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WEBVTT 1 00:00:50.750 --> 00:00:52.130 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Good day, Andrew. 2 00:00:52.447 --> 00:00:53.399 Andrew Maliphant: Major, you aren't. 3 00:00:55.150 --> 00:00:55.860 Andrew Maliphant: was it? The other. 4 00:00:55.860 --> 00:00:56.530 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Step. 5 00:00:56.930 --> 00:00:58.370 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Who's it? They all of zoom. 6 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:02.040 Andrew Maliphant: Was it the old email passport you wanted, or the most recent one? 7 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:04.750 Andrew Maliphant: The. 8 00:01:04.750 --> 00:01:07.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, whatever the current one is, yeah. 9 00:01:07.910 --> 00:01:09.250 Andrew Maliphant: Right? Okay, 10 00:01:10.110 --> 00:01:13.588 Andrew Maliphant: fine. So I I'd send you the old one. But it's not where you wanted 11 00:01:14.700 --> 00:01:15.510 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well. 12 00:01:16.350 --> 00:01:19.009 Andrew Maliphant: No, let me see what I've got 13 00:01:23.790 --> 00:01:27.040 Andrew Maliphant: I've authorized the payment to Michael Jones so that that's done. 14 00:01:27.040 --> 00:01:29.568 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Thank you so much. Great, alright, good. 15 00:01:39.770 --> 00:01:40.600 Andrew Maliphant: Wanted. 16 00:01:51.070 --> 00:01:53.699 Andrew Maliphant: I will have it on my machine somewhere. 17 00:01:53.960 --> 00:01:55.399 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. Escape. The rush. 18 00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:57.239 Andrew Maliphant: Essentially digit. Dig it out? 19 00:02:00.070 --> 00:02:03.429 Andrew Maliphant: When was it we set it up? Was it September or something? Was it. 20 00:02:03.430 --> 00:02:05.830 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Oh, yes, last yes, last year. 21 00:02:29.780 --> 00:02:33.850 Andrew Maliphant: So it was a did you change the you change the the password as well? Then. 22 00:02:34.820 --> 00:02:38.230 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I'm not aware that I did, but that I didn't. Even 23 00:02:38.340 --> 00:02:41.850 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I did. I didn't even note it down, so I don't remember what I made it. 24 00:02:42.070 --> 00:02:43.320 Andrew Maliphant: Alright! Here we're good. 25 00:02:46.060 --> 00:02:47.750 Andrew Maliphant: Oh, yep, found it. 26 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:51.030 Andrew Maliphant: okeydokey! 27 00:02:51.030 --> 00:02:52.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Knew you would. 28 00:02:52.210 --> 00:02:55.280 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah. Do you want it in the chat, or separately? 29 00:02:55.640 --> 00:02:57.320 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, the chat's fine. Thank you. 30 00:03:01.340 --> 00:03:02.320 Andrew Maliphant: And then have to. 31 00:03:16.900 --> 00:03:19.060 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay, thank you. I needed that good. 32 00:03:19.060 --> 00:03:19.900 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah. 33 00:03:20.130 --> 00:03:22.600 Andrew Maliphant: hey, Jared, you did that for this 34 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:24.460 Andrew Maliphant: miles. 35 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:30.255 Andrew Maliphant: Speaking of Gmail so and get onto what other stuff we're looking at. 36 00:03:31.770 --> 00:03:40.200 Andrew Maliphant: I have chat. I've so I paid Michael Jones. I have chased him up about the telling us how we add new topics, because we really need that was almost spec. 37 00:03:42.270 --> 00:03:45.410 Andrew Maliphant: I think the next issue is, when, how soon 38 00:03:45.600 --> 00:03:49.370 Andrew Maliphant: do do we then transfer that login onto the live site? 39 00:03:50.623 --> 00:03:54.266 Andrew Maliphant: That's partly connected to how far Chris thinks he's got with the 40 00:03:54.610 --> 00:03:55.859 Andrew Maliphant: single sign on. 41 00:03:56.770 --> 00:03:57.740 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Exactly. 42 00:04:12.620 --> 00:04:14.400 Andrew Maliphant: Go ahead. And the apologies for today. 43 00:04:15.238 --> 00:04:17.329 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We have had one from Liz. 44 00:04:17.660 --> 00:04:18.450 Andrew Maliphant: Right. 45 00:04:26.510 --> 00:04:30.440 Andrew Maliphant: So obviously, I've been away for a week. If there's nothing hopefully, there's nothing that I've 46 00:04:31.860 --> 00:04:34.719 Andrew Maliphant: promise to do that I'll sign you fall down on me. 47 00:04:36.710 --> 00:04:38.539 Andrew Maliphant: Oh, yes, but we haven't. 48 00:04:38.740 --> 00:04:39.380 Chris Pointon: You know. 49 00:04:40.020 --> 00:04:40.570 Chris Pointon: Yep. 50 00:04:43.580 --> 00:04:48.340 Andrew Maliphant: I'm just checking the notes to make sure there wasn't anything I said. I'll do which I haven't done, which I'm 51 00:04:49.760 --> 00:04:51.667 Andrew Maliphant: I think I've escaped this time, but 52 00:04:51.940 --> 00:04:52.769 Chris Pointon: I won't do. 53 00:04:55.980 --> 00:04:56.500 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah. 54 00:04:58.770 --> 00:05:01.979 Andrew Maliphant: Did you have a good chat with Tristram on Tuesday? Graham. 55 00:05:02.540 --> 00:05:06.885 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We did we had Jules with us, and it went very well. 56 00:05:07.460 --> 00:05:10.680 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And I think I think Jules got everything he needed. 57 00:05:11.280 --> 00:05:12.460 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. And 58 00:05:12.870 --> 00:05:13.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: and yeah. 59 00:05:13.390 --> 00:05:14.110 Andrew Maliphant: Issues, of. 60 00:05:14.110 --> 00:05:19.590 Graham Stoddart-Stones: So I agree that we'd hold a separate meeting to cover all the ground that we were going to cover, but didn't. 61 00:05:22.450 --> 00:05:23.740 Andrew Maliphant: Good oak. Yeah. 62 00:05:23.980 --> 00:05:25.360 Andrew Maliphant: holding you. 63 00:05:29.250 --> 00:05:32.577 Andrew Maliphant: Well, we wouldn't not have him. But there we are. 64 00:05:35.420 --> 00:05:40.900 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah, I think one of the things wanted to check was whether it be there need to be some kind, you know the data control, wasn't it? 65 00:05:41.520 --> 00:05:45.450 Andrew Maliphant: Whether there needs to be some data, agreement or whatever at any moment they're in. 66 00:05:48.780 --> 00:05:49.980 Andrew Maliphant: Yes. 67 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:56.189 Andrew Maliphant: Chris, I was just saying to Graham, one of the things I wanted to raise today was when 68 00:05:56.981 --> 00:06:03.780 Andrew Maliphant: we might move some of the stuff we're putting on the Dev website onto the live one and that the reason for that is that 69 00:06:04.110 --> 00:06:10.409 Andrew Maliphant: I've had a a email from Oswald Street Town Council to shorter, saying 70 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:14.359 Andrew Maliphant: they've been to build in login, you know. What's the latest. So obviously, we've 71 00:06:14.450 --> 00:06:20.739 Andrew Maliphant: we haven't got the council login on the live live site yet, but of course don't want to press that until we know what to 72 00:06:21.070 --> 00:06:23.379 Andrew Maliphant: what the thinking is on the the single sign on. 73 00:06:27.510 --> 00:06:28.230 Chris Pointon: So 74 00:06:32.960 --> 00:06:39.169 Chris Pointon: is the dev done on the Council actions. Is that ready? Did so. I'm slightly lost. The thread of. 75 00:06:39.170 --> 00:06:41.119 Andrew Maliphant: Okay. Well, there's 2 things that they can't. 76 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:42.090 Chris Pointon: A good. 77 00:06:42.382 --> 00:06:59.059 Andrew Maliphant: One of which is added in the collective actions that we've got so far, and he's done that very successfully, and they coded by the same topics as the individual actions. I've still got to add in the photographs to some of them to complete that process. But that's something for me to do, not him 78 00:06:59.610 --> 00:07:04.409 Andrew Maliphant: so at that, at some point that needs to go over to the live site. 79 00:07:04.900 --> 00:07:12.119 Andrew Maliphant: to say, ask him as part of the deal to let us know exactly how. We then add further actions to the live site. So you know, we need that idiots, Guy. 80 00:07:12.460 --> 00:07:17.379 Andrew Maliphant: the other thing he's done is he's put up set up on the Dev website. 81 00:07:17.390 --> 00:07:21.699 Andrew Maliphant: different logins for community groups and local councils. 82 00:07:22.030 --> 00:07:30.020 Andrew Maliphant: When we looked at it a couple of weeks back when you're in Scotland. There were some other tweaks, we decided we need to add in as well. 83 00:07:30.620 --> 00:07:32.780 Andrew Maliphant: So I suspect maybe on the 84 00:07:33.580 --> 00:07:35.312 Andrew Maliphant: early notes, actually, 85 00:07:37.020 --> 00:07:38.760 Andrew Maliphant: and like. 86 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:53.210 Andrew Maliphant: I know, they're on some they're on. 87 00:07:56.020 --> 00:07:57.630 Andrew Maliphant: Oh, there it is. Yeah. 88 00:07:58.020 --> 00:08:01.686 Andrew Maliphant: on the 24th of May. We talked about it. 89 00:08:06.410 --> 00:08:12.019 Andrew Maliphant: so there's something there already, and it's about some extra bits drop down boxes, tick boxes, 90 00:08:12.910 --> 00:08:13.785 Andrew Maliphant: emails, 91 00:08:17.112 --> 00:08:21.100 Andrew Maliphant: projects and so forth. So there's some extra coding been suggested there. 92 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:28.789 Andrew Maliphant: so as and when it goes to the life site. 93 00:08:30.470 --> 00:08:35.679 Andrew Maliphant: the suggestion is, it isn't just simply transported across that. It's upgraded again at the same time. 94 00:08:37.309 --> 00:08:38.630 Andrew Maliphant: But if you 95 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.072 Andrew Maliphant: it's difficult. So you 96 00:08:41.770 --> 00:08:54.010 Andrew Maliphant: Michael, did show me how, if I log into the website. And then I said, Oh, you can't register because you're already registered. Yes, show to me how I can do it by pretending to be, you know. Just get past the Gcd bit, and then we can have a look. 97 00:08:54.608 --> 00:09:00.279 Andrew Maliphant: So we've got that. I I've just. We've just paid Michael Jones for what he's done for us already. 98 00:09:00.470 --> 00:09:05.679 Andrew Maliphant: and I've asked him if he might have some time to do the next bit. That's simply a question of what what time he's got available. 99 00:09:07.930 --> 00:09:16.879 Andrew Maliphant: I know Jules tends to come back to the same issues around single sign on. But I think we we discovered it wasn't actually that as owners, as he feared it would be. 100 00:09:17.040 --> 00:09:19.385 Andrew Maliphant: and to extend things later on that 101 00:09:19.730 --> 00:09:22.829 Andrew Maliphant: again. That was a long discussion we had last Friday, wasn't it? 102 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:25.140 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah. 103 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:28.030 Chris Pointon: Yeah, I think the problem. 104 00:09:29.470 --> 00:09:30.300 Chris Pointon: we 105 00:09:32.170 --> 00:09:35.179 Chris Pointon: yeah, it is difficult. There. 106 00:09:35.740 --> 00:09:42.409 Chris Pointon: we will be stacking up problems for ourselves later on, and a risk that people lose what they've they've done in there. 