Banter 114: 08Apr26 National Emergency Briefing/People's Emergency Briefing with Andrew Maliphant
NEB/PEB followup events, reactions to the PEB screening, bias towards the general population pressurising government to take action, local climate action, food security. local media, councils
Presentation:
No separate presentation this week - the video is the presentation
Meeting Summary: Banter 114 NEB/PEB
Apr 08, 2026 11:57 AM London ID: 834 5460 8536
Quick recap
The meeting focused on discussing responses to the National Emergency Briefing film, which was recently launched to raise awareness about climate and environmental crises. Participants shared experiences from initial screenings and discussed strategies for engaging local communities, including leveraging local media, involving MPs, and organizing follow-up actions. The group explored practical steps for local climate action, such as community energy projects, food security initiatives, and working with parish and town councils. They also addressed the importance of involving harder-to-reach communities and ensuring that actions are both effective and accessible. The discussion highlighted the need for a balanced approach between political lobbying and local community engagement to address the climate emergency effectively.
Next steps
Ric: Send the link to the report and action guide to Graham for inclusion in the knowledge base.
Graham: Add the report and action guide link (to be provided by Ric) to the knowledge base.
Ric: Put the link to the action guide in the chat (completed during meeting, but noted for follow-up).
Andrew Maliphant: Send out briefing papers and links (including the 10-minute film and relevant guidance) to county offices of local councils, SLCC, and other relevant networks after the meeting.
Andrew Maliphant: Add points raised during today's meeting to the briefing papers before distribution.
Andrew Maliphant: Consider sending information and support resources to organizations/individuals listed on the screening map who are hosting film screenings.
Sean: Put the link to the "Just In Case, 7 Steps to Narrow the UK Civil Food Resilience Gap" report in the chat (completed during meeting, but noted for follow-up).
Andrew Maliphant: Put the link to the 10-minute film on the Great Collaboration YouTube channel in the chat (completed during meeting, but noted for follow-up).
Sean: Send contact/email to Andrew Maliphant (or Graham) to be added to the mailing list for future sessions.
Andrew Maliphant: Follow up with Mel (Buckinghamshire county officer) regarding establishment of a Buckinghamshire countywide forum.
Andrew Maliphant: Organize or invite farming/agriculture-focused session(s) for future meetings, potentially involving Alastair or other local farmers.
Summary
National Emergency Briefing Film Discussion
The meeting focused on discussing a recently launched national emergency briefing film and how to support local communities in responding to it. Andrew Maliphant, chair of the Great Collaboration, led the discussion and noted the goal was to use the film as a catalyst for local action rather than causing alarm. The group discussed making their report and action guide available on the knowledge base, with Ric offering to provide the necessary link. Participants also briefly introduced themselves and shared personal anecdotes, though the main discussion about the film content was cut off at the end of the provided transcript.
Climate Film Engagement Strategies
The group discussed reactions to a climate change film screening, with David reporting positive feedback from attendees in Hereford who found it more acceptable than previous climate protests. Sheila from Dorset shared her experience at a launch event, noting the film's effectiveness in engaging people who hadn't previously considered climate issues. The discussion focused on strategies for broader engagement, with participants agreeing that while the film's primary purpose was to influence government action through political pressure rather than community action, they should contact their MPs and advocate for a national TV screening. Allan suggested researching MPs' actual interests and potential conflicts of interest before engaging with them on climate issues.
MP Engagement Strategies for Screenings
The group discussed strategies for engaging with MPs regarding film screenings. David Faulkner suggested attending MP surgeries without prior notice to get them to engage directly. Sean McCarthy shared his experience from Wendover, noting that local media coverage helped gain the MP's attention. Kirstin suggested leveraging local gazettes in rural communities to reach harder-to-reach groups who may not be active on social media. The discussion focused on practical approaches to gain MP involvement and promote screenings in different community settings.
Emergency Preparedness Community Engagement Strategy
Andrew Maliphant presented on a film called "People's Emergency Briefing" which aims to raise local resilience and engage people in emergency preparedness. He discussed key topics from a previous November briefing, including climate change impacts, biodiversity loss, and food security concerns. Ric suggested focusing more on what audience members can do collectively rather than just influencing their MP, which aligned with Andrew's presentation about local responses and community engagement. The meeting included brief discussions about press engagement and sharing relevant resources, though specific decisions or action items were not clearly outlined in the transcript.
Environmental Documentary Teaser Discussion
The group discussed a teaser trailer for an environmental documentary that highlights the urgency of climate action and the need for both local and government-level responses. David Faulkner clarified that while local action is important, it must support broader government initiatives to achieve meaningful change. The team reviewed current screening numbers, with about 500 already booked and 700 inquiries, and discussed next steps including involving MPs in government advocacy and utilizing a forthcoming facilitation guide from the National Emergency Briefing Team.
Community Engagement Messaging Strategy
Andrew Maliphant discussed the need for tailored messaging and pathways to empower different community groups to take collective action following film screenings. He emphasized the importance of identifying local leaders and existing initiatives, collecting contact details at screenings, and organizing follow-up meetings. Andrew also highlighted the development of a 10-minute film offering guidance on next steps and suggested practical support options, including climate action workshops and training programs. The group acknowledged the need for diverse communication strategies to reach various audiences effectively.
Community Energy Transition Initiatives
The group discussed the positive outcomes from recent presentations on energy transition and renewable energy, noting that advancements in wind, solar, and EV adoption were happening faster than expected. Sheila suggested forming a lobbying group to counter oil industry influence, while Graham proposed creating community climate action plans through volunteer engagement rather than top-down directives. The discussion highlighted Gamlinga parish as a successful example of community energy, where a wind turbine installed in 2013 generates around £10,000 annually for local environmental projects, and Kirstin mentioned recent solar panel installations with battery storage at a community preschool building.
Climate Action Community Engagement Strategies
The group discussed strategies for community engagement around climate action and film screenings. Ric shared a new action guide for collaborative climate and nature action, which Andrew agreed to add to the knowledge base. Piers suggested organizing joint film screenings across multiple organizations rather than single-organization events to broader participation. Sean emphasized the importance of identifying and engaging various stakeholders, including local towns and organizations, and recommended repeating messages through multiple film screenings in different venues to reach a wider audience.
Food Security and Civil Defense
The group discussed civil defense and food security concerns, with David Faulkner sharing insights from a presentation by a lieutenant general about the national security risks posed by food system vulnerabilities. Alastair, a farmer, expressed significant concerns about current food security, citing weather impacts on agriculture, economic pressures on farmers, and the reliance on international food imports. The discussion concluded with agreement on the importance of local food resilience efforts, including community gardening and supporting local farmers, though it was acknowledged that these would need to complement rather than replace large-scale farming operations.
Community Climate Action Initiatives
Andrew Maliphant presented a 10-minute film about community climate action and nature recovery, highlighting local projects and initiatives that can be undertaken without government involvement. He discussed the importance of connecting with residents through community meetings and workshops, sharing an example from his previous parish where engaging the community over land use led to high volunteer turnout. Steve suggested involving people through festivals and public events, particularly for smaller parishes, and recommended clustering with nearby parishes for greater impact.
Local Council Collaboration Strategies
Andrew Maliphant discussed the importance of collaboration across parish and town council boundaries for issues like flood management and wildlife conservation. He highlighted the success of the Joint Energy Community Project in Gamlingay, which involved a wind turbine generating approximately £10,000 annually for community projects. Andrew outlined various powers and duties of local councils, including working with higher-level councils under Section 101 of the Local Government Act 1972, and funding opportunities like Section 137 funding up to £11.60 per election. He concluded by advising attendees to connect with local communities, gather evidence, make declarations about climate actions, be critical of planning applications, and start with simple projects while leveraging available resources and support from organizations like Great Collaboration.
Community Action Forum Planning
The meeting focused on the distribution of a recorded Zoom session about community action versus political lobbying. Andrew announced that the recording is now available on YouTube and will be shared through county offices, local councils, and parish clerk membership. The group discussed plans for a countywide forum in Buckinghamshire using an online platform called Hilo, and Sean suggested involving local water companies in environmental initiatives. The participants also touched on food security and farming, with Cllr. Stuart suggesting the need for more sessions on agriculture and farming approaches.
Chat: Banter 114 NEB/PEB
00:11:28 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: So far, the following screenings are scheduled in Shropshire: Market Drayton Climate Action - Friday 17 April, 7.30pm at the Festival Drayton Centre. Free entrance, discussion to follow. Bishop’s Castle: 17/18 April, various screenings, see the poster in Upcoming Events below. Shropshire Wildlife Trust - Saturday 25 April, 3pm at the Cut in Shrewsbury. Tickets here. Stretton Climate Care - Tuesday May 5th, 7pm, at the United Reformed Church Hall, Church Stretton Broseley Climate Action Group is hosting a screening at the Birchmeadow Centre, Broseley on Friday 8 May, starting at 7pm. Admission is free but donations welcome. Tickets via the Birchmeadow Centre website.
00:16:34 John Payne Penallt Monmouthshire: I would like to mention Welsh Resilience Hubs, some 40 in all. In Penallt we have a community building, which is modern, large and associated with the tennis and cricket clubs. It has two Tesla Powerwalls , with a bar, small kitchen and toilets. It can host meetings and has enough space to sleep and support at least most of the scattered rural community. A Fish n ‘ Chip van comes every Thursday.
00:17:51 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Reacted to "I would like to ment..." with 👍
00:19:09 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Anyone know if there have there been any official responses from the main political parties to the film? 00:20:22 David Newman: I have to got to another webinar at 1230 (on paritcipatory budgeting). 00:20:57 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): In Bembridge, a new MP position (Isle of Wight East) was created last election, and we have a young man full of vim and vigour. He has already agreed to come to our showing of the PEB - so we are blessed! 00:21:15 David Newman: I would like to bring the MP and rival candidates from other parties at a screening. My objective is to replace her with a Green Party MP.
00:21:42 John Payne Penallt Monmouthshire: We also have a community owned village shop and PO, I am one of the 8 volunteers who own and help support it. It had a huge presence in Covid, it is across the river in England. These are resources that all communities should have. I don’t think MPs are that useful, Parish Councils and Community pressure groups are more useful 00:26:05 John Payne Penallt Monmouthshire: https://www.gov.wales/sites/default/files/publications/2025-05/wales-resilience-framework-2025.pdf
Much work has already been done in Wales, see these resources! 00:26:23 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Great idea to invite the press, Kirstin - thank you! 00:27:50 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): RE local press - prepare your own press release to make local journalist's job easy! 00:28:25 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: Reacted to "RE local press - p..." with 👍
00:29:29 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): ref Food Resilience challenge, this is good https://nationalpreparednesscommission.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/NPC-Just-in-Case-Executive-Summary_PDF-Download.pdf
00:29:46 Vicky Freeman Ilminster Town Council: Apologies, I am going to have to leave the meeting
00:36:36 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Information about the National Emergency Briefing and the People’s Emergency Briefing is available on our Knowledgebase, search for ‘NEB’ or ‘PEB’ at https://wiki.greatcollaboration.uk/knowledgebase/. It is being updated on a daily basis, so well worth re-visiting regularly…….
