CCA 02: 15Sep25 Wendover & Villages
Joolz Thompson guides the members of 4 Buckinghamshire parishes through some more preparatory steps before their live meeting on 11Oct25
Video Timeline (min:sec):
00:00 - 09:40 Greenway and HS2 presentation
09:40 - 14:20 Introduction by Joolz
14:20 - 16:00 Introduction to Active Travel components
16:00 - 37:04 a) Cycle Path
37:04 - 47:30 b) Car Sharing
47:30 - 55:44 c) Community Energy
55:44 - 63:20 d) Food Growth
63:20 - 68:49(end) Wrap Up
Presentation 1: Greenway and HS2
Presentation 2: Cycle Path
Meeting Summary:
Quick recap
The meeting focused on organizing a workshop about community climate action planning with discussions on transport and active travel initiatives. Participants shared updates on various local projects including cycling infrastructure, car sharing programs, solar energy proposals, and food security efforts across Buckinghamshire. The group discussed transitioning these community initiatives into the upcoming workshop planning, emphasizing the importance of collective action and long-term strategic planning for future generations.
Next steps
Summary
Workshop Planning and Logistics Meeting
The meeting focused on organizing a workshop with 56 registrations so far, with plans to potentially run another session if needed. Participants discussed logistics, including screen sharing capabilities and technical setup for presentations. Andrew Band was scheduled to present but had limited time, and the meeting included discussions about cycling initiatives and potential solar project areas, with Sean offering geospatial expertise to help with mapping.
HS2 Greenway Route Planning Discussion
Andrew Band presented Wendover HS2's perspective on the impact of HS2 on Greenway plans, highlighting issues with proposed cycle routes and footpaths. The group is pushing HS2 to release routes they agreed to reinstate, particularly around the Smaldean area where HS2 has said no. They are also urging Bucks Council to incorporate the desired plans into landscape proposals, and have written to the council demanding they show these plans are included. The discussion focused on alternative access routes, including using existing tracks and repurposing temporary roads as part of the cycleway network.
Community Climate Action Planning Workshop
Joolz welcomed participants to the third preparatory Zoom for the Community Climate Action Planning workshop focused on transport and active travel. She highlighted the benefits of active travel, including reduced congestion, lower air pollution, improved public spaces, and decreased carbon emissions. Joolz also mentioned that Bucks County Council received about £2 million in funding from the government's Active Travel Fund, though this funding has been allocated. The discussion emphasized the importance of planning for a decade-long strategy, as future funding opportunities are expected to become available.
Aylesbury Cycling Infrastructure Analysis
Damian presented a detailed analysis of cycling infrastructure in the Aylesbury area, focusing on the disconnected nature of West Turville from other cycling improvements in the region. He highlighted that while Bucks Council has invested approximately £5 million in cycle improvements around Aylesbury since 2021, West Turville has received no funding despite being adjacent to developments like Hamden Fields. Damian criticized Bucks Council's plans, noting that while they promise a Greenway extension and shared use paths along the Marrow Way, the actual Hamden Fields Master Plan does not include direct safe cycling connections to West Turville.
Cycling Safety Route Improvements
Damian raised concerns about the safety of cycling routes in Westbury, highlighting that children are forced to choose between dangerous roads or facing arrest for cycling on pavements. He announced plans for an early morning cycling event to showcase the challenges faced by school children navigating these routes. The group discussed the need to connect Western Turville to surrounding areas, with Stuart and Martin emphasizing the importance of connecting all villages and adapting practical solutions rather than strictly following legislation. Justine shared efforts in Wendover to address safety issues, including an upcoming action day on the 22nd to manage traffic and improve pedestrian and cyclist safety.
Sustainable Transportation Initiatives Discussion
Eli shared her experience from 10-15 years ago with the Get Wind of Recycling group, highlighting the challenges faced despite support from schools and some county council members. Alan presented a car sharing initiative in Hadnham using Zimbal's electric vehicle service, which has been successful with two vehicles in operation and potential for expansion to neighboring parishes including Wendover. The discussion concluded with Paul mentioning Wendover's role as a Bucks pilot site for on-street electric car chargers.
Solar Farm Development Proposal
Paul presented an idea to develop a contaminated land site owned by Thames Water near Wendover into a solar farm to power community energy initiatives, including charging electric vehicles. The proposed 10-acre site could generate approximately 1 megawatt of power, equivalent to powering about 270 homes annually while saving 186 tonnes of carbon. Joolz offered to conduct a desktop feasibility study and suggested potential revenue streams through power purchase agreements with Thames Water, while Frances mentioned that she and Sean were already attempting to contact Thames Water about the project.
Grow to Give Food Initiative
Justine Hamer presented her organization Grow to Give, which began in 2020 as a COVID response program to address food insecurity. The initiative repurposes fresh produce from 20 allotments across Buckinghamshire, involving 250 volunteers and supporting approximately 3,500 local people annually through five food charities. Justine highlighted that despite perceptions of wealth in the area, food poverty affects about 33% of households in some High Wycombe wards and 1 in 5 young people live in poverty according to the Joseph Rowntree Foundation.
Community Workshop Planning Meeting
The meeting focused on community initiatives and planning for a workshop on October 11th. Joolz expressed inspiration from the discussion of various community efforts, including active travel, community energy, car sharing, food, and biodiversity. The group discussed transitioning ideas from the Zoom meeting to the upcoming workshop, with Joolz suggesting that participants consider leading teams on specific topics and offering pre-workshop huddles on specialist subjects. Joolz emphasized the importance of collective action and ambitious planning for future generations, referencing Amsterdam's car-free journey as an example of long-term change.
Chat:
Joolz | Community Climate Action
36:16
Joolz | Community Climate Action
37:44
https://citychangers.org/it-was-no-easy-ride/
Stuart holcroft
38:58
Brand new to this group (Halton PC highways lead)
Have there been any discussions around connecting Halton to Weston Turville / Aston Clinton by bike (and for walkers / runners)? Airfield Road (alongside the RAF Airfield) is a death trap
Rachel Blackmore
39:50
Totally agree Stuart
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Stuart holcroft
40:03
Also - apologies. Need to leave in 5 minutes...
Joy O’Neill
41:59
I’m not a cyclist but I do walk most places and due to the speed and amount of traffic it often feels unsafe walking on many of the village roads. Could we include pedestrians in plans as well?
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Sean McCarthy
43:12
who is responsible for maintaining hedges etc next to a cycle path? overgrowth stops use of path.
Sean McCarthy - car sharing
53:30
Is this it? https://zimbl.co.uk/
1 Reply
Fiona Harding - car sharing
53:35
Joolz | Community Climate Action
56:55
Other examples for reference: https://www.ctsussex.org.uk/services/electric-vehicle-community-car-club/
https://www.como.org.uk/community-car-sharing
https://malvernhills-carclubs.org.uk/
Paul Moring
01:05:43
51.773571020914446, -0.7535588756560982
jean cowell
01:08:31
Cant see the pics Justine
Sean McCarthy
01:12:52
Does anyone know how to set up a Citizen Science project?
1 Reply
jean cowell
01:16:49
Thanks for holding this, Rachel and David, and for the really interesting information and for all youre doing. It is inspiring - lot to think about. Many thanks - 11 October! Just to follow on what youre mentioning at the end - area that comes to mind is the health aspect of this - id be prepared to contribute some stats at least to this ..
Audio-transcript:
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1 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:37.610 Rachel Blackmore: Hi, Helen. Hi, Martin.
2 00:00:39.010 --> 00:00:41.100 Rachel Blackmore: Can you hear me? How are you doing?
3 00:00:58.090 --> 00:01:00.330 Martin Baxter: We're running a bit of a church.
4 00:01:01.340 --> 00:01:04.629 Rachel Blackmore: Oh, that's okay. Are you en route somewhere?
5 00:01:04.849 --> 00:01:09.119 Martin Baxter: No, we're home, but helen was out.
6 00:01:10.080 --> 00:01:17.370 Rachel Blackmore: Because I was… I was hoping to see you, just to say, I see you've booked, you've booked two places, and Helen's booked two places for the work.
7 00:01:18.240 --> 00:01:22.720 Rachel Blackmore: Does that just mean it's… those four places are for two of you, or of you each?
8 00:01:22.720 --> 00:01:23.850 Martin Baxter: There's two of us.
9 00:01:23.850 --> 00:01:31.140 Rachel Blackmore: Yeah, that's okay, because we're filling up, I better have another quick peek. Hi, Andrew, I'll just have a little look at how many we've got.
10 00:01:33.850 --> 00:01:34.910 Rachel Blackmore: Hi, Andrew.
11 00:01:35.820 --> 00:01:37.640 Rachel Blackmore: Thanks for joining us again.
12 00:01:39.010 --> 00:01:45.100 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Good to be here. I was… I managed to dial in twice last time, and I had to disappear because I was echoing all over the place.
13 00:01:45.100 --> 00:01:52.810 Rachel Blackmore: I notice that sometimes. You see, I see a lot of numbers, and then I'm thinking, but there's not that many people, I think quite a few people.
14 00:01:52.810 --> 00:01:53.759 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That's hidden tomorrow.
15 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:54.400 Rachel Blackmore: Yes.
16 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:59.749 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The things with computers is they only do what they tell them to do, and if they think you've asked them to open it.
17 00:02:00.190 --> 00:02:03.369 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: In something in your browser, and also on the app.
18 00:02:03.560 --> 00:02:06.790 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: then it does both, which is where I went wrong.
19 00:02:08.530 --> 00:02:29.529 Rachel Blackmore: I'll have a quick peek, to see if anybody else is… we were up to 56 for our workshop, so it's gone out in social media in all the places, but it's… we haven't flyered, so I'm really interesting to see who we reach by getting flyers everywhere, and if we get more than we've got room for, then we just, run another one.
20 00:02:29.530 --> 00:02:30.390 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, indeed.
21 00:02:30.650 --> 00:02:44.489 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I'm here principally as an observer, of course, because… what's the expression? We're all… you're all doing very well, yes. Where was that from? Oh, it was… Are you being served, isn't it? Yes.
22 00:02:44.490 --> 00:02:48.910 Rachel Blackmore: Oh, that's the one, that's the one. Yeah, the old ones are the best, aren't they?
23 00:02:48.910 --> 00:02:52.310 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Well, it's the only ones I know, so…
24 00:02:52.310 --> 00:02:56.320 Rachel Blackmore: Yes, I'm completely out of it with the latest.
25 00:02:56.320 --> 00:03:01.339 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We might also have, some… an observer from Hope for the Future, which is a…
26 00:03:01.550 --> 00:03:13.540 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: An organization which looks at helping or encouraging people to liaise with their local politicians, in addition to what we're doing, of course, is to liaise with their
27 00:03:13.910 --> 00:03:17.059 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: community and actions were planning workshops, so…
28 00:03:17.330 --> 00:03:21.050 Rachel Blackmore: Yeah, excellent, so they'll be good people to have along. Hi, Damien!
29 00:03:23.770 --> 00:03:33.850 Rachel Blackmore: Damien's coming in first, inasmuch as he's going to talk about cycling, and can't stay very long, so he's, first on our agenda, aren't you, Damien?
30 00:03:34.010 --> 00:03:40.070 Rachel Blackmore: We're all ready. And we're doing 54 early birds.
31 00:03:45.180 --> 00:03:49.930 Rachel Blackmore: I've booked in to come on over later, Damien. Have the okay from Janet.
32 00:03:53.600 --> 00:03:55.850 Rachel Blackmore: You're muted, Damien.
33 00:03:55.850 --> 00:03:58.090 Damian Campbell: I guarantee you a drink.
34 00:03:58.090 --> 00:04:10.820 Rachel Blackmore: Thank you so much. So, our book club tonight, Andrew Martin, and well, it's a women's book… well, I don't know if we've said it's a women's book, but they are a women's. Anyway, you're serving drinks for us, aren't you, Damien?
35 00:04:10.820 --> 00:04:11.979 Damian Campbell: Apparently, yes.
36 00:04:14.270 --> 00:04:18.000 Rachel Blackmore: That'll be a nice ending to the evening.
37 00:04:21.430 --> 00:04:25.240 Rachel Blackmore: Stephen from Wendover Parish Council.
38 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:28.269 Rachel Blackmore: Environmental Group. Hi, Stephen!