107 00:09:42.470 --> 00:09:44.149 Chris Pointon: And I think 108 00:09:44.950 --> 00:09:45.910 Chris Pointon: and 109 00:09:49.140 --> 00:09:50.010 Chris Pointon: I'd 110 00:09:50.880 --> 00:09:55.419 Chris Pointon: I'm I'm I'm I'm sort of persuaded by Jules's position on this that 111 00:09:56.305 --> 00:10:02.809 Chris Pointon: there's plenty for us to do. And and the pilot already to do the groundwork, like we're starting to do with finding 112 00:10:02.850 --> 00:10:05.989 Chris Pointon: connecting groups and finding out what's going on in the projects 113 00:10:06.090 --> 00:10:11.309 Chris Pointon: starting, you know, I've connecting with someone who's already working with a sports club in Cambridgeshire 114 00:10:11.330 --> 00:10:18.412 Chris Pointon: about sustainability stuff. And that looks quite promising as a potential one of our 3. So it's things like that that are just 115 00:10:19.070 --> 00:10:22.420 Chris Pointon: it feels like we that there's stuff we can do that's just 116 00:10:23.330 --> 00:10:30.190 Chris Pointon: people and brains, and talking as opposed to tech, which gives me some air cover to be continuing to chip away at the thing. 117 00:10:30.220 --> 00:10:30.800 Chris Pointon: But 118 00:10:31.830 --> 00:10:32.175 Andrew Maliphant: Okay. 119 00:10:33.210 --> 00:10:33.710 Andrew Maliphant: and I'll. 120 00:10:33.710 --> 00:10:35.009 Chris Pointon: And and the 121 00:10:36.030 --> 00:10:45.189 Chris Pointon: there isn't a great deal of update on that on the single sign on this week. I'm afraid I've been out at a conference, Wednesday and Thursday, which is very interesting 122 00:10:45.220 --> 00:10:55.510 Chris Pointon: about civic technology. So technology for people and technology to do with democracy. The second day yesterday was all to do technology for climate action. 123 00:10:56.920 --> 00:10:59.250 Chris Pointon: and one of the takeaways from that. 124 00:10:59.670 --> 00:11:01.509 Chris Pointon: I'm getting a bit sorry there's a bit of a 125 00:11:01.900 --> 00:11:09.669 Chris Pointon: maybe this is a bit of a random walk from the topic of the website. So I'll put on the agenda a quick update on things I learned at the Civic tech conference. How about that? 126 00:11:09.830 --> 00:11:10.470 Andrew Maliphant: Fine. 127 00:11:12.010 --> 00:11:18.670 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah, I was at the innovate Uk event in Cardiff yesterday, so picked up some good odd bits of goodies on that as well. 128 00:11:18.970 --> 00:11:23.619 Andrew Maliphant: that was particularly about one of the big themes of that was how 129 00:11:25.220 --> 00:11:32.829 Andrew Maliphant: in small companies that are developing great innovation products and services for climate, how do they actually connect with 130 00:11:34.420 --> 00:11:36.990 Andrew Maliphant: the local councils? Because 131 00:11:37.210 --> 00:11:43.820 Andrew Maliphant: if these are new, new, if these are new ideas, how does a local council know that that it might be of interest, and then, of course. 132 00:11:43.860 --> 00:11:46.099 Andrew Maliphant: they have to go through attending process schedules. 133 00:11:46.420 --> 00:11:47.050 iFarm / CCA: I am. 134 00:11:47.820 --> 00:11:48.320 Andrew Maliphant: So 135 00:11:49.230 --> 00:11:51.320 Andrew Maliphant: you're in a different place now. Yeah. 136 00:11:55.640 --> 00:11:57.730 Andrew Maliphant: so that that was useful. 137 00:11:57.730 --> 00:11:58.649 Chris Pointon: So. So what 138 00:11:59.660 --> 00:12:05.940 Chris Pointon: there is definitely a challenge in connecting the data with the councils and innovate UK. Are 139 00:12:06.040 --> 00:12:07.220 Chris Pointon: funding 140 00:12:07.390 --> 00:12:13.770 Chris Pointon: an initiative called locally determined contributions in Cambridge. I went to the week before last. 141 00:12:15.010 --> 00:12:18.069 Chris Pointon: and there is an entire data. 142 00:12:19.546 --> 00:12:22.699 Chris Pointon: Work stream as part of that in Cambridge, so that I'm 143 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.750 Chris Pointon: overdue to to follow up about and get myself inserted into. 144 00:12:28.100 --> 00:12:29.150 Chris Pointon: That is 145 00:12:29.470 --> 00:12:31.590 Chris Pointon: all about trying to get data 146 00:12:31.800 --> 00:12:33.869 Chris Pointon: to communities, and from them. 147 00:12:33.870 --> 00:12:35.170 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah, yeah, I hear you 148 00:12:36.623 --> 00:12:41.220 Andrew Maliphant: and to say, when we know once we've got community groups and 149 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:46.980 Andrew Maliphant: local councils, real bedded into great collaboration site. Then we need to. 150 00:12:47.130 --> 00:12:49.769 Andrew Maliphant: You know, the next horizon will be businesses. But 151 00:12:50.020 --> 00:12:57.939 Andrew Maliphant: we know we know about that. So I've had quite a lot of ideas and feedback about that which don't need to involve people with at the moment. But. 152 00:12:59.590 --> 00:13:00.700 Andrew Maliphant: There we go. 153 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:04.341 Andrew Maliphant: of course, a lot of count. Local councils don't 154 00:13:05.570 --> 00:13:11.400 Andrew Maliphant: When they say community, they tend not to think of businesses as part of the community, which of course they they are and should be. 155 00:13:12.220 --> 00:13:16.916 Andrew Maliphant: So what's the recipe today, Jim? Then you will need the feedback. Chris, from your 156 00:13:17.810 --> 00:13:24.000 Andrew Maliphant: conferences? And perhaps Jules and Graham could tell us a bit more about parish online. 157 00:13:25.180 --> 00:13:28.880 Andrew Maliphant: but Liz sent her apologies today, apparently, so she might be. 158 00:13:34.330 --> 00:13:35.949 iFarm / CCA: Yeah. So you going first, st Chris. 159 00:13:38.410 --> 00:13:39.618 Chris Pointon: So yeah, I was just 160 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:45.059 Chris Pointon: just kind of carry forward the actions from the last one. 161 00:13:45.590 --> 00:13:54.860 iFarm / CCA: Alright! Sure I haven't done anything about Trello. By the way, busy Week. Great is great big green week, and I've had 3 speaking events, and met 2 different 162 00:13:54.890 --> 00:14:00.060 iFarm / CCA: 2 different Mp. Candidates. And then on Saturday I'm sharing a stage with Adrian Ramsey and 163 00:14:00.250 --> 00:14:01.300 iFarm / CCA: breathing. 164 00:14:03.300 --> 00:14:04.691 Andrew Maliphant: Well, that's the price of fame, Julie. 165 00:14:05.746 --> 00:14:08.314 iFarm / CCA: Alright! Oh, blonde! 166 00:14:10.060 --> 00:14:24.763 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah, I was in Cardiff yesterday, this innovate Uk thing which is safe. They've got 50 old projects around the country, including Forestedine District Council, which I didn't know about until yesterday. You think I might have been aware of. Never mind, we're on my doorstep 167 00:14:25.420 --> 00:14:27.910 Andrew Maliphant: so they there'll be some. 168 00:14:27.990 --> 00:14:32.560 Andrew Maliphant: They're all very pleased with that way that's going. I haven't haven't sent me the notes yet, but. 169 00:14:34.410 --> 00:14:35.370 Chris Pointon: Like case 170 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:42.769 Chris Pointon: on single sign on. I, like Jules, have not had a lot of time this week. I was out at Ticok on Wednesday and Thursday, which displaced 171 00:14:43.150 --> 00:14:44.280 Chris Pointon: absolutely 172 00:14:44.590 --> 00:14:47.319 Chris Pointon: everything else into Monday, Tuesday, and today. 173 00:14:47.922 --> 00:14:50.099 Chris Pointon: tech tech is a civic tech 174 00:14:50.710 --> 00:14:52.349 Chris Pointon: conference. So a conference of 175 00:14:53.000 --> 00:15:02.620 Chris Pointon: a lot of a lot of it's to do with democratic rights and disinformation. So a lot of the focus is on that. But they had a whole strand yesterday on climate and data which was more 176 00:15:02.660 --> 00:15:08.930 Chris Pointon: in I I went to both days because there's always interesting things talking about that I'm interested in intellectually rather than 177 00:15:09.380 --> 00:15:13.539 Chris Pointon: app in terms of direct application. But the second day was sort of the climate day to day. 178 00:15:14.730 --> 00:15:20.729 Chris Pointon: So that's by way of my justification for single sign on having moved him in since our last conversation, but. 179 00:15:20.730 --> 00:15:21.850 iFarm / CCA: Let's hope it's. 180 00:15:21.850 --> 00:15:23.589 Chris Pointon: Continues to be the 1st thing 181 00:15:23.700 --> 00:15:27.520 Chris Pointon: on my great collaboration list. As soon as I have great collaboration time. 182 00:15:28.641 --> 00:15:32.730 Chris Pointon: The other small update is that there's some progress in Cambridgeshire. 183 00:15:32.790 --> 00:15:36.250 Chris Pointon: I've got a meeting next week specifically to talk about proposed 184 00:15:36.980 --> 00:15:42.530 Chris Pointon: community initiatives being funded by the combined authority that wrapped up in. That is 185 00:15:42.770 --> 00:15:48.560 Chris Pointon: the great collaborations. Train the trainer stuff by our cable and English carbon footprint 186 00:15:49.199 --> 00:15:55.919 Chris Pointon: and also direct funding for the great collaboration as a network of support in the county. 187 00:15:55.940 --> 00:16:02.039 Chris Pointon: So I'll keep you posted on indications that they're not going to allocate budgets until the end of July, though. 188 00:16:03.003 --> 00:16:03.806 Chris Pointon: Because 189 00:16:05.400 --> 00:16:14.499 Chris Pointon: of the General Election. So they were due to meet next week and allocate budgets which we were trying to get under the line, for they've pushed that out to July end of July. Now. 190 00:16:16.400 --> 00:16:16.770 iFarm / CCA: So. 191 00:16:16.770 --> 00:16:18.403 Andrew Maliphant: Oh no! 192 00:16:19.740 --> 00:16:26.039 iFarm / CCA: So just in relation to obviously following our banter session with Adam Virtue or Essex. 193 00:16:26.481 --> 00:16:31.680 iFarm / CCA: Conversations have continued between myself and Stuart to do something in great done by 194 00:16:31.910 --> 00:16:44.029 iFarm / CCA: for with community contact. And then we are. We're writing a proposal. Yeah, I think you send the correspondence under our proposed that the 10,000 pounds goes through place based initiative to pay community action to deliver 195 00:16:44.040 --> 00:16:45.369 iFarm / CCA: the workshops. 196 00:16:46.245 --> 00:16:51.770 iFarm / CCA: So that will have some cash flow and status benefit charity status benefits, I think, for Bbi. 197 00:16:54.030 --> 00:17:02.859 iFarm / CCA: Equally, I'm gonna approach the or similar offices in in roles in Norfolk and Suffolk 198 00:17:03.410 --> 00:17:12.119 iFarm / CCA: for a similar amount of money and say, Well, can you give us 10,000 pounds and we'll deliver some community climate action planning for a group as a test. 199 00:17:12.471 --> 00:17:15.970 iFarm / CCA: And I'm wondering, Chris, if you have a similar connection in Cambridge 200 00:17:16.940 --> 00:17:26.820 iFarm / CCA: that we could ask as community kind of action. We'll go through Pbi, but it would. It would. I mean, there's this most is. There's direct costs, you know. It's not for development. This kind of thing. 201 00:17:28.069 --> 00:17:30.653 Chris Pointon: Process, delivery rather than development. 202 00:17:31.340 --> 00:17:35.809 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, it's delivery of. So, for instance, the conversation with Essex was 203 00:17:35.980 --> 00:17:39.430 iFarm / CCA: with Adam Birch Weaver, who's low carbon Homes officer. 204 00:17:40.010 --> 00:17:51.679 iFarm / CCA: I met with him in Colchester with Colchester community energy and their car, their climate emergency sends the guys and said, Love what you're doing. I've got 10 grand. Let's find somewhere in Essex to do it. 205 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:54.190 iFarm / CCA: and 206 00:17:54.280 --> 00:17:56.720 iFarm / CCA: on the banter session 207 00:17:57.230 --> 00:18:04.529 iFarm / CCA: Stuart put his hand up and said, well, I'm in Great Dumbo, and which is in uttals for district, and that was the district that Adam mentioned. 208 00:18:04.680 --> 00:18:27.329 iFarm / CCA: And I said, I said, on the call I said, brilliant, should we do this then? And then in the follow up call emails are, yes, yes, let's yes, let's do it. And what Adam wants is either 2 or 3 workshops for that sort of money for specific areas, right? Community collaboration plan. I'm going to be asking Emma Dixon, who's climate change, partnerships manager herself with County Council. 