00:39:39 John Payne Penallt Monmouthshire: I am going to the screening in Shirenewton this evening , a small village north of Chepstow in the hills. Funding was obtained from Welsh Gov for the Resilience Hubs 00:46:54 John Payne Penallt Monmouthshire: It is also important to have one’s own Resilience Plan, particularly in light of recent geopolitical instability. I store enough energy for two years( timber) and have food resources for about 6 weeks.
00:53:34 David Morgan-Jones: Thank you very much - all very interesting 00:53:41 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): Guide created to help deliver climate and nature action more effectively: www.carboncopy.eco/changeprint/report 00:55:27 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): Report published two weeks ago. Identifies the ways of working together that can have a big impact.
00:58:10 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: I have to drop off my parish councillors nomination forms for the upcoming election, so have to leave now- very interesting session, thanks everyone! 01:00:48 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Apolohgies - have to leave now. was invited to join this zoom by Belinda Bawdon (Dorset Council for Lyme Regis). Thanks. 01:02:48 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: https://www.nebriefing.org/ 01:02:51 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Thanks for this. Useful to discussion. I need to go now.
01:03:31 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): https://ukresilienceacademy.org/
01:05:43 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): Thanks for a good discussion, apologies I have to leave now.
01:05:46 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Sweden and Finland both very strong on citizens’ responsibilities in times of emergency, and have very clear handbooks available to make such responsibilities clear - eg each person needs to have two weeks’ supply of food, water, candles, heat, etc ready to hand… 01:06:29 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Need to run now, apologies, but thank you all for such a lively and exciting session. 01:23:45 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Now on Youtube at https://youtu.be/QXcyx7GimxQ 01:25:40 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Thank you. I am organising a showing so this was very useful. 01:26:22 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): [email protected] 01:27:04 David Faulkner: Need to go now - thanks for an excellent session
Audiotranscript of Banter 114 session:
107 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:54.410 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Andrew Malfront, currently Chair of the Great Collaboration. I'm also the Environment and Sustainability Advisor for the Society of Local Council Clerks, and apparently Deputy Chairman of NAUC's Climate Emergency Network, so I'm spreading around the landscape a bit.
108 00:08:54.470 --> 00:09:03.400 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Very much focused on supporting parents and town councils working with their communities in responses to climate change and nature recovery.
109 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.339 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: This national emergency film, which has come forward
110 00:09:07.430 --> 00:09:17.780 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: following a national emergency briefing in Westminster Hall in November, is very much, something that we feel we, as the great collaboration, we should be responding to.
111 00:09:17.780 --> 00:09:29.880 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Not least because, as Graeme suggested earlier, we don't want people just to be sort of alarmed by the film, or whatever it says, but we do want to have… use it as a springboard for more local action, and helping people to develop that.
112 00:09:29.980 --> 00:09:35.960 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Before I start my presentation, is there anybody here present who has already seen the film? Because it was launched yesterday.
113 00:09:36.330 --> 00:09:45.139 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay, David, do you want to tell us, David and Sheila? David, first, David, do you want to tell us what your… what it… what your reaction to it? How did it…
114 00:09:45.260 --> 00:09:47.010 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: How did it land with your audience?
115 00:09:48.140 --> 00:09:56.499 David Faulkner: It landed as you would expect, actually, and some people A bit shocked.
116 00:09:56.860 --> 00:10:03.889 David Faulkner: some people… Would have seen similar before in days gone by, when they were…
117 00:10:04.100 --> 00:10:09.899 David Faulkner: Around 8 years ago, with, kind of Extinction Rebellion type.
118 00:10:10.290 --> 00:10:14.310 David Faulkner: Presentations, and when all the climate protests were going on.
119 00:10:14.830 --> 00:10:22.660 David Faulkner: Right. I was quite relieved that somebody's doing something now to… counter all the…
120 00:10:23.930 --> 00:10:30.540 David Faulkner: Politicising of the climate crisis, and there's now a vehicle that says, well, look at this.
121 00:10:31.230 --> 00:10:33.349 David Faulkner: And it's actually much more…
122 00:10:34.370 --> 00:10:35.230 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: positive.
123 00:10:35.700 --> 00:10:42.740 David Faulkner: it's much more positive at the end, and it's much more… I think it's much more acceptable than the sort of thing that Extinction Rebellion were.
124 00:10:43.130 --> 00:10:44.090 David Faulkner: I'm putting out.
125 00:10:44.640 --> 00:10:51.650 David Faulkner: All those years ago. It's just facts and experts and… Very well put.
126 00:10:52.180 --> 00:10:53.990 David Faulkner: Nicely structured film.
127 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:55.640 David Faulkner: got people…
128 00:10:56.330 --> 00:11:04.009 David Faulkner: giving instant reactions to seeing it, some well-known faces, I've, you know, recruited people to sit and watch it, and then…
129 00:11:04.640 --> 00:11:09.219 David Faulkner: Cool. Give their instant reaction, so that's quite a good…
130 00:11:10.260 --> 00:11:12.060 David Faulkner: good way of doing the whole film, I think.
131 00:11:12.620 --> 00:11:15.959 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Which part of the country were… where… did you see it? Which was the.
132 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:17.120 David Faulkner: I'm in Hereford.
133 00:11:17.330 --> 00:11:27.549 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Hereford, okay. And was there, I know, obviously, the Hereford, Green Network has been very active. In fact, this is the network that founded the Great Collaboration. Yeah, that's true.
134 00:11:27.550 --> 00:11:28.040 David Faulkner: Yes.
135 00:11:28.040 --> 00:11:34.659 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Indeed. Was there… was there any, follow-up, or planned follow-up, David?
136 00:11:36.370 --> 00:11:43.309 David Faulkner: there were quite a lot of suggestions of planned follow-up. I mean, most of the things that are in the film, they give you some actions to do.
137 00:11:43.410 --> 00:11:47.470 David Faulkner: You know, I… in accordance with their strategy.
138 00:11:48.430 --> 00:11:51.099 David Faulkner: So… Write to your MP.
139 00:11:51.290 --> 00:11:53.890 David Faulkner: Make sure you see if the MP went to the briefing.
140 00:11:54.300 --> 00:11:57.690 David Faulkner: If they didn't, ask them why. Show them so you see the film.
141 00:11:58.320 --> 00:11:59.800 David Faulkner: Come to a briefing.
142 00:12:00.750 --> 00:12:04.629 David Faulkner: I can't imagine you'll get many MPs turning up to a briefing. It's quite a high…
143 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:08.240 David Faulkner: quite an intensive place for an MP to go.
144 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:14.530 David Faulkner: When you watch this sort of film, they've… they've struggled to defend themselves, I think.
145 00:12:15.130 --> 00:12:17.659 David Faulkner: Yeah. But right to your MP.
146 00:12:18.220 --> 00:12:25.660 David Faulkner: And say that you want a national screen… their main focus is they want a national screening on primetime TV.
147 00:12:26.060 --> 00:12:26.940 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Yup.
148 00:12:26.990 --> 00:12:29.200 David Faulkner: So that everybody sees it.
149 00:12:29.370 --> 00:12:30.779 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: At the same time.
150 00:12:31.730 --> 00:12:38.670 David Faulkner: Yeah, because what will happen is, you know, we're… I mean, the first thing is to have a showing and sort of spread the word.
151 00:12:39.340 --> 00:12:46.910 David Faulkner: So, you know, we'll end up… yeah, I mean, Herefordshire, we'll probably end up with quite a few showings around the county. I think there's two.
152 00:12:47.610 --> 00:12:52.569 David Faulkner: on the list yesterday. There'll be more, I think, in the coming days.
153 00:12:55.880 --> 00:13:02.389 David Faulkner: But get people along, but you'll only get… the people who'll come along, unfortunately, will be the people who've already seen
154 00:13:02.680 --> 00:13:06.519 David Faulkner: Similar type films, similar type knowledge.
155 00:13:06.750 --> 00:13:13.960 David Faulkner: You won't get to the people who you need to convince to say, something needs to change here, and it needs to change fast.
156 00:13:14.750 --> 00:13:15.160 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right.
157 00:13:15.800 --> 00:13:21.250 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: You need to slot at the same time as Coronation Street and, EastEnders.
158 00:13:21.560 --> 00:13:26.180 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: And, say, sorry, it's canceled for tonight. Have a look at this for a change.
159 00:13:27.270 --> 00:13:28.220 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: There we go.
160 00:13:28.660 --> 00:13:33.359 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Sheila from Broad Windsor in Dorset, what was the reaction at your screening?
161 00:13:33.940 --> 00:13:42.200 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Hi, I… I'm not a counsellor, I represent Broad Windsor Parish Council.
162 00:13:42.380 --> 00:13:48.650 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: In West Dorset, and I'm also part of Bemminster Area Eco Group.
163 00:13:48.800 --> 00:13:54.390 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: And Beministry, the Eco Group is hosting a showing on the 24th of April.
164 00:13:54.740 --> 00:14:13.099 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: in Bemminster, to which we've invited local counsellors and various other people, faith groups, and anybody else that we can think that might be interested. I went to the launch in Bridport yesterday evening.
165 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:23.939 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: And, it was very well attended, but as the other gentleman was saying, probably by those who are already faithful to the cause.
166 00:14:24.220 --> 00:14:30.509 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: There was… I found… personally found it very powerful.
167 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:53.190 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: And I liked the way that Chris Packham was sitting casually with various groups of individuals, watching it, and just chatting, and their reactions were the reactions of people who hadn't thought much about these sorts of things before, and
168 00:14:53.260 --> 00:14:58.259 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: I thought their honest reactions were great, because people will be able to
169 00:14:58.820 --> 00:15:07.109 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: link with that and say, I'm not alone. I don't feel so stupid. Other people think like this, too.
170 00:15:07.270 --> 00:15:12.719 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: And we need to… Find ways of working as communities.
171 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:20.470 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: to spread the word. I mean, I don't… I've always been asking, how do you get people who…
172 00:15:20.610 --> 00:15:22.450 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Don't want to know.
173 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:28.300 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Aren't interested, have pressing other social problems to deal with.
174 00:15:28.400 --> 00:15:33.979 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: And thinking about what's going to happen with the climate is just beyond their ability.
175 00:15:34.580 --> 00:15:48.350 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: how do we spread our message to include those people and make them not afraid? I mean, we can't be afraid and panic, we've got to do things in measured ways.
176 00:15:49.680 --> 00:15:56.449 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: But overall, I thought the film was brilliant. I thought it was really well produced, well presented.
177 00:15:56.590 --> 00:15:59.520 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: And accessible to absolutely everyone.
178 00:16:00.690 --> 00:16:03.149 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Thank you very much, Sheila.
179 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:22.680 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, really, what I wanted to come out of today's discussions is, what are the other ways that we can do what Sheila's just described? How do we gauge people? How do we support them, the things that we can do? And in fact, what neither of you has said is that it was focusing a lot on community action and local action.
180 00:16:22.870 --> 00:16:27.119 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: what you've said is that it's very much looking at still going for your MP, is that fair?
181 00:16:31.760 --> 00:16:33.100 David Faulkner: Probably, yeah.
182 00:16:34.350 --> 00:16:35.880 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Yeah, after you.