39 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:41.800 Rachel Blackmore: Hi, Sean.
40 00:04:47.790 --> 00:04:48.450 Rachel Blackmore: As shown.
41 00:04:50.550 --> 00:04:56.319 Sean McCarthy: I get so many different screens coming up, I never know which one to click on, but…
42 00:04:57.180 --> 00:05:01.860 Rachel Blackmore: Click the right one, yep. I think, anyway, hopefully we're all in the right place.
43 00:05:02.170 --> 00:05:05.790 Rachel Blackmore: I've forgotten your role, Sean. What is your, I've forgotten the.
44 00:05:05.900 --> 00:05:21.089 Sean McCarthy: I live in Wendover, I'm a volunteer with the Wendover News, but also, I've got a geospatial background, and I said I'd be able to kind of get involved in that side of it, if possible.
45 00:05:21.090 --> 00:05:28.260 Rachel Blackmore: Oh, yes, that's help… that's helpful, yes, some paper for… Myself some notes, but… Yes.
46 00:05:31.500 --> 00:05:35.579 Sean McCarthy: Oh, and, I'm a… I'm a biologist.
47 00:05:35.580 --> 00:05:36.210 Rachel Blackmore: Oh, great.
48 00:05:36.210 --> 00:05:36.970 Sean McCarthy: certainly.
49 00:05:37.520 --> 00:05:38.170 Rachel Blackmore: Yeah.
50 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:49.269 Rachel Blackmore: Jules was asking me, about the… the area for the,
51 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:59.999 Rachel Blackmore: an area that we could potentially use. I think you heard last time, did you, Sean? An area we could potentially use for… maybe not, maybe we didn't mention it last time, for solar, so.
52 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:01.849 Sean McCarthy: Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
53 00:06:02.840 --> 00:06:08.230 Rachel Blackmore: And he's, yeah, mapping's obviously important for all this. Hi, Andy!
54 00:06:08.660 --> 00:06:13.960 Rachel Blackmore: Hi there, can you hear me? I can, thanks for joining us, because I know you're tight on time. Tight on time.
55 00:06:13.960 --> 00:06:14.650 Andrew Band: So, yeah.
56 00:06:14.650 --> 00:06:17.230 Rachel Blackmore: Do you know Damien? Can you see Damien on screen there, Carol?
57 00:06:17.230 --> 00:06:19.140 Andrew Band: I can see, Damien. Hi, Damien. Hi.
58 00:06:19.450 --> 00:06:34.429 Rachel Blackmore: a fellow cyclist, and, Damien's been great at pushing, bucks to increase our cycle lanes that will link west and Turville, so… Okay, fantastic. Obviously, a lot more to do.
59 00:06:34.970 --> 00:06:46.190 Andrew Band: Okay, I've… what I've got, I've got a short little presentation, Rachel, to put on the screen, and, I have to say, looking at this
60 00:06:46.470 --> 00:06:48.000 Andrew Band: I'm not quite sure.
61 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:52.019 Andrew Band: Well, how to do it?
62 00:06:52.020 --> 00:06:57.749 Rachel Blackmore: You might not be able to without a screen. Obviously, the person who sets the meeting up has got screen share, but.
63 00:06:57.750 --> 00:06:58.320 Andrew Band: Yes.
64 00:06:58.320 --> 00:06:58.830 Rachel Blackmore: might need.
65 00:06:58.830 --> 00:07:05.220 Andrew Band: You might have to give it to… give it to us, yeah. Yes, I can't give it, but, who set the meeting up, then?
66 00:07:05.220 --> 00:07:09.690 Rachel Blackmore: Jules set it up, and so he'll be able to do that. I imagine he'll be here in a minute.
67 00:07:09.690 --> 00:07:10.950 Andrew Band: Garage, okay.
68 00:07:12.210 --> 00:07:13.680 Andrew Band: So, yeah.
69 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:15.840 Rachel Blackmore: It's not coming up as its share?
70 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:17.870 Rachel Blackmore: Share screen.
71 00:07:17.870 --> 00:07:18.679 Damian Campbell: I can.
72 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:19.990 Rachel Blackmore: It is, actually, at the bottom.
73 00:07:19.990 --> 00:07:24.039 Andrew Band: Oh, it is. Yes. Oh, yes, no, there is. I can see it. Brilliant, okay.
74 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:24.730 Rachel Blackmore: Thank you.
75 00:07:24.730 --> 00:07:29.029 Andrew Band: So there you go, you might just be able to…
76 00:07:31.140 --> 00:07:34.949 Rachel Blackmore: Andrew's just screen sharing, oh, great.
77 00:07:34.950 --> 00:07:36.319 Andrew Band: Does that work?
78 00:07:36.320 --> 00:07:37.799 Rachel Blackmore: It does, it does, yeah.
79 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:38.800 Andrew Band: Okay.
80 00:07:39.520 --> 00:07:40.210 Andrew Band: Okay.
81 00:07:40.610 --> 00:07:42.589 Andrew Band: I'm just gonna stop for a second, and
82 00:07:47.490 --> 00:07:51.790 Andrew Band: Rachel, given the time, shall I just kick off very quickly, then? Is that okay?
83 00:07:51.790 --> 00:07:53.649 Rachel Blackmore: If you've got to go in 5 minutes, then…
84 00:07:53.650 --> 00:07:54.709 Andrew Band: Yeah, I'm really, really shocked.
85 00:07:54.710 --> 00:07:56.520 Rachel Blackmore: You're very welcome to join.
86 00:07:56.990 --> 00:08:00.450 Francesca Beato: No babies, no babies, you're not my son! You're not my son!
87 00:08:01.990 --> 00:08:07.519 Rachel Blackmore: Hi, is that… is that Yves Fran? No? I don't know if that was in the background.
88 00:08:08.220 --> 00:08:27.169 Andrew Band: Right, Rachel, I'm just going to put this, and Damien, you may, may know some of this, or not some of this, and, but this is a Wendover HS2 perspective on, the impact of HS2 on the, the, the Greenway plans.
89 00:08:27.170 --> 00:08:34.299 Andrew Band: So very quickly, I know it's got draft in it, we've not actually released this, to, to, to anybody, publicly.
90 00:08:34.299 --> 00:08:45.949 Andrew Band: But that the, the greenway map, if you should see what I mean, in the original proposals from Bucks Council, we believe, had, a link proposal showing
91 00:08:45.950 --> 00:08:56.799 Andrew Band: from Dunsmore, a link through to, Ellsboro Road in Wendover, and then, ultimately from Wendover up to, to, to, Nashley, Lane.
92 00:08:57.640 --> 00:09:02.910 Andrew Band: And the idea was to connect to the Amber Way in Wendover.
93 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:20.749 Andrew Band: And also, somehow connect to the, the, Wendover Arm Canal, et cetera, et cetera, as well as also the, the, the Chilton Cycleway, bridgeway, route, uphill Lane.
94 00:09:21.730 --> 00:09:22.740 Andrew Band: And so that…
95 00:09:22.980 --> 00:09:37.609 Andrew Band: we understood to be the original sort of idea, and, there was an undertaking in assurance by HS2 to provide at least some cycle route along the A413, underneath the viaduct.
96 00:09:38.280 --> 00:09:41.179 Andrew Band: So, needless to say that we've,
97 00:09:41.390 --> 00:09:59.059 Andrew Band: been pushing HS2, to be able to release up the routes so that we can at least get some of the paths that they agreed to reinstated. But surprise, surprise, particularly around the Smaldean area, they've said no.
98 00:10:00.540 --> 00:10:14.919 Andrew Band: And we've also been pressing Bucks Council fairly recently, to, to, to, basically tell them that the landscape plans that are being presented don't incorporate the plans that we're looking for.
99 00:10:15.350 --> 00:10:22.710 Andrew Band: And so, therefore, they should be rejected on that basis until they, have properly enclosed it, the route.
100 00:10:22.710 --> 00:10:37.349 Andrew Band: So, what we've done, is, we've been looking at various access routes. Now, I'm assuming that most people understand where I'm talking about when I hear, so please raise your hand if you don't.
101 00:10:37.540 --> 00:10:45.159 Andrew Band: But south of Wendover, A413, down, at Dunsmore. So that's the…
102 00:10:45.370 --> 00:10:47.129 Andrew Band: At the point where the existing
103 00:10:47.660 --> 00:10:50.699 Andrew Band: Path, or the new path, is stopped.
104 00:10:50.820 --> 00:10:51.590 Andrew Band: Yeah?
105 00:10:52.170 --> 00:11:06.999 Andrew Band: And, the proposal, from our understanding, was to use, the Small Dean Lane, to connect up with, the, the, the original Small Dean Lane.
106 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:20.750 Andrew Band: Which is supposed to be reinstated by HS2. And it's this area where my cursor is. I'm not sure everybody can see my cursor. But it's… it's, it's… oops.
107 00:11:23.140 --> 00:11:31.130 Andrew Band: it's this area that I'm just marking on the arrow here, that's all being blocked up by HS2 at the moment.
108 00:11:32.760 --> 00:11:44.700 Andrew Band: The proposal, then, is to, push them to, use the track, all the way.
109 00:11:45.230 --> 00:11:50.580 Andrew Band: Along, Smaldean, Lane.
110 00:11:51.010 --> 00:12:00.100 Andrew Band: carry on up to the tunnel portal, and effectively reinstate the footpath that they'd taken away, the footpath and bridleway.
111 00:12:00.940 --> 00:12:05.170 Andrew Band: And then, moving further north, from that point.
112 00:12:05.310 --> 00:12:08.589 Andrew Band: To, to connect with, Backham Lane.
113 00:12:09.270 --> 00:12:16.730 Andrew Band: And so, they've presented the scheme here, without the pink dots. The pink dots are showing the routes that we're proposing.
114 00:12:16.850 --> 00:12:22.140 Andrew Band: And we're saying, listen, you need to make some connections here.
115 00:12:22.350 --> 00:12:30.920 Andrew Band: First point of connection is at the bottom of Backham Lane, so that at least people have got access to the Chilton Cycleway… cycle route.
116 00:12:31.810 --> 00:12:38.240 Andrew Band: And then secondly, around, the perimeter, to Ellsboro Road.
117 00:12:40.070 --> 00:12:42.230 Andrew Band: And the big problem is that the plans are missing.
118 00:12:42.410 --> 00:12:58.099 Andrew Band: And, they've got a, an access road from, and I'm going to move on to the next plan, access road from Backham Lane, to, to Ellsboro Road at the moment. It's just this, this, link here, just on here.
119 00:12:58.520 --> 00:13:01.919 Andrew Band: It's a temporary road, which they intend to hack up.
120 00:13:02.300 --> 00:13:08.889 Andrew Band: And, and, and, take all the way the fencing and returned back to a field.
121 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:11.989 Andrew Band: And we're saying it's a perfectly good track.
122 00:13:12.350 --> 00:13:19.710 Andrew Band: And why on earth wouldn't you, consider at least rationalizing it, making it into a decent psychopath?
123 00:13:20.790 --> 00:13:31.099 Andrew Band: And likewise, down, on Aylesboro Road itself, where the crazy bridge is, if everybody can picture where that crazy bridge is, the temporary bridge.
124 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:35.550 Andrew Band: A lot of that roadway is being proposed to be, taken up.
125 00:13:36.970 --> 00:13:40.099 Andrew Band: And, again, we're saying… hang on.
126 00:13:40.350 --> 00:13:46.339 Andrew Band: She's taking the road up. Again, why not repurpose it and use it as part of the cycle, right?
127 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:50.829 Andrew Band: And Bucks Council have not.
128 00:13:51.410 --> 00:13:59.879 Andrew Band: in any of their discussions, so far, if they entertain this idea, because they're simply saying, well, this is not in the Act.
129 00:14:00.090 --> 00:14:09.669 Andrew Band: And we're saying, no, this lacks common sense, and so the Parish Council and Wendover HS2 have written the Bucks Council, demanding that they show that this is on their plans.
130 00:14:10.060 --> 00:14:15.859 Andrew Band: So, Damien, if you've got any further assistance and help you on this one, do let us know.
131 00:14:15.860 --> 00:14:24.520 Damian Campbell: Yes, I am totally on board with the same problems. In my presentation, you'll hear exactly the same kind of intransigence from bucks.