209 00:18:27.340 --> 00:18:31.089 iFarm / CCA: and also Greg Pearson. He feels the same role that Norfolk County Council. 210 00:18:32.650 --> 00:18:36.049 iFarm / CCA: and I just wondered if there was a similar officer 211 00:18:36.170 --> 00:18:40.420 iFarm / CCA: or contacting Cambridge and Peterborough combined authority. We could do a similar ask. 212 00:18:43.700 --> 00:18:46.789 Andrew Maliphant: It it it it also kills me. If we've got a a 213 00:18:47.930 --> 00:18:57.539 Andrew Maliphant: standard thought about what these you know, subject to transport, or whatever, what a community or action work would cost, depending on 214 00:18:57.550 --> 00:19:01.760 Andrew Maliphant: how many people, depending on how many people facilitate, depending on 215 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:06.338 Andrew Maliphant: you know how much preparation, so forth that that will perhaps help. 216 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:07.820 Andrew Maliphant: not help. 217 00:19:07.900 --> 00:19:12.919 Andrew Maliphant: You know, turf out some more money, so people can see exactly how how it's being worked up. 218 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:16.499 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, very much, particularly if somebody else has already said Yes, and is doing it. 219 00:19:16.500 --> 00:19:18.093 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah, yeah. 220 00:19:18.890 --> 00:19:21.640 Chris Pointon: So just to answer Jules's question, so we don't leave it hanging. 221 00:19:21.790 --> 00:19:22.150 iFarm / CCA: Yeah. 222 00:19:22.150 --> 00:19:24.599 Chris Pointon: Almost certainly, yes, but the way that 223 00:19:24.610 --> 00:19:29.610 Chris Pointon: it's been packaged for the combined authority in in Cambridge is slightly different 224 00:19:29.800 --> 00:19:30.730 Chris Pointon: to 225 00:19:30.910 --> 00:19:35.590 Chris Pointon: that. They're not at the moment geared up to give out 226 00:19:35.890 --> 00:19:37.570 Chris Pointon: grants at that level. 227 00:19:38.214 --> 00:19:40.159 iFarm / CCA: They're not grants, they're not grants 228 00:19:41.781 --> 00:19:45.028 iFarm / CCA: is procuring a service. 229 00:19:46.030 --> 00:19:46.890 iFarm / CCA: So yeah. 230 00:19:47.330 --> 00:19:48.050 Chris Pointon: Exactly. 231 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:50.460 Chris Pointon: I think the point is that we need to. 232 00:19:51.700 --> 00:19:53.829 Chris Pointon: They are trying to find 233 00:19:54.080 --> 00:19:56.580 Chris Pointon: program partners that can run 234 00:19:57.090 --> 00:19:59.979 Chris Pointon: the sort of program that would hand out that money 235 00:20:00.070 --> 00:20:01.600 Chris Pointon: times 50. 236 00:20:01.600 --> 00:20:02.000 iFarm / CCA: Show. 237 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:03.680 Chris Pointon: Few years. And 238 00:20:04.110 --> 00:20:05.040 Chris Pointon: so 239 00:20:05.280 --> 00:20:14.260 Chris Pointon: we're approaching it more in that way. And we would talk about doing pilots using Cca. Delivering it. That would be part of the train. The trainer program 240 00:20:14.350 --> 00:20:18.077 Chris Pointon: for a longer term intervention in Cambridgeshire that would continue. 241 00:20:18.450 --> 00:20:24.349 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, that's that's the current conversation. And that's a strategic conversation. And I would suggest one that should continue. 242 00:20:24.820 --> 00:20:31.950 iFarm / CCA: I I think concurrently, we might just ask, and it might even be a District council like East Cambridge. 243 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:32.790 Chris Pointon: Right. 244 00:20:33.090 --> 00:20:40.000 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, or or the county or the combined authority. They will have someone in that role. They will have a budget right now. 245 00:20:40.170 --> 00:20:45.550 Chris Pointon: Oh, totally yeah, I I'm not certain they'll have a budget, but it's worth shaking the tree to see if they do. 246 00:20:46.500 --> 00:20:53.520 Chris Pointon: Certainly the the 2 to 2 South Cams offices throughout. Follow up with you, Andrew Ola, and 247 00:20:53.970 --> 00:21:03.610 Chris Pointon: I'm not sure what they've got Budget wise, but that might be a thing they'd be interested in. Say they've invested in the net 0. Now, training, which is what Cambridge carbon footprint has been doing, which is, as you know, is a different. 248 00:21:03.820 --> 00:21:04.380 iFarm / CCA: Yeah. 249 00:21:04.380 --> 00:21:06.530 Chris Pointon: A different component of the same 250 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:08.448 Chris Pointon: wheel, if you like. 251 00:21:09.170 --> 00:21:14.549 Chris Pointon: so I'm not sure whether they then consider that's their job done for that kind of stuff. 252 00:21:14.550 --> 00:21:15.000 iFarm / CCA: Don't! 253 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:15.580 Chris Pointon: No deal. 254 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:17.180 Chris Pointon: Don't have any. 255 00:21:17.180 --> 00:21:18.360 iFarm / CCA: Let's have an ask, you know. 256 00:21:18.360 --> 00:21:23.460 Chris Pointon: Yeah. And and Peter is. Peter Bates is is super networked on the East cam site. So it might be. 257 00:21:23.460 --> 00:21:23.900 iFarm / CCA: Ok. 258 00:21:23.900 --> 00:21:26.518 Chris Pointon: That would be a good thing to set his 259 00:21:26.830 --> 00:21:27.850 Chris Pointon: right. Take a go. 260 00:21:28.415 --> 00:21:33.269 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, I mean, I'm obviously corresponding with Peter. He wants me to come and do a couple of talks. 261 00:21:33.270 --> 00:21:33.820 Chris Pointon: Right. 262 00:21:34.150 --> 00:21:45.880 iFarm / CCA: Up near Ely. I think. So I'll just. I'll also ask Peter as well say, Okay, great. This is this is what we're doing in other areas. And I in an ideal world we've we've pretty much already got. Yes, from Essex. 263 00:21:46.410 --> 00:22:09.570 iFarm / CCA: It's likely, I think, that would get yes from Suffolk and from Norfolk. So then, if we go to Cambridgeshire and or Peter Cambridge and Peterborough, and say, Hang on well, actually, 3 the 3 other counties in. This pilot said, yes, we are doing these things with. This is the price. This is what we're delivering. And do you have a similar budget? We've got a place in East Cambridgeshire. We've got community group that wants it. 264 00:22:10.190 --> 00:22:17.689 iFarm / CCA: You know, it's it's just having. It's just just on that basis having an ask, and it can be concurrent with other other conversations, so. 265 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:27.729 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah. And and if you could do a a a bit of a a puff whatever you wanna call it. Menu of of one pager about what you know. CC. 266 00:22:27.730 --> 00:22:28.930 iFarm / CCA: I told you. 267 00:22:29.395 --> 00:22:29.860 Andrew Maliphant: Then. 268 00:22:29.860 --> 00:22:36.790 iFarm / CCA: So I've already sent through the proposal for pizzas field Town Council, which was again, around 10,000 pounds. 269 00:22:36.790 --> 00:22:37.240 Andrew Maliphant: Okay. 270 00:22:37.690 --> 00:22:41.350 iFarm / CCA: I will. I'm currently finishing off one for Worthing. 271 00:22:41.806 --> 00:22:45.830 iFarm / CCA: That's funded that's funded by the local resilience Forum. 272 00:22:45.830 --> 00:22:46.360 Andrew Maliphant: Yep. 273 00:22:46.360 --> 00:22:54.969 iFarm / CCA: And that's funded by Sussex police, which is really interesting as well. So another avenue is to ask such. My next step is to ask Suffolk resilience, forum, Norfolk, resilience forum. 274 00:22:54.970 --> 00:22:55.450 Andrew Maliphant: But. 275 00:22:55.450 --> 00:23:03.280 iFarm / CCA: The other resilience for funding so that's so, that's what I'm currently doing. Then I'll then I'll be writing the one for Adam. 276 00:23:03.360 --> 00:23:23.938 iFarm / CCA: and that's the boilerplate, basically that. Yes, we'll share. I've also discussing with Bonnie how we chat, how? She's working on our Cca website with a charging structure and this kind of thing, and that we publish shortly. So again, when people go well, what Cca, that will be a website that we prices all of those kind of things. Say. 277 00:23:24.270 --> 00:23:25.010 Andrew Maliphant: Special. 278 00:23:25.210 --> 00:23:25.860 iFarm / CCA: Yep. 279 00:23:25.860 --> 00:23:29.299 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah, yeah, as it's, what does it say? What? It's sort of 280 00:23:29.540 --> 00:23:33.680 Andrew Maliphant: plan for success. We get somebody say, yes, and then say, right here it is, you know. 281 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:34.450 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, the the. 282 00:23:34.450 --> 00:23:34.950 Andrew Maliphant: Lovely, who is. 283 00:23:34.950 --> 00:23:40.589 iFarm / CCA: So also had a constructive meeting with brought up Bromsgrove Community Climate Action group there up in the West Country. 284 00:23:40.610 --> 00:23:42.618 iFarm / CCA: We were near Birmingham, anyway. 285 00:23:43.070 --> 00:23:53.396 iFarm / CCA: and equally also, retrofit Balsall Heath, who are in Birmingham, and I I expect to get an expression of interest for our fund for national lottery bid from both of those groups, as well. 286 00:23:54.340 --> 00:23:54.920 iFarm / CCA: Good. 287 00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:59.897 Andrew Maliphant: Thank you. Yeah. I've had office support from also Street Town Council as well on that. 288 00:24:00.910 --> 00:24:03.690 iFarm / CCA: Oh, there's a Cbc in those history, though I'm 289 00:24:04.090 --> 00:24:07.110 iFarm / CCA: there's a there's a climate emergency center in Oswestry. 290 00:24:07.110 --> 00:24:07.790 Andrew Maliphant: Okay. Alright! 291 00:24:08.130 --> 00:24:08.920 iFarm / CCA: To you. 292 00:24:09.290 --> 00:24:12.894 Andrew Maliphant: I had a long chat with Linda from the Climate Research Centre people. So this is 293 00:24:13.120 --> 00:24:14.160 iFarm / CCA: Yeah. She mentioned. 294 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:15.899 Andrew Maliphant: Good to get engaged. Yeah, so. 295 00:24:16.190 --> 00:24:16.799 iFarm / CCA: Great, so. 296 00:24:17.023 --> 00:24:22.610 Andrew Maliphant: My my current plan is to spend time next week doing the 1st draft for the lottery bid, and we'll have a chew at it. 297 00:24:22.780 --> 00:24:40.976 iFarm / CCA: Brilliant. 2 things on that for the 19, th for our next pilot meeting. I know. I know we tend to go off topic. This is not really a death meeting. This is more of a general catch up. But Tess Draper has confirmed that she'll come along and and volunteer to head up the schools or join the Schools group. 298 00:24:41.765 --> 00:25:03.919 iFarm / CCA: So she's confirmed. And also, next next Wednesday I've got meeting with an Academy Trust following my presentation on Wednesday at the the West Africa college green skills they've gone. It was. It was predominantly about the great collaboration. You know. My presentation is a beautiful huge, wide screen, massive light. Ted talk 299 00:25:04.304 --> 00:25:29.455 iFarm / CCA: and immediately got the headmistress and the trustee of an Academy trust. Say, we want to be your partners and exemplar in Suffolk for schools. So I meet. So I'm physically going to their high school on Wednesday. And we're also gonna discuss the primary schools and other other schools in their trust in Suffolk. So we've got some schools signed up already, which is great. And then I also had a meeting with a chat called Mark's 300 00:25:29.770 --> 00:25:35.999 iFarm / CCA: and Mark runs the people's pub partnership and is very involved in community pubs. 301 00:25:37.088 --> 00:25:49.220 iFarm / CCA: Has been for decades, you know. He's the granddaddy of community pubs and co-ops, and this kind of thing. He's the one that gave me advice on how to do how to do our pub. Yet I didn't know what acv was before I talked to Mark. 302 00:25:49.320 --> 00:25:59.569 iFarm / CCA: and I've asked Mark to come and join that meeting a a explain the great collaboration and asked him to co-lead with me or lead the pubs section. 