183 00:16:37.580 --> 00:16:39.090 David Faulkner: Okay, thanks, Sheila.
184 00:16:39.190 --> 00:16:42.940 David Faulkner: I think the main… purpose of…
185 00:16:43.710 --> 00:16:51.330 David Faulkner: Them producing this film and doing the briefing is still to get… governments and…
186 00:16:51.800 --> 00:16:55.769 David Faulkner: Departments to take action, take appropriate action.
187 00:16:57.030 --> 00:17:03.350 David Faulkner: It's also to brief… the general population.
188 00:17:03.790 --> 00:17:09.260 David Faulkner: So, they will put pressure on… Said governments to take action.
189 00:17:10.670 --> 00:17:11.449 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So it's very much.
190 00:17:11.450 --> 00:17:11.770 David Faulkner: Nope.
191 00:17:11.770 --> 00:17:12.740 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: agenda, yeah.
192 00:17:12.740 --> 00:17:15.099 David Faulkner: I think that's what it… I don't think it's saying…
193 00:17:15.619 --> 00:17:18.240 David Faulkner: You should go out and do this, and…
194 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:22.940 David Faulkner: Recycle your yogurt pots, and, you know, it… it's…
195 00:17:23.760 --> 00:17:30.789 David Faulkner: I mean, a lot of people will do that, but it's to take political action and vote. Contact your MP,
196 00:17:31.170 --> 00:17:32.659 David Faulkner: Get them to vote.
197 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:34.230 David Faulkner: accordingly.
198 00:17:34.670 --> 00:17:35.290 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right.
199 00:17:35.290 --> 00:17:38.210 David Faulkner: I think that's what the message is when you go onto there.
200 00:17:39.230 --> 00:17:45.259 David Faulkner: The website is a really good website that the emergency briefing have got of what they did.
201 00:17:49.110 --> 00:17:51.049 David Faulkner: That's my take from it.
202 00:17:51.210 --> 00:17:53.779 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yep. Is that your take as well, Sheila?
203 00:17:53.780 --> 00:18:12.820 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Generally speaking, yes, I think, we need leadership from the center, people taking action, doing more, and, you know, they promise so much in their manifesto, the current government, and they're retracting all the way.
204 00:18:13.070 --> 00:18:14.560 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: At the moment.
205 00:18:15.170 --> 00:18:17.349 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Can I make a suggestion, Andre?
206 00:18:17.670 --> 00:18:18.450 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Go for it.
207 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:27.240 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: In relation to your MPs, if you've never done it, I certainly have, with all five in Shropshire, is look at their actual interests.
208 00:18:27.380 --> 00:18:31.680 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: That's the ones that are actually recorded at the Houses of Parliament.
209 00:18:32.040 --> 00:18:35.270 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: and my own personal MP for where I live.
210 00:18:35.490 --> 00:18:45.039 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: He actually works and has got money coming in in income from various oil companies that he works for.
211 00:18:45.140 --> 00:18:46.259 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: on the side.
212 00:18:47.760 --> 00:18:56.050 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: So, I know for a fact, because I've written to him in the past, on these issues, and Andrew knows I've been banging this drum for a long time.
213 00:18:56.050 --> 00:18:56.740 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Indeed.
214 00:18:57.280 --> 00:19:05.559 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: I've never had one response from my MP in relation to it, not even an acknowledgement. I've had his… I've had his lackey
215 00:19:05.560 --> 00:19:22.760 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: email me for clarity, because once, I put it in under my councillor name, and said, is this a council motion, or is it a personal one? I had to confess up and say it was a personal one. I'd sent it on my parish email account by mistake, because I was so bloody angry at the time.
216 00:19:23.540 --> 00:19:32.430 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Anyway, sorry about that. But these are the things that you need to research before you actually look at your MPs as to
217 00:19:33.290 --> 00:19:40.070 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: judge, for want of a better phrase, and this would have come across, I hope, in the film, because I've not seen it yet.
218 00:19:40.230 --> 00:19:44.790 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Where you look at your MP, and you test them for integrity.
219 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:48.299 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: As to what their stand… what they actually stand for.
220 00:19:48.550 --> 00:19:51.710 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: And when it comes to time for voting for people.
221 00:19:51.820 --> 00:20:01.539 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: then you look at who they are, and what they stand for, and whether they're worthy of being voted for. And I think that's another angle that we need to be looking at.
222 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:10.870 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: From that aspect of how we choose people that are representing us, not what they say, who and what they actually do.
223 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:11.830 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right.
224 00:20:12.710 --> 00:20:13.410 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, good news.
225 00:20:13.410 --> 00:20:20.069 David Faulkner: So, yeah, one thing is, there was some discussion about how to engage with MPs on this, and…
226 00:20:20.340 --> 00:20:25.729 David Faulkner: you know, a lot of people in the room had already written to MPs before, and you do get the MPs
227 00:20:26.280 --> 00:20:34.260 David Faulkner: Support network gives you a nice reply fairly quickly, it's a bit bland, it doesn't actually answer the question commonly.
228 00:20:34.590 --> 00:20:42.810 David Faulkner: there's a… there was some comments say the best way to find out what your MP thinks and to get them to actually engage with you is to go to a surgery.
229 00:20:43.120 --> 00:20:45.600 David Faulkner: Don't tell them what you're gonna talk about, just go and…
230 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:47.619 David Faulkner: Hit them in the face with it, right?
231 00:20:47.810 --> 00:20:51.550 David Faulkner: Not literally, but, you know, I want to talk to you about the…
232 00:20:52.180 --> 00:20:55.640 David Faulkner: Client emergency, whatever, and this briefing, and…
233 00:20:55.740 --> 00:20:56.430 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Yep.
234 00:20:56.610 --> 00:21:01.730 David Faulkner: Did you go? Why didn't you go if you didn't? If you did go, what are you doing about it? You know.
235 00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:03.270 David Faulkner: Put them on the spot.
236 00:21:04.730 --> 00:21:05.480 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay.
237 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:16.889 David Faulkner: Let them get away with giving you a bland response in writing, saying, we're doing all we can, and, you know, it's, you know, it's the cost of living, and can't do this now, and we'll do it later, and…
238 00:21:17.710 --> 00:21:19.800 David Faulkner: Yeah. That is not the message.
239 00:21:20.610 --> 00:21:30.080 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right. There's a couple of things, thanks, I'll come to you in a minute, Sean. We've got a couple of things in the chat about what about political parties? Have they responded to it? And,
240 00:21:30.470 --> 00:21:44.699 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: David's saying in Oxfordshire we'd like to bring candidates from other parties, as well as the MP, to a screening. That's an interesting approach. I don't know if there's been any official responses from the main political party of the firm. Of course, it was only launched, yesterday.
241 00:21:44.800 --> 00:21:50.870 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I'm not aware, unless anybody knows any different, that there hasn't been any official responses from anybody yet.
242 00:21:51.210 --> 00:21:53.550 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Sean, you've got your hand up, mate, and then we'll come…
243 00:21:53.550 --> 00:21:58.680 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): So, I'm Sean McCarthy, I'm from Wendover in Buckinghamshire, a small
244 00:21:58.850 --> 00:22:09.929 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): town, just outside Aylesbury. We've got a lot of activity here of different groups, but I also contribute to the, local newspaper.
245 00:22:10.050 --> 00:22:25.659 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And we find that actually having somebody… and it's a tiny newspaper, the Wendover News, circulation of 5,000, or something like that. However, that does mean that our local MP, Greg Smith, actually, likes to…
246 00:22:25.660 --> 00:22:42.279 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): I don't want to over-egg it, but sort of likes to keep us on side, if you see what I mean, that he will respond, to the newspaper, because we could put a… and we haven't, but we could put a big picture of him on the front page, saying.
247 00:22:42.470 --> 00:22:48.569 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): you know, whatever he didn't want us to repeat. But, I'm just thinking of using leverage.
248 00:22:48.630 --> 00:23:07.380 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): From, local media, maybe the bigger newspapers, the Bucks Herald would be the sort of next level up, and et cetera, et cetera. But the MPs… we're very fortunate he has his surgery in our village as well, so, he's the Conservative MP for Mid-Bucks.
249 00:23:07.460 --> 00:23:16.339 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And… but he actually does well by working with the Labour MP from Northbucks, and we can get them both together.
250 00:23:16.340 --> 00:23:30.560 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And they try and outdo each other in their green credentials, which is quite useful as well. So, I totally agree with what Alan says, a bit of homework beforehand. What's their interest? This particular one is from farming.
251 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:38.580 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): stock. I'm not sure what the… what the lady in Aylesbury's from. But yeah, so, yeah, play…
252 00:23:38.830 --> 00:23:42.089 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): play them… Almost at their own game, by…
253 00:23:42.090 --> 00:23:42.780 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Things look like.
254 00:23:42.780 --> 00:23:51.610 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): you know, it's a bit like fishing, really, isn't it? But certainly, using local media is quite useful, and that could be Facebook or,
255 00:23:51.620 --> 00:24:04.910 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): WhatsApp, or whatever it is, because they have to be cognizant of what people are saying there. They can't ignore it, but they will ignore emails, and even surgery, I think they'll ignore, to be honest, nowadays.
256 00:24:05.370 --> 00:24:06.359 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Just a thought.
257 00:24:06.650 --> 00:24:14.950 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Thanks for that, Sean. Fascinating how you can get the Labour and Tories together. Yeah. Kirsten! Kirsten, you've got a hand up, yeah.
258 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:30.580 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: Yeah, just to follow in up on that, actually, the point I was going to make, we're a community, about 4,000 population, rural community, and we do have a local Gazette that gets published every month.
259 00:24:30.580 --> 00:24:37.489 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: So, I was thinking any other rural communities of a similar ilk that have a small, paper.
260 00:24:37.490 --> 00:24:48.729 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: Whether or not they've got a reporter that goes out and actually records the event and finds out people's reaction, then writes an article about it, might be a really good way of
261 00:24:48.730 --> 00:24:58.390 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: Trying to engage those that perhaps aren't on social media, the harder-to-reach groups, perhaps within the parish, that will read a physical copy of a
262 00:24:58.390 --> 00:25:14.919 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: local magazine, news, news from the village, will sit and read a physical copy, but won't look at social media. So, I think, actually, as a result of this meeting and listening to the other contributors, I think that would be a really good way, trying to get
263 00:25:15.020 --> 00:25:21.939 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: the, the editor of the Gazette to come out and actually watch the film with the other members of the community.
264 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:27.930 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: And get them to write. Whether or not it might be good press by press, you don't know how they're going to react, but…
265 00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:43.270 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: Obviously, it does get the message out, possibly to those harder-to-reach groups for them to read in a, perhaps in a way that others, other methods might not work in, in sort of, traditional rural communities.
266 00:25:43.910 --> 00:25:56.820 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Great, thank you so much for that. Yeah, this is exactly the… these are the kind of thoughts I was hoping that we could gather today and share as to how we might advise people around the nation who are going to be managing screenings as to how they might go forward for it.
267 00:25:57.280 --> 00:26:03.510 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay, so I have got a presentation to cover through this, which has put a bit of background. Sorry, Rick, did you have your hand up?