132 00:14:24.520 --> 00:14:24.860 Andrew Band: Right.
133 00:14:24.860 --> 00:14:28.470 Damian Campbell: But, by the way, I pedaled along that the,
134 00:14:28.690 --> 00:14:32.790 Damian Campbell: Membersbourne Greenway on Sunday, so… Yes. I know exactly where you are.
135 00:14:32.790 --> 00:14:52.580 Andrew Band: Yeah, exactly right. Right, and then carrying on, and this is the fundamental last bit, so this is Ellsboro Road, and then the scheme from what we're saying on Ellsboro Road. Again, part of the, the original, design principles, Chilton design principles, was that there should be some form of, path.
136 00:14:52.670 --> 00:15:02.330 Andrew Band: And we're saying, look, from a practicality point of view, I don't think it's that difficult. Beyond the whip of HS2, particularly the amount of tarmac they've laid down.
137 00:15:02.410 --> 00:15:13.229 Andrew Band: To actually, lay a route alongside the Green Tunnel, and then alongside their cutting all the way up to Nashley Lane. Indeed, half of this
138 00:15:13.530 --> 00:15:15.450 Andrew Band: will be track, anyway.
139 00:15:16.060 --> 00:15:24.869 Andrew Band: Because they have access tracks to the ponds and various other bits of monitoring, so we're saying, well, come on, guys, we want this to be designated as a proper cycleway.
140 00:15:25.510 --> 00:15:31.710 Andrew Band: So, our sphere of interest runs up to the point that, leaves nationally.
141 00:15:32.380 --> 00:15:48.649 Andrew Band: road. Now, where that goes from there, whether it connects back to the Amber Way, I don't know, but, that's, that's, that's that point there. The other point to note is that we want the cycleway to run across Folly Bridge.
142 00:15:48.990 --> 00:16:01.009 Andrew Band: down Lionel Avenue, and connect up with the Wendora Arm Canal and the Amber Way that way. So, this bit here is a… is a… is a definite, push, if you see what I mean.
143 00:16:02.020 --> 00:16:16.100 Andrew Band: So, the proposals that we're putting there are being floated around with, the parish council, development plans, Rachel, you may hear from Clive at some point or other on this.
144 00:16:16.100 --> 00:16:32.379 Andrew Band: But, you know, essentially, Nunday, what we're trying to do is garner people's, sort of, thoughts on this and, and, and, push it, further with, both HS2 and Bucks, Bucks Council.
145 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:36.609 Andrew Band: Oh, Rachel, you're gone… gone silent.
146 00:16:38.850 --> 00:16:49.680 Rachel Blackmore: Yeah, perfect, thank you. And we're hoping, obviously, we've got greater numbers now in four parishes, so hopefully we're going to have more pressing value. So, thanks ever so much, Andy, that's… that's brilliant.
147 00:16:49.680 --> 00:16:57.119 Andrew Band: Not a problem, and as I say, I'll stop sharing. I think that stopped sharing, that's it.
148 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:16.339 Andrew Band: Yeah, I'd love to have some feedback of the likes of Damien and Kai. I apologize, I can't hang on for much longer. I know Martin's on the call there, so Martin, maybe you might be able to pick up something from this. Yeah. And please do feedback your thoughts on whether we're on the right track at all.
149 00:17:16.780 --> 00:17:20.579 Rachel Blackmore: We've got Clive here as well, Andy. We've got lots of.
150 00:17:20.589 --> 00:17:21.989 Andrew Band: Oh, you've got other people, though, as well.
151 00:17:21.990 --> 00:17:22.679 Rachel Blackmore: Yeah, we've got an eye.
152 00:17:22.710 --> 00:17:26.560 Andrew Band: I could probably get a slap rest from Clive, he's not seen this yet.
153 00:17:26.560 --> 00:17:38.799 Rachel Blackmore: So, apologies to Jules, we've kind of dived straight in, because people have got to go, but, are you okay with, the people who've got to go, Andy's got to go, and then Stephanie?
154 00:17:38.800 --> 00:17:44.509 Andrew Band: Okay, Rachel, thank you ever so much, and thanks for listening, and any comments, do feed back to us, yeah?
155 00:17:44.510 --> 00:17:47.510 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Pleasure. Thanks, Andy. See you soon. Cheers. Bye.
156 00:17:49.140 --> 00:17:59.149 Rachel Blackmore: Sorry, Jules, did you want to welcome us? And I'm just trying to see where… can you… can any… I'm saying that, can anybody see Jules now? I can't see Jules on here.
157 00:17:59.150 --> 00:18:00.530 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yeah, I'm definitely here.
158 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:05.280 Rachel Blackmore: Very good. Have you gone, why can't I see you?
159 00:18:05.280 --> 00:18:07.560 Joolz | Community Climate Action: It depends on your settings, there's a lot of people…
160 00:18:07.560 --> 00:18:08.950 Rachel Blackmore: There you go, I've got you. Yep.
161 00:18:08.950 --> 00:18:09.640 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yeah, cool.
162 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:10.230 Rachel Blackmore: Top of the pack.
163 00:18:10.230 --> 00:18:19.929 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Well, I'm… I'm… well, welcome, everyone. I'm delighted to see so many people here, and what better way to start than to get stuck in?
164 00:18:21.010 --> 00:18:31.749 Joolz | Community Climate Action: So really, really pleased, that Andrew had the time, energy, and focus to do that, do that presentation. It bodes really well for active travel in the area.
165 00:18:31.930 --> 00:18:51.190 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Of course, I'm not as familiar with geography as everyone else on the call, so I'm slightly mystified by locations and roads and this kind of thing, but it looked great. So, welcome to our third in a series of three preparatory Zooms for our Community Climate Action Planning
166 00:18:51.230 --> 00:18:52.639 Joolz | Community Climate Action: workshop.
167 00:18:53.230 --> 00:18:55.650 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Which is on the 11th of October.
168 00:18:56.760 --> 00:18:59.990 Joolz | Community Climate Action: and… For today, we're looking at transport.
169 00:19:00.670 --> 00:19:14.810 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Active travel, so we've already kind of kicked off. Energy, we're going to look at, a potential, a prospective site. And food, and food security, because who doesn't like… who doesn't like a good, a good meal? Who doesn't like eating?
170 00:19:14.890 --> 00:19:24.319 Joolz | Community Climate Action: So, first of all, I'm just gonna reiterate, and many people here will have already seen this, but I'm going to briefly share my screen.
171 00:19:25.320 --> 00:19:30.309 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And just kind of… kind of reiterate, ground us a little bit, so…
172 00:19:31.020 --> 00:19:33.900 Joolz | Community Climate Action: We know… we know why we're here.
173 00:19:34.740 --> 00:19:36.240 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Hopefully this will work.
174 00:19:40.120 --> 00:19:41.330 Joolz | Community Climate Action: There we go.
175 00:19:41.520 --> 00:19:42.650 Joolz | Community Climate Action: So…
176 00:19:42.840 --> 00:20:00.090 Joolz | Community Climate Action: the majority of people, if you've come to the previous, workshop, Zooms, will have already seen this, so I'm not going to labour the point, but I'm just going to skip through it. You know, our icebergs are melting, we're going to probably see a blue ocean event in our lifetime, which is going to exacerbate the crisis that we're in.
177 00:20:00.230 --> 00:20:18.740 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Reduce the reflectivity of the sun's rays, heat the ocean, and see a significant sea level rise. We're probably all familiar with the amount of CO2 being pumped into our atmosphere. We're at 417 parts per million, steadily going up, only increasing. 350 is safety.
178 00:20:19.360 --> 00:20:21.810 Joolz | Community Climate Action: We… All seen flooding.
179 00:20:22.170 --> 00:20:34.459 Joolz | Community Climate Action: In previous years. This year, we saw significant drought, and we've also had record wildfires in the UK, and if you've seen any of the news, Southern Europe was literally on fire.
180 00:20:35.570 --> 00:20:42.620 Joolz | Community Climate Action: So… How high will heating go? Well, 1.5 degrees is the… is set as a safe upper limit.
181 00:20:43.320 --> 00:20:59.420 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Not a target. You know, it's not what we're trying to achieve, we're trying to stay below the safe upper limit, and about 70% of scientists expect a rise, kind of locked in now, of at least 2 degrees, so that's what we're facing, or, sorry, 2.5 degrees, which is pretty cataclysmic.
182 00:20:59.420 --> 00:21:07.399 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Wet weather last year raised fears of harvest catastrophe, and threatened… Our food security.
183 00:21:07.790 --> 00:21:13.789 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And we're going to be talking about food, because that food insecurity and what happens with our weather
184 00:21:14.130 --> 00:21:16.989 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And our farmers leads to empty shelves.
185 00:21:17.130 --> 00:21:24.879 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Most importantly as well, it also leads to higher prices, and I was pretty devastated to learn that the hops harvest has been affected this year.
186 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:26.780 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Through drought.
187 00:21:27.140 --> 00:21:30.330 Joolz | Community Climate Action: So we can all expect more expensive beer.
188 00:21:30.510 --> 00:21:37.289 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And if there's no other reason to do… to work to stop this, then, keeping our price of a pint low.
189 00:21:37.470 --> 00:21:42.879 Joolz | Community Climate Action: So United Nations has declared code red for humanity.
190 00:21:43.990 --> 00:21:48.440 Joolz | Community Climate Action: So I'll just, again, pause a moment, let that sink in. Code red.
191 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:50.310 Joolz | Community Climate Action: for humanity.
192 00:21:51.050 --> 00:21:59.410 Joolz | Community Climate Action: So that's why we're all coming together. That's why we're here. So I thought we'd just start a little bit with reminding ourselves
193 00:22:00.060 --> 00:22:05.840 Joolz | Community Climate Action: From the heart, that we're here, we're here to save what we love, and build resilience in our.
194 00:22:05.840 --> 00:22:06.125 Martin Baxter: Oh.
195 00:22:06.410 --> 00:22:08.300 Joolz | Community Climate Action: To face the change that's here.
196 00:22:09.230 --> 00:22:16.159 Joolz | Community Climate Action: So without further ado, we'll probably kick off, and we've kind of kicked off… With transport.
197 00:22:16.610 --> 00:22:21.839 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And, in particular, we're looking at active travel.
198 00:22:23.090 --> 00:22:29.419 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And Bucks has a local cycling and walking and infrastructure plan. Andrew might have touched on that.
199 00:22:29.710 --> 00:22:35.560 Joolz | Community Climate Action: I think the County Council benefited from about $2 million in funding from the government's Active Travel Fund.
200 00:22:35.840 --> 00:22:48.300 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Which has kind of been and gone, in that… or it's in progress, so it's unlikely to be able to tap into that, but it's indicative of the kind of funding that is available moving forward.
201 00:22:48.540 --> 00:22:56.679 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And one thing to bear in mind when we're making these kind of plans is that these, you know, funds from government like this come and go.
202 00:22:57.330 --> 00:23:01.940 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And what we're looking at is maybe a decade-long plan.
203 00:23:02.670 --> 00:23:09.530 Joolz | Community Climate Action: So don't be too worried if we've missed the boat for this particular bit. There's probably still some conversations to be had.
204 00:23:09.700 --> 00:23:18.969 Joolz | Community Climate Action: But this kind of funding will reappear at some stage as well. So, if we get our ducks in a row now, we'll be ready for it in a potential future.
205 00:23:19.150 --> 00:23:21.200 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Potential future tranche.
206 00:23:21.750 --> 00:23:26.409 Joolz | Community Climate Action: So we've probably got a bit more information on travel, but I just want to highlight that
207 00:23:26.520 --> 00:23:38.199 Joolz | Community Climate Action: the benefits to us. You know, it's a lovely way to get around, in terms of active travel, walking, and cycling. It reduces congestion, even in high traffic areas. Reduced air pollution.
208 00:23:38.520 --> 00:23:44.890 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Higher quality public areas, which are made for walking and cycling. Better physical, mental, and social health.
209 00:23:45.180 --> 00:23:50.620 Joolz | Community Climate Action: In our towns and, respective villages. And reduced carbon emissions.
210 00:23:51.130 --> 00:23:53.399 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And increased economic growth.
211 00:23:53.540 --> 00:24:00.830 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Actually helps if you can, you know, make, make a streetcar free, particularly in town centres and what have you.