303 00:25:59.890 --> 00:26:00.690 Andrew Maliphant: Right, yeah. 304 00:26:00.690 --> 00:26:05.199 iFarm / CCA: And he's agreed, and he's agreed to do that. So we're broadening our capacity. We've got more volunteers. We'll have specifically. 305 00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:05.940 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah. 306 00:26:05.940 --> 00:26:06.429 iFarm / CCA: The waves. 307 00:26:06.430 --> 00:26:14.150 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah, cause. That's that's right, the more the better. And then, of course, as I say, we we've all got sort of national things to be doing as well. So that's that's sounds good. Yeah. 308 00:26:14.150 --> 00:26:17.877 Chris Pointon: Just well, just around that one out. I'm talking to 309 00:26:18.330 --> 00:26:26.899 Chris Pointon: Anne Mcmillan, the librarian person from Cambridgeshire, about heading up library stuff. She's very interested in that. We've got a chat with her on Monday. 310 00:26:26.900 --> 00:26:27.580 iFarm / CCA: Fantastic. 311 00:26:27.580 --> 00:26:30.670 Chris Pointon: I would imagine she'll be in on Wednesday, unless unless 312 00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:38.010 Chris Pointon: either I cock up flogging it to her, or she's got a crash. But I'm pretty sure she'll pick up the library thing. 313 00:26:38.370 --> 00:26:44.090 iFarm / CCA: Okay, that'd be fantastic. Suffolk libraries hired an Eco warrior in residence. 314 00:26:44.280 --> 00:26:45.260 Andrew Maliphant: Oh, really. 315 00:26:45.260 --> 00:26:56.950 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, I applied to the job. I applied to the job and didn't get didn't even get an interview but they but that they would be a good port to call when you when we have a library, for instance, because I know they're interested in it. So 316 00:26:57.170 --> 00:26:58.510 iFarm / CCA: yeah, yeah. 317 00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:06.482 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah. Well, if we've got more hands on deck, come Wednesday, then there'll be. You've been getting some nice actions for each each group to get get 318 00:27:07.690 --> 00:27:08.660 Andrew Maliphant: greatly 319 00:27:08.820 --> 00:27:09.620 Andrew Maliphant: pretty good. 320 00:27:09.620 --> 00:27:10.220 Chris Pointon: Right. 321 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:19.073 Andrew Maliphant: I just had this image, Jules, of you going on a lecture to across North America. I don't know how that image came. We soft talk about the big screen, I thought, oh, there we go. 322 00:27:19.540 --> 00:27:22.749 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, we should. We should definitely all organize a Tedx. 323 00:27:22.950 --> 00:27:25.639 Andrew Maliphant: Yes, it. Why not? Why not? Indeed? 324 00:27:26.840 --> 00:27:27.950 Andrew Maliphant: I'm a guide 325 00:27:27.980 --> 00:27:29.610 Andrew Maliphant: back to the check. Yeah. 326 00:27:29.610 --> 00:27:34.119 Chris Pointon: Actually, I was going sorted back to the tape. But I'm interested. What the initial 327 00:27:34.907 --> 00:27:37.059 Chris Pointon: what we've got back on the survey 328 00:27:37.180 --> 00:27:38.300 Chris Pointon: so far 329 00:27:38.340 --> 00:27:45.680 Chris Pointon: I saw, saw that little conversation from the council officers, who, I think, rightly felt that the questions didn't feel like 330 00:27:46.190 --> 00:27:48.779 Chris Pointon: questions to council officers so much as 331 00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.515 Chris Pointon: you know, sort of people in parishes and communities, or whatever 332 00:27:54.590 --> 00:27:56.840 Chris Pointon: and I wonder whether that means 333 00:27:58.130 --> 00:27:59.350 Chris Pointon: the 334 00:27:59.740 --> 00:28:01.040 Chris Pointon: survey 335 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:07.139 Chris Pointon: But whether the survey was 336 00:28:07.570 --> 00:28:09.769 Chris Pointon: correct for the people who got it. 337 00:28:10.140 --> 00:28:11.640 Chris Pointon: and whether the 338 00:28:12.430 --> 00:28:13.220 Chris Pointon: dude 339 00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:22.429 Chris Pointon: and what we've got back from the people we sent it to have. We got some responses that have built it. I must admit I've skated along just watching. The survey seems to have been 340 00:28:22.470 --> 00:28:23.290 Chris Pointon: sort of 341 00:28:24.740 --> 00:28:33.309 Chris Pointon: happily and properly worked up between you and Jules, which is cool. I'm just interested in how it's landing now with this out there. Having seen that little snippet of a conversation with the council officers. 342 00:28:34.372 --> 00:28:38.889 iFarm / CCA: So let me let me just bring up the results. We've had a handful of responses. 343 00:28:39.970 --> 00:28:41.690 iFarm / CCA: Not a huge amount. 344 00:28:42.501 --> 00:28:48.630 iFarm / CCA: But that's not surprising. When it's when we're doing essentially direct marketing, you can re, you can expect 345 00:28:48.840 --> 00:28:51.999 iFarm / CCA: 2% of people to respond. You know. 346 00:28:52.343 --> 00:28:54.800 iFarm / CCA: if you get 4%. You're doing well, kind of thing. 347 00:28:55.315 --> 00:28:58.420 iFarm / CCA: Some of it might require more personal follow ups. 348 00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:02.583 iFarm / CCA: So we got a reply, for instance, from Denise Ludlow 349 00:29:03.120 --> 00:29:07.999 iFarm / CCA: at sport, England, who replied to Andrew, who said, Thanks, thanks for the update. Keep me informed. 350 00:29:08.620 --> 00:29:10.780 iFarm / CCA: but she hasn't completed the survey. 351 00:29:11.210 --> 00:29:12.080 iFarm / CCA: Yay. 352 00:29:12.872 --> 00:29:20.529 iFarm / CCA: so! And the key questions in the survey for Denise are, would you write as an ex expression of interest? 353 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:26.800 iFarm / CCA: And what can we Co brand and use your logo. I mean, those are 2 things that we really want to just nail with. 354 00:29:27.389 --> 00:29:37.860 iFarm / CCA: Denise, so that might require me just writing to Denise and saying, oh, Hi! Here's a survey, you know. And or there are these 2 particular questions we'd like we'd love love you, to confirm 355 00:29:38.475 --> 00:29:42.019 iFarm / CCA: in terms of the actual responses. Let me just bring it up. 356 00:29:44.740 --> 00:29:47.030 iFarm / CCA: so we haven't had as many as I would have hoped. 357 00:29:51.740 --> 00:29:55.179 Andrew Maliphant: They all got individual emails, so it shouldn't have gone to spam. 358 00:29:55.180 --> 00:30:17.470 iFarm / CCA: Oh, absolutely. But I mean, it's just like it's like most things. People are busy. There's a lot we've provided a lot of information, particularly to people that didn't come like. Here's the slides. Here's an hour to watch the, you know. Read all of this stuff, and then can you please fill out a survey. That's a lot. So people people like Greg Pearson, who's climate change partnerships manager for Norfolk. 359 00:30:17.870 --> 00:30:28.089 iFarm / CCA: I've just sort of pinged him on linkedin he's he's had his one year anniversary. So I've started a conversation, I guess, and congratulations. We've started a conversation again, but these things will be a bit slower. 360 00:30:29.010 --> 00:30:31.539 iFarm / CCA: So let me just have a look at results. 361 00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:34.280 iFarm / CCA: so 362 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:43.860 iFarm / CCA: we've had 48 views. 29 people have started the survey, but only 10 people have completed it, and actually, probably 3 of them are me. 363 00:30:44.770 --> 00:30:46.036 Andrew Maliphant: But one of them's me. 364 00:30:46.290 --> 00:30:54.879 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, absolutely. So we've got 10 responses. One of them just says in a, it just is a a a is that you, Andrew? 365 00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:56.192 Andrew Maliphant: No, no, no. 366 00:30:56.870 --> 00:30:57.569 Andrew Maliphant: no one. 367 00:30:58.010 --> 00:31:01.444 iFarm / CCA: So I've no idea who that is. But then at the end they said, 368 00:31:04.300 --> 00:31:06.310 Andrew Maliphant: Wanted to do it anomalously, did they? Hmm. 369 00:31:06.310 --> 00:31:13.480 iFarm / CCA: Well, yeah, everything's anonymous. And then they've said, would you be happy to provide an expression of interest in support of funding applications for the great collaboration that said, Yes. 370 00:31:13.910 --> 00:31:14.550 Andrew Maliphant: Alright! 371 00:31:14.778 --> 00:31:16.830 iFarm / CCA: No idea who that was. So they've just got. 372 00:31:16.830 --> 00:31:17.856 Chris Pointon: Of course. 373 00:31:18.370 --> 00:31:20.460 iFarm / CCA: No information on it. 374 00:31:20.460 --> 00:31:22.189 Andrew Maliphant: Who have already done it. Of course. 375 00:31:22.530 --> 00:31:26.799 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, obviously, Tristram from parish and line has completed it. 376 00:31:27.910 --> 00:31:32.929 iFarm / CCA: Let me just close this. Tess Rogers from Brampton Parish Council. 377 00:31:35.970 --> 00:31:37.123 iFarm / CCA: I think 378 00:31:38.130 --> 00:31:41.810 iFarm / CCA: So, Brampton have said yes to to an Eoi. 379 00:31:41.890 --> 00:31:46.539 iFarm / CCA: So these are. These are bits of information that I need to feed back to you, Andrew, to follow up on to say, Well, here's the. 380 00:31:46.540 --> 00:31:48.199 Andrew Maliphant: Okay? Bye. Bye, okay. 381 00:31:51.320 --> 00:31:53.737 iFarm / CCA: They've said no to official partnership. 382 00:31:54.680 --> 00:32:02.876 iFarm / CCA: they have so suggested a drop, a permanent drop in center, or for Ccs that kind of thing. So it's kind of handy. So that was 383 00:32:04.370 --> 00:32:13.670 iFarm / CCA: Brampton. So we've got Brampton Parish Council. We've had community energy cold chest to reply. We've had Tim, who's President of 384 00:32:14.830 --> 00:32:19.799 iFarm / CCA: Norfolk Association of Local Councils, but he's filled out on it as a on a personal basis. 385 00:32:20.396 --> 00:32:22.823 iFarm / CCA: We had Charles Fuks from Adas reply. 386 00:32:23.952 --> 00:32:26.729 iFarm / CCA: That's the Agricultural Development advisory service. 387 00:32:27.116 --> 00:32:30.140 iFarm / CCA: But again, no, to no to co branding and 388 00:32:31.710 --> 00:32:34.310 iFarm / CCA: and no to an Eoi, which is a bit of a shame. 389 00:32:34.330 --> 00:32:38.390 iFarm / CCA: I might again have a private conversation and try and convince him otherwise. 390 00:32:39.450 --> 00:32:43.380 iFarm / CCA: Emma, yeah, Emma, Emma Daniel, Senator East Cams 391 00:32:43.700 --> 00:32:45.919 iFarm / CCA: district councillors, filled it out? 392 00:32:46.513 --> 00:32:50.956 iFarm / CCA: So that's that's a win. Yeah, that's good. And basically said, 393 00:32:52.380 --> 00:32:58.460 iFarm / CCA: would you be, you say, should yes to an AI. So that's brilliant. That's an AI from a district council. 394 00:32:59.420 --> 00:33:02.290 iFarm / CCA: And she said, what other local funding sources she's 395 00:33:03.457 --> 00:33:07.750 iFarm / CCA: she suggested this, the Cpca net 0 villages fund. 396 00:33:08.630 --> 00:33:09.630 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, we get some. 397 00:33:09.930 --> 00:33:15.249 iFarm / CCA: So again, Chris, that might be the 10 K. Kind of let's do a climate action plan. No. 398 00:33:15.560 --> 00:33:17.880 Chris Pointon: They've got no one to administer the fund. It's a million. 399 00:33:18.135 --> 00:33:18.390 iFarm / CCA: Right. 400 00:33:18.390 --> 00:33:27.470 Chris Pointon: They came out 3 years ago, and they've never managed to deploy it. And part of the conversation is, how do we tap into that get all 1 million of it, and then the 10,000 would come out that but this this steps. 401 00:33:27.816 --> 00:33:32.669 iFarm / CCA: So, yeah, so do you have someone in mind for to administer that fund. 402 00:33:35.120 --> 00:33:38.619 Chris Pointon: that will probably get pushed out to the districts again eventually. 