268 00:26:03.780 --> 00:26:08.099 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): I did, but maybe I should wait until after your presentation?
269 00:26:09.210 --> 00:26:16.340 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): It depends what you're gonna say in your presentation, but… so the point, the broad point I'd like to make, and you tell me if I should make it now or later, is…
270 00:26:16.550 --> 00:26:28.720 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): we're thinking of taking a slightly different angle in terms of not so much focusing on influencing our MP, but focusing more on what can people in the audience do collectively.
271 00:26:29.460 --> 00:26:38.030 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): And that being the action to focus on as much as trying to influence our MP to vote the right way.
272 00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:58.019 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Great. That's very much what I'm about to talk about as well, as you might be unsurprised to know, as we've been in touch for some time, and the great collaboration is very much about getting people to work together at local level, and how we can do these things. There is a space for campaigning, of course there is a space involving our MPs.
273 00:26:58.020 --> 00:27:03.940 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But there's another opportunity to do stuff locally as well, so we can see how we get going with that.
274 00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:08.139 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay, let me get this up, up to speed.
275 00:27:14.070 --> 00:27:19.150 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Why is it that the, the zoom bars always get in the way of what you want to do with your screen? I don't know.
276 00:27:19.690 --> 00:27:24.129 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You know you want to do. There you go. So…
277 00:27:25.180 --> 00:27:37.149 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: People's Emergency Briefing, which is what they're calling the film, as opposed to the National Emergency Briefing, which is what the November showing. Local responses that help raise local resilience, because,
278 00:27:37.270 --> 00:27:48.130 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: There is an opportunity, perhaps, to re-engage more people that have not been engaged before, but also there's a concern that people don't get so overly alarmed.
279 00:27:48.410 --> 00:28:05.100 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: that they get a sort of negative reaction to it all. In terms of letting people know what's going on, there, of course, a lot of places are having floods, or that they've never had floods before, so there are, places where there are perhaps
280 00:28:05.250 --> 00:28:19.600 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: already have experiencing some of the things that the buoyancy briefing is talking about, and therefore there will be already perhaps been some groups and activities happening in some parts of the country which are not happening in others.
281 00:28:19.600 --> 00:28:27.949 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, in a way that people will have heard a certain amount of what's going on already, but it's going to be patches, isn't it, across the nation?
282 00:28:28.780 --> 00:28:45.479 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Talking about resilience, which is also a very common phrase that's coming up in the numbers lately, harnessing local resources and expertise to help themselves, and I think this is, it's rather a bit wordy what the government has said there, but I think that's an,
283 00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:49.199 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I like that part of what they've described there, is that how we can
284 00:28:49.320 --> 00:28:57.269 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: if you like, help people to help themselves to prepare and respond from disruptive challenges. There are going to be more challenges, likely, as we go forward.
285 00:28:57.660 --> 00:29:09.820 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And our lives. And my personal view is that the more we can get people used to speaking to each other and working together, with each other's groups, with the local parish and town council or whatever, then the better.
286 00:29:10.540 --> 00:29:18.889 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So there we go. Just to give us an idea of what was said at the full November briefing, and I don't imagine all of this has been put in the film.
287 00:29:19.070 --> 00:29:33.209 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We had different… 9 different experts talking, on November, and this is… the filming of that is available on their website. We've lost 53% of our biodiversity in this country. I think we've… enough people will know about that.
288 00:29:33.760 --> 00:29:40.220 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The climate, peak has said, we keep burning fossil fuels, temperatures will keep rising, understand.
289 00:29:40.660 --> 00:29:52.260 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: UK getting wetter in winter and faster than models predicted. That was the… these are just… these are just, elements from this summary of… the published summary of what the speaker said in November.
290 00:29:52.640 --> 00:30:07.259 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Biggest risk, the fail of the ocean current that keeps the UK's climate mild. I went to a presentation last year, and scientists were saying, once the Arctic ice totally melts, then the equilibrium in the North Atlantic will change.
291 00:30:07.260 --> 00:30:20.419 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And we won't be getting… we won't be coming a temperate nation anymore. We're pretty much the same latitude as parts of Canada, and we'll be getting still heat waves in the summer, but we're getting a lot worse winters.
292 00:30:20.420 --> 00:30:39.870 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And we'll also lose a certain number of food growing days as well. So that's what was the point was being said there. Food security, again, we're importing much of our food. We had heat waves in Spain and North Africa last year, which reduced the number of salad crops available in our supermarkets, and apparently we're going to expect the same today, and they've had floods.
293 00:30:39.910 --> 00:30:45.869 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So there's things to talk about. Health person said, you know, if we… rather than
294 00:30:46.300 --> 00:30:59.100 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: pandemics or other issues, the breakdown of our health systems will be the biggest risk to consider. There was a point made about national security, cascading crisis, overwhelming government systems.
295 00:30:59.340 --> 00:31:09.150 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Economics clinging to the status quo delays change. These are just some of the headlines from the briefing that was given in November.
296 00:31:09.150 --> 00:31:21.549 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: in Westminster Hall. So, those things alone, I don't think all of them were put quite so bluntly, perhaps, in the finished film, but those are the sorts of things that are out there already.
297 00:31:23.310 --> 00:31:36.970 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, what I'll do then, for those of us who may not have seen the trailer, I'm just gonna… I'll put it on the screen, we can just see it only takes about a minute. And then we can… we can see it. Here's the bit on the…
298 00:31:37.150 --> 00:31:41.370 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: On the films is the website's,
299 00:31:41.710 --> 00:31:56.199 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: for the film on screen. Various bits of advice there and guidance about how we could do that. Here's the teaser trailer, the PG version, and you'll see why in a minute. It only takes about a minute. Here we go.
300 00:31:56.650 --> 00:31:57.139 Alastair boyd: Pretty good.
301 00:31:57.140 --> 00:32:05.550 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Scientists say the environmental crisis needs a response similar to the scale of the Second World War.
302 00:32:06.270 --> 00:32:07.120 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Mr. President.
303 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:12.880 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We are in the thick of a crisis. We all have to act.
304 00:32:13.040 --> 00:32:13.940 Alastair boyd: suicide Day.
305 00:32:13.940 --> 00:32:28.219 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: It's getting worse fast, and we're not prepared. I'm scared for my own life and future, and I'm absolutely terrified for that of my son. We're facing the potential of an ungovernable state. It could make our country uninhabitable.
306 00:32:28.590 --> 00:32:30.350 Alastair boyd: Special than anyone else.
307 00:32:30.350 --> 00:32:48.170 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Oh my goodness. The physics don't care about the politics. You're being taken for a fool, my friend. There are plenty of solutions out there. Solutions that will make life better. The burning question is, what can we do to make them happen?
308 00:32:48.170 --> 00:32:48.840 Alastair boyd: Guests.
309 00:32:49.050 --> 00:32:49.600 Alastair boyd: Nomination.
310 00:32:49.600 --> 00:32:54.010 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: It's absolutely bonkers. I mean, it's ridiculous.
311 00:32:54.010 --> 00:32:55.200 Alastair boyd: adaptation.
312 00:32:55.700 --> 00:32:56.070 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Say.
313 00:32:56.070 --> 00:33:00.180 Alastair boyd: We hesitated, which is odd, considering my early incoming.
314 00:33:00.350 --> 00:33:04.320 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You can see, where are we?
315 00:33:04.630 --> 00:33:04.885 Alastair boyd: Jesus.
316 00:33:05.140 --> 00:33:15.190 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I think we can see where the, where the PG version came in. Thank you, Jennifer Saunders. I've just paused the screening for the moment.
317 00:33:15.380 --> 00:33:26.000 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: They… I was encouraged by that trailer, that they were going to talk about local action things to do, but, David and Sheila, that doesn't seem to come through in the full film.
318 00:33:28.110 --> 00:33:30.500 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So that's, that's interesting.
319 00:33:30.820 --> 00:33:33.380 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay, we're good.
320 00:33:33.380 --> 00:33:36.050 David Faulkner: Well, I'll just reiterate, if I can, D.
321 00:33:36.210 --> 00:33:40.619 David Faulkner: I think the aim of the film is to give you something to…
322 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:44.580 David Faulkner: Help with local action, but the main purpose of it is for
323 00:33:44.730 --> 00:33:51.740 David Faulkner: to make some serious change at the top. You're not going to get… we're never going to get to where we want to get to by taking lots of local action.
324 00:33:52.080 --> 00:33:55.359 David Faulkner: We have to take local action to support government action.
325 00:33:55.850 --> 00:33:59.340 David Faulkner: So his local action's a must, but it's not going to do it on its own.
326 00:34:00.700 --> 00:34:06.460 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yes, we need… it's a whole… we need every level to be engaged.
327 00:34:06.460 --> 00:34:06.940 David Faulkner: Alfinity.
328 00:34:06.940 --> 00:34:09.190 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That is how we can do things locally.
329 00:34:09.709 --> 00:34:10.479 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: particular.
330 00:34:11.300 --> 00:34:21.999 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: I think what I took from it was that they are asking the government to go into an emergency response, as they did in COVID.
331 00:34:23.020 --> 00:34:25.999 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: And… take things centrally.
332 00:34:27.340 --> 00:34:27.980 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right.
333 00:34:27.989 --> 00:34:32.049 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: So that people have to do things to a degree.
334 00:34:33.710 --> 00:34:39.960 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay. Well, it'll be fascinating to see what kind of responses we get from government in due course. Okay.
335 00:34:40.670 --> 00:34:57.450 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay, so that's where we are with that. Thank you for that. Here's a picture that I took this morning of where the current screenings are. As you can see, there's lots of them happening around the nation already. There's about 500 that have already been booked, apparently, but there's another 700 inquiries.
336 00:34:57.450 --> 00:35:05.479 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, over the period of the summer, I expect we're seeing these more and more. And certainly, if in our own areas, if there are people that are
337 00:35:05.750 --> 00:35:16.460 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You know, if we're not showing a screening ourselves, there may be other people in our parish, town, or area that's doing that, so we may need to be thinking about how we get involved and prepare for that in any case.
338 00:35:16.650 --> 00:35:17.940 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So there we are.
339 00:35:18.410 --> 00:35:27.549 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So the question then is, what about next steps? We understand about, involving our MP, we understand about getting our MP to,
340 00:35:27.550 --> 00:35:41.930 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: campaign within government, or at government, to make some response. There is a facilitation guide that, for screeners that the National Emergency Briefing Team, the AV team, have put out.
341 00:35:42.090 --> 00:35:49.219 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: They're talking about a next steps guide, which is going to be helpful about what people do after the screening. That hasn't yet been published.
342 00:35:49.240 --> 00:36:07.830 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You'll see something on the left there that the Climate Emergency Network, who have also been closely engaged with the National Emergency Briefing, team, have been putting out already in terms of getting together with, organize, having local assemblies, building resilient networks, and so forth, which is very much in line with their,
343 00:36:07.890 --> 00:36:17.970 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: ethos as Climate Emergency Centres. So that's already being promoted around that network, and they're looking to have more climate emergency networks around the country.
