# Banter 115: 15Apr26 The Great Collaboration Knowledgebase {% embed url="" %} *** ### Presentation: Using the GC Knowledgebase {% file src="" %} You are welcome to download this presentation, should you wish. A markdown version (ie text only) is added at the bottom of the page for the AI search engine *** ### Meeting Summary - Using the Great Collaboration Knowledgebase: Apr 15, 2026 11:53 AM London ID: 834 5460 8536 #### Quick recap Graham presented an overview of The Great Collaboration's knowledge base system, demonstrating how it functions as an indexing tool to help parish councils find relevant climate change and environmental information quickly. He explained the system's structure using Gitbook, showed how to search for documents and maps, and discussed the need for proper indexing with H1, H2 headings and page descriptions. The group discussed challenges around document validation, with participants expressing concerns about ensuring scientific accuracy and source credibility. The conversation also touched on communication methods for reaching different demographics, with participants sharing experiences about the effectiveness of various platforms like Facebook, QR codes, and local newspapers. #### Next steps * Graham: Let Andrew know about the issue of emails from "hello at great Collaboration" being filtered into junk mail, to determine if others are affected. * Frank: Check after the meeting whether the local showing of the National Emergency Briefing film has been posted onto the map, and if not, ensure it is added. * Graham: Send business cards to Cllr. Stuart to help spread the word about The Great Collaboration. * All participants: If finding documents or pages in the knowledge base that are missing proper headings or page descriptions, send a note to Graham identifying which documents need repair. * All participants: If discovering new relevant documents or projects, send links and suggested page descriptions/keywords to Graham for inclusion in the knowledge base. * All participants: If interested in becoming an editor to help update the knowledge base, email Graham to volunteer. * All participants: If aware of potential speakers or recent presentations of interest for future Banter sessions, let Graham know. #### Summary #### Informal Team Check-in Discussion The meeting began with informal conversations among participants, including discussions about personal experiences and updates on various topics. Frank mentioned an issue with an email about an emergency briefing ending up in his junk mail, which Graham noted he would inform Andrew about. The group discussed the importance of correctly identifying locations and names on Zoom for better organization. No specific decisions or action items were outlined during this portion of the meeting. #### Knowledge Base System Overview Graham presented an overview of the knowledge base system, explaining its purpose as a shortcut to find relevant information for parish council environment and climate change projects within three clicks. He demonstrated how to access the knowledge base through the website or direct URL, navigate using the search function and taxonomy headings, and emphasized the importance of proper indexing with H1, H2 headings and page descriptions for effective search results. Graham noted that while the system is a work in progress, with some pages not yet conforming to optimal formatting requirements, new pages are being created to meet these standards, and he encouraged participants to suggest improvements and fill gaps in the taxonomy. #### National Emergency Briefing Presentation Graham used as an example the national emergency briefing page in the Knowledgebase. He also demonstrated how the mapping system can show flood risk areas and historical flood zones, including new climate change projections from the Environment Agency. Graham also explained the use of Ticket Tailor for event registration and planning purposes. #### Knowledge Base Document Management Graham demonstrated how to add a new document to the knowledge base, using a biodiversity document as an example. He explained the process of determining the appropriate menu placement, creating proper headings, and writing page descriptions with relevant keywords. Graham requested team members to help by reporting documents needing repairs, suggesting new documents with appropriate page descriptions, or volunteering as editors to update the knowledge base directly. #### Document Management System Discussion Graham and Wendy discussed document searching and copyright issues within the system. Graham confirmed that documents are free to use and are sourced from public websites or public domain content. Peter inquired about alternative tools for managing project documents, expressing concerns about Gitbook's complexity. Graham explained they chose Gitbook for its open-source and free nature, though acknowledged it may not be the most perfect solution. #### Knowledge Base Sustainability Discussion Jane raised concerns about the recency of information in the knowledge base and requested a forum for seeking advice on implementing sustainability initiatives. Graham acknowledged these issues and introduced Hylo as a communication tool for gathering opinions and feedback. Graham also mentioned plans to hire a part-time employee to manage the knowledge base properly, as the current volunteer-based approach is becoming unsustainable. David inquired about methods for identifying gaps in the taxonomy, to which Graham suggested using Hylo or email for informal suggestions, noting that formalized processes have not been established yet. #### Knowledge Base Evaluation Approach The group discussed the current approach to evaluating documents in their knowledge base, with Graham acknowledging they don't yet have a scientific or professional method due to resource constraints. They explained their focus is on providing time-saving resources for busy parish clerks and councillors rather than conducting comprehensive fact-checking, as most materials will need customization for local needs. Cllr. Stuart noted that much of the knowledge base content has been presented and scrutinized at open sessions attended by knowledgeable experts. #### Climate Communication Strategy Discussion The group discussed the effectiveness of different communication methods for promoting climate and environment-related initiatives. Cllr. Stuart shared that QR codes were not effective in reaching people at a recent meeting, while Facebook was noted as the most effective platform by Graham, though it has limitations in reaching older demographics. The discussion highlighted the need for diverse communication strategies, with suggestions including local newspapers, village hall notice boards, and social media platforms like Instagram and TikTok for younger audiences. Graham announced plans to continue developing the indexing system and requested input on potential speakers for future sessions. *** ### Chat - Using the Great Collaboration Knowledgebase 15Apr26 00:13:10 Peter Bates - SSECAM: Wendy you are showing as twice on the screen \ 00:50:31 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: System to use for communicating with groups:
00:59:47 Wendy Thomson: It could help with funding if we can show how valuable and how much these sessions are used by different councils.
01:01:22 David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Just a QR code is all that you need to show.
01:02:31 Peter Bates - SSECAM: Thanks Graham I need to go \ 01:03:40 Wendy Thomson: I need to go. It ws great to catch up with you all again! \ 01:03:55 Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: sorry I have to go \ 01:05:01 David Newman (Blackbird Leys): The Great Collaboration is on YouTube, but it is someone else. \ 01:06:19 Jane Whild, Milton Keynes: Thank you. It's very helpful. *** #### Audio-transcript - Using the GC Knowledgebase 107 \ 00:13:18.450 --> 00:13:36.089 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: what I'm hoping to talk about today is what the knowledge base is, how you can get to it, what it's actually supposed to do, and then what it actually does do, which is somewhat a bit different. Give you a live presentation of actually using it. 108 \ 00:13:36.430 --> 00:13:43.929 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And then, the catch-all at the end that says, what can you do to help me? 109 \ 00:13:44.030 --> 00:13:46.050 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Because there's always room for improvement. 110 \ 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:47.190 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So… 111 \ 00:13:49.720 --> 00:14:03.339 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: The idea of the knowledge base is principally that it's a shortcut to give you access to the most appropriate information that you need for your parish council environment and climate change product, projects. 112 \ 00:14:03.660 --> 00:14:15.320 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, we have a long-term aim of 3 clicks, that we know… with 3 clicks of the mouse, you ought to be able to find the very document that you're looking for. And the document can be anything. It can be a… 113 \ 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:25.810 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: a template on how to set up a climate action plan, it can be a document that says how people did in what happened when you created an allotment in southern Surrey. 114 \ 00:14:25.950 --> 00:14:40.629 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Or it can be the best way of doing a particular project that somebody's already done. But the idea is to help you to get there in 3 clicks, because there's so much stuff out on the internet that if you type something into the internet, you usually get 100 replies. 115 \ 00:14:40.710 --> 00:14:50.189 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Which is not much use to you when you're in a hurry. So we're trying to do the sieving of information for you in advance so that you get a much smaller 116 \ 00:14:50.410 --> 00:14:55.690 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: List of things to try to do, and it should be, hopefully, a much more appropriate list. 117 \ 00:14:56.290 --> 00:15:02.380 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, it's as much a pointing system to where stuff is already out there on the internet 118 \ 00:15:02.540 --> 00:15:08.849 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: As anything else. And inevitably, if we're pointing to a document that later changes. 119 \ 00:15:09.070 --> 00:15:19.069 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Which is what people will hopefully always be doing, because as they make progress, they update, things get better, your document will also update. 