are multiple others that we are expecting. We're still expecting the flu pandemic 465\ 01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:15.340\ Richard Hood: with, and that will be far more challenging, potentially than Covid. 466\ 01:07:15.560 --> 01:07:20.140\ Richard Hood: And there are other pandemics, and so on around the world. 467\ 01:07:20.260 --> 01:07:38.720\ Richard Hood: the other not pandemics. All the diseases and other viruses that we're more concerned about, that are on the potential radar that we watch out for the other one. I just wanted to sort of mention. I'm glad you clarified what you meant by leave it to nature. 468\ 01:07:40.380 --> 01:07:50.959\ Richard Hood: I was a little worried when you started. That was the opener for it where that conversation was going. But mentioning the 469\ 01:07:51.090 --> 01:07:59.280\ Richard Hood: the sort of a solar flare effect we would be looking potentially in worst case scenarios like a Carrington event. 470\ 01:07:59.540 --> 01:08:07.090\ Richard Hood: And if that's happened, we're losing Comms. We're losing power. You know, you're losing transportation. 471\ 01:08:07.300 --> 01:08:08.500\ Richard Hood: You're losing 472\ 01:08:08.830 --> 01:08:21.299\ Richard Hood: so much electrical capability and and electronic capability. You've got to think how you would function without any of that. 473\ 01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:28.730\ Richard Hood: Now a lot of it that the expectation is refers to a black start event 474\ 01:08:28.950 --> 01:08:33.970\ Richard Hood: and a black start event is when the power network goes, the whole grid goes down. 475\ 01:08:34.330 --> 01:08:49.119\ Richard Hood: and that's what was referred to with Portugal when the Portuguese, when Portugal had their Spain and Portugal, had their power outage, and that's where their fear was. It would take 7 days to reboot the whole network 476\ 01:08:49.950 --> 01:08:51.700\ Richard Hood: that happens quite often. 477\ 01:08:51.990 --> 01:08:57.350\ Richard Hood: There's been quite a few of those that have gone on since 2,000. We haven't had one yet. 478\ 01:08:57.689 --> 01:09:01.090\ Richard Hood: We've been close on a few occasions. But 479\ 01:09:01.649 --> 01:09:05.060\ Richard Hood: the point is that that would be a 7 day outage. 480\ 01:09:05.250 --> 01:09:16.940\ Richard Hood: Now, what they're looking at is rural areas would actually be up and running sooner than urban areas, because their network is a lot more simplistic. 481\ 01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:31.320\ Richard Hood: So rural communities would get their supply back before urban areas which have got a lot more complex power transmission networks, and so they would be out for potentially a longer period than 7 days. 482\ 01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:52.529\ Richard Hood: But if you're looking at a large scale counting event. You're looking at personal electronic devices and and items around the house would take a lot longer to replace and to operate, including cars potentially than having power back to properties. 483\ 01:09:55.020 --> 01:09:56.950\ Richard Hood: Lots, lots of food for thought. There. 484\ 01:09:57.500 --> 01:10:03.279\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: Yes, I did tell people this would be a reassuring session. Richard. 485\ 01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:09.759\ Richard Hood: Okay? Well, moving on from that, then the point of you. You're all here. 486\ 01:10:10.220 --> 01:10:14.880\ Richard Hood: and so that the reassurance is you're here. You're listening. 487\ 01:10:15.620 --> 01:10:22.640\ Richard Hood: If you are listening and you do nothing else. You're more prepared today than you were yesterday. 488\ 01:10:23.340 --> 01:10:30.680\ Richard Hood: and it's about the mindset of being prepared because the actual emergency plan. 489\ 01:10:31.150 --> 01:10:36.040\ Richard Hood: The importance is about the the process you go through to create it 490\ 01:10:37.640 --> 01:10:44.420\ Richard Hood: during an emergency. You're often going to find that the plan falls apart and you have to do something else anyway. 491\ 01:10:44.850 --> 01:10:47.490\ Richard Hood: But the point is, you've thought about it. 492\ 01:10:48.510 --> 01:11:16.489\ Richard Hood: Even the act of thinking about it makes you better prepared. And within your community. It's about recognizing all those skills, all those resources, and all those capabilities that you have in that community. And how can you access them? So I would say, yes, there are some significant challenges. Yes, as a nation we need to be, do far, far better than we are when it comes to resilience 493\ 01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:21.240\ Richard Hood: other countries. Other communities are far better than we are at the moment. 