344 00:36:18.290 --> 00:36:38.290 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Certainly, in terms of people screening the film, some people will, as we've already heard, some people have already been engaged in climate action and nature recovery. Some will have never faced the issues before, or again, as somebody else has already said, being too busy with their own issues. Some people are really having to keep, spend a lot of time and effort keeping body and soul together with their families.
345 00:36:38.900 --> 00:36:51.879 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: If we're going to involve people in different groups and different organizations in our area, we have to think about that, you know, one message is not… the same message is not necessarily going to reach them all. We have to think about what messages that we can share with them, how we can reach them.
346 00:36:52.170 --> 00:37:07.270 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And audiences will need to be offered a pathway, somehow, to feel empowered to take action together. You know, rather, obviously, once you've written to your MP, that's one thing. What else can we do collectively? So that's the sort of thing about the next steps guy that I would like to see. I haven't seen it yet.
347 00:37:07.700 --> 00:37:15.310 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So my question was really for today, what extra support can we offer? And this is very much speaking with a great collaboration hat on.
348 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:20.529 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Certainly, for screeners, we would say, find out what a local action is already happening.
349 00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:33.910 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And because that's important to know, and invite those people along to, the screening. If there are local group leaders, we're talking about different nations, sorry, different interests, different groups.
350 00:37:33.910 --> 00:37:50.830 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: whether it's church groups, WI special interests, sports clubs, Rotary Club, you name it. If people are going to work together collectively, there needs to be local leadership, so people that are already leading local groups are probably well worth inviting along to a screening, as well as people already doing things.
351 00:37:51.050 --> 00:37:58.520 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The one thing advice that has come out of the National Emergency Briefing Team is, yes, collect some names, have a follow-up meeting.
352 00:37:58.870 --> 00:38:14.220 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: As to what people might be doing next. So that's the one bit of guidance which is already available from the NEB team, so that seems to be very sensible, not just treat it as a one-off, let's have some other things that follow on. They have produced a facilitation guide for a process on the day.
353 00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:31.109 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: If we're going to get people to come to a future meeting and get engaged, you can have our hands in the air, you can have people signing up, there's different ways you can be doing it, maybe a WhatsApp group or whatever, but collect details of people at these screenings so that we've got a group of people to go forward.
354 00:38:31.110 --> 00:38:45.829 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And then those people that have organized the screening, those people need to… are engaged in future action, need to prepare follow-up and subsequent meetings. So that's the sort of advice that we might give, which I'm prepared to give already to, putting out to people who are screening.
355 00:38:45.910 --> 00:38:57.329 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I'll be sending this out around the Parish and Town Council network shortly. I did really want to see the NEB team's own Next Steps Guide before I did that, but it's not been available just yet.
356 00:38:57.630 --> 00:39:00.880 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So my question is, is it enough?
357 00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:03.720 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: To just offer pathways to action.
358 00:39:04.520 --> 00:39:10.619 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: This is something that very much that Great Collaboration has been doing, certainly very much that Carbon Copy has been engaged in.
359 00:39:11.590 --> 00:39:18.200 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: is that enough at this stage? Do we need to be… more…
360 00:39:19.070 --> 00:39:25.620 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Do we need to speak differently, rather than just saying to people, there are things that you could be doing, and it's working well in other places?
361 00:39:26.010 --> 00:39:30.659 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So that's… that's a bit of a question to me, because I don't know,
362 00:39:31.600 --> 00:39:41.579 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: about yourselves, but being told to do something doesn't always sit well with me. But how do we do these things, get more people engaged? We have produced our own 10-minute film.
363 00:39:43.560 --> 00:39:56.060 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: keep that thought for a minute, David, because we'll stop and have a chat shortly. We have produced our own 10-minute film as to what people might be doing subsequent to the meeting, and I can show you that a bit later.
364 00:39:56.130 --> 00:40:04.930 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But what we're saying to people is, you know, look around your area, connect with local people, of course, local evidence of what might be done, local opportunities, local ideas.
365 00:40:05.090 --> 00:40:20.669 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Say that you're going to be doing something. It doesn't necessarily mean declaring an emergency, but certainly from a town or parish council's point of view, say that there is something happening that you're doing, because that's important for people to know and possibly join in with. Say, start with something simple at the local level.
366 00:40:21.460 --> 00:40:37.360 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: planning applications are coming forward with all kinds of issues that may or may not have taken account of the environment, and we all, as far and parish councillors, have to respond to those applications, so to be thoughtful about what they're saying, not just about biodiversity, but about other issues as well.
367 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:42.199 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Work with other people, and certainly share good practice with others as we're developing things locally.
368 00:40:42.330 --> 00:40:45.030 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So that's the sort of summary steps that we ought to be seeing.
369 00:40:46.030 --> 00:40:48.130 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But what else?
370 00:40:49.420 --> 00:40:55.509 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Communication's important, yeah. Keep calm and work differently is the best idea I've come up with so far.
371 00:40:55.860 --> 00:40:58.380 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But… but what are the messages? Because…
372 00:40:58.620 --> 00:41:01.660 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You know, we… the same message won't reach everybody.
373 00:41:01.820 --> 00:41:16.179 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We can offer practical support to Community Climate Action, provide climate action workshops. Climate Psychology Alliance are doing some workshops on how to help with people who have come to these screenings, from different backgrounds and different concerns.
374 00:41:16.180 --> 00:41:27.920 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: and be thoughtful about the people element of people turning up, and what to do, be alert to that. So that's an interesting contribution. They also do a sort of a train-the-trainer program.
375 00:41:28.220 --> 00:41:37.220 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: If we're going to offer practical support, you know, 500 filming screenings already, if people are going to take up the offer of…
376 00:41:37.450 --> 00:41:50.090 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: our offer of support, then we're prepared to meet the demand. But what else, you know, we've given a quick gallop through what we might be doing, we've had a talk about it. I'm going to stop, sharing again, and see what else might
377 00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:58.799 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: be done to support people who have seen the film. David, you had your hand up a second ago. What was it you wanted to share?
378 00:41:59.730 --> 00:42:06.560 David Faulkner: It was only because I think at the time you had a slide up, and we were talking about the carrot or the stick.
379 00:42:06.560 --> 00:42:07.200 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yep.
380 00:42:07.200 --> 00:42:12.649 David Faulkner: And it was just a reflection of something that was in the film, there were…
381 00:42:13.350 --> 00:42:17.319 David Faulkner: The last couple of presentations were to do with the,
382 00:42:17.630 --> 00:42:26.849 David Faulkner: you know, the economy and the energy transition progress and such like, and they were… they were quite pos… they came at… they ended on quite a positive note, that
383 00:42:27.080 --> 00:42:29.899 David Faulkner: You know, how cheap renewable energy is.
384 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:37.620 David Faulkner: Compared to fossil fuels, and how cheap it is compared to having oil price shocks that we're currently going through.
385 00:42:38.860 --> 00:42:45.140 David Faulkner: But they did go… and then they said how fast the advancement was going. They seemed to be making a case that
386 00:42:45.540 --> 00:42:50.669 David Faulkner: you know, wind and solar and EV take-up was faster than expected.
387 00:42:51.330 --> 00:43:02.149 David Faulkner: But they made… there was a comment, and it… it wasn't driven home, but it did say we could accelerate this further by mandating some of this stuff, so that's presumably to do with…
388 00:43:02.690 --> 00:43:07.640 David Faulkner: Potentially planning, building regulations, for instance.
389 00:43:08.180 --> 00:43:13.490 David Faulkner: maybe bringing back the EV Target, But…
390 00:43:13.600 --> 00:43:22.349 David Faulkner: I think disappeared, then, you know, to bring it on… it's already happening faster than they thought, so just make it happen even faster, I think.
391 00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:27.489 David Faulkner: It wasn't very specific, though. I don't know if Sheila can remember anything more about that particular point.
392 00:43:29.620 --> 00:43:30.460 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Hila?
393 00:43:31.910 --> 00:43:34.319 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: I think what you've said is…
394 00:43:34.490 --> 00:43:45.450 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: absolutely accurate, and I don't think it was specified, but I felt the film did end on a positive note, that there are things that can be done.
395 00:43:45.750 --> 00:43:48.630 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: So, we just need to do more lobbying.
396 00:43:48.940 --> 00:43:54.190 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: We need a lobbying group that is, as, as,
397 00:43:54.490 --> 00:43:58.799 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Impressive as the oil lobbying group, because we need to counter them.
398 00:44:00.980 --> 00:44:01.630 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right.
399 00:44:01.630 --> 00:44:04.040 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Although they are rich and we are not.
400 00:44:04.640 --> 00:44:07.040 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Maybe to be honest. I know.
401 00:44:07.040 --> 00:44:08.830 David Faulkner: We're even richer now.
402 00:44:09.050 --> 00:44:10.160 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Yeah.
403 00:44:10.160 --> 00:44:12.979 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: This is trouble, yeah. They are richer.
404 00:44:13.240 --> 00:44:13.850 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah.
405 00:44:14.310 --> 00:44:15.730 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Graham, you've got your hand up, mate.
406 00:44:15.980 --> 00:44:29.129 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): I had several points following your presentation and what David's been saying, and I'm going to ask Kirsten Rayner to cover her ears, because she's going to go pink with embarrassment. But,
407 00:44:29.720 --> 00:44:39.630 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): We've seen in various banter sessions that volunteering is far more powerful than getting people to come along and do what they're told to do.
408 00:44:39.680 --> 00:44:40.960 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): And,
409 00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:59.679 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): I think that if you've got enough people interested at the screening, then to follow up with something along the lines of a community climate action plan, where you get the community together, they've seen the film, so now what do they want to do about it? And they determine what is to be done,
410 00:44:59.680 --> 00:45:14.430 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): And that's much more likely to get volunteers who will actually participate, rather than saying, we need to have this, we need to have that, and who's going to do it? I don't think that's the right way. So just a volunteer show, I suggest, is a useful follow-up.
411 00:45:14.560 --> 00:45:30.660 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): And to produce a plan of action by people volunteering ideas, and then taking their ideas and saying, okay, let's go with this one or that one. Your idea of going with something simple but positive first. And then the…
412 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:39.429 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): David was suggesting that community energy with solar and so forth was a great idea. And the…
413 00:45:40.150 --> 00:45:57.689 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Gambling Gay Parish is the one that we hold up as a master of what you should be doing in your climate action and environmental action, and they put in a wind turbine back in 2013, and since then, it's been contributing 10% of all of its
414 00:45:57.690 --> 00:46:09.339 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): profits to the local community for environmental grants, so that the community is supporting itself through its community energy plan, which I think is sheer genius.
415 00:46:09.340 --> 00:46:24.379 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): And it's probably why Gambling Gay is so far ahead in achieving their goals. Because there's always… people always need money, whether it's 50 pounds to pay for printing posters, or £500 to raise a whatever.
416 00:46:24.380 --> 00:46:32.690 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): But if you've got the money being generated by your own community energy plant, then I think that makes a colossal difference.
417 00:46:32.850 --> 00:46:38.629 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): And just so people know that we're working with, people on
418 00:46:39.170 --> 00:46:54.950 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): how do you manage to find local users for your community energy? So, just popping back into the grid is not a brilliant idea, because in many cases, the grid isn't ready for you yet. So, if you can come up with ways of getting
419 00:46:54.950 --> 00:47:02.110 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Directly local people to take the energy that you're generating from your rooftop solar, or whatever.