120 \ 00:15:19.560 --> 00:15:27.560 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, we're trying not to host documents on the knowledge base itself, we're really just trying to host the 121 \ 00:15:28.250 --> 00:15:32.420 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Directions to a document that has been recommended to us. 122 \ 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:46.719 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And, the system that we're using to build the knowledge base is, a system called… actually, I said Git Book Hub there, but it should be Git Book, I'm sorry. Git Book is a… an open source system. 123 \ 00:15:46.790 --> 00:15:57.030 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Which produces… helps people produce very live and very, easily updated documentation systems. And we're using it for the knowledge base. 124 \ 00:16:00.140 --> 00:16:14.720 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Okay, how do you get to it? Well, there are two main routes. If you look at the main website for The Great Collaboration, under How Can I Get Involved, there is a menu option for Knowledge Base, which takes you straight to the welcoming page. 125 \ 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:31.470 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: In due course, we hope that this will actually ask you, or rather know from your login to the website who you are, and what size you are, and where you are, and therefore the answers that you get to the questions you put should be automatically 126 \ 00:16:31.790 --> 00:16:40.890 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: appropriate to your size and location. That's a dream in the future, that's where we're hoping to get to, but we aren't there yet. 127 \ 00:16:41.180 --> 00:16:44.130 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And the other way to get to the, 128 \ 00:16:44.850 --> 00:16:48.230 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: knowledge base is just by typing in this URL. 129 \ 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:50.790 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And, that will take you there. 130 \ 00:16:51.710 --> 00:16:53.240 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, when you get there. 131 \ 00:16:54.140 --> 00:17:09.219 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: you get this welcoming screen, and I'm just going to show you what you find on the screen here. So, in the top left corner is the search box, and you can type anything you like in there, so what it is that you're looking for should go into there. 132 \ 00:17:09.420 --> 00:17:20.749 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And then, when you click on the search box, it should hopefully bring up to you, very much like Google does at the moment, a whole list of those documents in the system that would help you. 133 \ 00:17:21.280 --> 00:17:32.429 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: It's an interesting question as to whether the search box is going to show you, first of all, what's in the knowledge base, or what it finds in the outside world, because it tends to be a mixture of both. 134 \ 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:38.960 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: You may need to search down to find the actual knowledge base entry, but I'll show you all about how to do that. 135 \ 00:17:39.370 --> 00:17:41.260 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Then, the… 136 \ 00:17:41.650 --> 00:17:49.419 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: The main subject headings are… basically, they're each menus, and as you can see from the little arrows to the right of these. 137 \ 00:17:49.570 --> 00:17:51.830 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Menu items here. 138 \ 00:17:52.260 --> 00:18:01.829 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Each one is going to give you a whole bunch of subfolders, and eventually you're going to end up with what you were looking for. Under these titles. 139 \ 00:18:01.880 --> 00:18:12.960 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And these titles all come from a taxonomy that we've, adopted to help us put stuff into places. So these are the main headings from the taxonomy. 140 \ 00:18:12.970 --> 00:18:24.569 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: If you want to go further into information, you can click on the taxonomy, and it will take you to two spreadsheets that we're using. One is a list of all the headings that we're trying to save data under. 141 \ 00:18:24.930 --> 00:18:39.799 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And the other is a list of those headings which we actually have saved data under, or more importantly, the ones that we haven't. And on the grounds that we hope that people will say, well, actually, I do know where you can find a really good document on 142 \ 00:18:39.800 --> 00:18:45.030 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: whichever topic we're looking at. So, the taxonomy entry is there as a reference point. 143 \ 00:18:45.050 --> 00:18:52.680 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: As to why we've got these headings here, and what new ones we can set up, and what items of information we're looking for. 144 \ 00:18:53.230 --> 00:19:11.470 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And then under events here, I've just shown you that the banter sessions are there, but there are others, the Climate Action Workshops that we run, and those sorts of things, they're all listed here, and again, you can go into these documents and look up everything from 145 \ 00:19:11.600 --> 00:19:19.330 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: whatever session is being recorded. So you see the video recording, you see the presentation, you see the chat that was going on. 146 \ 00:19:19.470 --> 00:19:23.170 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And, you also see a… 147 \ 00:19:23.990 --> 00:19:34.969 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Sort of a speech-to-text document, that will sort of list everything that's been said in case it helps you to identify people who've got useful information or anything like that. 148 \ 00:19:35.320 --> 00:19:38.490 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, this is the first page you're going to find. 149 \ 00:19:38.740 --> 00:19:56.129 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And I just put an instruction up here that says, when you're in the search base, searching in here, just enter the term you're seeking. It really helps if you can find something from the taxonomy to say what you're seeking, because those are the words we're using. So if you use the same words, you're likely to find stuff more quickly. 150 \ 00:19:56.450 --> 00:19:59.380 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And then the system will present answers to you. 151 \ 00:20:00.060 --> 00:20:04.480 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So that's how… The system works, in theory. 152 \ 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:14.809 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Here's a little bit of explanation about the taxonomy. So, those menu headings, as I explained, do follow the taxonomy headings. 153 \ 00:20:14.950 --> 00:20:27.999 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: You can get into the taxonomy yourself by following that headings. It lists all the headings and subheadings, and those headings that are still waiting for data, so if you find a gap, and think you can fit it, then please do. 154 \ 00:20:30.780 --> 00:20:37.010 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: The setup of these pages in the knowledge base is important. 155 \ 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:45.599 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: The Knowledge Base is an indexing system. It's meant to find stuff for you, so that you don't have to go searching for it. 156 \ 00:20:45.860 --> 00:20:59.649 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: But the way that we find things, or the way that it indexes things, is by the size of the headings used on the pages. So a heading 1 and a heading 2 will always be indexed in full. 157 \ 00:21:00.140 --> 00:21:06.989 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Heading 3 and below, which are… these are all sizes now, so each one is the largest size, H2 is the next one down. 158 \ 00:21:07.180 --> 00:21:12.820 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: H3 and H4 are available, but they don't get involved in the indexing. 159 \ 00:21:13.420 --> 00:21:22.889 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And I'll show you, when we get to a page, that the first paragraph underneath the principal page heading at the top of the page is indexed. So… 160 \ 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:31.509 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: What goes into that page description is key to finding information in future. And again, I'll go into that in a moment. 161 \ 00:21:31.870 --> 00:21:34.360 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Now, it took us quite a while. 162 \ 00:21:34.530 --> 00:21:48.010 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: to work out how their indexing system worked. For a system that is designed for helping you produce documentation, it was extraordinary how difficult it was to find out information in their own documents, 163 \ 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:51.450 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: But we've now got the system sorted out. 164 \ 00:21:51.600 --> 00:21:57.789 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And it… inevitably, there are pages in the system at the moment that don't 165 \ 00:21:58.010 --> 00:22:11.040 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: conform to the H1, H2, and page subscription requirements. So, we're having to go back to revamp those pages into the proper form, and it's a work in progress, so… 166 \ 00:22:11.040 --> 00:22:19.010 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: If you find a page that doesn't seem to match what I say it should do, don't be surprised. We've still got to catch up. 167 \ 00:22:19.660 --> 00:22:36.469 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: All the new pages, as we create them, are being created to this H1H2M page subscription routine, so hopefully, in due course of time, things will operate even better and faster than they are at the moment. 168 \ 00:22:38.070 --> 00:22:39.020 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So… 169 \ 00:22:39.300 --> 00:22:46.340 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: You'll see all this when I do the demonstration for you, but I'm just showing to you how the pages are laid out in the system. 