212 00:24:01.100 --> 00:24:12.979 Joolz | Community Climate Action: So we can move on. That's just a little bit of an intro there. And Rachel, you highlighted a couple of people very helpfully on the agenda that might want to talk about travel.
213 00:24:12.980 --> 00:24:17.790 Rachel Blackmore: Obviously, Andrew's dived straight in there, and I wonder if Daniel, or Alan.
214 00:24:17.790 --> 00:24:19.609 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yeah, Damian.
215 00:24:19.610 --> 00:24:21.040 Rachel Blackmore: Gonna come in next, because he's also.
216 00:24:21.040 --> 00:24:22.789 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Very damn you. Thank you.
217 00:24:22.790 --> 00:24:28.949 Rachel Blackmore: After that, we'll have Alan, with CarShare. Thanks. Thanks, Jules. Thanks, Damien. Over to you.
218 00:24:28.950 --> 00:24:35.370 Damian Campbell: Okay, well, I'm going to start, if I can share my screen, but it's gone. Where's that gone?
219 00:24:37.660 --> 00:24:39.540 Damian Campbell: Oh yeah, share screen.
220 00:24:39.810 --> 00:24:42.240 Damian Campbell: Can people see this?
221 00:24:44.450 --> 00:24:45.300 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yes.
222 00:24:45.660 --> 00:24:50.850 Damian Campbell: Okay, good. Right, I'm going to, start… with…
223 00:24:51.100 --> 00:24:53.700 Damian Campbell: A cycle ride I actually do quite often.
224 00:24:53.810 --> 00:24:57.519 Damian Campbell: Now, this is a loop round Alesbury. Can people see that clearly enough?
225 00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:03.140 Damian Campbell: from West… from West Interval to Wendover, along the canal.
226 00:25:03.280 --> 00:25:06.970 Damian Campbell: Down to Putnam, round to Arla, the
227 00:25:06.980 --> 00:25:23.910 Damian Campbell: Aylesbury Arm, rounds Kingsbrook to Beerton, round Watermead, the new St Peter's Way, all the way up to Berryfields, and on the new roads, new cycleways that Bucks have done, all the way back to Western Turville. Now, it's a…
228 00:25:23.910 --> 00:25:30.410 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Sorry to interrupt. We can also see, sort of, half your screen in terms of tabs, so you might want to make that.
229 00:25:30.410 --> 00:25:34.720 Damian Campbell: Yeah, I'll tell you what, I'll make this… I'll make this… Is that better?
230 00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:35.860 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yeah, there we go, great.
231 00:25:35.860 --> 00:25:43.810 Damian Campbell: Okay, so… All the way back to Western Turnville. Now, that's a 43 kilometer
232 00:25:44.050 --> 00:25:50.720 Damian Campbell: Right, so I do this quite often, usually when my dear lady is listening to the archers on a Sunday morning.
233 00:25:51.140 --> 00:25:55.360 Damian Campbell: But the important thing is, it's completely off-road, except for…
234 00:25:55.530 --> 00:25:59.919 Damian Campbell: The Marrow Way, World's End Lane, and Halton Lane, which are all part of…
235 00:26:00.190 --> 00:26:06.649 Damian Campbell: West interval. Now, I'm going to jump on this presentation immediately to this slide.
236 00:26:07.370 --> 00:26:17.899 Damian Campbell: to show exactly how much Western Terville is disconnected from all of the wonderful stuff that Bucks have done. Let me just go back to Bucks.
237 00:26:18.860 --> 00:26:24.269 Damian Campbell: Here is all the stuff they've done. They've got the gemstone pathway around Aylesbury.
238 00:26:24.570 --> 00:26:37.430 Damian Campbell: They, since 2021, when COVID started, they've done new cycle routes in South Court, they've done the Greenway extensions to Wadston, they've done all sorts of things, especially in Wendover.
239 00:26:37.930 --> 00:26:47.850 Damian Campbell: I reckon, on a quick tab, it's about £5 million that's been spent on cycle improvements around the Aylesbury area.
240 00:26:48.270 --> 00:26:53.280 Damian Campbell: The only… Place that hasn't seen any funding at all.
241 00:26:53.840 --> 00:26:55.449 Damian Campbell: is Weston Tarville.
242 00:26:55.840 --> 00:26:59.760 Damian Campbell: So, we've got the Amber Way from Aylesbury to Wendover.
243 00:26:59.800 --> 00:27:10.919 Damian Campbell: We've got the canal, newly furbished tollpath to Halton, but the canal carries on to Aston Clinton, and we've got the Aston Clinton Cycleway, you can see it there.
244 00:27:10.930 --> 00:27:20.090 Damian Campbell: all the way back, you know, a plethora of routes to take once you get back near Aylesbury. But West Turville isn't connected by any of them.
245 00:27:20.150 --> 00:27:22.909 Damian Campbell: Now, that's a surprise, because…
246 00:27:23.250 --> 00:27:36.449 Damian Campbell: As part of the, work that Bucks have done, we've got all sorts of things, like safe cycling developer obligations. So think, Hamden Fields here.
247 00:27:36.450 --> 00:27:49.569 Damian Campbell: Developers must consider how their site may extend existing routes, integrate cycle routes, and provide safe, direct routes between destinations in the Vale and, I'm going to emphasize, adjacent areas.
248 00:27:50.630 --> 00:28:00.819 Damian Campbell: Bucks themselves have also done some work in Western Turville. Here's a thing I received from, John, Clark of Bucks.
249 00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:03.520 Damian Campbell: Showing what their thoughts are.
250 00:28:03.660 --> 00:28:09.059 Damian Campbell: Now, what they show is that there's a shared use path along the marrow way.
251 00:28:09.530 --> 00:28:11.960 Damian Campbell: And a bit of World's End Lane.
252 00:28:12.230 --> 00:28:21.390 Damian Campbell: And the Greenway, which I haven't mentioned yet, but has been mentioned by other people, will come through Western Turville all the way to the canal.
253 00:28:21.980 --> 00:28:27.249 Damian Campbell: That's what it says on the Bucks Council website, how we're extending the Buckinghamshire Greenway.
254 00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:37.149 Damian Campbell: I've also had emails from Jonathan Clarke himself saying, I know you're upset about this, don't worry, when Hamden Fields all comes through, it'll be fine.
255 00:28:37.430 --> 00:28:41.450 Damian Campbell: Okay, so here is the Hamden Fields Master Plan.
256 00:28:42.740 --> 00:28:45.170 Damian Campbell: And… well, it doesn't.
257 00:28:45.700 --> 00:28:58.289 Damian Campbell: We've got the new Bedgrove, improvements, which is about 1.3 million pounds, which is wonderful, because it will take the amber way from turn furlong, and people
258 00:28:58.530 --> 00:29:12.049 Damian Campbell: See my cursor there? Turn furlong down this new path to the top of Hamden Fields, then there's a cycleway through Hamden Fields to connect in a prioritized way west.
259 00:29:13.270 --> 00:29:27.720 Damian Campbell: But there's no Greenway route, as the websites promise. There's no direct safe cycle way on the plans to adjacent West Interval. You can't get much more adjacent to Hamdenfields than West Interval.
260 00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:30.459 Damian Campbell: And there's no shared use on the marrowing.
261 00:29:31.050 --> 00:29:38.680 Damian Campbell: Now… That's an issue for me, not because of my cycling.
262 00:29:38.990 --> 00:29:42.210 Damian Campbell: But because we are asking our children
263 00:29:42.350 --> 00:29:47.020 Damian Campbell: If we want them to cycle to school, we're asking them to…
264 00:29:47.740 --> 00:29:58.789 Damian Campbell: to make a choice between risking life and limb on these roads, now here's the Marrow Way to Amber Way for Stoke Mandeville Station, Aylesbury and Schools.
265 00:29:58.990 --> 00:30:02.649 Damian Campbell: We've got World's End Lane to the Amber Way for Wendover.
266 00:30:02.770 --> 00:30:04.840 Damian Campbell: The collet, schools, and the canal.
267 00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:11.080 Damian Campbell: We've got Western Road for Aston Clinton, Schools The Park. I go there once a week, and I pedal along there.
268 00:30:11.360 --> 00:30:18.560 Damian Campbell: And the bridge, hilariously, on Halton Lane for access to the canal. Do people know all these places?
269 00:30:19.280 --> 00:30:23.790 Damian Campbell: just sort of nod and, look appreciative.
270 00:30:23.790 --> 00:30:24.460 jean cowell: Yes.
271 00:30:24.680 --> 00:30:31.150 Damian Campbell: So we're asking… whoops, no, not that. We're asking our children to choose between
272 00:30:31.470 --> 00:30:33.600 Damian Campbell: Risking life and limb on these roads?
273 00:30:34.140 --> 00:30:38.399 Damian Campbell: Or… Risking being arrested for cycling on the pavement.
274 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:48.169 Damian Campbell: And I remember a conversation I had with my own daughter, when I instructed her to use the Merroway pavement to get to Aylesbury.
275 00:30:48.560 --> 00:31:00.360 Damian Campbell: Because she was getting wiped out by traffic on the Marilley. And she said, yeah, but Dad, it's illegal, I'll get arrested. She was actually more worried about getting arrested than getting knocked off her bike.
276 00:31:00.830 --> 00:31:04.640 Damian Campbell: So… Given that there are no
277 00:31:04.970 --> 00:31:08.539 Damian Campbell: indications of any funding coming from Hamden Fields.
278 00:31:08.970 --> 00:31:15.079 Damian Campbell: with Rachel's help, we're putting together a… An early morning event.
279 00:31:15.600 --> 00:31:19.530 Damian Campbell: For people like the Bucks Highway team.
280 00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:32.060 Damian Campbell: for a cycle ride around West Interval, so that people can actually experience firsthand what it feels like to be a schoolchild on a bike, going up the Marriway.
281 00:31:33.270 --> 00:31:36.339 Damian Campbell: Going up Weston Road to Aston Clinton.
282 00:31:36.500 --> 00:31:43.600 Damian Campbell: We're going to try and go to the greenway route to the canal, but at the moment, that's blocked about here.
283 00:31:44.110 --> 00:31:47.649 Damian Campbell: So we'll come this way, and go down World's End Lane.
284 00:31:48.040 --> 00:31:52.150 Damian Campbell: And along Halton Lane to… whoops, no.
285 00:31:53.750 --> 00:32:00.500 Damian Campbell: to the canal. And then we'll pier down the, greenway, back down from the canal.
286 00:32:00.970 --> 00:32:04.790 Damian Campbell: Now… Here's a list of questions.
287 00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:08.670 Damian Campbell: Would people today choose to cycle
288 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:18.520 Damian Campbell: Legally, from West Interval to any surrounding cycleways as per the Aylesbury Garden Town Master Plan, the Vale of Aylesbury Local Plan.
289 00:32:18.690 --> 00:32:21.880 Damian Campbell: And the local cycling and walker infrastructure plan.
290 00:32:23.800 --> 00:32:29.069 Damian Campbell: I hope people agree that nobody in their right mind would do that day in, day out.
291 00:32:29.430 --> 00:32:34.689 Damian Campbell: So, It's not. Why will this change… will this change under current plans?
292 00:32:35.360 --> 00:32:53.089 Damian Campbell: Secondly, why does the Hamden Fields Master Plan not connect Cycleways to West Interval, given that the development will include a route alignment for the Greenway through the site, which will link West Interval and the canal? Says so on Buck's website, how we're extending the Buckinghamshire Greenway.
293 00:32:53.700 --> 00:33:02.590 Damian Campbell: This site should provide safe and direct routes between adjacent areas. Again, it's all BUTS policy and documents.
294 00:33:02.700 --> 00:33:06.260 Damian Campbell: And emailed to myself from John Clark.
295 00:33:06.450 --> 00:33:14.980 Damian Campbell: Bucks are very aware of the situation and have been working to connect the village more conveniently for cyclists and the new developments.
296 00:33:15.090 --> 00:33:20.870 Damian Campbell: Well, that's great, except that… The plan, as,
297 00:33:21.340 --> 00:33:26.310 Damian Campbell: Andy was saying earlier, doesn't both reflect what's being said.