403 00:33:39.183 --> 00:33:48.440 Chris Pointon: It's not at all. It's not entirely clear there will be a fund that is giving out grants in that level, and it will be administered by the districts. They'll probably get chunk of money each for that. 404 00:33:49.430 --> 00:33:51.559 Chris Pointon: But I. It is possible 405 00:33:52.170 --> 00:33:54.379 Chris Pointon: they will decide to put it out through. 406 00:33:54.700 --> 00:33:55.210 iFarm / CCA: Yeah. 407 00:33:55.210 --> 00:34:02.924 Chris Pointon: One of the other partners, Ccf. Process. I doubt they'd put it through. Ccf. But they might. There's a organization called Pect in Peter Brothers, also. 408 00:34:03.210 --> 00:34:13.839 iFarm / CCA: There will probably be. If if that's the case, if they're gonna subcontract the work to an old, an organization, they will be required to do what's called an Rfq. Request for quotes in a tender. 409 00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:14.290 Chris Pointon: Yeah. 410 00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.409 iFarm / CCA: In a similar fashion. Community energy South. 411 00:34:18.250 --> 00:34:26.959 iFarm / CCA: you know, they've just got 1 million pounds worth of funding from Uk power networks. They're also contracted with Essex County Council, with their contracts coming up for review. 412 00:34:27.625 --> 00:34:38.020 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, that's an Rfq. For 57,000 pounds to deliver a pathways program in S. 6, that kind of thing. So, but okay, well, back to the survey. Yes, that's an AI 413 00:34:38.650 --> 00:34:42.469 Chris Pointon: By the way, Emma Danielsen would be the person you would be asking for 414 00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:49.379 Chris Pointon: a 1 off if if she says she hasn't got budget, then that might make it harder for Peter to represent it. You can. 415 00:34:49.380 --> 00:34:50.290 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, absolutely. 416 00:34:50.290 --> 00:34:54.097 Chris Pointon: I don't. I don't see any reason, not. She's obviously engaging, which is great. 417 00:34:54.699 --> 00:34:55.029 iFarm / CCA: Release. 418 00:34:55.280 --> 00:35:03.560 iFarm / CCA: and the next. The next particular pertinent question that she answered was, would you be interested in forming a community plan action plan in your local area. Yes. 419 00:35:04.064 --> 00:35:08.540 iFarm / CCA: so she said, yes, and so, and also will give us an ei 420 00:35:09.012 --> 00:35:13.960 iFarm / CCA: she she also se, suggested Ely. Library for CC. Pop up. 421 00:35:14.240 --> 00:35:15.100 iFarm / CCA: and that's precisely. 422 00:35:15.100 --> 00:35:18.820 Chris Pointon: What I talked to Anna about. That's that is her patch on Monday. 423 00:35:18.820 --> 00:35:34.769 iFarm / CCA: So that's it. If we've got the support of the library, we've got the support, the community group. We've got the support to the District Council and the District Council said yes to any Oi, and yes, to doing a community kind of action plan in it. That that's a whole lot of pieces right there. So that's result. 424 00:35:35.190 --> 00:35:36.760 iFarm / CCA: That's really cool. 425 00:35:37.378 --> 00:35:41.799 iFarm / CCA: Then we've got Stuart. Obviously, he's already on our team. Offering. 426 00:35:41.910 --> 00:35:43.110 iFarm / CCA: And we've got 427 00:35:43.550 --> 00:35:47.880 iFarm / CCA: conversations started with Essex County Council in funding that 428 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:55.759 iFarm / CCA: There's a Stansted Airport Community fund he's recommended as well we could. We could look at 429 00:35:56.881 --> 00:35:58.728 iFarm / CCA: yes, he wants to 430 00:35:59.370 --> 00:36:03.729 iFarm / CCA: Yes, he wants to do community climate action plan, as we know. Yes, he'll give us an expression of interest. 431 00:36:04.580 --> 00:36:06.420 iFarm / CCA: So again, that's 1 to follow up on 432 00:36:08.083 --> 00:36:11.486 iFarm / CCA: so and then that that was it, that's all we've got really 433 00:36:13.390 --> 00:36:15.240 Chris Pointon: That's a little positive vibes there. 434 00:36:15.670 --> 00:36:20.809 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, 2 of 2. 2 of them were me. I can't actually see a response from you, Andrew. 435 00:36:21.080 --> 00:36:22.130 Andrew Maliphant: Haven't did it yet. Yeah. 436 00:36:22.130 --> 00:36:33.139 iFarm / CCA: Oh, okay, that's why you'll be one of the 48 this started. But we've we've a lot. We've got a lot of people. We've got a lot of people that started it. So we've got 30 people have started it. 437 00:36:33.370 --> 00:36:37.485 iFarm / CCA: And then we've got about 6 people have actually finished it. 438 00:36:38.130 --> 00:36:48.749 iFarm / CCA: So you're right, Chris. It might be a case of we're not asking the right questions, but what I would propose is, bonnie is getting much more involved now Bonnie is a marketing strategist. 439 00:36:49.130 --> 00:36:52.529 iFarm / CCA: and I would hope that this piece of work in terms of surveying 440 00:36:52.640 --> 00:36:58.519 iFarm / CCA: is, you know, we kind of. I kind of do that with Bonnie and try and get greater engagement. 441 00:37:00.540 --> 00:37:04.199 iFarm / CCA: but we've that means we've got some very low hanging fruit here. 442 00:37:04.270 --> 00:37:11.539 iFarm / CCA: particularly with East cams for community climate action planning, particularly with Essex for community climate action planning 443 00:37:12.020 --> 00:37:17.919 iFarm / CCA: and once we've got yes, from either of those, then it's very easy to get one from Suffolk or from Norfolk. 444 00:37:18.640 --> 00:37:19.310 iFarm / CCA: Yeah. 445 00:37:20.500 --> 00:37:31.040 Andrew Maliphant: Well, I still got to get back to all our South cams. shall I do we? Do? Do you have a regular phone call with a Chris, or shall I just ring her through the switchboard? 446 00:37:34.130 --> 00:37:38.809 Chris Pointon: I would drop her a note and and set up a time for a call. That's probably the thing. Okay. 447 00:37:41.090 --> 00:37:44.441 Chris Pointon: let that way. You know that it's on her schedule and stuff. 448 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:48.169 Andrew Maliphant: I wanted to speak to you beforehand, because in case there's any other, you know. 449 00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:48.900 Andrew Maliphant: bits and. 450 00:37:48.900 --> 00:37:51.310 Chris Pointon: No, I don't think so. As I say, I think. 451 00:37:55.520 --> 00:38:02.399 Chris Pointon: yeah, I think this comes under the same as if they'd filled it in, and we'd needed to follow up with them about it. I think if you if you 452 00:38:02.740 --> 00:38:04.900 Chris Pointon: put up and and yeah. 453 00:38:05.570 --> 00:38:09.190 Chris Pointon: yeah, do you think a call is necessary? Or is the ask simply. 454 00:38:09.190 --> 00:38:22.029 Andrew Maliphant: Well, I but she said she sent, you know. Is it is it time for the is it the right time for digital council to get involved in this number. That's quite a broad question. My instinct would be to discuss it rather than just trying. Send her an written email reply. 455 00:38:22.030 --> 00:38:22.840 Chris Pointon: That sounds great. 456 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:24.833 Andrew Maliphant: Cause. I don't know where she's coming from, you know. So that's. 457 00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:28.859 Chris Pointon: Go for it, but you know she's good people, so I. 458 00:38:29.210 --> 00:38:31.843 Andrew Maliphant: She came to the mediates. Do, yeah. 459 00:38:32.474 --> 00:38:48.770 iFarm / CCA: Graham is just asking in the chat those have said yes to an AI. Do they need further prompting? And the simple answer to that is, yes, we need to do a follow up thanks for expression of the just, acknowledge the response on the survey. You know, brilliant, we're really pleased that you wanna do this here hit. Just fill this out 460 00:38:49.415 --> 00:39:01.039 iFarm / CCA: equally. There are others that haven't completed the survey that we still need neo I from or or for more formally, you know, and that that would just be personal conversations. I think, Chris, at this stage. 461 00:39:01.620 --> 00:39:02.330 Andrew Maliphant: I don't know. 462 00:39:03.900 --> 00:39:04.720 Andrew Maliphant: Yep. 463 00:39:06.650 --> 00:39:08.278 Andrew Maliphant: yeah, I've got. I've got the 464 00:39:08.900 --> 00:39:09.820 Andrew Maliphant: the draft 465 00:39:10.290 --> 00:39:17.269 Andrew Maliphant: ui for people to customize. Yeah, that can be shared again. Yeah. So if there are, 466 00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:22.490 Andrew Maliphant: is, is it? If there, if, Jules, if you, you're hook keeping on the replies, if 467 00:39:22.600 --> 00:39:27.820 Andrew Maliphant: if you want to parcel out? Who does the follow up? Depending on what? Said, does that make sense? Yeah, please do. 468 00:39:27.820 --> 00:39:46.760 iFarm / CCA: Absolutely. I mean majority will be just sending to you, Andrew, for some of you know. Here's an he's an Ei. Those that said yes, to commute. I mean, it was really only the it was East Camis and Stewart, I think, said yes to the Cca. Planning, and those. So those are 2 all 469 00:39:46.820 --> 00:39:48.049 iFarm / CCA: I'll follow up on 470 00:39:48.160 --> 00:39:50.064 iFarm / CCA: in terms of but 471 00:39:50.600 --> 00:39:59.290 iFarm / CCA: with East cams. For instance, if you ask for the ui and I go in and say, great! Let's move forward with some Cca stuff working with Peter and. 472 00:40:01.120 --> 00:40:04.003 Andrew Maliphant: Pencil movement. There you go. 473 00:40:05.190 --> 00:40:09.277 Andrew Maliphant: Yes. Sorry. What I refer to as the ironfest in the iron glove. Yeah. 474 00:40:10.860 --> 00:40:19.789 Andrew Maliphant: please. Like that. Okay, thanks for everybody that's great update there. Oh, I did speak with the Peter 475 00:40:19.910 --> 00:40:30.319 Andrew Maliphant: pecked at Peterborough City Trust this morning. They'd got in touch. They're gonna complete the survey as well. They have done some funding. They have done some teaching. They've done quite a lot of stuff. 476 00:40:30.824 --> 00:40:36.840 Andrew Maliphant: So that's I think that's a per solid foot on the ground in in Peterborough, which is good. 477 00:40:37.359 --> 00:40:43.860 Andrew Maliphant: So yeah, they're going to come on board. They they're going to say I met. There's the lady called Gemma Burley. 478 00:40:44.458 --> 00:40:47.879 Andrew Maliphant: who came to May the 8, th 479 00:40:47.890 --> 00:40:51.489 Andrew Maliphant: and also her boss. A chap called Tim. 480 00:40:52.116 --> 00:40:54.755 Andrew Maliphant: His name is really Stuart, I think. 481 00:40:55.630 --> 00:40:58.350 Andrew Maliphant: So that that was her her chief executive. 482 00:40:59.030 --> 00:41:01.960 Andrew Maliphant: So that's that's pretty solid. So that's good 483 00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:03.380 Andrew Maliphant: boom. 484 00:41:03.970 --> 00:41:07.919 Andrew Maliphant: and they've offered to. They have a fundraiser within their team. 485 00:41:08.300 --> 00:41:16.640 Andrew Maliphant: So they said if we if I was, we talked a bit about the Luftwaffe bit, they said, Well, if if they, if I wanted to share the draft with them they'd be happy to to comment on it. So that's fine. 486 00:41:17.970 --> 00:41:22.740 Andrew Maliphant: I mean, if any partners wants to have a look at the bid. Of course they can. You know it's a joint bid really 487 00:41:25.020 --> 00:41:27.731 Andrew Maliphant: great, and we do have time calls for 488 00:41:28.090 --> 00:41:33.461 Andrew Maliphant: So Covid sick, so I don't covered the survey. Was there something else about 489 00:41:33.850 --> 00:41:35.162 Andrew Maliphant: Anything else on 490 00:41:36.588 --> 00:41:39.100 Andrew Maliphant: parish online? Graham. 491 00:41:39.520 --> 00:41:47.070 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Well, we, we, Jules and I, had a talk with Tristan on Tuesday, and basically confirmed the arrangements for 492 00:41:47.610 --> 00:41:55.919 Graham Stoddart-Stones: publishing data. So we can do anything we like in our copy of X Map and produce it as a public map on our website. 