170 \ 00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:54.909 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, in the main menu, the item on the left, there's a page for every major topic from the taxonomy. 171 \ 00:22:55.060 --> 00:23:09.240 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And then each page that you actually go to will have underlying pages that will show you where to go. And these underlying pages, again, in due course, will all conform to 172 \ 00:23:09.830 --> 00:23:13.980 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: The indexing system's requirements, but they don't all get there yet. 173 \ 00:23:14.610 --> 00:23:27.390 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And, the really useful item I've found, or we've determined, is that when you put in a header at H1 or an H2, you can actually make that a link 174 \ 00:23:27.540 --> 00:23:38.040 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: to the ongoing document. So the way that we're looking for this system to work from now, and hopefully retrospectively as we get things up to date. 175 \ 00:23:38.470 --> 00:23:49.000 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Is that you will go into a page, you will find the headers that you're looking for, as either H1 or H2 headers, and then they will be linked to the document that you want. 176 \ 00:23:52.210 --> 00:24:00.559 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And then, when we first started, again, just to give you some, clues as to our thinking back in the early days. 177 \ 00:24:00.790 --> 00:24:08.230 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: People thought that it would help if the actual documents themselves were in the knowledge base, because then the indexing system would catch up with them. 178 \ 00:24:08.420 --> 00:24:18.809 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: But it turns out that the indexing system didn't work quite the way we thought it would, and it doesn't go through every document, and it doesn't index every word, and then when you search on 179 \ 00:24:19.110 --> 00:24:24.999 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Any particular words, like climate change, he doesn't find you every document that includes the word climate change. 180 \ 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:29.620 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: He only finds you those documents that have got climate change in 181 \ 00:24:29.820 --> 00:24:32.849 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: H1, or H2, or the page description. 182 \ 00:24:33.300 --> 00:24:34.200 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So… 183 \ 00:24:34.870 --> 00:24:46.719 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Just the introduction to this, really, is just to show you that, we now have to adjust the headings and the page description on all the menu pages so that they meet people's search requirements. 184 \ 00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:57.030 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And unfortunately, in many of the pages that are there right now, they need to be reconfigured. But we are getting there. It does work as it is at the moment, it's just that we think it can work a lot better. 185 \ 00:24:58.590 --> 00:25:10.099 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Right, so here is a typical example of a page that doesn't meet those requirements. So, Biodiversity Audits is a page in the knowledge base. It shows you what you need to do to get an audit. 186 \ 00:25:10.120 --> 00:25:19.090 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: But, you'll notice that even though that heading is an H1, and it works fine, there's nothing at all in the page description. 187 \ 00:25:19.140 --> 00:25:27.859 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And what we should have here are the key words, particularly words from the taxonomy list, that apply to this document. 188 \ 00:25:27.950 --> 00:25:42.139 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, in other words, there's a sort of a summary needed for every document that goes into the knowledge base of the keywords that it applies to, so that, again, people can find it much more quickly in the future. 189 \ 00:25:43.090 --> 00:25:55.269 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, here is a subparagraph that you'd expect to be useful in the index. You know, you might want to look up biodiversity, or even what is a biodiversity order. 190 \ 00:25:55.410 --> 00:26:05.159 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: That's not going to be found at the moment, because as you can see here, it's a Heading 3, not a Heading 2. So, this document is one that I've got to update. 191 \ 00:26:05.370 --> 00:26:08.380 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: It doesn't conform with our requirements. 192 \ 00:26:08.770 --> 00:26:14.419 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Now, here's one that's a bit newer, but it still is some way from where it needs to be. 193 \ 00:26:14.790 --> 00:26:15.780 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So… 194 \ 00:26:15.990 --> 00:26:24.190 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: The page heading is H1, easily found. The page description doesn't really give you the keywords of what this 195 \ 00:26:24.260 --> 00:26:44.130 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: National Emergency Briefing film is covering. It tells you what it is. So this is effectively a summary of what the film is about, rather than actually putting in the keywords or the topics that are discovered. So we should have in here things like food resilience, food security, floods. 196 \ 00:26:44.150 --> 00:26:49.950 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: climate change, that sort of thing. So, again, a work in progress. 197 \ 00:26:50.220 --> 00:27:06.920 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: But here you see the page on here, which is quite useful, and here's the example I'm giving you, that we've put the People's Emergency Briefing film as a heading 2, and there's a link on it that will take you directly to the page that tells you all about that film. 198 \ 00:27:07.020 --> 00:27:15.429 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And the same is true for the other documents that are down here. So, this page is getting better. It's not perfect, but it's better than some of the other stuff that we've got there. 199 \ 00:27:16.320 --> 00:27:21.259 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Now, I thought I would then just go through the exercise of 200 \ 00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:24.210 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Showing you, how we actually use 201 \ 00:27:24.380 --> 00:27:27.120 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: The knowledge base, actually doing it for live. 202 \ 00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:35.310 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So I think the quickest way of doing that is for me to Come out of here… Change page… 203 \ 00:27:35.930 --> 00:27:39.570 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: To there, and go to… Yeah. 204 \ 00:27:39.900 --> 00:27:44.910 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So… Hopefully, you're now all seeing the welcome page. 205 \ 00:27:45.550 --> 00:27:49.090 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: If you were to type in what you're looking for. 206 \ 00:27:49.290 --> 00:27:58.910 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: It's going to go into this space. But before we do that, I just wanted to show you the taxonomy that underlies all of this. So if we go into taxonomy… 207 \ 00:27:59.780 --> 00:28:05.919 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: You find that you've got two spreadsheets, and if you just click on any one of these, it'll bring the spreadsheets up. 208 \ 00:28:07.340 --> 00:28:18.530 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And here's the one that lists all the topics that we're discovering. So if you're looking for something in biodiversity, this is what you can expect to find under these individual subheadings. 209 \ 00:28:18.650 --> 00:28:38.350 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, this is a work in progress. As people think of more things, we add them in to the appropriate page. So I'm hoping that you're all going to say, oh yes, well, we know all about heat pumps, let's put heat pumps into renewable energy, or whatever it is. So, there's a listing of all the stuff. 210 \ 00:28:39.370 --> 00:28:41.660 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And then if we come back out of here. 211 \ 00:28:43.300 --> 00:28:45.149 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: It's a good question of how I'm gonna do that. 212 \ 00:28:46.740 --> 00:28:49.570 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: It is a good question of how am I gonna do that? Should I go that way? 213 \ 00:28:49.950 --> 00:28:50.810 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Yes. 214 \ 00:28:51.290 --> 00:29:09.600 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Then this one, is virtually the same spreadsheet, but there's a list of those items which have got items in the, knowledge base already, and conversely, those that don't. And unfortunately, there are more empty gaps than there are full ones at the moment. You can have a full gap, but you know what I mean. 215 \ 00:29:09.750 --> 00:29:12.729 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, let's go back to doing a search. 216 \ 00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:18.660 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Since we've just been talking about it, if I type in here… Neb. 217 \ 00:29:18.800 --> 00:29:20.940 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: for the National Emergency Briefing. 218 \ 00:29:21.790 --> 00:29:24.619 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And then the system goes away and thinks to itself for a bit. 219 \ 00:29:25.930 --> 00:29:28.590 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Or maybe it doesn't. It's interesting, isn't it? 220 \ 00:29:33.300 --> 00:29:37.000 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Oh, I clicked on the wrong button so far. Okay, so it's come up with answers. 221 \ 00:29:37.460 --> 00:29:42.980 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And if you come down to here, You've got the, 222 \ 00:29:43.140 --> 00:29:45.319 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Full level of links from here. 223 \ 00:29:46.530 --> 00:29:51.099 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, if I go to Interactive Screaming Map, for instance. 