298 00:33:27.290 --> 00:33:29.780 Damian Campbell: So we're going to have this,
299 00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:37.410 Damian Campbell: this experience of people invited to come round all these places in Western Terville, and we hope
300 00:33:37.620 --> 00:33:49.399 Damian Campbell: that that might open eyes a bit, and we get some more sympathetic hearing for funding for cycling the Western Turnville. Now, all of these places are places within the Climate Action Group
301 00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:59.589 Damian Campbell: that are part of the community. Aston Clinton, Stock Mandeville Way, Aylesbury, Wendover. So all of these are directly
302 00:33:59.860 --> 00:34:08.640 Damian Campbell: concerned with connecting Western Turville, which is at the moment not connected to anywhere, with the rest of the community.
303 00:34:08.900 --> 00:34:13.280 Damian Campbell: Okay, I've probably said all I need to say there. Rachel, do you want to take it from here?
304 00:34:14.699 --> 00:34:27.339 Rachel Blackmore: Thank you very much, Damien, and just to say, I have invited those key people, A to tonight and B, to the workshop, so we'll… I hope that they can come and we can use other councillors to nudge them.
305 00:34:27.339 --> 00:34:41.529 Rachel Blackmore: yeah, that's as far as we've got so far. So thanks so much for that, Damien, and anybody else want to have any more input, on cycling, or, do we want to, move on to car share? Yeah, Sean.
306 00:34:41.530 --> 00:34:56.219 Sean McCarthy: Can I say something very, very quickly? About, there seems to be, sort of, two types of cycle routes. One's the kind of motorway, that gets built because HS2 is doing something.
307 00:34:56.219 --> 00:35:04.400 Sean McCarthy: And that's… can often be for, you know, for pleasure or whatever it is. But I… but I think what Damien's talking about is the,
308 00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:23.309 Sean McCarthy: you know, a necessity cycle route from school to shopping area, or from one village to another village. And I think it might be important to distinguish between what's a nice route and what's a needed route. I don't know how that changes the argument, if it does.
309 00:35:23.310 --> 00:35:32.989 Sean McCarthy: But, and the second thought, which is slightly different, is about maintenance. And, certainly the upper ickville icknealed
310 00:35:33.290 --> 00:35:42.350 Sean McCarthy: Road, where the pavement is meant to be a cycle route, is not cycle passable, because it's got overhanging trees and branches and
311 00:35:42.350 --> 00:35:54.279 Sean McCarthy: potholes and things like this. So, maybe on a map it shows a cycle route, but on… on… in practice it doesn't. So, it's… it's kind of collecting information about that might be useful.
312 00:35:55.370 --> 00:36:10.579 Rachel Blackmore: Yes, very much so, thank you, and it's, and also, as regards practical, and, I think both is wanted, isn't it, to get to places, and obviously if they can be across country, Jules was talking about, it…
313 00:36:10.580 --> 00:36:25.309 Rachel Blackmore: being easier sometimes to upgrade footpaths, to cycleways than to get a completely new cycle path made. But in an ideal world, there'll all be a little distance from the cars, and, as in, I know we always cite
314 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:36.830 Rachel Blackmore: the Netherlands, but as in the Netherlands, you know, the further from the cars, the better, really. So, that would be what we're looking to, to both enjoy and practical, and for leisure, to be the same thing, really.
315 00:36:39.510 --> 00:36:42.609 Rachel Blackmore: Did you want to say any more on that, Damien? Are you still with us?
316 00:36:43.180 --> 00:36:47.930 Damian Campbell: Yeah, still here. No, for me, it's…
317 00:36:48.170 --> 00:36:59.970 Damian Campbell: I'm old enough and ugly enough to be able to cope with people arguing with me if they don't like me cycling on the pavement, which I do a lot, because the road is too busy or dangerous or whatever.
318 00:37:00.230 --> 00:37:19.259 Damian Campbell: But our kids shouldn't be put in that position, and that's kind of where I'm coming from. I want my kids and my grandkids to be able to cycle to school safely. It's not much to ask, especially given all that's been going on in the Aylesbury cycleways, etc.
319 00:37:19.460 --> 00:37:22.340 Damian Campbell: That's… that's where I'm coming from.
320 00:37:22.640 --> 00:37:30.100 Rachel Blackmore: Great, thank you, Damien. And sorry, Justine, Stuart, and Martin, I see you've got your hands up, and I'm not sure who went first there. Was it you, Stuart?
321 00:37:33.340 --> 00:37:36.349 Rachel Blackmore: Or Justin, as… oh yeah, great, thanks, Stuart.
322 00:37:37.150 --> 00:37:55.990 Stuart holcroft: Yeah, sorry, obviously brand new to this environment, I'm just about to put a chat in the thing as well. So, I'm a Halton Parish Councillor, and this is the first I've heard of this, this, integrated cycling route that you're talking about. So, a couple of the areas that we'd like to incorporate as well is the route along Airfield Road.
323 00:37:55.990 --> 00:38:13.290 Stuart holcroft: which goes from Halton down to Western Turville, because that is a death trap, which is used by runners, walkers, and cyclists. And if that was part of the overall plan as well, that would be fantastic. And we also need to consider, as well as cycle routes on the Perch Bridge, which is the bridge which is very narrow.
324 00:38:13.300 --> 00:38:25.080 Stuart holcroft: is a death trap for cyclists, it's also deadly for pedestrians as well. So, in terms of the cycle route and way for cyclists, that'd be great to incorporate as well. Thank you.
325 00:38:25.510 --> 00:38:30.730 Rachel Blackmore: Great, thanks, thanks, Stuart. Martin, or Helen, you got yours?
326 00:38:30.730 --> 00:38:45.220 Martin Baxter: Yes, I'll just say to welcome what Stuart had to say, and Damon and Sean, as a resident of Western Turbil. It's not just Western Turville that needs connecting. We need to make sure that all the villages are connected.
327 00:38:45.220 --> 00:38:57.609 Martin Baxter: It's starting from that principle which I think our speakers have underlined. You start from the needs of the individual, not where it's convenient, and try and make the two match.
328 00:38:57.850 --> 00:39:07.660 Martin Baxter: So… so that's… that's the first thing. The second thing is that, just earlier on, there was a mention that Box would say, what, what's in the…
329 00:39:07.730 --> 00:39:11.340 Martin Baxter: What's in the, legislation?
330 00:39:11.390 --> 00:39:28.459 Martin Baxter: I don't think we need to take too much notice of the legislation. When we come to making things fit, making them suitable, that's the argument we need to use with HS2, and as far as I understand, they will take that argument.
331 00:39:28.670 --> 00:39:36.430 Martin Baxter: So, what I'm saying is that if there are tracks, if we can adapt tracks, as I think Sean was saying.
332 00:39:36.670 --> 00:39:46.630 Martin Baxter: Damon was saying, that there are practical ways forward, that's the way to do it. It may not fit the legislation, but that doesn't matter. It's actually what works.
333 00:39:51.660 --> 00:39:54.649 Rachel Blackmore: Thanks, Martin. Yeah, I agree.
334 00:39:54.910 --> 00:39:57.609 Rachel Blackmore: Am I muted. Justine?
335 00:39:58.750 --> 00:40:15.860 Justine Hamer: Yep, just to quickly add that, we are very aware of it in, Wendover in certain spots, especially, young people trying to go to school, and we are doing quite a lot of, action days, and quite,
336 00:40:17.180 --> 00:40:29.069 Justine Hamer: yeah, proper action with the council, with the parish council, with Bucks Council, with local parents, and with the schools, to try and sort of highlight the issue of, please don't…
337 00:40:29.090 --> 00:40:45.569 Justine Hamer: Please don't at least drive right to the doorway. Please drop off somewhere a little bit further away, so it's not quite so intense on Wharf Road, Manor Road, that kids might be able to cycle up there at some point. At the moment, people won't even let their children walk down the pavement.
338 00:40:45.570 --> 00:40:53.439 Justine Hamer: it's, worrying… that worrying. So we have an Action Day on the 22nd, which Francis is working on as well.
339 00:40:53.440 --> 00:41:05.260 Justine Hamer: And we're literally closing. We've applied for a Place Street permit, and we're closing partial parts of the road, and we're all getting trained up in traffic management, we're gonna get lots of reviews.
340 00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:20.709 Justine Hamer: And… but yes, we are putting clear signals out there that we're not going to, sort of, stop with this now, and we're taking away the drop-off points, and so it's even harder, and we're suggesting alternative routes to drop off at.
341 00:41:20.710 --> 00:41:33.119 Justine Hamer: And some of the parents, when we surveyed them, were up for car sharing, were up for different systems, not everybody was… but, you know, some of them come from 5 miles away, and public transport costs a lot, so…
342 00:41:33.370 --> 00:41:39.099 Justine Hamer: There's reasons on both sides, but we are… we just wanted to highlight we're tackling… trying to tackle that.
343 00:41:40.290 --> 00:41:42.220 Justine Hamer: It's probably going to be a long journey.
344 00:41:53.190 --> 00:41:54.420 Justine Hamer: Right, chill?
345 00:41:54.420 --> 00:41:55.500 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Oh, you're open.
346 00:41:56.040 --> 00:41:56.439 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Right, Joe.
347 00:41:56.440 --> 00:42:01.079 Rachel Blackmore: Over to you, Ellie. Sorry, I was just gonna.
348 00:42:01.080 --> 00:42:15.959 Eli Kling [Wendover]: I haven't been on this scene for quite a while, because I've been traveling and working, but at the time, I think it was, what, 10, 15 years ago, I was involved in the Get Wind of Recycling group, and I find it really amusing that you are
349 00:42:16.590 --> 00:42:24.570 Eli Kling [Wendover]: complaining about how much we have managed to achieve at the time. It was an uphill struggle, because it was against
350 00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:31.340 Eli Kling [Wendover]: Clear-voiced, objection of the… at the time.
351 00:42:31.500 --> 00:42:36.920 Eli Kling [Wendover]: the county councillor. She was really against it, she didn't understand why
352 00:42:37.240 --> 00:42:42.040 Eli Kling [Wendover]: Children need to cycle to school, nobody will use it. That's the quote of what she said.
353 00:42:43.490 --> 00:42:53.359 Eli Kling [Wendover]: the way that it managed to work is because in AVDC, and it shows you how long it was ago, there was a group that was dedicated for
354 00:42:54.180 --> 00:43:01.119 Eli Kling [Wendover]: Cycling and cycling routes, and they really used the fact that we had a community group
355 00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:06.509 Eli Kling [Wendover]: That was campaigning to make their case to do staff, and we also got
356 00:43:06.690 --> 00:43:19.530 Eli Kling [Wendover]: You forgot to mention the cycling parking in the train station, and part of the business case for the lifts was that. So, there's a lot that could be done, so don't lose half.
357 00:43:19.660 --> 00:43:33.459 Eli Kling [Wendover]: And it was just cycle rights, as you were describing, getting the awareness, having a group working, and then I'm sure you will find people within the county council that will be more than happy to latch on to…
358 00:43:34.830 --> 00:43:36.490 Eli Kling [Wendover]: Guns up effort.
359 00:43:38.940 --> 00:43:45.529 Frances Tipper: Yeah, just want to say, Ellie, I hope… I don't think anyone was complaining about all the work you did.
360 00:43:45.530 --> 00:43:48.199 Eli Kling [Wendover]: No, no, no, no, I think we…
361 00:43:48.200 --> 00:43:51.229 Frances Tipper: I'm really grateful for everything that you did, because you were.
362 00:43:51.230 --> 00:43:56.600 Eli Kling [Wendover]: I didn't do anything, it was many other people in the team, I was… Just coming to the meetings.
363 00:43:56.620 --> 00:44:04.480 Frances Tipper: Yeah, but you started it, and I'm sorry you had so much opposition, but I think we may have… we may have support in the Council with Peter Strack on there.
364 00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:17.320 Eli Kling [Wendover]: No, there was loads of support. I mean, the schools were really for it. They had even, at the time, the organized breakfast that they gave only to kids that came with… on a bicycle, for instance.
365 00:44:17.460 --> 00:44:34.389 Eli Kling [Wendover]: things like that. I mean, all the teachers on all the campus were really for it, especially because of the, you know, people coming with cars, and county… there were people in the county council, you know, in AVDC that really were for it. It was just particular people.
366 00:44:34.620 --> 00:44:42.350 Eli Kling [Wendover]: go against it. I didn't understand why people need to cycle. I didn't understand why I need to convince people that cycle is good. Didn't get it.