420 00:47:02.110 --> 00:47:10.680 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Then that is very positive, because people see their costs being reduced, and money really does make a big difference to people, particularly in these days.
421 00:47:11.020 --> 00:47:21.290 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): And just as one example of how efficient these systems are getting now, we have got 136 houses
422 00:47:21.420 --> 00:47:36.319 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): threatening with being developed locally, and they're each coming with proper insulation, they're each going to have solar, cells on their roofs, and they each are going to have a heat pump. So the,
423 00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:51.530 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Consensus is without doubt that this development will be generating far more electricity that they themselves need, and that therefore we need to put into place plans for sending the electricity that they're generating
424 00:47:51.530 --> 00:47:58.079 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): To the next-door neighborhood development that didn't have those ideas and hasn't got.
425 00:47:59.430 --> 00:48:17.210 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): those facilities, so that if you reduce their energy costs, then hopefully you can persuade people to retrofit their insulation, to get their costs down further, and generally you're spreading good all over the place, just by virtue of having produced your own energy. So that idea, David, I thought was a great one.
426 00:48:17.210 --> 00:48:22.790 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): And I'm going to shut up, because Kristin's got to come and deny everything I've said.
427 00:48:22.790 --> 00:48:40.719 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I don't know about that. There is a cross-party, in terms of lobbying, a cross-party parliamentary group, campaign has been for some time to make it that it's easier for people to generate electricity and sell it locally, which at the moment, it's quite complicated. But, Kirsten, what did you want to add into what Graeme said?
428 00:48:41.870 --> 00:48:46.659 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: Yeah, sorry, I've got problems with my camera at the moment. Can you still hear me okay?
429 00:48:46.660 --> 00:48:48.390 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, I thought you were just hiding your blushes.
430 00:48:48.390 --> 00:48:58.470 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: No, no, that's lovely. Thanks very much for the kind words, Graham. At the moment, the power does go back to the national grid.
431 00:48:58.470 --> 00:49:12.919 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: So we haven't actually… we're not using our own power, but the profits basically come back to the community. The greatest thing that's achieved in the last, 10 years recently is, obviously, it's funded, solar panels
432 00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:19.129 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: on another community building within the village. So we now have battery storage and solar panels on a small
433 00:49:19.130 --> 00:49:28.389 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: community building, which is used as a preschool, and I've just been looking today at the wonderful sun that is happening, and the energy's been created and going back to the grid.
434 00:49:28.390 --> 00:49:45.970 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: Which is obviously making that building more sustainable. So, that's a real positive story. I just wanted to mention something else that just popped into my mind as these things do. Obviously, in the areas in the country where we've got local government reorganization, there's going to be whole new councils being created in the next.
435 00:49:45.990 --> 00:49:55.039 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: 6 to 18 months, and it may be a good idea to try and come up with some kind of, manifesto
436 00:49:55.080 --> 00:50:09.489 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: As a result of the national emergency briefing, that we want these new councillors to be able to uphold and use, potentially, in our local areas to support our local community. So, that might be something that could come out of this
437 00:50:09.560 --> 00:50:22.080 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: process, to actually, come up with something that we would like from a local area, that can be used, obviously, nationally, from our new councillors, so it was just an idea.
438 00:50:23.040 --> 00:50:27.520 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And I think the turbine's currently generating about £10,000 a year.
439 00:50:27.630 --> 00:50:29.299 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: For local projects, which is.
440 00:50:29.300 --> 00:50:43.649 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: Yeah, that's it, yeah, and lots go into, we've had a pocket park, about 5,000 trees go in, we've had lots of hedge planting, and lots of, environmental projects as a result. So, yeah, it's been fantastic.
441 00:50:43.650 --> 00:50:49.130 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Great. I've got three hands in the air. If we go Alistair, then Rick, then Piers. Alastair, would you like to go first?
442 00:50:49.310 --> 00:50:58.539 Alastair boyd: Isn't the way of grabbing people's attention the risk of damage to their Health, wealth, and family security
443 00:50:58.740 --> 00:51:01.480 Alastair boyd: Likely to get their attention rather than anything else?
444 00:51:01.650 --> 00:51:02.490 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Hmm.
445 00:51:02.490 --> 00:51:03.979 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right, okay.
446 00:51:05.490 --> 00:51:18.930 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That's right. I think this is getting into the detail of how we reach people and how we engage them, post the film, because the film perhaps doesn't say those things quite clearly, but as you say, that's going to sit well with some people.
447 00:51:18.930 --> 00:51:19.839 David Faulkner: that very clearly.
448 00:51:20.200 --> 00:51:22.890 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The well-being of their families, indeed, yeah.
449 00:51:23.340 --> 00:51:26.889 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay, thanks, Alyssa, and that's… I made that note. Rick?
450 00:51:27.420 --> 00:51:30.769 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): Yeah, different points, which is,
451 00:51:31.130 --> 00:51:44.609 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): us wanting to offer up another resource, I think the knowledge base is a useful place for people to go, and I know you're building that out. Yep. One of the things that we have done very recently is
452 00:51:44.830 --> 00:52:02.509 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): we've done a big piece of research on an action guide that helps, people that want to work collectively together, to… it's the how they can do so other than the what. So, to your point around the next steps are going to come out of discussions that people have locally.
453 00:52:02.820 --> 00:52:20.460 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): And then they'll decide… and then those people that are ready to act will want to do so. Hopefully that'll be, involving people from different groups, you know, local councils, as well as maybe some companies, as well as some community groups. But how do you get, those groups to work effectively together?
454 00:52:20.700 --> 00:52:25.919 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): And this is an action guide, to help those people that are ready to take that next step.
455 00:52:26.200 --> 00:52:39.520 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): So, would love for that to just be added to the knowledge base for those people that want to then do something, above and beyond the political pressure applied to your local MP.
456 00:52:39.870 --> 00:52:42.149 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Can you drop the link in, Rick?
457 00:52:42.370 --> 00:52:44.910 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): Yeah, I'll put it in the chat, yeah.
458 00:52:44.910 --> 00:52:46.929 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Does the change print,
459 00:52:46.930 --> 00:52:52.969 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): It is, it's something that I shared in a banter session recently, but I'll put it in the link in the chat now.
460 00:52:53.240 --> 00:52:54.030 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: So…
461 00:52:54.240 --> 00:53:06.979 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Thank you very much, because that's… that's… those places that aren't already connected, and heaven knows government isn't joined up, very, very, very, very necessary. Thanks for that, Piers. Sorry, Piers, next.
462 00:53:07.610 --> 00:53:12.570 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Thanks, everyone. It's been really interesting listening to some of your points.
463 00:53:12.780 --> 00:53:18.829 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: I guess just, having… living in a parish that has a wind turbine that had,
464 00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:29.650 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: community funds, I can, yeah, agree with… strongly with what, what, benefits that can bring to the community and be a sort of a…
465 00:53:32.590 --> 00:53:43.360 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: light a match for other kind of important community action. The important thing is that it is community-owned, and unfortunately, the turbine in
466 00:53:43.740 --> 00:53:46.939 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Our village was sold on.
467 00:53:47.060 --> 00:53:56.549 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: And so the community benefit doesn't actually, exist anymore. But, I was just also thinking about
468 00:53:56.700 --> 00:54:13.900 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: that leverage into how to get people involved in quite a lot of stuff, that when I used to work for the District Council, kind of, we do it for us to do in climate action is to talk about the shared benefits of climate action, so to frame it in what's relevant to people. It's obviously cost of living.
469 00:54:14.210 --> 00:54:17.139 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Is a massive issue at the moment.
470 00:54:17.750 --> 00:54:28.479 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: And I think, kind of, in those next steps, that's a really important way to pull in people beyond the usual suspects.
471 00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:34.140 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: But what I was interested to ask those of you on the call was,
472 00:54:36.170 --> 00:54:44.270 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: we're thinking about putting on a screening, but I've talked to other people in the area who are also kind of interested, and it struck me that
473 00:54:44.570 --> 00:54:52.160 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Actually trying to put a… we'll put screenings on that are…
474 00:54:52.390 --> 00:54:57.029 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Not being put on by any one organization or person.
475 00:54:57.140 --> 00:55:14.749 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: But as a sort of a group of organisations, it seemed quite a sensible way to kind of approach it. So, it's a kind of… yeah, it's not coming from any one person who might be… or group that might be conceived to have a particular axe to grind, or…
476 00:55:16.900 --> 00:55:17.540 Alastair boyd: What? Nothing.
477 00:55:17.540 --> 00:55:24.210 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: That hopefully would widen, kind of, the number of people that, kind of, come along to your showing.
478 00:55:24.940 --> 00:55:25.520 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yep.
479 00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:32.979 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That sounds good. Does that sound good, everybody? That's not something that the NEV team themselves have majored on, but it's something we can certainly put out there.
480 00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:33.940 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Hmm.
481 00:55:33.940 --> 00:55:37.489 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Because then that's getting groups in… many different groups involved.
482 00:55:37.490 --> 00:55:38.100 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Okay.
483 00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:39.509 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: How about that?
484 00:55:40.500 --> 00:55:41.540 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Yep.
485 00:55:41.540 --> 00:55:44.579 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That idea, I think that sounds good. Sean, you've got your hand up, and then…
486 00:55:44.580 --> 00:56:01.859 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yeah, and it actually follows from what Piers was saying, in that, I think the first thing you've got to do, which actually came up in that poster, was to identify the various stakeholders, not specifically for this topic, but identify all stakeholders, whether they're…
487 00:56:01.860 --> 00:56:09.980 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): church groups, or whether they're, you know, whether they're looking at energy or whatever.
488 00:56:10.050 --> 00:56:17.719 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): We're kind of fortunate in Wendover in that we've got HS2, digging up our, our village.
489 00:56:17.890 --> 00:56:36.439 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And that's acted as an external threat for a whole range of different organizations, from the cricket club to the farmers to the… and that's gelled everyone to work together. I'm not suggesting that you encourage another HS2, but if you can identify something
490 00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:44.800 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): That is external to your core aim, which might be growing food or whatever it is, and then getting
491 00:56:45.010 --> 00:56:54.019 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): The various groups that you've identified in your stakeholder mapping, and then finding common ground with them.
492 00:56:54.020 --> 00:57:06.100 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Whether it's, you know, one extreme it's the schools, or it's the cricket clubs, or it's, as I said, the farmers. Couple of other points, if I may, just briefly.
493 00:57:06.770 --> 00:57:11.230 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And extending that, I had a meeting in Aylesbury.
494 00:57:11.460 --> 00:57:26.730 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): town, one of the fastest growing towns in the country, the other day. They're, you know, 7 miles away from us. And they said, we know that you in Wendover and in Tame and all the other villages around them are doing their own thing. We're all kind of part of the Chiltons.
495 00:57:26.730 --> 00:57:33.520 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): So there's a hierarchy, there's a layer. You've got Bucks Council, you've got Chilterns, you've got Parish Councils.