224 \ 00:29:51.560 --> 00:29:58.820 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: This now takes us to the page about the NEB, and you can see everything that you need to see here. 225 \ 00:29:59.030 --> 00:30:10.819 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: That there is. So, it started off as the National Emergency Briefing. That's now been sort of boiled down to a film. It's about 45 minutes long, 226 \ 00:30:11.040 --> 00:30:20.479 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: It is available now, it's been released to those people who want to see it. If you'd like to see it, you just go ahead and follow our links to how to get hold of it. 227 \ 00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:24.730 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And then you can show it to anybody that you like. 228 \ 00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:38.349 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: In your local area, so we're showing it as a parish council deal, but lots of organizations, such as the Women's Institutes and scouting organizations and so forth, are all showing it. 229 \ 00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:46.389 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And you can have a look at their map, and it shows you all the places in the country, that are showing the map. 230 \ 00:30:46.730 --> 00:30:54.610 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So if I take you there, you can see that, even Scotland has got places so… 231 \ 00:30:54.850 --> 00:30:56.119 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Frank, are you in here? 232 \ 00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:01.079 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: You're on mute, Frank, so I don't know, Jess. 233 \ 00:31:01.340 --> 00:31:07.580 \ frank deas Killearn: I know we've got a showing at the end of the month, but I'm not sure whoever's organized it has posted it onto the map, so I can check after today. 234 \ 00:31:07.580 --> 00:31:13.200 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Yeah, but it's easier to see up here than it is all the gazillions of ones down here. 235 \ 00:31:13.870 --> 00:31:27.109 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: For those of you who are thinking about doing this, and are wondering, you know, what is the capacity of our Village Hall, how many people are going to do it, and so forth, there is a ticketing organization called Ticket Tailor. 236 \ 00:31:27.980 --> 00:31:32.260 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And if I go into here, which I think is us, 237 \ 00:31:32.530 --> 00:31:35.919 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And Ticket Taylor says, please pick up a free ticket. 238 \ 00:31:36.170 --> 00:31:53.170 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So we have an idea. So clicking on here, you just sign your email, and it gives me the indication that you intend to come, and that I get an idea of how many people are hoping to come, and how we're… what we're going to have to do to cope with that number of people. And you have no idea whether it's going to be 5 or 100. 239 \ 00:31:53.320 --> 00:32:00.610 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: But it helps, of course, to know in advance. So, these numbers are ticking up for us, I'm pleased to say. 240 \ 00:32:02.230 --> 00:32:09.700 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, where do I go to get out of here? Let's go back to… Where we were. 241 \ 00:32:09.970 --> 00:32:11.129 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: I think was here. 242 \ 00:32:15.540 --> 00:32:18.220 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: We don't want to do that either. There we go. 243 \ 00:32:18.330 --> 00:32:23.300 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Alright, so that was basically the national emergency briefing. 244 \ 00:32:25.780 --> 00:32:39.389 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: What I wanted to show you then is that we have now started tying in actions to mapping. So if it helps you to see where things are happening, you can type in, say, flooding, which is something that we got in there. 245 \ 00:32:40.420 --> 00:32:43.710 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And it will take us to floods. 246 \ 00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:47.180 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And it shows us a… somewhere. 247 \ 00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:49.380 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: a map. 248 \ 00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:03.500 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Interesting. 249 \ 00:33:06.270 --> 00:33:12.979 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: There's a strict rule when making presentations, you never ever do live ones, because they never work the way you want them to. 250 \ 00:33:13.110 --> 00:33:16.280 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: This all worked beautifully before you all came along. 251 \ 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:18.129 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: But now I'm… 252 \ 00:33:24.350 --> 00:33:25.060 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Hmm. 253 \ 00:33:26.390 --> 00:33:31.350 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Well, let's go through it another way. This so happens that… We have… 254 \ 00:33:34.940 --> 00:33:37.489 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Flood items. 255 \ 00:33:44.290 --> 00:33:46.409 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Okay, maps and mapping. 256 \ 00:33:46.730 --> 00:33:51.910 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So… If you want to go and look at the maps, there's a link here. 257 \ 00:33:53.700 --> 00:34:00.560 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And we can take you to there. And then the menu shows you which maps we've got up and running. 258 \ 00:34:01.090 --> 00:34:08.489 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And the environment map is the one I was telling you about, the floods one. So we can say, yes, do take me to this map. 259 \ 00:34:09.080 --> 00:34:20.240 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: and you get the entire country to start off with, and you can say, here are the layers of information that I'm interested in. And if you want to know where there are floods at the moment, or 260 \ 00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:30.810 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: high-risk areas of flooding, then you immediately see them, and you can immediately tell, hopefully, we're safe in the rest of the country at the moment. If you want to know where 261 \ 00:34:30.810 --> 00:34:32.679 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Floods are likely to happen. 262 \ 00:34:33.469 --> 00:34:36.910 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Then you can go into the flood risk areas. 263 \ 00:34:37.600 --> 00:34:53.429 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And up will pop a whole ton, and this is where the… again, if it starts raining, you can expect to see floods in these areas, and you're entitled to, sort of, zoom in and see any particular place. So if you're living in, sort of, Western Super area. 264 \ 00:34:54.010 --> 00:35:02.730 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: then you can start seeing, is your individual parish going to be at risk? And you can keep on zooming in, so it's very, very helpful. 265 \ 00:35:02.850 --> 00:35:08.359 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And there's a whole load of other stuff. Again, are you interested in 266 \ 00:35:08.700 --> 00:35:11.799 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Let me zoom out a bit more now. 267 \ 00:35:13.640 --> 00:35:17.869 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And there's a slight time delay, I regret, but… 268 \ 00:35:18.500 --> 00:35:26.309 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: You will information, in due course, the flood zones of all the places where it has flooded in the past. 269 \ 00:35:26.310 --> 00:35:50.599 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: is really useful. There's a new one that the Environment Agency has just produced, which is saying the historical flood zones plus where we expect there to be an increase with climate change. So, as we're all getting more intense rainfalls, as the weather sort of develops according to the changing climate, then this is the Environment Agency saying, we expect you to get floods. 270 \ 00:35:50.610 --> 00:35:52.400 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: In these extra areas. 271 \ 00:35:52.790 --> 00:35:56.940 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, that was the flooding map. 272 \ 00:35:59.250 --> 00:36:03.629 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: I think that was the last of the examples I was going to show you. 273 \ 00:36:04.310 --> 00:36:11.359 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: The next one I was going to show you was an example of a document that 274 \ 00:36:11.510 --> 00:36:14.910 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Should be in the knowledge base. 275 \ 00:36:15.210 --> 00:36:19.040 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And then the question is, what do we do about it to get it in there? 276 \ 00:36:19.300 --> 00:36:28.029 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: Graeme, can I just ask a question about the last one, please? So that map that you put up, the flood risk areas. 277 \ 00:36:28.030 --> 00:36:28.570 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Yep. 278 \ 00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:33.360 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: Did you say that that comes direct from the Environment Agency? 279 \ 00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:34.250 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: I did. 280 \ 00:36:34.820 --> 00:36:36.770 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: Right, okay, thank you. 281 \ 00:36:37.470 --> 00:36:52.880 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And they have a whole host of stuff, most of which I've included in this environment map, and then as they update it, so that map gets updated as well. So it's a living document, it keeps changing as the information changes. 282 \ 00:36:53.250 --> 00:36:54.350 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Underneath. 283 \ 00:36:55.060 --> 00:36:59.620 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Alright, so I was going to go to, one last thing, which was to… 284 \ 00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:08.669 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Show you an example of a document that I felt should be in the system, and therefore, what do we need to do to it to get it there? 