367 00:44:47.560 --> 00:44:50.510 Rachel Blackmore: Hopefully that culture is changing.
368 00:44:50.510 --> 00:44:55.849 Eli Kling [Wendover]: Onwards, more and more people joining your movement, Ellie, as the years are going by. Yeah.
369 00:44:55.930 --> 00:45:09.980 Rachel Blackmore: Oh, that's what… that's wonderful, that's a huge amount of input on cycling. That's really encouraging that we'll make some progress. Shall we move on now to, you, Alan, with the… with your, car sharing and, what you've planned?
370 00:45:10.500 --> 00:45:11.940 Rachel Blackmore: And have done.
371 00:45:12.290 --> 00:45:18.450 Alan Thawley: Yes, yes, please. So, thank you everyone for having me. Just to introduce myself.
372 00:45:18.680 --> 00:45:35.389 Alan Thawley: I am a parish councillor in Hadnham, not too far away from you, where I'm chair of the Climate Emergency Committee. So we declared a climate emergency when all sorts of councils were doing it, and came up with a plan, and obviously transport
373 00:45:35.510 --> 00:45:44.350 Alan Thawley: was one of the areas of interest. And I'm a huge advocate for active travel and public transport, so it's great to see all this.
374 00:45:44.570 --> 00:45:49.200 Alan Thawley: all this pressure building. But…
375 00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:52.959 Alan Thawley: Another part of the puzzle is obviously
376 00:45:53.040 --> 00:46:00.129 Alan Thawley: private cars and electrification. So that is… is something we wanted to…
377 00:46:00.160 --> 00:46:13.380 Alan Thawley: facilitate, and I know it's, can be slightly controversial amongst deeper greens, the idea that, if we all just switch to electric cars, then that'll be fine.
378 00:46:13.540 --> 00:46:17.130 Alan Thawley: Because it… there are lots of things that it doesn't address
379 00:46:17.340 --> 00:46:21.040 Alan Thawley: Such as, congestion,
380 00:46:22.100 --> 00:46:25.660 Alan Thawley: Emissions from manufacture and that sort of thing.
381 00:46:26.150 --> 00:46:34.069 Alan Thawley: So, the model we decided to investigate was a car club, which,
382 00:46:34.380 --> 00:46:42.030 Alan Thawley: I would imagine a lot of you are familiar with, you find them often in big cities, which is basically a,
383 00:46:42.240 --> 00:46:47.409 Alan Thawley: a centrally organized, short-term rental thing, so typically you will go
384 00:46:47.890 --> 00:47:01.519 Alan Thawley: to a car on the street, you'll book it via an app, and you can hire it for as little as an hour, or as long as you want, really. So it's designed to replace the use of a private car.
385 00:47:02.250 --> 00:47:16.590 Alan Thawley: And they've calculated… there are various calculations, but they calculate that one shared vehicle in one of these things can eliminate 10, or 14, or whatever number it is, number of privately owned cars. So obviously.
386 00:47:16.860 --> 00:47:34.840 Alan Thawley: If you look at that, then the, emissions from manufacturing all these cars are divided by 10 or 14, depending on how many people can share the one car, so that's, that's a huge benefit. We looked at the idea of setting up a community
387 00:47:35.170 --> 00:47:39.649 Alan Thawley: Run car club, but, the more we looked into it, the more…
388 00:47:39.790 --> 00:47:55.309 Alan Thawley: it appeared to be a huge amount of work. Plus, in recent years, there have been some successful models, but in recent years, insurance for these things has become incredibly tricky. So, a lot of them are now under threat, and people are not setting up more.
389 00:47:55.580 --> 00:48:09.849 Alan Thawley: So we… we basically went… went out to a provider. There was a local hire company who decided they wanted to get into electric vehicles, and so they decided to run a car club for us.
390 00:48:09.950 --> 00:48:19.059 Alan Thawley: Unfortunately, after about a year, or just under a year, they realized that they'd possibly bitten off more than they could chew, and this wasn't,
391 00:48:19.180 --> 00:48:24.499 Alan Thawley: It wasn't… it wasn't their core business, and they… they weren't able to make it work.
392 00:48:24.790 --> 00:48:31.239 Alan Thawley: So we were looking around for a replacement, and we came across a company called Zimbal.
393 00:48:31.240 --> 00:48:46.960 Alan Thawley: who are… they don't call themselves a car club, actually, they call themselves a mobility as a service provider. But the idea is the same, is that shared vehicles, 100% electric, which was important to the parish council, obviously, because of the emissions reductions.
394 00:48:47.170 --> 00:48:53.880 Alan Thawley: But the unique selling point of Zimbal is that the car comes to you, rather than you having to
395 00:48:54.410 --> 00:48:58.410 Alan Thawley: Go and pick it up from a designated space, which is,
396 00:48:59.310 --> 00:49:12.399 Alan Thawley: which in more, rural areas, where people live more… more spread out, is obviously a huge advantage. And it gets you closer to the convenience of owning the car that's always ready
397 00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:24.250 Alan Thawley: in waiting in your drive, and that's… that is the tough nut to crack, the, the addiction we have to break, I suppose. Yeah, so,
398 00:49:24.530 --> 00:49:39.689 Alan Thawley: that is what we've been doing. The parish council came to an agreement with Zimbal that we would support them initially with the idea that, as and when the service broke even, then the support would,
399 00:49:40.290 --> 00:49:44.000 Alan Thawley: Would fall away, and ultimately, the idea
400 00:49:44.260 --> 00:49:49.419 Alan Thawley: is that it should actually generate some revenue for the parish council.
401 00:49:49.700 --> 00:50:01.669 Alan Thawley: And we've been going for something like 5 months now, and, early results are pretty encouraging. The, the list of subscribers is growing, sometimes…
402 00:50:01.670 --> 00:50:19.380 Alan Thawley: We've had… we have two… two vehicles, two, MG5s, which are the electric estates. I don't… you may well have seen them around. So we have two of those in the village, and sometimes, we've had both of those booked out, and we've actually had to bring another car over from Banbury, which is where Zimbal are based.
403 00:50:19.470 --> 00:50:23.700 Alan Thawley: Because a third user wanted it, so, it's… it's growing nicely.
404 00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:27.280 Alan Thawley: For full disclosure.
405 00:50:27.770 --> 00:50:35.760 Alan Thawley: I should say that, as well as being a parish councillor, I am also currently handling the deliveries for Zimbal.
406 00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:48.840 Alan Thawley: The idea is that as it grows, it will provide, a reasonable, level of employment for someone. But currently, because we're in the, the beginnings of it,
407 00:50:49.690 --> 00:51:03.370 Alan Thawley: someone who is very flexible is what's required, and it turned out that that person was me. So, yeah, full disclosure, I am employed by them, and I'm also employing them as a parish councillor, which is
408 00:51:03.510 --> 00:51:08.920 Alan Thawley: I'm assured it's all above board, but, it's a slightly strange situation.
409 00:51:09.200 --> 00:51:15.500 Alan Thawley: Anyway, so, that's base… the basic outline of it. Does anyone have any questions?
410 00:51:15.740 --> 00:51:35.309 Rachel Blackmore: Yeah, that's super fantastic to hear that they're growing. So, does that mean that we might be able to start one in Wendover? Would they have capacity in the reasonable, short future to be able to expand, do you think, out in our direction? Zimbal?
411 00:51:35.310 --> 00:51:52.659 Alan Thawley: Absolutely. So, I mean, it would be, obviously, a negotiation with them, but, the idea is that when they… when they signed a contract with us, with Haddon Parish Council, they then put an order in for these two extra vehicles, and were able to deploy them within
412 00:51:53.150 --> 00:52:00.729 Alan Thawley: I don't know, probably a couple of months, because they need telematics fitted as well, but, yes, they can move pretty fast.
413 00:52:01.140 --> 00:52:04.600 Alan Thawley: You also need charging infrastructure as another thing, but,
414 00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:15.000 Alan Thawley: that may not be a problem with the, with community buildings, certainly in Spoke Mandeville, I'm told, that's got a big solar array that they're looking for off-takers, so…
415 00:52:16.390 --> 00:52:29.329 Alan Thawley: Yes, it could move quite fast, is the, is the honest answer. And also, I mean, it… what inspired me about this project was that you had a collaboration between four neighbouring parishes, so obviously.
416 00:52:29.390 --> 00:52:44.159 Alan Thawley: With a car club, you… it would be restricted to one community, whereas with the delivery model, it could be kind of based centrally, and then delivered out to people in all four parishes, so you'd have a much bigger support base, and also, a much bigger
417 00:52:44.300 --> 00:52:51.360 Alan Thawley: Potential, support from four different parish councils instead of it all being on one, council's shoulders.
418 00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:54.409 Rachel Blackmore: Yeah, like us, that's amazing. Jules?
419 00:52:55.200 --> 00:53:00.410 Joolz | Community Climate Action: I just want to say how exciting, Alan. I was wondering if you could put a link to the company in the chat.
420 00:53:00.590 --> 00:53:09.790 Alan Thawley: Yes, absolutely. I'm on a phone, but bear with me, and I'll… I'll stab at it, probably when I've finished taking questions yet.
421 00:53:09.790 --> 00:53:29.449 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yeah, sure, thank you. I mean, there's a couple of great things there. Number one, distributed networks of production in terms of community energy. Always looking for off-take and storage, so that could really help. And the idea that as a… I don't know quite what the legal structure is, but if some surplus can go to contribute to
422 00:53:29.620 --> 00:53:43.840 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Parish coffers, that's also really helpful, because then, of course, as respective parish councillors, we… councils, we can afford to invest in psychopaths, and this kind of thing, so lots of… lots of really exciting things there, thank you.
423 00:53:44.620 --> 00:53:47.140 Rachel Blackmore: Yeah, amazing. Malcolm.
424 00:53:49.380 --> 00:53:51.120 Rachel Blackmore: You're muted at the main.
425 00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:57.390 Malcolm Allison: Okay, just a tedious question. Delivery, how does that work?
426 00:53:57.980 --> 00:54:01.310 Alan Thawley: The way it works is, the…
427 00:54:01.450 --> 00:54:12.369 Alan Thawley: the Zimbal delivery guy, me, will drive over with, in the car to your house with an electric Brompton in the boot.
428 00:54:13.340 --> 00:54:30.429 Alan Thawley: leave the car, give you a briefing. For a first-time user, you get a briefing just to, kind of familiarise yourself with the electric car and all the differences, and then I drive off. Also, sorry, cycle off. So, clearly, all these cycle paths you're planning would be quite useful for that.
429 00:54:32.370 --> 00:54:33.060 Malcolm Allison: Thank you.
430 00:54:33.490 --> 00:54:36.299 Alan Thawley: And the same in reverse, obviously, when it gets picked up.
431 00:54:37.630 --> 00:54:41.850 Rachel Blackmore: So amazing. So many wins in there, aren't there? Yeah.
432 00:54:42.220 --> 00:54:49.389 Rachel Blackmore: Any more on cycling before we move over to Paul and Ennik? Because this links nicely, of course, with energy,
433 00:54:49.590 --> 00:54:58.070 Rachel Blackmore: A new energy in… our area, generating energy in our area. Thanks so much, Alan. Are you there, Paul?
434 00:54:59.210 --> 00:55:00.230 Paul Moring: Can't see anyone.
435 00:55:00.620 --> 00:55:01.740 Rachel Blackmore: Hands…
436 00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:09.949 Paul Moring: So, yeah, as you said, Rachel, linking to NGR. I guess before starting that, though, just…
437 00:55:10.270 --> 00:55:16.489 Paul Moring: For those that don't know, Wendover's one of the Buck's pilot sites for on-street chargers.
438 00:55:17.240 --> 00:55:20.460 Paul Moring: For people who don't have off-street,
439 00:55:20.640 --> 00:55:24.900 Paul Moring: Parking or garage for… to do charging of their own car, so…
440 00:55:25.010 --> 00:55:33.830 Paul Moring: That is, in the launch phase at the moment. So, charging points are appearing around Wendover,
441 00:55:33.980 --> 00:55:43.010 Paul Moring: But, yes, hopefully Community Energy will be able to charge the Zimbal fleet in the future. So this is very much an idea, there's no…
442 00:55:43.550 --> 00:55:50.339 Paul Moring: slides or analysis or anything at this stage. It's, a germ of an idea, which is…
443 00:55:50.900 --> 00:56:04.210 Paul Moring: that, some of you may know about the, long, redundant sewage treatment facility, on the outskirts of Wendover, on the Aylesbury Road, next to the
444 00:56:04.490 --> 00:56:10.789 Paul Moring: Shell of the… pub that's had various names, most recently Village Gate.