493 00:41:56.230 --> 00:41:56.720 Andrew Maliphant: Bride. 494 00:41:56.910 --> 00:41:59.449 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Once we've got the 495 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:07.932 Graham Stoddart-Stones: basically the fields of any particular item that we're happy to go with. Then we go to geosphere and say, would you publish this. 496 00:42:08.610 --> 00:42:09.110 Andrew Maliphant: On it. 497 00:42:09.110 --> 00:42:12.980 Graham Stoddart-Stones: And again. Yes, I don't think there'll be any issues there. 498 00:42:13.170 --> 00:42:13.620 Andrew Maliphant: And it. 499 00:42:14.660 --> 00:42:17.070 Andrew Maliphant: So how soon can we have a copy to play with. 500 00:42:17.680 --> 00:42:19.949 Graham Stoddart-Stones: We've got one we can. We can start as soon as you like. 501 00:42:19.950 --> 00:42:21.070 Andrew Maliphant: Oh, we've got one. Okay. 502 00:42:21.070 --> 00:42:32.719 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yes, so I'm very happy to give people access to it. Just have a question whether you all want to have your own individual account. So should we have just one combined login, that 503 00:42:33.410 --> 00:42:37.390 Graham Stoddart-Stones: the one advantage of having a combined login is that 504 00:42:37.430 --> 00:42:46.889 Graham Stoddart-Stones: bookmarks in parish online slash X map are very individual. So if you create bookmarks, you'd like the rest of us to see we have to log in with the account that created them. 505 00:42:46.890 --> 00:42:47.680 Andrew Maliphant: Sure. 506 00:42:47.680 --> 00:42:50.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones: It's quite a good idea to have a single account. 507 00:42:50.520 --> 00:42:52.830 Andrew Maliphant: Do we need? Do we need a single account 508 00:42:52.940 --> 00:42:58.919 Andrew Maliphant: because of the adding in the data loads, because we need to have a discussion about it, and then it goes in under one hand. Does that make sense. 509 00:43:00.570 --> 00:43:02.080 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Say that again. Sorry, Andrew. 510 00:43:02.080 --> 00:43:08.970 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah, if we're gonna have new data, there is it? It makes a bit of sense. If it's just one person adding them, isn't it rather than everybody, adding in tons of stuff. 511 00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:18.610 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah, I I suspect people, it's gonna be very much a time based thing. The only person who really got time to learn and do it is probably myself. 512 00:43:18.950 --> 00:43:20.140 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. And you know. 513 00:43:20.140 --> 00:43:21.820 Andrew Maliphant: The Lord's love is a volunteer. Yeah. 514 00:43:22.265 --> 00:43:25.380 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I speak English. Yeah, we've all got. 515 00:43:25.380 --> 00:43:28.818 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah. And I've said that before, yeah. 516 00:43:29.310 --> 00:43:38.080 iFarm / CCA: Yes, that would be, that'd be grand. Just have a plan. Let's get some data on there. We can get transition towns and foe data in terms of groups just straight on there. That kind of thing. 517 00:43:39.370 --> 00:43:44.669 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah, I was mentioning to peck this morning about the 518 00:43:44.930 --> 00:43:49.999 Andrew Maliphant: the National network for joining up public data. So they were quite interested in that as well. 519 00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:54.920 Andrew Maliphant: so. But if we've got a version that's brilliant, we can. That's great news. 520 00:43:56.360 --> 00:44:00.154 Andrew Maliphant: Okay, cookie. So that's good. And then, in terms of the. 521 00:44:00.500 --> 00:44:04.229 Chris Pointon: On the accounts, guys, can I propose we we do both 522 00:44:05.972 --> 00:44:07.910 Chris Pointon: have a shared and an individual. 523 00:44:08.730 --> 00:44:09.340 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 524 00:44:09.340 --> 00:44:10.600 Chris Pointon: Sort of play 525 00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:20.359 Chris Pointon: in the individual one, and if something looks good we can bring it in and bookmark it and stuff. So you know I feel like, otherwise we will probably end up 526 00:44:20.640 --> 00:44:24.760 Chris Pointon: and we sort of use the we use the main one for stuff that's got a little bit further along. 527 00:44:26.890 --> 00:44:29.980 Chris Pointon: because we can always just share a screenshot or whatever 528 00:44:30.410 --> 00:44:33.270 Chris Pointon: to talk about it. In the meantime, I just feel like 529 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:42.209 Chris Pointon: I have a feeling that it will get a little bit muddy otherwise, in the shared accounts we don't be sure who who changed what and how, and that's going to get hard to work out. 530 00:44:42.710 --> 00:44:43.689 Chris Pointon: Yeah, okay. 531 00:44:44.560 --> 00:44:51.659 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, equally. If there's only one account I don't know what it's like with multiple logins at the same time, or collaborative working probably won't work. 532 00:44:52.240 --> 00:44:55.949 Graham Stoddart-Stones: No, it has no problems. That's the full multi user system. 533 00:44:56.260 --> 00:45:00.289 iFarm / CCA: Oh, right? Okay. So you can all log in with the same username and email at different locations at the same time. 534 00:45:00.290 --> 00:45:01.599 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Same time. Yes. 535 00:45:01.600 --> 00:45:03.249 iFarm / CCA: Alright. Okay, right? 536 00:45:03.340 --> 00:45:12.909 iFarm / CCA: But yeah, equally like Chris says. Might want to have our own accounts to have a muck around and get it wrong without mucking up what we've done on the main account, you know. 537 00:45:12.910 --> 00:45:13.530 Andrew Maliphant: Bro. 538 00:45:13.700 --> 00:45:15.700 Chris Pointon: What I can do is set this up 539 00:45:15.970 --> 00:45:16.930 Chris Pointon: a group 540 00:45:17.550 --> 00:45:18.859 Chris Pointon: in Google 541 00:45:19.240 --> 00:45:21.469 Chris Pointon: for a group inbox, basically. 542 00:45:21.650 --> 00:45:22.220 iFarm / CCA: Yeah. 543 00:45:22.220 --> 00:45:27.327 Chris Pointon: If anybody does need need to reset. So we I'll I'll give you an email address for that. What should we call it? 544 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:29.030 Chris Pointon: X map 545 00:45:29.540 --> 00:45:31.870 Chris Pointon: at great collaboration.uk. How about that? 546 00:45:32.140 --> 00:45:32.750 iFarm / CCA: Yeah. 547 00:45:33.730 --> 00:45:35.000 Chris Pointon: I'll do that now. 548 00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:36.600 Chris Pointon: Stickers all in it. 549 00:45:37.630 --> 00:45:44.649 Andrew Maliphant: So Graham's gonna be the editor of the official version. But meantime we can now have a play separately. Is that what I'm paying? Yeah. 550 00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:52.649 Chris Pointon: I think we all get to potentially do stuff in the official version. So it's not lumped on Paul Graham. But we've got owned accounts that. 551 00:45:52.950 --> 00:45:55.452 iFarm / CCA: If we want. And if we have to have the yeah. 552 00:45:55.680 --> 00:45:59.959 Andrew Maliphant: I've I've I've never really used parish online. So I'm a complete novice. So. 553 00:45:59.960 --> 00:46:00.836 iFarm / CCA: Yeah. 554 00:46:02.590 --> 00:46:03.309 Andrew Maliphant: But if you. 555 00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:05.719 iFarm / CCA: With parish online. 556 00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:07.649 iFarm / CCA: We confirmed 557 00:46:07.860 --> 00:46:13.990 iFarm / CCA: that we would wait for the 3 months trial until we're ready with some kind of Sso map in pilot. 558 00:46:14.950 --> 00:46:16.330 iFarm / CCA: We confirm that 559 00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:18.360 iFarm / CCA: during that period 560 00:46:18.530 --> 00:46:46.699 iFarm / CCA: community groups would have access to parish online, either the full version or just you know what we've got in the great collaboration. Equally any layers that we upload. Yes, the, you know, have access to an ongoing basis. And of course, if accounts will then subscribes the community group also have access to parish online. We've described just putting the X map version via an iframe straight into highlight. So that's a conversation with highlight. 561 00:46:47.313 --> 00:46:54.976 iFarm / CCA: But yeah, much much as per the dev chat where I propose to splash screen. You know, we just we I frame it 562 00:46:55.820 --> 00:47:01.639 iFarm / CCA: and that's that's a really good starting point, you know, that's a really good. When we can say we're, we're actually launching a thing. 563 00:47:02.404 --> 00:47:13.759 iFarm / CCA: When we've got those those component bits in we had long conversations with Tristram about data sets, you know, ex university, which friends of the earth use versus Rna's, which is 564 00:47:15.230 --> 00:47:19.879 iFarm / CCA: Anglia Ruskin or University, I believe. In East Anglia they're slightly different. 565 00:47:20.180 --> 00:47:27.510 iFarm / CCA: equally the wind data, for instance, and we won't win Stefan's data, and I'm not sure where Stefan gets his data from. 566 00:47:27.780 --> 00:47:28.980 iFarm / CCA: They're different. 567 00:47:29.160 --> 00:47:32.540 iFarm / CCA: you know. So we we had a discussion about well, which data? 568 00:47:33.027 --> 00:47:41.250 iFarm / CCA: You know, we should be displaying with the caveat that we will understand. None of all of all of the data is imperfect. 569 00:47:42.295 --> 00:47:48.519 iFarm / CCA: And it's just a starting point for desktop feasibility study rather than any detailed stuff. 570 00:47:48.540 --> 00:47:50.559 iFarm / CCA: But we do need to decide which. 571 00:47:50.980 --> 00:48:12.899 iFarm / CCA: and obviously that we've then had a conversation with Toby from friends of the earth which is fantastic. He was on our banter session. That's a that's a coup. Well done, big up Graham. Getting Toby on this talk about data, and we've got then got concurrent conversations with friends of the Earth in the environmental data network about that. And following our banter session. 572 00:48:12.900 --> 00:48:25.799 iFarm / CCA: there was, there was, there was lots to be discussed about things like environment, you know, biodiversity mapping and citizen science and all of that kind of stuff. So that's again, that's that's really interesting. 573 00:48:26.882 --> 00:48:29.060 iFarm / CCA: And with friends of the earth 574 00:48:29.850 --> 00:48:37.159 iFarm / CCA: again, what amazing partner! I mean, we should. We need to capitalize on that conversation and and get friends of the earth to 575 00:48:38.140 --> 00:48:45.699 iFarm / CCA: give us an expression of interest for the national lottery bid, and to say, yes, we want to be a partner. You can use our logo, you know. 576 00:48:47.080 --> 00:48:49.730 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah, I've got to. 577 00:48:50.860 --> 00:48:53.910 Andrew Maliphant: I just find on on. We've got our our 578 00:48:53.930 --> 00:48:58.498 Andrew Maliphant: strategic contacts on a on the Google drive at some place, haven't we? 579 00:48:59.010 --> 00:49:00.620 Andrew Maliphant: If it was under comms? 580 00:49:02.750 --> 00:49:11.060 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I've got contact with both the CEO and with Toby from yesterday or Wednesday, so I can certainly follow up with that if you like. 581 00:49:11.600 --> 00:49:16.631 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah, I'm just trying to remember the name of the lady from Friends of the earth I spoke to some time ago. 582 00:49:17.690 --> 00:49:18.309 Andrew Maliphant: But yes, but. 583 00:49:18.310 --> 00:49:20.895 iFarm / CCA: Please. Yes, please, Graham, if you can follow up with Toby. 584 00:49:21.130 --> 00:49:24.040 Graham Stoddart-Stones: I think, very encouraging call, isn't it? 585 00:49:24.380 --> 00:49:34.439 iFarm / CCA: Yeah. And perhaps CC, me, that'd be handy. And I'll also carry. I'll have. I'll also carry on conversations in the Forum and Environmental data network chat with Toby. 586 00:49:35.700 --> 00:49:40.903 iFarm / CCA: But yes, we need. We need to kind of get in bed with and have close relationships with friends of the earth. 