494\ 01:11:21.830 --> 01:11:27.360\ Richard Hood: but we have that the advantage of a population we have. 495\ 01:11:27.810 --> 01:11:33.110\ Richard Hood: We just need to start connecting. So go out and know 21 people. 496\ 01:11:33.630 --> 01:11:42.619\ Richard Hood: That's the start point of being a more resilient community and a more resilient society. And don't forget your businesses. 497\ 01:11:43.190 --> 01:11:50.139\ Richard Hood: Businesses are part of your community. They have a job to play to make your community more resilient. 498\ 01:11:50.260 --> 01:11:57.829\ Richard Hood: But you, as a community, have a job and a role to play to help and support them during an emergency as well. 499\ 01:12:00.020 --> 01:12:05.855\ Richard Hood: So yeah, but hopefully, that's that's that's put on a more optimistic spin on it towards the end. 500\ 01:12:07.090 --> 01:12:24.180\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: Well, thank you very much. I really did appreciate that coming a lot of very nice comments coming to your way from the chat. So if nobody else has got a hand up, or is desperate to say anything, let me say thank you so much for stepping into the breach. We're very grateful to you. 501\ 01:12:24.220 --> 01:12:38.610\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: and thank you everyone for attending, and we look forward to seeing you next week, and having cast attention upon Jack during your speech, Richard, I should point out that Jack will be next year's sorry next week's 502\ 01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:47.039\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: pantacession provider, and he'll be updating us on what's going on with his world, that he let us know about last year. 503\ 01:12:47.467 --> 01:12:50.409\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: Thank you all very much for your time. Sorry, Jack, especially. 504\ 01:12:50.410 --> 01:12:52.432\ Jack Cooper: So I'll just, I'll just mention 505\ 01:12:52.880 --> 01:13:04.960\ Jack Cooper: Yeah, thank you so much for that, Richard. Yeah, I've got a project called Postcode Revolution, which is put in the chat which is doing is very resonant with, this is about kind of building community 506\ 01:13:05.010 --> 01:13:09.009\ Jack Cooper: connecting with neighbors around that hyper local level and doing stuff. So 507\ 01:13:09.010 --> 01:13:35.770\ Jack Cooper: yeah, that was fantastic to listen to. And as listening to that, I'm going to slightly adapt what I'm going to talk about next week, because a lot of it is stuff that I'm doing. So I'll be focusing more around nature and nature based kind of adaptation and transformation next week in the context of that. But yeah, so so useful and so interesting. Thank you for everything you're doing. 508\ 01:13:36.250 --> 01:13:41.040\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: Great Jack. Thank you very much, and thank you all for coming and see you next time, whenever that happens to be. 509\ 01:13:41.040 --> 01:13:48.389\ Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: Yeah. And I love the idea that Chris Noon's photo bombing cat reminds us that emergencies can happen at any time. Well done. 510\ 01:13:48.390 --> 01:13:50.180\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: And I'm surprised it didn't. 511\ 01:13:50.310 --> 01:13:52.609\ Richard Hood: A question mark of the tail as it walks past. 512\ 01:13:53.910 --> 01:13:57.470\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: Andrew, you're missing your your opportunity here. 513\ 01:13:57.730 --> 01:14:02.199\ Andrew Maliphant Great Collaboration: I am. Let us go forward together, and we'll never surrender. 514\ 01:14:02.200 --> 01:14:27.179\ Richard Hood: If you want to reach out to me it would be really appreciated. We might be able to sort of connect with some of the postcode one you were mentioned, we might be able to build that in to some of the work we do, and so we can get the message out a bit wider for you, but yeah, so I'll put my. Oh, if if Graham, if you can pass my email address around that, we appreciate. 515\ 01:14:27.420 --> 01:14:31.720\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: Happy to do that. I'll I'll make sure it goes up on the on the wiki. 516\ 01:14:32.430 --> 01:14:33.439\ Jack Cooper: Cool. Thank you. 517\ 01:14:33.440 --> 01:14:34.700\ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration, Isle of Wight: Sure take care. 518\ 01:14:37.410 --> 01:14:37.920\ Richard Hood: Bye.