445 00:56:11.080 --> 00:56:15.680 Paul Moring: But there's a site there that's, as far as we know, still Thames Water owned.
446 00:56:16.090 --> 00:56:20.340 Paul Moring: Best estimate is 10-ish acres.
447 00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:27.850 Paul Moring: And… It's… contaminated land.
448 00:56:28.730 --> 00:56:31.040 Paul Moring: to a large extent, so…
449 00:56:31.520 --> 00:56:45.979 Paul Moring: that, and lots of other reasons, I would imagine, very unlikely that it would ever be developed because of the cost of dealing with that contamination. And so,
450 00:56:46.390 --> 00:56:47.770 Paul Moring: The idea is…
451 00:56:48.520 --> 00:56:57.760 Paul Moring: could we persuade Thames Water, as part of their corporate net zero targets, to lease that land at a peppercorn rent?
452 00:56:58.310 --> 00:57:02.789 Paul Moring: And enable a solar farm to go in there.
453 00:57:03.120 --> 00:57:07.880 Paul Moring: Which could go over the top of, the contaminated land.
454 00:57:09.450 --> 00:57:20.260 Paul Moring: And generate local the… Community energy…
455 00:57:20.630 --> 00:57:30.639 Paul Moring: was one of the issues in a recent bill that has been approved, certainly in the Commons. I'm not sure if it's gone right through the process of, being enacted yet.
456 00:57:30.740 --> 00:57:45.430 Paul Moring: But there has been a recent change in the government's approach to community and NG projects, which means that you would be permitted to generate and sell power locally, which previously was not allowed.
457 00:57:45.730 --> 00:57:52.619 Paul Moring: So there's things changing in that context, which could make it more attractive.
458 00:57:53.160 --> 00:57:58.389 Paul Moring: I think if… It looked like it was something that could, take off.
459 00:57:58.670 --> 00:58:04.470 Paul Moring: Then, certainly, a quite obvious route to explore would be
460 00:58:04.690 --> 00:58:12.209 Paul Moring: asking Bucks Community Energy, who some of you will be aware of, to, take that project on.
461 00:58:12.590 --> 00:58:26.180 Paul Moring: And one of their funding models would be to do a local share offer. So, local people can choose to support the project by investing in it, and reap the benefits from that.
462 00:58:26.420 --> 00:58:31.700 Paul Moring: As well as the, benefits of having renewable energy nearby.
463 00:58:31.890 --> 00:58:40.890 Paul Moring: to, charge the Zimbal cars, power the reduced streetlights in the parish, that's the idea.
464 00:58:41.460 --> 00:58:52.420 Rachel Blackmore: That's… that's wonderful, Paul, mentioning Bucks Community Energy as well, because, of course, Alan is part of Bucks Community Energy, who's also interested in the cars, so it could… this could all link together really well, couldn't it?
465 00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:54.050 Rachel Blackmore: Thank you.
466 00:58:54.050 --> 00:59:13.300 Frances Tipper: Could I just add a point to that? Because funnily enough, Sean and I met this morning to talk about… we're trying to contact Thames Water, which is about this project, which is harder than you would think, really. But we have… we have sent out numerous emails to try and find someone who we can talk to
467 00:59:13.300 --> 00:59:23.700 Frances Tipper: about this, because yes, you're right, Paul, they do own that land, so we need to contact them first, to see what they would allow us to do on that land.
468 00:59:23.820 --> 00:59:28.200 Frances Tipper: So we'll let you know what happens if we ever get a reply.
469 00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:33.450 Rachel Blackmore: Thank you, Francis.
470 00:59:34.030 --> 00:59:52.360 Sean McCarthy: Can I ask a question, just briefly there? Thames Water, like all the water companies, are some of the largest users of energy in the country for the pumping water around the country. They've got their own internal commitments to reduce their
471 00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:56.219 Sean McCarthy: energy. Could there be a quid pro quo
472 00:59:56.330 --> 01:00:05.159 Sean McCarthy: Whereby we remind them they've got a piece of land that could generate energy, therefore reducing their carbon footprint. If they
473 01:00:05.460 --> 01:00:11.160 Sean McCarthy: put it under their name, but we benefit from it, or commercialize it.
474 01:00:11.160 --> 01:00:15.199 Paul Moring: I'm sure that they will be grabbing it for their corporate scorecard as quickly as they can.
475 01:00:15.200 --> 01:00:16.269 Sean McCarthy: Somehow, yeah, yeah.
476 01:00:16.270 --> 01:00:21.970 Paul Moring: Which… which, I hope, means that it's… Attractive to them to say.
477 01:00:22.110 --> 01:00:26.579 Paul Moring: You know, we can make progress on our corporate commitments. Yeah.
478 01:00:27.150 --> 01:00:30.359 Paul Moring: Although they may… they're probably at risk of being…
479 01:00:30.550 --> 01:00:43.410 Paul Moring: thrown out anyway, but anyway, that issue to one side. So, they can do nothing with the land, it appears. I'm not saying that with any qualification.
480 01:00:43.410 --> 01:01:01.369 Paul Moring: That I have, by the way, but… but it would appear that the fact that it's sat there for a long time and is contaminated suggests that they haven't got any great ideas to do something with it. And so, you know, what's not to like? The site isn't overlooked, by the way. The whole perimeter is…
481 01:01:01.410 --> 01:01:05.930 Paul Moring: Trees and shrubs. So, even the closest neighbors
482 01:01:06.090 --> 01:01:10.590 Paul Moring: are not gonna see anything, if you like.
483 01:01:10.650 --> 01:01:26.799 Paul Moring: So, you know, I'm sure negatives will come up, but I haven't thought of one yet. And exactly sure, and I think, you know, hopefully Thames Water are open to persuasion that this is a win all round.
484 01:01:27.020 --> 01:01:28.800 Sean McCarthy: Yeah, it makes them look good as well, so…
485 01:01:30.030 --> 01:01:34.750 Rachel Blackmore: Yeah, oh, thank you, lots of great input there. Jules, you've got your hand up.
486 01:01:37.310 --> 01:01:39.009 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yes, how exciting.
487 01:01:39.270 --> 01:01:43.559 Joolz | Community Climate Action: That sounds absolutely awesome, Paul. I think you said around 10 acres?
488 01:01:43.560 --> 01:01:49.059 Paul Moring: I think it's about to… I mean, that's an estimate based on… Google Maps.
489 01:01:49.060 --> 01:01:54.069 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Sure. I'm just wondering if you could maybe drop a pin in the chat or something?
490 01:01:54.280 --> 01:02:10.200 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And I'll be happy to take a look at it. I can work out the acreage and that kind of thing, and do a little bit of desktop feasibility on it, if it helps. The constraint will be likely, substation capacity in terms of actually taking the power.
491 01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:15.700 Joolz | Community Climate Action: I really like Sean's idea of potentially selling it to Thames Water.
492 01:02:16.020 --> 01:02:19.130 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And that can be done via a sleeving agreement.
493 01:02:19.240 --> 01:02:37.380 Joolz | Community Climate Action: and via a power purchase agreement with Thames Water. So it kind of just goes into the grid, but you say they're not technically getting the same electrons, but they're buying that power. So, yeah, some good possibilities there. And being community-owned means, again, generating a bit of a surplus.
494 01:02:37.690 --> 01:02:46.389 Joolz | Community Climate Action: You know, for the community, and it can only… it can only help, Thames Water's PR, because they are…
495 01:02:46.500 --> 01:03:01.749 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Not doing a brilliant job, at the moment. So yeah, lots of really good, exciting possibilities there. I'm curious what the contamination is. There's various ways of decontaminating the land without, necessarily taking the soil away, but I'm sure it would be suitable for
496 01:03:01.870 --> 01:03:08.569 Joolz | Community Climate Action: For solar. So yeah, just wanted to kind of have a look at it. Probably,
497 01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:12.510 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Probably 10 acres would be about 1 megawatt capacity.
498 01:03:12.720 --> 01:03:19.860 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And under 1MW, you can often get a grid connection with no weight. So that, that would be great as well.
499 01:03:20.050 --> 01:03:25.850 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And just for your information, that would power about 270 homes, the equivalent annual use.
500 01:03:26.150 --> 01:03:33.989 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And would save… 186 tons of carbon annually, so wouldn't that be good?
501 01:03:36.300 --> 01:03:39.079 Rachel Blackmore: That would be amazing.
502 01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:51.840 Rachel Blackmore: We're getting some good, good, project ideas out here. We haven't got much time left, so I'll move over… should we move over to you, Justine, because you've, were going to talk to us about food, grow to give.
503 01:03:54.610 --> 01:04:11.830 Justine Hamer: Yeah. Hello, hi. Yes, I'm Justine Hamer, got a couple of hats on in this, room. I'm part of Climate Action Wendover, but I also started Grow to Give, back in 2020. It was a COVID response programme,
504 01:04:11.830 --> 01:04:19.150 Justine Hamer: We could all see that, you know, food was going to be a massive issue for people, especially people in disadvantaged groups.
505 01:04:19.150 --> 01:04:37.490 Justine Hamer: And especially fresh food, suddenly we had shelves without food on them. I think that's the first time for a long time we've had that kind of wake-up call to the food system, and it usually always hits those most disadvantaged the most. So.
506 01:04:37.490 --> 01:04:42.969 Justine Hamer: I was growing very haphazardly in my back garden. I'm not the best grower.
507 01:04:42.980 --> 01:04:49.600 Justine Hamer: And I thought, you know, yeah, I could grow a tiny bit to give away, but if I got lots of people to do the same.
508 01:04:49.670 --> 01:05:04.010 Justine Hamer: we might get quite a… quite a big amount. So, we have now got quite a big amount. Over the years, we've given… we basically repurpose food from the allotments to five food charities across Buckinghamshire.
509 01:05:04.070 --> 01:05:23.140 Justine Hamer: And over the years, we've given away over 16 tonnes of fresh fruit and veg, and these are really high quality, fresh fruit and veg. It's not the stuff they get donated from the supermarkets at the very last moment of the, sort of, end-of-use date. It's really fresh, it lasts for a long time, it's been grown with a lot of love.
510 01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:34.050 Justine Hamer: And we work across 20 allotments, 250 volunteers usually involved, and we think about every year, we support about 3,500 local people.
511 01:05:34.050 --> 01:05:51.939 Justine Hamer: We mainly work to supporting people in the main areas of need, so that's Ellsbury, Chesham, High Wycombe, we're doing a bit around Tame, now as well in Hadnham, and the rural poverty, which often gets missed.
512 01:05:51.940 --> 01:05:59.549 Justine Hamer: Just to give you an idea, you know, from the Joseph Roundtree Foundation, about 1 in 5 young people are now living in poverty.
513 01:05:59.550 --> 01:06:14.299 Justine Hamer: And, you think we're in leafy Buckinghamshire, but food insecurity in Buckinghamshire, you know, some wards in Buckinghamshire have the highest rates in the whole of the UK. So, for example, there's some wards in, High Wycombe.
514 01:06:14.300 --> 01:06:18.789 Justine Hamer: Where, food poverty and insecurity is about 33% of households.
515 01:06:19.290 --> 01:06:31.670 Justine Hamer: So, it is an issue. Even in some of the leafier places, like Amersham, there's still pockets, and they can get overlooked because of this view that everybody there has a lot of money.
516 01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:56.759 Justine Hamer: So, yeah, I've got… I'm going to show you some photos of some of the things that… the kind of array of, produce that people donate. Obviously, it's community-led, zero, pretty much, food miles, and it's helping people. We believe that, you know, everyone should have access to fresh food, but especially in difficult times, and we're working with increasing amounts of growing
517 01:06:56.760 --> 01:07:13.970 Justine Hamer: spaces across Buckinghamshire as well, to, try and look at more, like, nutrition and nurture, and nature-type programs, so how to sort of go to a further wellbeing support to get people to a more sustainable way to be able to live
518 01:07:13.970 --> 01:07:28.760 Justine Hamer: their lives. And all the food banks and food charities we work with do multiple things around that. So, from an ecological point of view, we've done a lot of eco-growing workshops on the allotments, we've done a lot of no-dig.