587 00:49:41.140 --> 00:49:43.089 Andrew Maliphant: Sandra Bell, who's 1 of the 588 00:49:43.520 --> 00:49:51.522 Andrew Maliphant: leading personalities? I spoke to says here it's 29th of March, not 2023. So it's been a bit. 589 00:49:52.210 --> 00:49:52.540 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Yeah. 590 00:49:52.540 --> 00:49:58.715 Andrew Maliphant: No, so that's but I haven't spoken too much lately. Yeah, I've just been looking under partners. We've got all the 591 00:49:59.690 --> 00:50:04.019 Andrew Maliphant: you know, the various organizations we're trying to reach. As to who's getting in touch. And 592 00:50:04.900 --> 00:50:08.475 Andrew Maliphant: you know, Graham, you've been using it for your banter bookings, haven't you? 593 00:50:09.682 --> 00:50:18.489 Andrew Maliphant: so you know, we could easily see. But I mean Ashton. I know we don't seem to contact for their national crew on this score. 594 00:50:18.900 --> 00:50:19.760 iFarm / CCA: The zoom. 595 00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:21.660 Andrew Maliphant: There's always more we can do on these 596 00:50:21.850 --> 00:50:25.350 Andrew Maliphant: part of things in between all the other things we're doing. Of course. 597 00:50:26.410 --> 00:50:33.160 Andrew Maliphant: one of the things that occurs to me is I need to at at at the at the find. One is the psychological moment 598 00:50:33.340 --> 00:50:46.150 Andrew Maliphant: to to say to Nalk, you said you would to support us as and when we got to a certain stage, look at the pilot, look at the stuff that we're doing, can we now? Perhaps start having you up your divert support? 599 00:50:47.930 --> 00:50:48.910 Andrew Maliphant: the 600 00:50:49.110 --> 00:50:59.750 Andrew Maliphant: I I've I've got a copy of the letter that was advised of the things I should check out before they support us. I mean, one of them was funding. But I think it's also about getting 601 00:50:59.960 --> 00:51:04.699 Andrew Maliphant: choosing the moment within now. But I think that that's that's something I need to to work out on 602 00:51:05.100 --> 00:51:08.890 Andrew Maliphant: one of the things I raised. The meeting is 603 00:51:08.970 --> 00:51:16.210 Andrew Maliphant: we've got some things that we're developing on the Dev website. There's a question of timing as to when we put them on the 604 00:51:16.410 --> 00:51:21.970 Andrew Maliphant: live site. If we're not ready to put the local councils sign on yet. 605 00:51:23.680 --> 00:51:32.680 Andrew Maliphant: The what we could stop publishing the collective actions on the live site. Because that's that's up and running on the 606 00:51:33.600 --> 00:51:41.285 Andrew Maliphant: on the dev site already. That is another way of showing to all and sundry partners and funders that things are developing. 607 00:51:42.330 --> 00:51:45.380 Andrew Maliphant: Are we happy to proceed with that? 608 00:51:46.150 --> 00:51:47.109 Andrew Maliphant: But the question is. 609 00:51:47.110 --> 00:51:52.970 Chris Pointon: Who who's registering to do that? And are we now creating registrations that we're gonna have to back out later. 610 00:51:53.310 --> 00:51:59.360 Andrew Maliphant: Well, the only people that register at the moment are individuals. Through the current live registration. 611 00:52:02.370 --> 00:52:06.919 Chris Pointon: Yes, but if we put the group actions up there, our groups going to be able to register. 612 00:52:07.610 --> 00:52:12.505 Andrew Maliphant: Well, not unless we make that available which goes back to the sort of single sign on discussion, doesn't it? 613 00:52:12.750 --> 00:52:16.829 Chris Pointon: So so we can put the group actions up there, but they can't at the moment do them 614 00:52:16.860 --> 00:52:19.420 Chris Pointon: that. That's why I'm trying to work out whether the 2 are connected or not. 615 00:52:19.570 --> 00:52:26.659 Andrew Maliphant: Oh, yes, that's right. If you're if you're if you're a group, you need to have be registered, and then you, you adopt an action. That's quite right. 616 00:52:27.386 --> 00:52:29.290 Andrew Maliphant: There's nothing to stop 617 00:52:29.810 --> 00:52:34.570 Andrew Maliphant: an individual line. It's signing on as an individual. And then they say they're gonna do a group action 618 00:52:34.990 --> 00:52:37.170 Andrew Maliphant: that that would be possible. 619 00:52:37.170 --> 00:52:41.700 Chris Pointon: So. But is that what would happen at the moment without a group registration, capability. 620 00:52:41.700 --> 00:52:44.140 Andrew Maliphant: That's what would happen at the moment. Yeah, right? 621 00:52:45.302 --> 00:53:03.140 Andrew Maliphant: It's just it's no. We're we're being careful. We're plotting this with some tagging. This is all the rest of it. But it's a question of 2 things. One is, when do we do stuff for for operational purposes? And when do we do stuff for promotional purposes, showing people what we're doing and how it's developing? 622 00:53:03.890 --> 00:53:07.409 Andrew Maliphant: So it was more on the second line I was thinking about in terms of putting. 623 00:53:07.630 --> 00:53:10.360 Chris Pointon: When you say showing who which people are we showing. 624 00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:15.810 Andrew Maliphant: Well, the people I've just been talking about is now you know. How do I? How do we say to now? You said 625 00:53:16.050 --> 00:53:19.469 Andrew Maliphant: you wouldn't look at this again until the summer. Well, it's now the summer. 626 00:53:20.237 --> 00:53:24.120 Andrew Maliphant: What can we show to them to say this is operating. This is working 627 00:53:24.630 --> 00:53:27.389 Andrew Maliphant: pilots, some funding coming in. Yeah. Jills. 628 00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:35.149 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, I absolutely. We need to go back to them and show per and show the amazing progress that we've made. 629 00:53:35.630 --> 00:53:38.600 iFarm / CCA: and that we now have a suite of 630 00:53:38.650 --> 00:53:42.199 iFarm / CCA: associations of local councils formally supporting us. 631 00:53:42.640 --> 00:53:47.989 iFarm / CCA: That's it's gotta be worth something to now in terms of evident facing what we're doing. 632 00:53:48.636 --> 00:53:57.163 iFarm / CCA: Equally, I would suggest a good next step might be to. So we've got the now climate emergency network on 633 00:53:57.870 --> 00:54:01.727 iFarm / CCA: chat. I'm in there. Find it. 634 00:54:03.146 --> 00:54:07.256 iFarm / CCA: And they recently had a presentation from George Petty. 635 00:54:08.220 --> 00:54:13.120 iFarm / CCA: so I think we should ask if we could do a presentation at their next one 636 00:54:13.720 --> 00:54:22.040 iFarm / CCA: cause. That's just like banter session. Basically, it's just asking, can we present to your this the the now climate emergency network chat. 637 00:54:22.200 --> 00:54:22.890 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah. 638 00:54:23.580 --> 00:54:31.584 iFarm / CCA: Good people. You know, we can start putting posts in the chat in the Whatsapp, and we can specifically say to now, can we be the next presenter. 639 00:54:31.870 --> 00:54:44.339 Andrew Maliphant: You could do that. I'll speak. I'll speak to Chris Paul. Person. He's he's our friend on the inside there. You know. He's he's loyal to his employees, but he's very clear how corporate they can be from time to time. 640 00:54:44.627 --> 00:54:49.339 Andrew Maliphant: and he but he certainly does set the agenda for the quarterly meetings. So that's no problem. 641 00:54:49.520 --> 00:54:52.060 Andrew Maliphant: It's just that. The 642 00:54:55.520 --> 00:55:03.299 Andrew Maliphant: I mean, I'm see. Take up your point, Chris. I mean, the collective actions is a step that we have taken, and we gonna extend further, and we can have in there. 643 00:55:04.830 --> 00:55:06.410 Andrew Maliphant: I don't know how 644 00:55:06.600 --> 00:55:09.110 Andrew Maliphant: much of a pain it would be for 645 00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:14.320 Andrew Maliphant: community groups to join as individuals and start doing stuff on the live site as opposed to 646 00:55:14.450 --> 00:55:18.619 Andrew Maliphant: the more slightly more detailed login as a community group, and or as a local council. 647 00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:26.429 Andrew Maliphant: let me get up. Let me get. Let me remind myself how to get onto the current login so that we can 648 00:55:26.730 --> 00:55:27.879 Andrew Maliphant: have a shifty 649 00:55:29.486 --> 00:55:33.213 Andrew Maliphant: was there anything else? And we wanted to talk about? It's only 4 min to one now, isn't it? 650 00:55:36.050 --> 00:55:37.960 Chris Pointon: I've got a couple of 651 00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:43.150 Chris Pointon: things from tic tech that I 652 00:55:43.180 --> 00:55:44.890 Chris Pointon: very briefly share. 653 00:55:45.646 --> 00:55:46.160 Chris Pointon: They're not. 654 00:55:46.390 --> 00:55:49.689 Chris Pointon: So there was. There was a presentation yesterday 655 00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:51.080 Chris Pointon: by a group 656 00:55:51.350 --> 00:55:57.270 Chris Pointon: who did a coordinated response to the Pakistan flooding. 657 00:55:57.400 --> 00:55:59.850 Chris Pointon: where citizens reported in 658 00:55:59.950 --> 00:56:03.910 Chris Pointon: so where aid stations were open, where they had suppliers. 659 00:56:03.910 --> 00:56:04.650 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Okay. 660 00:56:05.140 --> 00:56:05.930 Graham Stoddart-Stones: Alright! 661 00:56:05.930 --> 00:56:16.110 Chris Pointon: Where people were stuck in that sort of thing, and they used a data collection platform called Usha Hidey that I hadn't heard of before, but seemed to be relatively well known amongst the people around me. 662 00:56:16.691 --> 00:56:27.359 Chris Pointon: That seems to be a really interesting citizen science data collection platform that integrates with like SMS and Whatsapp and things like that for people to report stuff. 663 00:56:27.490 --> 00:56:28.440 Chris Pointon: And 664 00:56:28.570 --> 00:56:33.479 Chris Pointon: I, it seems like that might be an interesting platform for us to take a look at, for 665 00:56:33.670 --> 00:56:36.130 Chris Pointon: you know we were talking about having a layer between 666 00:56:36.170 --> 00:56:48.219 Chris Pointon: as sorry which a layer we provide between community data collection and what goes on the map. That means that we can coordinate and and convene. So they had hundreds of volunteers working to 667 00:56:49.324 --> 00:57:00.445 Chris Pointon: aggregate this information that's coming in from the field and turn it into stuff that they can be shared with charities and aid agencies who are responding to the floods. And it was quite a success story all around from a quite 668 00:57:00.830 --> 00:57:01.729 Chris Pointon: you heard 669 00:57:03.040 --> 00:57:05.689 Chris Pointon: extreme situation in Pakistan. So 670 00:57:06.410 --> 00:57:07.510 Chris Pointon: I think a 671 00:57:07.930 --> 00:57:15.319 Chris Pointon: that's it's an open source platform. It looks pretty cool. I think we should add that into our collective thinking. 672 00:57:17.030 --> 00:57:22.319 Chris Pointon: was there anything else that was for Gc. Victor in particular? 673 00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:36.069 Chris Pointon: There's quite a lot around climate data collection and community stuff. 674 00:57:36.850 --> 00:57:37.320 Chris Pointon: With 675 00:57:39.060 --> 00:57:43.624 Chris Pointon: I met someone from the Tuc who said they'd be interested in great collaboration. 