496 00:57:33.590 --> 00:57:49.190 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And they said, we, as the town, hardly ever get involved or invited to these things. Yet we've got 70,000 people here, and we've got lots of people that would like to volunteer, but there's nothing for them to volunteer for here.
497 00:57:49.190 --> 00:57:58.890 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): So my point is, we're a small village, others on the call tend, you know, tend to be small villages. Have a look at your local
498 00:57:58.890 --> 00:58:06.820 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): town, and see how you can get them involved, because they've got actually huge resources, or may have huge resources of,
499 00:58:06.820 --> 00:58:20.260 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): people and buildings and separate funding as well. Just… I've made a bit of a list, and I'll put them in the thing. We also showed, 6 inches of soil, which is about,
500 00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:22.690 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Regenerative farming.
501 00:58:23.240 --> 00:58:23.730 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right.
502 00:58:23.730 --> 00:58:25.199 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And there's a massive overlap.
503 00:58:25.250 --> 00:58:41.630 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): between that and resilience. So you've got another group coming together, and this is about showing… making people used to seeing these films. So, Six Inches of Farming, this particular one, you know, there'll be another one coming along later about something else, I don't know what it is.
504 00:58:41.630 --> 00:58:45.799 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): But… but making it almost a campaign of…
505 00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:55.389 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): informative films, will… will be important. And to that extent, I think showing the film once.
506 00:58:55.610 --> 00:59:11.049 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): won't make much difference. I think you've got to keep repeating the message, because there will be people that weren't there that wanted to see it, and people forget things. And, you know, in sort of the advertising world, you've got to repeat it seven times.
507 00:59:11.050 --> 00:59:20.940 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): I'm not suggesting showing the film 7 times, but maybe… maybe in seven different venues close. We got people coming in from Amersham, which is…
508 00:59:20.950 --> 00:59:29.559 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): 10 miles away, to come and see 6 inches of soil in… in the village hall here. But…
509 00:59:29.940 --> 00:59:38.139 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yeah, I think, I think banging on about the, banging on about the message continuously, don't be afraid.
510 00:59:38.740 --> 00:59:44.050 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): not to keep repeating it. I think that's it. I'll shut up now.
511 00:59:44.050 --> 00:59:53.729 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: No, that's handy. I'm delighted, by the way, people, that all the ideas that are coming forward is exactly what I was hoping for from this session. Alistair.
512 00:59:54.200 --> 01:00:04.030 Alastair boyd: Is there anybody that's the possibility or consequence of war? We seem to be threatened by Russia through support of Ukraine.
513 01:00:04.270 --> 01:00:09.500 Alastair boyd: So we're being threatened by Iran, by support of the Arab countries.
514 01:00:09.700 --> 01:00:25.120 Alastair boyd: I don't know if this film or you've got something in mind to cover that, but I think it's something which should be thought about, even… I know it sounds terribly antiquated about civil defense, but at the moment something happened, I just wonder if anybody's actually put their heads together as to what they advise people to do.
515 01:00:25.900 --> 01:00:29.159 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That's a good point. David, do you have your finger up, perhaps, in response to that?
516 01:00:29.160 --> 01:00:34.090 David Faulkner: I'd just say that there was one of the, one of the talks was…
517 01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:37.779 David Faulkner: Under the heading of National Security.
518 01:00:38.230 --> 01:00:46.580 David Faulkner: Delivered by a Lieutenant General and it was one of the most… hard-hitting.
519 01:00:47.570 --> 01:00:49.500 David Faulkner: Parts of the whole thing, really.
520 01:00:49.670 --> 01:00:53.909 David Faulkner: it really… it's not one I'd seen before, because I've seen a lot of the
521 01:00:54.290 --> 01:01:00.320 David Faulkner: Climate change, the weather, and the food security things, but the impact on national security
522 01:01:00.950 --> 01:01:08.340 David Faulkner: This guy was just straight down. This is absolute emergency. National security is…
523 01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:11.230 David Faulkner: A problem, on the basis that…
524 01:01:11.770 --> 01:01:14.369 David Faulkner: As soon as you get a problem with the food system.
525 01:01:14.850 --> 01:01:25.450 David Faulkner: we all revert to type, and we'll go and steal it from everybody else, and just like what happened to the loo paper in COVID. You know, as soon as there's a shortage of something.
526 01:01:27.020 --> 01:01:33.409 David Faulkner: there'll be… insurrection on the streets. And, you know, he was absolutely… he…
527 01:01:33.750 --> 01:01:38.759 David Faulkner: Right down the line, we've got a plan for this, you know, the forces need to be prepared.
528 01:01:39.200 --> 01:01:45.229 David Faulkner: Because it's a poss… it's a distinct possibility, unless we… do something.
529 01:01:46.090 --> 01:01:51.890 David Faulkner: So it was covered quite… it was quite hard-hitting, that… that bit, Alistair, in the film.
530 01:01:51.890 --> 01:01:52.900 Alastair boyd: Only so.
531 01:01:53.510 --> 01:01:54.040 David Faulkner: Bye.
532 01:01:54.040 --> 01:01:56.490 Alastair boyd: Where do you see… Boom. Sorry?
533 01:01:56.680 --> 01:01:58.419 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The same film, was it, David?
534 01:01:58.420 --> 01:01:59.699 David Faulkner: The film we just… the film would be.
535 01:01:59.700 --> 01:02:00.090 Alastair boyd: Twice it.
536 01:02:00.090 --> 01:02:02.100 David Faulkner: Yeah, the briefing film.
537 01:02:02.100 --> 01:02:02.700 Alastair boyd: Okay.
538 01:02:02.700 --> 01:02:03.430 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah. Thank you.
539 01:02:03.430 --> 01:02:09.260 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): just on that, all of the, all of the speeches, if you like, are on YouTube.
540 01:02:09.260 --> 01:02:10.259 David Faulkner: Come see them all, yeah.
541 01:02:10.560 --> 01:02:11.589 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): The original speech.
542 01:02:11.590 --> 01:02:12.370 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yep, yeah.
543 01:02:12.370 --> 01:02:20.560 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): I've just noticed that, GB News has a 3-hour thing on it. I don't know whether they've commented on it or not, but,
544 01:02:20.910 --> 01:02:40.100 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): One thing, sorry about stakeholders. We've got RAF Halton next to us here, so if you've got a local MOD place near you, it is worth having a chat to them about what their contingencies are, and that's, we're on regular discussions with, MOD here.
545 01:02:40.100 --> 01:02:49.860 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): slightly different place, they don't fly from there, it's more of a training center, so they're quite used to engaging with civilians in our neck of the woods, but there might be other…
546 01:02:50.120 --> 01:02:52.890 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): other, MOD as stakeholders.
547 01:02:54.200 --> 01:03:01.220 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I mean, I'd like to think, yes, in terms of civil defense, that's been crossing my mind a bit lately. How do we get people together on these occasions?
548 01:03:01.220 --> 01:03:24.059 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: civil defense as a structure disappeared a long time ago. We haven't had any guidance lately about what happens in terms of nuclear attack, have we? I think the last time I remember seeing anything about that was, I think it was during the Cold War, I'm that old, and it was saying, you know, you hear that there's nuclear missiles saying, paint the insides of your windows with rancid milk, and I'm thinking.
549 01:03:24.110 --> 01:03:41.680 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Well, that's an interesting one. Just the bit that struck me as odd at the time, and perhaps not very useful. Other people have said, you know, get yourself into a safe place and take some water with you, and so on, but that sort of advice, Alistair, hasn't been shared much lately at all for all kinds of reasons.
550 01:03:42.200 --> 01:03:55.300 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Wow, yeah, I think, that my big thing is food security, and, there was, actually a big farming plan produced by a chap called Henry Dimbleby during the
551 01:03:55.420 --> 01:04:09.460 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Boris Johnson Premiership, which went into quite a lot of detail about how we might look at these issues, particularly around farming, more effectively. As far as I'm aware, it's never been taken up and intended to be implemented.
552 01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:20.909 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I know there are farmers, action for wildlife groups around the place. I don't know, have no connection with the National Farmers Union, as to what farmers in the mass are thinking about all of this, and whether they are
553 01:04:21.170 --> 01:04:32.080 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: responding to certain people saying, oh, we should have more of a plant-based diet, you know, okay? But I think the issue about food is that we need food of different kinds, you know.
554 01:04:32.210 --> 01:04:35.839 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: In a hurry. I remember reading once that,
555 01:04:36.150 --> 01:04:47.630 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Winston Churchill apparently said the thing that really bothered him during the Second World War was the North Atlantic, about the supplies of food across the Atlantic. That was a bit the thing that really kept him more awake at night.
556 01:04:47.870 --> 01:04:54.230 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We've been importing our food for a long time. We needed to import food in the First War, let alone the Second War.
557 01:04:55.060 --> 01:04:55.890 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So then we… Sorry.
558 01:04:55.890 --> 01:05:12.759 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): I forgot to put my hand up, but I've dropped something in the chat, which is the report that's just come out from Tim Lang, Professor Tim Lang, about… it's called Just In Case, Seven Steps to Narrow the UK's Civil Food Resilience Gap.
559 01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:23.319 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): It's taking… the government does it at the large supply-side level, and it's saying, but we've missed what happens locally.
560 01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:34.060 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And what happens individually, and what you can do about it. So that… there's the executive summary, but the actual report's 300 pages long. You might not have enough time to.
561 01:05:34.060 --> 01:05:36.970 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I'm scared there is such a thing, yeah.
562 01:05:36.970 --> 01:05:40.410 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Drop us the link, Sean, I'll have a bad time reading.
563 01:05:40.410 --> 01:05:45.109 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): It is… it is in there, probably about the third link down, I think, hang on.
564 01:05:45.110 --> 01:05:46.309 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Put it in the chat, Alan.
565 01:05:46.310 --> 01:05:47.390 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): In the chat.
566 01:05:47.390 --> 01:05:49.779 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: My apologies, I've missed over that then.
567 01:05:51.750 --> 01:05:53.720 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Unless I didn't do it properly.
568 01:05:54.560 --> 01:05:55.170 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): I understood.
569 01:05:55.460 --> 01:05:56.860 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You wanted to say some more?
570 01:05:56.860 --> 01:06:03.530 Alastair boyd: I am a farmer. Oh, good. I think you should be very, very worried about your food security.
571 01:06:03.830 --> 01:06:10.749 Alastair boyd: The weather last year in the summertime, not only was it short of, forage for the winter.
572 01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:14.440 Alastair boyd: Did it affect the conception of the cattle, the hot weather?
573 01:06:14.590 --> 01:06:23.349 Alastair boyd: And, it's not only that, it's the economic and the government actions against us, it's a bit scary what's going on. A lot of people are getting very disheartened.
574 01:06:23.740 --> 01:06:30.449 Alastair boyd: And, my son, he actually… he's 49, and I hope he's gonna… he's taken the place over for me as far as he can.
575 01:06:30.640 --> 01:06:35.570 Alastair boyd: And, he put his head and hands about a month ago and said he has no way he's bothering.
576 01:06:36.120 --> 01:06:42.880 Alastair boyd: Because he could, until they changed the tax laws, we were going to be landing out with a horrendous thing and having to sell the farm.