519 01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:36.469 Justine Hamer: Some composting workshops, we do talk about rewilding, and I want to do some specific rewilding.
520 01:07:36.470 --> 01:07:46.049 Justine Hamer: work with the allotments, but, you know, generally, allotment folk know how to do biodiversity and know how important it is, to have that,
521 01:07:46.050 --> 01:08:04.889 Justine Hamer: on the allotment site, so they usually are teaching us. So I'll just show you just a few, photos, just so you can get an idea of some of the lovely produce we get given. This is just from our Facebook page. You know, week in, week out, just, you know, this would be a normal collection from an allotment of
522 01:08:06.020 --> 01:08:20.180 Justine Hamer: I'll see if I can get it here… you know, lots of core jets, but they go down very well. This is one of our lovely champions. We have a champion on each of the allotments, which was also one of our Climate Action Wendover member here.
523 01:08:20.180 --> 01:08:45.020 Justine Hamer: And people just really seem to be very, very generous at giving their produce away, and they could all be keeping it for, freezing it and keeping it in different ways. And we also try and encourage people to eat more, food and veg and veg, with a set of recipe cards and videos. But, you know, this isn't necessarily the answer to food, you know, the food resilience.
524 01:08:45.020 --> 01:09:03.100 Justine Hamer: across Buckinghamshire is just one aspect of it. And I do work on one a group with Jory, who's on here, who's trying to set up a… to reignite Good Food Bucks, which was the Bucks Food Partnership.
525 01:09:03.350 --> 01:09:09.580 Justine Hamer: the new end, and I don't know if, Joy, you want to say anything about that, and that's a bit wider, encompassing farmers and…
526 01:09:09.729 --> 01:09:15.559 Justine Hamer: and other parts of the, the food, family in Buckinghamshire.
527 01:09:17.160 --> 01:09:19.059 Justine Hamer: Joy, are you there at all?
528 01:09:19.069 --> 01:09:21.509 Rachel Blackmore: Justine, we missed your pictures there, by the way, couldn't see you.
529 01:09:21.510 --> 01:09:25.670 Justine Hamer: Did you? Oh, sorry, because I probably wasn't sharing it, let me just show you quickly…
530 01:09:25.670 --> 01:09:32.829 Rachel Blackmore: While we wait for Joy. Joy and Joy at the same time, to see if she's… On this page…
531 01:09:32.830 --> 01:09:35.600 Justine Hamer: How can I share it? Oh, here we go, share.
532 01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:40.160 Rachel Blackmore: Didn't want to break your flow.
533 01:09:40.160 --> 01:09:40.770 Justine Hamer: Oh.
534 01:09:40.779 --> 01:09:44.449 Rachel Blackmore: Christine. Well done, you, I appreciate how much.
535 01:09:44.450 --> 01:09:47.239 Justine Hamer: There we go. There's some of the… can you see the photos now?
536 01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:54.160 Rachel Blackmore: I can't, no. You've got that… that arrow at the bottom hasn't worked, then.
537 01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:56.250 Justine Hamer: I've done the share.
538 01:09:56.920 --> 01:09:59.049 Justine Hamer: Do it again, see if we can do it again.
539 01:09:59.940 --> 01:10:01.209 Justine Hamer: There we go.
540 01:10:03.540 --> 01:10:04.280 Justine Hamer: Boom.
541 01:10:04.810 --> 01:10:05.870 Justine Hamer: Okay.
542 01:10:06.020 --> 01:10:09.609 Justine Hamer: It's talking to me about opening… There we go.
543 01:10:10.570 --> 01:10:15.610 Justine Hamer: Oh, I've got to… Putting passwords.
544 01:10:15.610 --> 01:10:16.530 Rachel Blackmore: Oh.
545 01:10:16.850 --> 01:10:17.900 Justine Hamer: As usual.
546 01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:23.330 Justine Hamer: Okay, I might not be able to do it. Hang on.
547 01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:25.509 Justine Hamer: Is Joy there? Maybe, Joy, you can…
548 01:10:25.510 --> 01:10:27.499 Rachel Blackmore: See, Joy, actually.
549 01:10:27.500 --> 01:10:28.370 Justine Hamer: Maybe she's gone.
550 01:10:28.370 --> 01:10:31.959 Rachel Blackmore: I can… yeah, I think she must have gone, can't it? I can't… I'm just scan it.
551 01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:33.180 Justine Hamer: Can you see?
552 01:10:33.180 --> 01:10:35.820 Rachel Blackmore: names I did see at the beginning.
553 01:10:36.280 --> 01:10:37.370 Justine Hamer: You see it now?
554 01:10:37.370 --> 01:10:39.010 Rachel Blackmore: Yeah, it's arrived.
555 01:10:39.010 --> 01:10:53.989 Justine Hamer: So, some happy pictures to end on are nice… it's always quite heartwarming to see what people actually will give, and it's, you know, people are very, very, very generous. And there's some of our recipe cards, for example, and…
556 01:10:54.580 --> 01:11:04.990 Justine Hamer: Yes, we, it's good to see a community response that works, but obviously we'd all prefer that emergency food wasn't required in the first place.
557 01:11:05.380 --> 01:11:12.140 Justine Hamer: But, yeah, that's… it's unfortunately carried on with the cost of living being required.
558 01:11:12.460 --> 01:11:27.169 Rachel Blackmore: Yeah, and we're in various emergencies, so yeah, great to have solutions, lots of different ones. Thanks so much, Justine, and everybody, for all your inputs. That's been an inspiring session. Over to you, Jules.
559 01:11:27.630 --> 01:11:35.299 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Wow, yeah, inspiring would be my feedback, and I don't think I've ever participated as little in a Zoom.
560 01:11:36.170 --> 01:11:39.440 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Which is fantastic.
561 01:11:39.740 --> 01:11:46.540 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yeah, with Rachel Chairing, we're… me and the team at Community Climate Action are here to support your
562 01:11:46.740 --> 01:11:49.490 Joolz | Community Climate Action: plan. Your activity.
563 01:11:49.640 --> 01:11:56.230 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And I'm… and I'm leaving inspired, because there's about 50 people on this call.
564 01:11:56.340 --> 01:12:01.040 Joolz | Community Climate Action: I've been really impressed, with everything from active travel planning.
565 01:12:01.210 --> 01:12:09.800 Joolz | Community Climate Action: community energy, car sharing, you know, and food, and I'm just disappointed we've got, we've got to end.
566 01:12:10.250 --> 01:12:18.509 Joolz | Community Climate Action: You know, so Justine, I look forward to having further conversations with you about how we can scale and support your brilliant work.
567 01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:30.890 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Yeah, in terms of mutual aid, how fantastic is that, feeding, you know, 3,500 people locally and providing fresh fruit and veg? So, what a lovely, inspiring thing to end on.
568 01:12:31.260 --> 01:12:34.710 Joolz | Community Climate Action: So, the next time I see everybody, we'll probably be in person.
569 01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:51.410 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And on the themes of houses and community buildings, energy, food, transport, and biodiversity, we'll be workshopping an awful lot of this into a concrete plan, that we can then go and enact. It's not the end of
570 01:12:51.550 --> 01:12:53.169 Joolz | Community Climate Action: A journey, it's the start.
571 01:12:53.340 --> 01:13:08.900 Joolz | Community Climate Action: of something very special, I think, with everybody on this call. And it looks like there's naturally people just, rallying to the flag and leading on particular things in terms of energy, food, active travel. I'm delighted to see the,
572 01:13:09.240 --> 01:13:28.050 Joolz | Community Climate Action: You know, the car sharing. I'd love to be able to book a car, and not have one. That'd be so cool. So yeah, really excited, to… for the… for the actual workshop. So if you haven't booked… you haven't booked yet, please do, because we've got to figure out catering, and… and… and make sure we've got enough for everybody.
573 01:13:28.300 --> 01:13:31.530 Joolz | Community Climate Action: But really looking forward to seeing you all on the 11th of October.
574 01:13:31.740 --> 01:13:42.879 Joolz | Community Climate Action: to, to workshop this up into a full plan, and then we can put it forward to our respective parish councils. They can vote on it, and it becomes a living document.
575 01:13:43.140 --> 01:13:53.419 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And in terms of that planning, we are thinking of legacy. We are thinking of generations, and when it comes to things like
576 01:13:53.730 --> 01:13:57.570 Joolz | Community Climate Action: active travel, that… That's…
577 01:13:57.620 --> 01:14:09.290 Joolz | Community Climate Action: that's planning, you know, how do we get rid of our DHR cars? I think Eli or Ellie, I'm sorry, I don't know how to pronounce your name, but, you know, if we want… if we want to get cars off the road, we've got to think about planning.
578 01:14:09.290 --> 01:14:19.659 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Amsterdam, I put a link in the chat, I think… I think they started their… their car-free journey, and they're now an exemplar, in about 1971. So it's taken them a long time.
579 01:14:20.130 --> 01:14:30.439 Joolz | Community Climate Action: So let's not be afraid of… of that length or scale of change or level of ambition. You know, let's be ambitious and think about, as,
580 01:14:30.790 --> 01:14:43.020 Joolz | Community Climate Action: I think it might have been Sean or Paul said about our grandchildren. You know, what will they inherit from us, and, you know, how are we going to make their lives lovely? So, wow, and thanks, Justine, for that lovely thing to end on.
581 01:14:43.570 --> 01:14:52.129 Rachel Blackmore: Thanks so much, everybody, for coming. That's really, really good, and giving your time this evening, and for, yeah, looking forward to seeing you all at the workshop.
582 01:14:52.130 --> 01:14:59.980 David Blackmore: Just a question, in terms of… there's been so much discussed tonight, really good ideas and some detailed
583 01:14:59.990 --> 01:15:15.760 David Blackmore: plans. In terms of transitioning between this Zoom and the workshop, would it help if, there could be more, sort of, connection between tonight and the 11th of October, in terms of, you know, like, preparing the ground?
584 01:15:16.350 --> 01:15:33.689 Joolz | Community Climate Action: That's a really good question, David. So, I would encourage anyone on this call to think about if there is a particular passion. Justine, obviously, already working in food, for instance, and who might want to lead on that kind of subject, and who might want to join that team, because it will take us all.
585 01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:40.110 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And it would take teams, and this is all about collective action. So that's something to think about.
586 01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:57.220 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Each of our three preparatory Zooms have been recorded, and we will be sending out a link, putting it in the WhatsApp, and emailing it out for people to look at the recordings of the preparatory Zooms. They've also been transcribed.
587 01:15:57.330 --> 01:15:59.889 Joolz | Community Climate Action: So, actions have been captured.
588 01:16:00.180 --> 01:16:03.620 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And that'll… that'll feed into preparation for the day.
589 01:16:04.200 --> 01:16:22.670 Joolz | Community Climate Action: And also, just as an open offer, if people want to have a pre-workshop huddle on a specialist subject, be it food, active travel, and then actually kind of man those stations with myself and my co-facilitators, that would be a really good outcome, David, so…
590 01:16:26.150 --> 01:16:28.559 Rachel Blackmore: That sounds good. Talk about huddles.
591 01:16:30.020 --> 01:16:32.660 Joolz | Community Climate Action: Great. We'll be in touch with each other.
592 01:16:32.660 --> 01:16:41.740 Rachel Blackmore: Yeah. We're all connected. We've got, yeah, got, emails. I've blind carbon copied, actually, emails. Are people okay about their emails being seen when I…
593 01:16:41.740 --> 01:16:42.240 Malcolm Allison: Sure.
594 01:16:42.240 --> 01:16:47.480 Rachel Blackmore: Email, and then, and then we've got our contacts. Fantastic. Thanks so much, everybody. See you all soon.
595 01:16:47.480 --> 01:16:49.169 Malcolm Allison: Thank you. Thanks a lot. Take care.
596 01:16:49.170 --> 01:16:49.800 Alan Thawley: Hello?
597 01:16:50.240 --> 01:16:51.150 Rachel Blackmore: Yeah, bye bye.
598 01:16:51.690 --> 01:16:52.670 Rachel Blackmore: Bye-bye.
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