676 00:57:44.776 --> 00:57:46.204 Chris Pointon: notes that that's 677 00:57:47.770 --> 00:57:50.069 Chris Pointon: felt like, that's another 678 00:57:50.170 --> 00:57:51.450 Chris Pointon: potential 679 00:57:51.530 --> 00:57:54.030 Chris Pointon: grouping a bit like our pubs and everything else. 680 00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:57.330 Andrew Maliphant: Union, Jimmy. 681 00:57:57.330 --> 00:57:57.900 Chris Pointon: Yeah. 682 00:57:58.230 --> 00:57:58.850 iFarm / CCA: Yes. 683 00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:09.270 iFarm / CCA: I've already had opening conversations about community climax and planning with trade unions trade and the Tuc, and specifically, Tc, locally. 684 00:58:09.846 --> 00:58:14.003 iFarm / CCA: I also had the opportunity to discuss it with Mick Lynch. And 685 00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:16.000 iFarm / CCA: and 686 00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:17.120 iFarm / CCA: yeah. 687 00:58:17.430 --> 00:58:22.219 iFarm / CCA: and this is, this is a while ago. I think it was last year or the year before. 688 00:58:22.300 --> 00:58:28.510 iFarm / CCA: And so it wasn't specifically about the great collaboration. It was more about community benefits, societies and community climate action. 689 00:58:30.430 --> 00:58:38.470 iFarm / CCA: Mick's response was interesting because, he said, I have to remind you it's the rail and maritime transport museum, and I represent a lot of oil and gas workers. 690 00:58:40.520 --> 00:58:41.015 Andrew Maliphant: Off. 691 00:58:42.168 --> 00:58:48.779 iFarm / CCA: But that said, I think the Tcs and Regional Tucs in particular are would be an absolute 692 00:58:48.980 --> 00:58:50.340 iFarm / CCA: gold mine. It. 693 00:58:50.360 --> 00:58:55.180 Chris Pointon: Yeah, I I that's what I was thinking, too. There is a southeast region. 694 00:58:55.460 --> 00:59:01.399 Chris Pointon: So there is an east of England region of Tuc, that pretty much maps to our stuff. I think it might be Bedfordshire, but 695 00:59:02.710 --> 00:59:03.893 Chris Pointon: And there is a 696 00:59:04.460 --> 00:59:06.970 Chris Pointon: There's also a Tuc Central. 697 00:59:07.375 --> 00:59:07.650 iFarm / CCA: Good. 698 00:59:07.650 --> 00:59:13.751 Chris Pointon: Group. So I I think it's worth the sniff around. I'll I'll follow up on that. 699 00:59:14.110 --> 00:59:20.409 iFarm / CCA: Is definitely worth it. Is cause climate is a is is a health and safety work issue. 700 00:59:20.955 --> 00:59:26.320 iFarm / CCA: You know. It's too hot. It's too cold. It's flooded, you know. It's like, hang on 701 00:59:26.710 --> 00:59:31.749 iFarm / CCA: as a union. We need to be doing something so. And there was some that are obviously keener than others. 702 00:59:32.860 --> 00:59:33.370 iFarm / CCA: so. 703 00:59:33.670 --> 00:59:36.429 Andrew Maliphant: That's not a surprise, is it? No, we've gone across that. 704 00:59:36.620 --> 00:59:45.981 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, united. Particularly good. Gmb, obviously, not not so great. Cause I get again, they represent a lot of oil and gas workers. So. 705 00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:50.919 Andrew Maliphant: The thing about oil and gas workers and electricians and plumbers is 706 00:59:50.940 --> 00:59:57.010 Andrew Maliphant: securing their their jobs and their future prospects by upgrading their their skills training. This isn't just about. 707 00:59:57.010 --> 00:59:57.550 iFarm / CCA: Where's it? 708 00:59:57.550 --> 00:59:58.400 Andrew Maliphant: Scratch. 709 00:59:59.290 --> 00:59:59.950 iFarm / CCA: Yes, but. 710 00:59:59.950 --> 01:00:02.429 Andrew Maliphant: You'd like to think the units would be interested in that as well. 711 01:00:02.820 --> 01:00:10.601 iFarm / CCA: That was my response to Mick. I said, Yeah, I know you represent a lot of oil and gas workers. But they're gonna need to transition at some point. Let's help them, you know. 712 01:00:10.830 --> 01:00:13.240 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah, that sounds yeah, sounds good. 713 01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:24.950 Andrew Maliphant: I've just got up on screen. Thanks for the what we've got at the moment on the dev, website. You get on the the register. Thing. And is, it says local council community group itself. 714 01:00:25.020 --> 01:00:28.892 Andrew Maliphant: If it's a community group, you get things like 715 01:00:29.350 --> 01:00:47.310 Andrew Maliphant: name. Do you have a lead person? Because they're not necessarily a client group? Of course our projects for staying last name. We did look at this at the end of May. So there's suggestions that we add to this to expand it. But that's what we've got there. One of the main things was suggesting that they use the 716 01:00:47.530 --> 01:00:51.004 Andrew Maliphant: the the an email address for a login. 717 01:00:52.080 --> 01:00:59.999 Andrew Maliphant: So if you're a local council, then you get a different stage in the climate journey again, these kind of things. 718 01:01:01.782 --> 01:01:10.159 Andrew Maliphant: council website. Okay, we thought we'd do some more change to that if we're going on as an individual, which is pretty much what we've got there at the on the live site at the moment. 719 01:01:10.566 --> 01:01:12.990 Andrew Maliphant: It's just this, you know, it's just 720 01:01:14.429 --> 01:01:26.640 Andrew Maliphant: username email address, postcode lookup and password and they've got to agree to our. And I'll the bit to add in is this bit down here which there isn't live here. 721 01:01:28.180 --> 01:01:32.700 Andrew Maliphant: so that's the distinction between 3. So at the moment, if you are 722 01:01:33.168 --> 01:01:40.810 Andrew Maliphant: logging into the live site, you. You're just you're not this. All this is all that you're doing. You're not giving any extra information 723 01:01:44.270 --> 01:01:45.020 Andrew Maliphant: where? Aye. 724 01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:48.901 Andrew Maliphant: so, as I say, whether 725 01:01:49.710 --> 01:01:57.800 Andrew Maliphant: when we get to single sign on? Are we saying that's only going to be for the groups? Or is that going to be for individuals as well? I can't remember. We've discussed that one. 726 01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:00.590 Chris Pointon: We're not expecting individuals to be part of 727 01:02:01.160 --> 01:02:02.859 Chris Pointon: the great collaboration 728 01:02:03.240 --> 01:02:04.889 Chris Pointon: in the sense that. 729 01:02:05.510 --> 01:02:06.850 Andrew Maliphant: In that same sense. Yeah. 730 01:02:06.850 --> 01:02:11.040 Chris Pointon: In that same sense. Th, this is the only bit where individual actions happen. 731 01:02:11.300 --> 01:02:12.019 Chris Pointon: Go ahead. 732 01:02:12.500 --> 01:02:14.910 iFarm / CCA: Gonna have. I'm gonna have to shoot off. I think. 733 01:02:14.910 --> 01:02:15.350 Chris Pointon: Craig was. 734 01:02:15.350 --> 01:02:16.040 iFarm / CCA: We see? 735 01:02:16.860 --> 01:02:18.000 iFarm / CCA: Yeah, so 736 01:02:18.170 --> 01:02:20.760 iFarm / CCA: so I'll catch you. I'll catch you soon. 737 01:02:20.900 --> 01:02:21.710 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah. Alright. Julie. 738 01:02:21.710 --> 01:02:22.560 Chris Pointon: Like you guys. 739 01:02:23.265 --> 01:02:23.740 iFarm / CCA: Speak! 740 01:02:24.060 --> 01:02:24.845 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah. 741 01:02:25.680 --> 01:02:33.690 Andrew Maliphant: okay. So yeah. So I think that that's sensible, isn't it? So that the single sign on is really for groups, not for individuals. 742 01:02:35.980 --> 01:02:38.180 Andrew Maliphant: And therefore, if you're an individual 743 01:02:38.410 --> 01:02:39.639 Andrew Maliphant: getting in and 744 01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:41.760 Andrew Maliphant: wanted to do a collective action. 745 01:02:42.690 --> 01:02:44.240 Andrew Maliphant: that's not the handle there. 746 01:02:44.650 --> 01:02:48.789 Andrew Maliphant: but they'd have to re register if they wanted to share stuff with us or 747 01:02:49.090 --> 01:02:51.619 Andrew Maliphant: get on the mapping and so forth. Yeah. 748 01:02:52.970 --> 01:02:55.449 Chris Pointon: I mean. Personally, I think we should 749 01:02:57.030 --> 01:03:03.760 Chris Pointon: remove the individual actions at some relevant point, so that the membership of the great collaboration is clearly for 750 01:03:04.180 --> 01:03:05.690 Chris Pointon: people who are getting 751 01:03:07.070 --> 01:03:08.480 Chris Pointon: group stuff 752 01:03:08.700 --> 01:03:12.829 Chris Pointon: happening. I think we'll have a lot of individuals turning up on 753 01:03:12.940 --> 01:03:16.360 Chris Pointon: great collaboration chat. And what have you confused about. Why. 754 01:03:16.410 --> 01:03:18.529 Chris Pointon: there's all this other stuff. 755 01:03:18.530 --> 01:03:31.778 Andrew Maliphant: I think I think I've got you your point, and I think that there's 2 things about that. One is. Yes, we don't want 65 million people coming into these forms, whatever it is. But it is also still a way in for individuals. So 756 01:03:32.390 --> 01:03:38.429 Andrew Maliphant: if we're having that separate somehow. So that if you're an individual and you get this bit, yeah. 757 01:03:38.870 --> 01:03:42.909 Andrew Maliphant: But the the joining up and interchanges are happening at group level. 758 01:03:43.190 --> 01:03:54.940 Chris Pointon: Yeah, I think the problem is thinking about the climate action people that I client leaders list. I have. Many of them would consider themselves to be individuals, even though they are trying to get community stuff happening. And so I think we've got a tough 759 01:03:55.390 --> 01:03:57.220 Chris Pointon: alright. But but 760 01:03:57.430 --> 01:03:58.140 Chris Pointon: I. 761 01:03:58.140 --> 01:04:00.049 Andrew Maliphant: Let's think some more about it, because that. 762 01:04:00.260 --> 01:04:04.735 Chris Pointon: Yeah, I don't. I don't think we're going to fix that on this call, and I would quite. I think maybe we should. 763 01:04:05.150 --> 01:04:07.294 Chris Pointon: We should reconnect with 764 01:04:08.190 --> 01:04:09.654 Chris Pointon: who was his name? 765 01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:12.490 Chris Pointon: Mark Mike, the the. 766 01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:13.979 Andrew Maliphant: Michael Jones. 767 01:04:13.980 --> 01:04:15.580 Chris Pointon: The designer in the. 768 01:04:16.070 --> 01:04:16.800 Andrew Maliphant: Like, Smith, yeah. 769 01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:25.829 Chris Pointon: Smith. We should reconnect with him about just thinking this through. I think that would be if he's got the right brain for this. I've got a 770 01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:29.310 Chris Pointon: note to also reconnect with Tara. So I haven't done that. 771 01:04:29.370 --> 01:04:34.979 Chris Pointon: But yeah, I'll I'll add it to do to the to do this for me to about that? Yeah. 772 01:04:34.980 --> 01:04:43.209 Andrew Maliphant: So. Yeah. Well, you you you hear from my voice. I'm keen that we don't just just the individual, the entirely. But I do hate. Take your point that it's 773 01:04:43.843 --> 01:04:49.310 Andrew Maliphant: it's not our current focus at the moment, and we don't want to make life more complicated in the future. 774 01:04:49.310 --> 01:04:52.549 Chris Pointon: Exactly what I say. What I don't want is lots of people 775 01:04:53.180 --> 01:05:00.169 Chris Pointon: who are not getting groups going, causing a lot of unnecessary conversation and confusion in that? Because. 776 01:05:00.170 --> 01:05:09.925 Andrew Maliphant: Yeah. And we we all know there are individuals in the world that are complete mavericks, and they just want to elbow their way in and and and grab the conversation. Yeah. 777 01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:12.499 Chris Pointon: Okay, I better shoot to my next call. 778 01:05:12.500 --> 01:05:13.380 Andrew Maliphant: Okay, my friend, yeah. 779 01:05:13.380 --> 01:05:14.889 Chris Pointon: Great good to see you soon, Andrew. 780 01:05:14.890 --> 01:05:16.200 Andrew Maliphant: See you soon. Take care!

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