285 \ 00:37:09.110 --> 00:37:18.250 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, here is something that I was pointed to by Jane a couple of weeks ago. Looked through this and thought. 286 \ 00:37:18.250 --> 00:37:42.699 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: This is a really, really useful document, you know. Everyone is talking about reintroducing biodiversity, we're looking to see how can we reduce the problems, that we're seeing, how quickly and simply, and how, most importantly, how inexpensively. And there's some really good stuff on, just reducing marine frequency, for instance. So if you take a look at 287 \ 00:37:42.700 --> 00:37:55.089 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: what your local district, or regional county or even your own parish council is doing. They're probably cutting the grass, on verges and so forth, maybe 8 times a year. 288 \ 00:37:55.320 --> 00:38:13.769 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Because it sort of falls in with everyone's idea of being neat and tidy and everything else, but it's ruinous to biodiversity. So these guys are now suggesting, we've done this, we've got examples, we'll show you what happens if you reduce the mowing frequency to once or maybe twice a year. 289 \ 00:38:13.970 --> 00:38:38.890 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, instantly, you've reduced the costs by 75%, you've reduced the pollution by 75%, because all those sort of two-stroke mowers, or whatever they are, are no longer blowing smoke into the atmosphere. You're helping the biodiversity, and you're helping build corridors for the wildlife across the whole country, so you've got places 290 \ 00:38:38.890 --> 00:38:55.889 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: where hedgehogs are strong, and where hedgehogs are weak, and what you'd really like to do is to bring the two together so that hedgehogs move freely around, or whatever other animal or wildlife you choose to do. And you've got arguments here of why you should be doing that, and how you should be doing it. 291 \ 00:38:55.890 --> 00:38:59.289 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And so forth. So I felt, this is a really great document. 292 \ 00:38:59.590 --> 00:39:05.980 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, what do I need to do to create a fresh page for it in the knowledge base? 293 \ 00:39:06.110 --> 00:39:10.729 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And creating an extra page in the knowledge space is a piece of cake. 294 \ 00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:33.929 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: But the first thing you're going to want to do is just stick it in the menu order, in the right sort of place. I mean, if people are just searching, they don't actually care where it is in the system, but if you're looking into topics that are all related, you probably do want it to be all in the same place. So if you're looking for biodiversity, you want to go to the biodiversity menu. If you're looking to save money on mowing or something. 295 \ 00:39:33.930 --> 00:39:56.360 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: you need to be taken to this document, and you don't care where it's stored. So, use the taxonomy spreadsheet to work out where in the menu system this document should go. You can create a new page for it, and then just follow the rules for, setting up the headings. So, the main page will have automatically a heading that's H1, 296 \ 00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:58.880 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So you need to know what are you going to put in there. 297 \ 00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:14.609 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Then it's got the page description is the piece that comes immediately under the header, and you've got to go through this document and just pick out the keywords that need to go into that header, so that other people can find what they're looking for. 298 \ 00:40:14.700 --> 00:40:19.110 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And then, lastly, you would actually take this link. 299 \ 00:40:19.110 --> 00:40:41.180 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: to this document, and put that into a Header 2 title, so that people can click on it and just automatically come to this document. And as this document gets updated in the future, so, you'll also see the updates. So, really what I was doing with this is just to show people that there is 300 \ 00:40:41.180 --> 00:40:47.840 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Quite a lot of work involved with each new document that we're adding to the knowledge base. 301 \ 00:40:47.890 --> 00:40:52.550 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And this is where I come back to the page in our presentation. 302 \ 00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:57.080 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Which is, hopefully… there. 303 \ 00:40:57.980 --> 00:41:04.730 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So we've done the demo, and I'm moving on to the next page if I go into flight… slideshow mode. 304 \ 00:41:05.690 --> 00:41:11.820 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: On the current page… So the next thing is… How can you help? 305 \ 00:41:12.650 --> 00:41:13.640 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And… 306 \ 00:41:14.230 --> 00:41:20.039 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: The first thing that you can do if you happen to be going through the knowledge base, and you see that 307 \ 00:41:20.150 --> 00:41:38.970 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: There are pages that don't have the proper headings, or there are pages where the page description is not doing what it's supposed to do, because we wrote it before we realized what it was supposed to do. Then just sending me a note saying this document is in need of repair would be a big help, would be a big time saver for me. 308 \ 00:41:39.440 --> 00:42:00.079 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: If you've got new documents that you think should be in there, either your own projects or stuff that you found, like, someone sent me that link to the other one, then it would really help me save a lot of time if you could just roll through it and come up with what you think should be in the page description, so the keywords, if you will. 309 \ 00:42:00.080 --> 00:42:24.260 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: That are involved in that, and they can often just be the titles of the chapters within the document. So if the document itself has got headings or subheadings, then you can just copy and paste those into the page description. It does the job automatically for you. And so, just, if you send me those links and those suggested page descriptions and headings, that would really, again, help me. 310 \ 00:42:24.430 --> 00:42:38.099 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And finally, if anyone is sitting there twiddling their thumbs, wondering what on earth am I going to do for the rest of the year, then I'd be delighted to ask if you could join us, become an editor, and update the knowledge base yourself. 311 \ 00:42:38.430 --> 00:42:49.700 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So all that stuff is open to you. The way to move forward on any of this is simply to email me, and hopefully everyone knows my email by now. 312 \ 00:42:50.150 --> 00:42:53.309 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And I'll take it from there and say, I'm done. 313 \ 00:42:53.470 --> 00:42:59.190 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So let me come out of showing this, let me stop sharing the screen, let me ask if… 314 \ 00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:02.770 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Anyone who's got any automatic questions arising? 315 \ 00:43:05.040 --> 00:43:06.589 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Go ahead, Wendy, please. 316 \ 00:43:06.590 --> 00:43:08.729 \ Wendy Thomson: I do. 317 \ 00:43:09.220 --> 00:43:13.770 \ Wendy Thomson: I am getting, double noise back, but I… 318 \ 00:43:14.220 --> 00:43:17.589 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Anyway… You're logged in twice somewhere. 319 \ 00:43:17.740 --> 00:43:21.860 \ Wendy Thomson: It made me do it, it wouldn't let me see the original screen. 320 \ 00:43:21.860 --> 00:43:22.590 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Alright. 321 \ 00:43:22.590 --> 00:43:31.790 \ Wendy Thomson: I was just wondering, my issue would be is finding the document that I'd looked at to come and have a second visit. 322 \ 00:43:32.030 --> 00:43:39.320 \ Wendy Thomson: Does… does… does it save where you visited before, or do you have to save it yourself somewhere? 323 \ 00:43:40.630 --> 00:43:45.830 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: It does come up… the search box will come up with your previous searches. 324 \ 00:43:46.320 --> 00:44:01.800 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So yes, it does work. However, I would think that, if you're doing quite a lot of searching, then it'll get out of date very quickly. The stuff that you searched a week ago may no longer be in that list, so I think your suggestion of 325 \ 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:05.820 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Keeping track of it somewhere, would be very helpful. 326 \ 00:44:06.630 --> 00:44:07.260 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Mmm. 327 \ 00:44:07.260 --> 00:44:10.550 \ Wendy Thomson: And on that point, is… are most of the documents… 328 \ 00:44:11.460 --> 00:44:16.260 \ Wendy Thomson: as you say, free to use elsewhere. Is there any copyright issues? 329 \ 00:44:16.260 --> 00:44:32.120 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: They wouldn't be here if anyone had issues. So, no, we're only picking up stuff that is available on public websites, or has already been, out there in the public domain somewhere. So, that's a good question, but no, there aren't any licensing issues. 330 \ 00:44:32.710 --> 00:44:40.729 \ Wendy Thomson: And I will need to go back and have a look at that flooding one, because it… I'm purchasing a house in a flood risk area. 331 \ 00:44:40.790 --> 00:44:57.510 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Right. Well, that's sorted out our degree of, awareness that you need. Good luck with that, Wendy. All right, Peter, good morning to, or afternoon to you. 332 \ 00:44:58.230 --> 00:45:10.930 \ Peter Bates - SSECAM: Hello, Graeme, yes. My question is more about the tool, rather than the content, because I'm trying to find a way… I mean, I've got a couple of projects. 333 \ 00:45:11.010 --> 00:45:25.679 \ Peter Bates - SSECAM: Which we're involved in doing, and I keep being sent various documents from various people involved with the project, and having some difficulty deciding how best to manage it. I mean, I started a few years ago of using Hilo. 334 \ 00:45:25.790 --> 00:45:37.519 \ Peter Bates - SSECAM: And I actually thought that was a very useful tool a few years ago, just to quickly dump something into an area where somebody else could find it in quite a lot of detail. 335 \ 00:45:37.660 --> 00:45:49.060 \ Peter Bates - SSECAM: In the last few years, it appears to have changed a bit, and it's become a lot more complicated and cumbersome in that respect. And I've just… you know, I was interested in 336 \ 00:45:49.060 --> 00:45:59.069 \ Peter Bates - SSECAM: Gitbook, and I just did a search on that, and it came up with something called FutureBase, an affordable alternative 337 \ 00:45:59.070 --> 00:46:03.719 \ Peter Bates - SSECAM: to Gitbook, with AI-powered, docs. 338 \ 00:46:03.720 --> 00:46:19.670 \ Peter Bates - SSECAM: I guess the question I'm kind of really saying is, it seems to me, from what you're saying is that Gitbook does actually require quite a lot of effort in doing all the indexing to make it a useful tool, and you know, how… 339 \ 00:46:19.670 --> 00:46:39.190 \ Peter Bates - SSECAM: Has anybody, or have you come up with any other suitable tools which you could just quickly dump something in, and make it… allow it to automatically index itself, and then not have to spend a lot of time doing that in order to then make it available to other people? 340 \ 00:46:39.190 --> 00:46:47.369 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Well, any reasonable SQL database will do it for you automatically. 341 \ 00:46:47.420 --> 00:47:11.669 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: the Gitbook has an AI search engine, which they're improving all the time, and obviously will improve as their volume of data increases. The overwhelming factor in our deciding, deciding what to use, was the fact that it's open source and therefore free. And we were hoping that we get a lot of people to sort of work with us on it, and therefore you didn't want something that was 342 \ 00:47:11.670 --> 00:47:15.060 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: also free, but complicated, like MySQL. 343 \ 00:47:15.060 --> 00:47:28.629 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: which would also do the job brilliantly, but would be much more, maintenance work involved in making it available to everybody and presenting the information. So, the answer to your question, Peter, is we went with price. 344 \ 00:47:29.190 --> 00:47:45.130 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And if any of our funding plans are successful, then we may well change to something that's more suitable, but if it's free, it's hard to argue with the price, even if it's not the most perfect product in the world. 345 \ 00:47:46.560 --> 00:47:48.560 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Jane, good day to you. 346 \ 00:47:48.820 --> 00:47:50.750 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: In Milton Keynes. 347 \ 00:47:52.240 --> 00:48:09.960 \ Jane Whild, Milton Keynes: Hi there, Graeme. Yeah, thank you very much. That's really, really interesting. I'd had a little looking on the knowledge base before, because I'm relatively new. I only became a parish councillor in February, but I've been following your weekly, sessions with real interest. I suppose I've got… 348 \ 00:48:10.160 --> 00:48:29.080 \ Jane Whild, Milton Keynes: platform fatigue, because I've got so many of them that I come across, and I… you know, like, Transition Town have got great resources, Donut Economics, Climate Coalition, Friends of the Earth, all these sorts of things, and it's great, because you're pointing to other resources, which is really good. 349 \ 00:48:29.200 --> 00:48:47.390 \ Jane Whild, Milton Keynes: But I guess, one of the downfalls for me is knowing how recent something is. So, are we able to comment somewhere about, you know, the date of this, and how, if it's the most up-to-date, or, is one question. And then a second question I've got is, 350 \ 00:48:47.640 --> 00:48:54.959 \ Jane Whild, Milton Keynes: is there a forum? Have you got a forum at all, where we can sort of, you know, post for advice? Because I've sort of pointed… 351 \ 00:48:54.960 --> 00:49:12.099 \ Jane Whild, Milton Keynes: to a couple of these resources, but the council officer, you know, who's responsible for landscaping or whatever, you know, will say, oh, we've considered that, but, you know, we've come… you know, or there's reasons why we can't do that. So, just some sort of advice about how to approach things without going in… 352 \ 00:49:12.100 --> 00:49:15.169 \ Jane Whild, Milton Keynes: You know, with all, you know, blazing ideas. 353 \ 00:49:15.170 --> 00:49:21.060 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: You've highlighted the major deficiency in my presentation, which was… it's interesting that, 354 \ 00:49:21.120 --> 00:49:34.020 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Peter was mentioning high-low. We do have high-low, which we use amongst ourselves, and it's a great communication tool for doing exactly what you were saying, to throw something in front of people and say, what do you think? 355 \ 00:49:34.020 --> 00:49:41.970 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And they can communicate. And, I'm just looking for a link to send you that will bring you into our version of Hilo. 356 \ 00:49:41.970 --> 00:49:45.559 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Bear with me a second, whilst I look for that. 357 \ 00:49:57.280 --> 00:49:58.160 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Right. 358 \ 00:49:58.330 --> 00:50:00.099 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And I think that will do it. 359 \ 00:50:09.110 --> 00:50:13.569 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: I'm gonna put this into the… the chat. 360 \ 00:50:14.090 --> 00:50:21.699 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: For the meeting. It may not be the most brilliant address, but it's gonna get you to the right place, I think. 361 \ 00:50:22.080 --> 00:50:23.030 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Into there. 362 \ 00:50:32.330 --> 00:50:35.690 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Excuse me, there's a link in the, 363 \ 00:50:36.580 --> 00:50:52.300 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: chat now to our version of Hilo, you'll see that there are lots of groups in Hilo, and you can choose to join, which you feel most appropriate. You may be invited, you may need to be invited, in which case you send me a note saying you'd like me to invite you into a specific group. 364 \ 00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:56.690 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: But, that's the… high-low is the best way, I would suggest, of… 365 \ 00:50:56.780 --> 00:51:00.739 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Getting other people involved, or getting opinions, or thoughts. 366 \ 00:51:00.860 --> 00:51:01.740 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Together. 367 \ 00:51:02.420 --> 00:51:06.109 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Peter, how are you doing? Sorry, David, beg your pardon? 368 \ 00:51:09.030 --> 00:51:11.640 \ David Newman (Blackbird Leys): yes. 369 \ 00:51:14.330 --> 00:51:16.500 \ David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Is there any plan? 370 \ 00:51:16.620 --> 00:51:22.610 \ David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Or better still, technology for filling gaps in the taxonomy. 371 \ 00:51:24.970 --> 00:51:28.080 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Do you mean subjects that we hadn't thought of? 372 \ 00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:32.790 \ David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Subjects where you don't have much 373 \ 00:51:33.130 --> 00:51:36.790 \ David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Listed, and maybe there's something missing. 374 \ 00:51:37.460 --> 00:51:40.079 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Yes, well, I think… 375 \ 00:51:41.170 --> 00:51:47.750 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: If you're looking for a formalized way of doing it, we haven't developed one yet, just email me. 376 \ 00:51:48.190 --> 00:51:52.289 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And say, we… I think that you should have included, you know. 377 \ 00:51:52.880 --> 00:52:03.300 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: cleaning fish under water retention or something, or using beavers, or whatever it happens to be. But no, I don't have another formal way set up yet. 378 \ 00:52:03.820 --> 00:52:08.110 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Probably, probably high-low would… would end up being the right place. 379 \ 00:52:08.380 --> 00:52:14.810 \ David Newman (Blackbird Leys): Yes, I was wondering whether… AI searches might turn up stuff 380 \ 00:52:16.100 --> 00:52:20.800 \ David Newman (Blackbird Leys): We hadn't thought of if… in areas where there isn't much already. 381 \ 00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:28.999 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Oh, I'm sure they will. I mean, I don't know if you're a user of any of the AI agents, but I find them invaluable, frankly. 382 \ 00:52:29.590 --> 00:52:34.300 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: I did run into a headache, or rather, 383 \ 00:52:34.300 --> 00:52:52.730 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: a point which was obviously blindingly obvious, but everything within the Great Collaboration at the moment is being done by volunteers, and they've all got other things to do with their time, so it's not always the most efficient way of doing things. The first thing that we're going to do when we raise funds 384 \ 00:52:52.730 --> 00:53:11.789 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: which is an ongoing process. We got the first 20,000 pounds the other day, but I think that's already been sort of hijacked for what it was intended for. But the first thing we're going to do is to hire, somebody, probably on a part-time basis, as an employee, to manage the, the knowledge base. 385 \ 00:53:11.830 --> 00:53:21.810 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Because it's getting to the point where it's much more than, it shouldn't be a volunteer process, it should be a proper, professional, paid employee job to run it properly. 386 \ 00:53:23.100 --> 00:53:34.399 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, the answer to your question is, yes, there are much better ways of doing it, but until we've got the people and the money, we're a bit stuck, or certainly limited. 387 \ 00:53:34.700 --> 00:53:36.630 \ David Newman (Blackbird Leys): So, looking for librarians. 388 \ 00:53:36.630 --> 00:53:45.990 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Oh, absolutely. Ribeans would be marvellous, I quite agree. It's a great choice, actually. Thank you. Dave, on to you, please, in Maidenhead. 389 \ 00:53:47.110 --> 00:53:55.719 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: Thanks. So… When we… Recommend to people information. 390 \ 00:53:56.050 --> 00:54:00.620 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: We're always wanting to ensure, and this builds a little bit on what Wendy was saying. 391 \ 00:54:00.770 --> 00:54:04.779 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: We always want to… no, sorry, what Jane was saying. 392 \ 00:54:05.160 --> 00:54:09.949 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: We always want to ensure that it's an authorized source. 393 \ 00:54:10.110 --> 00:54:14.760 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: And it's scientifically… Correct. 394 \ 00:54:17.170 --> 00:54:21.700 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: So… How are you ensuring… that? 395 \ 00:54:22.700 --> 00:54:28.110 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: We aren't at the moment, Dave. There are… 396 \ 00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:33.929 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: I think probably David's idea of a librarian would be brilliant. 397 \ 00:54:34.220 --> 00:54:42.980 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: But at the moment, we're judging documents by how well they fit what we hope people are looking for. 398 \ 00:54:43.350 --> 00:54:44.980 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: There isn't aid. 399 \ 00:54:45.220 --> 00:54:51.150 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Scientific or professional method that we've adopted yet, simply because we don't have the people all the time. 400 \ 00:54:51.830 --> 00:54:52.500 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: Hmm. 401 \ 00:54:52.500 --> 00:55:00.240 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: I agree with you entirely that we need it, and we should have it, but we're too early in our development yet to get to that point. 402 \ 00:55:01.070 --> 00:55:01.450 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: Right. 403 \ 00:55:01.450 --> 00:55:09.429 \ Wendy Thomson: To be honest, it's not anything that we look at and we just search generally is checking the validity and… 404 \ 00:55:10.160 --> 00:55:14.699 \ Wendy Thomson: You know, how… Much truer, isn't it? 405 \ 00:55:15.570 --> 00:55:16.440 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Correct. 406 \ 00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:20.489 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: I mean, if… Like that environment map you showed us. 407 \ 00:55:21.070 --> 00:55:27.360 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: If it's obvious that that comes from the Environment Agency, then you'll say, right, okay, happy to believe that. 408 \ 00:55:28.130 --> 00:55:32.180 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: If it comes from the Energy Saving Trust. I'm happy to believe that. 409 \ 00:55:32.820 --> 00:55:40.099 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: If it comes from Greenpeace, who I'm a member of, you gotta be a little bit careful. So… 410 \ 00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:45.389 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: You know, it's… it's… it's about trying to understand whether it's… 411 \ 00:55:46.740 --> 00:55:52.069 \ Dave Scarbrough ECO Action Maidenhead: you know, scientifically proven and so on. So, it's a bit tricky, yeah. 412 \ 00:55:52.070 --> 00:55:59.419 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: It is. I do think the scope for us putting in the source more clearly. 413 \ 00:55:59.860 --> 00:56:14.189 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Usually the link name will show you what the source is, but I agree that it doesn't necessarily confirm any validity for truth or fact, but I think that's a step beyond where we are at the moment. 414 \ 00:56:14.690 --> 00:56:37.100 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: If you bear in mind that what we're trying to do is to enable very harassed and busy parish clerks and councillors to actually get moving on something, then we're just trying to say, don't reinvent the wheel, it's already been done for your size and location of place, by such and such, and good luck, and hopefully we're just saving you an enormous amount of thinking and time. 415 \ 00:56:37.100 --> 00:56:38.460 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: In getting started. 416 \ 00:56:38.560 --> 00:56:54.510 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: whatever we provide, I'm expecting almost everybody will need to amend to suit their particular requirements, because everywhere is different. Just the fact that different people are doing it, they all look at things in different ways, and have different approaches to the same solution. 417 \ 00:56:56.380 --> 00:57:13.390 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: It's very much an individual thing, so we're just trying to save people time at the moment, just by… if you go out on the internet and ask for a… give me an example of a climate action plan, you'll get 200 answers. And what we're trying to show you is an example from a town that works, and from one that… 418 \ 00:57:13.390 --> 00:57:18.180 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: A small parish council that works, and from a larger parish council, or a county level. 419 \ 00:57:18.180 --> 00:57:21.260 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Just so that people have saved time. 420 \ 00:57:22.570 --> 00:57:23.539 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Does that help you? 421 \ 00:57:24.100 --> 00:57:25.080 \ Wendy Thomson: Yes. That's fine. 422 \ 00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:28.290 \ Wendy Thomson: Can I just… I'm just interested, then, is… 423 \ 00:57:28.610 --> 00:57:38.850 \ Wendy Thomson: Do you have any records of how many different councils are engaging with the, with your organization. 424 \ 00:57:39.460 --> 00:57:46.220 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Oh, yes, I can tell you how many people talk to us, and it… what I haven't done very well is… is… 425 \ 00:57:46.610 --> 00:58:00.419 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: recorded frequency, so I can tell you that, you know, Wendy's been to at least one of these sessions, but I couldn't tell you how many, because I haven't aggregated the data yet. It's available, I just haven't done it. 426 \ 00:58:01.200 --> 00:58:01.740 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: I've been… 427 \ 00:58:01.740 --> 00:58:04.639 \ Wendy Thomson: I just keep telling people about you, and I'm not… 428 \ 00:58:04.810 --> 00:58:09.310 \ Wendy Thomson: commence certain councils actually bothered to come and check you out? 429 \ 00:58:09.530 --> 00:58:25.629 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Oh, I see. Well, we do get… the system does record who visits the website, for instance, and I would need to look to… I honestly haven't worked out whether I can do that with Gitbook. I probably can, but I haven't looked. 430 \ 00:58:26.660 --> 00:58:28.879 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Stuart, good day to you again. 431 \ 00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:34.929 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Thank you. I was just gonna comment on, Dave's, 432 \ 00:58:35.100 --> 00:58:44.699 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: concerns. Most of the, substance that is in the knowledge base has been presented at these open sessions. 433 \ 00:58:44.830 --> 00:58:52.120 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: And has therefore been scrutinized, to a certain extent, by the audience here, which… 434 \ 00:58:52.540 --> 00:58:56.980 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Are all in their own little… way, 435 \ 00:58:57.430 --> 00:59:03.260 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: experts. They're obviously keen, interested, and knowledgeable. 436 \ 00:59:03.690 --> 00:59:07.720 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: So, it is something that has been presented to the group as a whole. 437 \ 00:59:07.950 --> 00:59:15.990 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: and has been, accepted and acknowledged, you know, I think that does give it a certain amount of validity. 438 \ 00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:30.739 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Well, that's very kind. Of course, we also, have lots of comments made in the chats during these sessions, and those are all published as well. So you're right, people do say, well, actually, there's another place to look here, and there's another place to look there. 439 \ 00:59:30.990 --> 00:59:36.649 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And those are all recorded and available on the site. So, thank you, you know, it's a good point. 440 \ 00:59:37.450 --> 00:59:44.000 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: And I would just, whilst we're here, I'd like to make another point. I've been to several other 441 \ 00:59:44.380 --> 00:59:47.830 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Climate and environment-related group meetings. 442 \ 00:59:48.370 --> 00:59:55.279 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: And the public awareness of, the great collaboration is rather low. 443 \ 00:59:55.680 --> 01:00:02.619 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I was at a meeting last week called the Essex Area Sustainability Forum. 444 \ 01:00:03.390 --> 01:00:07.569 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: And I was telling people, you ought to have a look at the great collaboration. 445 \ 01:00:07.710 --> 01:00:12.479 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I think it'd be a really good idea to, have some business cards. 446 \ 01:00:13.150 --> 01:00:14.670 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: to hand out. 447 \ 01:00:14.950 --> 01:00:19.550 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Yes, that is true. We do have business cards, but we haven't given them to you, but you're upset. 448 \ 01:00:19.550 --> 01:00:20.200 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: No. 449 \ 01:00:20.200 --> 01:00:20.550 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Yes. 450 \ 01:00:21.430 --> 01:00:22.710 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Or you could. 451 \ 01:00:22.710 --> 01:00:24.889 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Could you give me a few business cards, then? 452 \ 01:00:24.890 --> 01:00:27.970 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Yes, of course I will, Stuart. I shall send them to you. 453 \ 01:00:27.970 --> 01:00:29.129 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Just to spread the word. 454 \ 01:00:29.130 --> 01:00:29.450 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Good thing. 455 \ 01:00:29.450 --> 01:00:30.779 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Okay. Yes. Thank you. 456 \ 01:00:30.780 --> 01:00:37.869 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Funnily enough, just out of sheer interest, the one county council that has paid most attention to us is Essex. 457 \ 01:00:38.350 --> 01:00:42.469 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Yes. They're our largest and most repeating clients so far. 458 \ 01:00:43.090 --> 01:00:54.409 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Which is… which is great. So, yeah, the workshops that we put on have been mostly in Essex. We're now doing a whole bunch in… in Buckinghamshire as well, but… so, Milton Keynes, watch out. 459 \ 01:00:54.580 --> 01:00:58.410 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Yep, you're there, Jane. 460 \ 01:00:59.450 --> 01:01:08.000 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: But yes, the word needs to spread, I agree. If you recall casting your mind back, we agreed a year ago that we would run a pilot 461 \ 01:01:08.060 --> 01:01:21.880 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: To teach us what people needed and what they wanted, and how it should work with East Anglia. And then as the mapping came in, all of the first mapping information was applicable to East Anglia. But we've now… 462 \ 01:01:21.890 --> 01:01:28.760 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Made it available nationwide, and we need now to catch up with the answers that we're getting and put them on the map. 463 \ 01:01:29.250 --> 01:01:38.170 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: But, it's growing, it's growing. We just… really, the next stage is to get the funding in so we can start putting it on a more formalized basis. 464 \ 01:01:41.740 --> 01:01:46.700 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Can I help anybody else with questions, or are we all exhausted? 465 \ 01:01:47.830 --> 01:01:52.760 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Well, I would just, answer David Newman's point. 466 \ 01:01:52.990 --> 01:01:54.800 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: about a QR code. 467 \ 01:01:54.950 --> 01:02:00.299 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I have found them to be a lot less effective than you would think. 468 \ 01:02:00.650 --> 01:02:06.580 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I think there's a certain group of people who, yes, they're very happy, and they'll use QR codes. 469 \ 01:02:06.790 --> 01:02:10.559 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: But, we put QR codes on… 470 \ 01:02:10.680 --> 01:02:22.049 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: thousands of leaflets advertising a climate action meeting, and not one single person responded via a QR code. 471 \ 01:02:22.050 --> 01:02:22.950 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Really? 472 \ 01:02:22.950 --> 01:02:23.620 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Yes. 473 \ 01:02:24.820 --> 01:02:25.570 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Interesting. 474 \ 01:02:26.720 --> 01:02:41.340 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: What have you found is the most effective way? Because I must say, we've been advertising the, the sharing of the video and so forth, and our Environment Awareness Day, and there's no question that Facebook is by far the most effective 475 \ 01:02:41.450 --> 01:02:46.539 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: means of communication with our local community. I'm sure it varies from community to community, but… 476 \ 01:02:46.700 --> 01:02:51.919 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I think it depends a lot on the age group of the people you're targeting. 477 \ 01:02:54.050 --> 01:03:06.049 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: But, so the meeting I was at last week, this EA sustained meeting, they skewed using QR codes as a method of, communicating with people. 478 \ 01:03:06.410 --> 01:03:07.120 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Right. 479 \ 01:03:07.810 --> 01:03:13.369 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And, your evidence is that, so far, it hasn't been that effective. 480 \ 01:03:13.370 --> 01:03:14.169 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Yes, I think you are. 481 \ 01:03:14.170 --> 01:03:15.910 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: It depends so much on the… 482 \ 01:03:15.910 --> 01:03:24.910 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Yeah, I think QR codes are great, if people want to use them, but I found the majority of people just don't. 483 \ 01:03:25.560 --> 01:03:28.450 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Okay. Well, thanks, Stuart. Frank. 484 \ 01:03:28.690 --> 01:03:37.370 \ frank deas Killearn: A real quickie follow-on from Stuart's one. I think one of the challenges we've found is that you… every method you use is really, really good for a subset of people. 485 \ 01:03:37.550 --> 01:03:45.510 \ frank deas Killearn: And leaves a whole swathe of people out. So, Facebook is superb for getting your Facebook users, but they're a certain demographic. 486 \ 01:03:45.520 --> 01:03:58.400 \ frank deas Killearn: So, people who are older don't use Facebook, and the next generation certainly don't use Facebook, so we're kind of stuck with that. And even in our generation that use Facebook, we found there are lots of people who are ethically 487 \ 01:03:58.570 --> 01:04:16.659 \ frank deas Killearn: stewing Facebook because of this tech bros, and they want nothing to do with it. So I think anyone who can crack that conundrum of how it's a community organization to reach all sectors of our communities is really going to be a winner. And that's one of the things I tune in each week for, to see if anyone's got any bright ideas. 488 \ 01:04:17.340 --> 01:04:22.969 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: You know, it seems to be the younger people are very much into Insta and TikTok. 489 \ 01:04:22.970 --> 01:04:23.490 \ frank deas Killearn: Bill. 490 \ 01:04:23.490 --> 01:04:23.880 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Yes. 491 \ 01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:28.110 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: But, you know, that'll change over time, something else will come along, and… 492 \ 01:04:28.370 --> 01:04:28.740 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Yep. 493 \ 01:04:28.740 --> 01:04:32.450 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Reddit, or WhatsApp, or whatever. 494 \ 01:04:33.330 --> 01:04:41.550 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Well, we… we… our population here is very much glued to the Village Hall notice Board, and posters seems to be the way to go. 495 \ 01:04:41.830 --> 01:04:56.080 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: And if you've got enough posters up, then people will follow those. And I remember at the last village I was in, they would hang a banner, a banner across the only road going through the village, and of course, everyone passing through would see the banner, and that was very effective. 496 \ 01:04:56.220 --> 01:05:03.160 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Again, very inexpensive, because you could adopt the same banner for different uses over and over and over. 497 \ 01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:11.339 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I found the local newspaper to be a good way of Communicating with people. 498 \ 01:05:14.260 --> 01:05:17.449 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Indeed Yes, if you, if you have one, absolutely. 499 \ 01:05:17.860 --> 01:05:18.230 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Yes. 500 \ 01:05:18.230 --> 01:05:30.299 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: I'm just fascinated by David, who sent me a link saying that the great collaboration's on YouTube, but it isn't us, that's… I'm gonna have to look at that one, David. Did you… do you get a feel for who they are? 501 \ 01:05:35.050 --> 01:05:38.869 \ David Newman (Blackbird Leys): It's a couple of kids talking about their clubhouse. 502 \ 01:05:39.060 --> 01:05:47.609 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Okay, obviously, it's a great collaboration from their point of view. Yeah. 503 \ 01:05:49.150 --> 01:06:04.969 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: All right, let me, say thank you all very much for your time, greatly appreciated. I hope it was useful, and I look forward to seeing you again next week, where I would look forward even more to telling you what the topic's going to be, but I don't know yet. So I'll work on it. 504 \ 01:06:05.090 --> 01:06:05.680 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Take care. 505 \ 01:06:05.680 --> 01:06:11.289 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I'd just like to thank you, Graeme, for all the hard work you're putting into the indexing system. 506 \ 01:06:11.290 --> 01:06:13.920 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Well, I hope it comes out to be valid. 507 \ 01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:18.700 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I didn't realize how much effort goes into that sort of thing. 508 \ 01:06:18.700 --> 01:06:24.579 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: No, well, it would be nice, wouldn't it, if you could just sort of click a button and off it goes, but I suspect you have to pay for that. 509 \ 01:06:25.120 --> 01:06:26.689 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Like everything else in life. 510 \ 01:06:28.340 --> 01:06:44.099 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: So, if any one of you has any ideas of people who could do banter sessions, who've been to one recently, a presentation or anything that has really caught your eye, then please feel free to let me know, so I can go and grab the same people, see if they'd like to talk to us. 511 \ 01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:49.040 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge: Thank you so much, and all have a great rest of the week, whatever it's going to be. Bye-bye. 512 \ 01:06:49.040 --> 01:06:50.210 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Okay, thanks.
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