577 01:06:43.060 --> 01:06:45.410 Alastair boyd: If I died within 7 years, so…
578 01:06:45.730 --> 01:06:50.040 Alastair boyd: It's, the whole thing is a bit hairy in agriculture, and the food
579 01:06:50.150 --> 01:06:57.440 Alastair boyd: You're relying on food coming from other countries. We were great for importing from Africa. Now China's got that tied up.
580 01:06:57.830 --> 01:07:06.310 Alastair boyd: And we're now buying in, lamb from New Zealand, which has had to travel halfway across the world, and the cost of that, and the pollution.
581 01:07:06.580 --> 01:07:22.579 Alastair boyd: They just, think you all on… just… you just can't go to a supermarket now and look behind the shelves. You'll see the front row of all the goods, and then behind there's empty spaces. It's just in time, I think. You should be very, very worried about what's gonna happen. Unless you're good with a can opener.
582 01:07:23.270 --> 01:07:40.879 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right, indeed. I'm sure that concern. Thank you very much for the farming perspective, Alastair, because I don't have close links for the farming community, but it's great to have you on the call to think about that. In my parish, where I live in the Forest of Dean, there's a patch of land that,
583 01:07:42.160 --> 01:07:53.650 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: is owned by the parish council that they're not doing anything with. And, you know, it'll be a drop in the ocean, perhaps, but maybe we could be growing some vegetables and stuff on that, at least for the less well-off in the community.
584 01:07:53.650 --> 01:08:06.929 Alastair boyd: There's a lot of council houses in the village. They've got huge gardens, they're built in the 50s and 60s, and the whole idea was the chap had a family, grew it on the back of his garden, and grew most of the stuff for himself.
585 01:08:07.170 --> 01:08:09.860 Alastair boyd: And now that it's just lawn. It's such a waste.
586 01:08:10.220 --> 01:08:10.950 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right.
587 01:08:11.050 --> 01:08:30.679 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): there's quite a strong move, well, around here in supporting and encouraging allotment and homegrowing and stuff. I mean, it's not going to solve the resilience. I mean, we will always need the farms to do the heavy lifting, but to do the sort of feeding in some of the high-value things.
588 01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:32.850 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): I mean, like, bringing in
589 01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:52.889 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): blueberries from Chile is ridiculous, you know, when they can be grown locally here. But we've got wild belts, in the region here, where we've got, you know, things being grown on that, and then that has honey, you know, bee things on it, and what have you. But,
590 01:08:54.300 --> 01:09:00.580 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): What was I gonna say? Anyway, right, sorry, yeah, but yeah, food resilience has to be number one, I think.
591 01:09:00.580 --> 01:09:06.550 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You know, I sometimes refer to myself as Mr. Allotments, because that's one of the few statutory duties that parish councils have got.
592 01:09:06.590 --> 01:09:15.599 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And so, to encourage them looking at that. Another example of how we need to work at different levels, isn't it? More immediate local level.
593 01:09:15.630 --> 01:09:32.679 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Certainly with the farmers, supporting them in many and various ways, and certainly it'd be nice to see if government can pay attention as well. And supermarkets aren't going to save us, are they? Not really. We'll be thinking about other ways of doing that.
594 01:09:32.970 --> 01:09:34.100 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yep, yep.
595 01:09:34.100 --> 01:09:34.920 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Wow.
596 01:09:35.029 --> 01:09:41.880 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I've been making notes as well as we've been recording this session. I think we've had some great stuff today, very, very timely.
597 01:09:44.090 --> 01:09:56.600 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: If you like, I can show you the 10-minute film we've created to go out on the back of the NEB film. I'm sure I can show you that. Has anybody else got any points they want to make straight away before I put that on screen?
598 01:09:58.530 --> 01:10:02.700 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): My only quick question was, are you all linked into the Community Climate Action?
599 01:10:02.810 --> 01:10:03.640 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): group.
600 01:10:03.810 --> 01:10:06.119 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yes, yes, indeed. Yeah, Jules Thompson. Oh, God, yes.
601 01:10:06.120 --> 01:10:07.280 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Shield, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah.
602 01:10:07.280 --> 01:10:18.950 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Oh, yes! Very much so. John's been keen to express his, his Climate Action Workshop, capacity across the nation, so we'll see, see how we can get on with it.
603 01:10:18.950 --> 01:10:23.420 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): I thought I recognized him in your, picture there, I'm not sure, but…
604 01:10:23.420 --> 01:10:33.230 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay, let's see if I can get this, film up. And this is a 10-minute film. We did it… we had our own discussion about it, and we,
605 01:10:33.620 --> 01:10:34.440 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Come on.
606 01:10:34.580 --> 01:10:35.600 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: They're white.
607 01:10:37.020 --> 01:10:43.079 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: What's happening here? Get rid of that, get rid of that, get rid of that. That's what we wanted.
608 01:10:47.660 --> 01:10:48.600 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Oh, nice.
609 01:10:51.270 --> 01:10:52.210 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Honestly.
610 01:10:52.510 --> 01:10:56.520 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I had this all set up, and then it turned… you press a button, and it all disappeared.
611 01:10:56.780 --> 01:10:58.150 Alastair boyd: Okay.
612 01:10:59.220 --> 01:10:59.960 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Just a minute.
613 01:10:59.960 --> 01:11:00.700 Alastair boyd: Yay.
614 01:11:02.380 --> 01:11:02.970 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Come on.
615 01:11:04.810 --> 01:11:05.680 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Let me see.
616 01:11:07.090 --> 01:11:09.869 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Things work when you want it to, don't they?
617 01:11:10.660 --> 01:11:13.129 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: It's a reasonable-sized file, Andrew.
618 01:11:13.360 --> 01:11:20.010 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, no, let me stop… let me stop this for a minute, because I had it all lined up, and it disappeared. Right, I've got it already done.
619 01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:25.389 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right, okay, here we go.
620 01:11:25.970 --> 01:11:28.800 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Let's try again, shall we? Now then.
621 01:11:32.360 --> 01:11:33.560 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: There we go.
622 01:11:45.900 --> 01:11:56.969 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Hello, my name is Andrew Malifant from the Great Collaboration. We are a gathering of parish clerks, councillors, and local volunteers working around the country on environmental action and nature recovery.
623 01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:00.310 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Many of you will see, or have already seen.
624 01:12:00.590 --> 01:12:07.910 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: 45-minute film from the producers of the November's National Emergency Briefing about the crises the country is currently facing.
625 01:12:08.250 --> 01:12:13.610 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Today, we're looking at what practical steps might be taken locally in response to that briefing.
626 01:12:13.890 --> 01:12:19.590 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: This will, of course, mean working together with others in our community, and we'll be talking about that soon.
627 01:12:19.790 --> 01:12:22.709 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: A lot of action needs to happen locally in any case.
628 01:12:22.840 --> 01:12:28.839 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Here, for example, is a map of some local project and community orchards in East Anglia on display.
629 01:12:29.070 --> 01:12:35.840 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So there's a lot of things that's already happening, and very much things that need to happen locally without any necessary government involvement.
630 01:12:36.260 --> 01:12:42.169 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: A lot of places have recently had to deal with flooding that they've not had to deal with before, for example.
631 01:12:43.450 --> 01:12:45.680 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: What matters most to our communities?
632 01:12:46.170 --> 01:12:55.429 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: In the 1940s, a gentleman called Abram Maslow did a process of looking at what were the theories of… a theory of human motivation based on people's needs.
633 01:12:55.610 --> 01:13:05.350 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And in order, the physical requirements, food, water, and shelter, are the top of the list, really. Because a lot of people in our parishes and towns are facing those issues every day as we speak.
634 01:13:05.700 --> 01:13:18.729 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So what are the opportunities, then, that we have in our local areas for responding to these changes that are coming at us? I've highlighted B-squares, and when this presentation comes around, be able to click on that link and find out more about it.
635 01:13:18.950 --> 01:13:29.539 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Bees and other pollinating insects need fuel to gather around the place to pollinate the plants and trees, which eventually end up providing us with a lot of our food.
636 01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:35.859 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And in many places, bees are constrained by acres of tarmac and concrete.
637 01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:48.340 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So planting bee squares and wildflowers in our own gardens is an easy way in which we might help improve the situation, support wildlife, and also indirectly help ourselves, because we benefit from more pollinated plants.
638 01:13:48.340 --> 01:14:05.010 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So there's a number of things. Oh, looking then ahead, what can local councils do? We're looking at what people can do. What can local councils do on their own? There's going to be a separate piece of advice coming around, linking a whole host of things, but here are some examples of the things that we can do, and again, just been talking about allotments.
639 01:14:05.330 --> 01:14:10.269 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: There are… there's a link there, and creating the allotments, the processes of how we do that.
640 01:14:10.980 --> 01:14:14.970 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Now then, when we start getting together with residents, there's even more things we can do.
641 01:14:15.100 --> 01:14:20.379 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Here, again, it's only a small sample. With a lot of places now having to face floods.
642 01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:37.879 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And we have guidance available, through the Great Collaboration, carrying out a rapid flood risk assessment. What are the things that are available, likely to happen in our own area, which we might be able to help deal with through volunteers, rather than having to raise money for expensive flood defences?
643 01:14:38.320 --> 01:14:41.489 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, we're going to involve the community, well, how do we do that?
644 01:14:42.120 --> 01:14:59.810 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We're looking ahead now to having this NEB, the National Emergency Briefing film, and I think having a public meeting following on from that film is the best idea we've heard so far. So when we have a screening of the film, there'll be some guidance, which we're looking to develop, and hopefully also from the NEB team itself.
645 01:14:59.890 --> 01:15:16.870 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But if we can say at our screenings, yes, in a month's time, there'll be another meeting to talk about community action, what we're going to do, come on down. So that's something we can strongly recommend going forward. But once we have that meeting, we can start talking about getting local working groups getting together to keep the initiatives happening.
646 01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:42.919 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Today, we've been in Colchester at first sight, which is amazing, delivering a workshop, trying to help the community to come together around what kinds of action they can take locally to improve energy resilience, really, and to make sure that their community has got what it needs in the face of the changing climate. Connecting people together is a really important starting point, and hopefully we can, yeah, take something forward and build something. Just starting that conversation is a really important thing, starting that conversation
647 01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:47.890 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: In a pub, at a parish meeting or something like that, just to get it out in the open.
648 01:15:47.890 --> 01:15:53.129 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That's what we're all about. It's community climate action happening right now, today.
649 01:15:55.100 --> 01:16:05.689 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We applied this in my last parish, and persuaded the council to donate a piece of land, a couple hectares of land, and then we held a
650 01:16:05.820 --> 01:16:17.659 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: meeting in the village hall and said, why don't you all come and tell us what to do with this land? And in a village of, 700 people, we got 125 turnout, which we thought was pretty good.
651 01:16:17.780 --> 01:16:27.950 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We asked them to tell us what they wanted to do with the land, and then we sorted it out so that those things happened, and then the volunteers came out of the woodwork like crazy.
652 01:16:28.070 --> 01:16:31.199 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Well, particularly useful if you get children involved.
653 01:16:31.280 --> 01:16:49.560 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And once you start planting trees and hedgerows and bug hotels and ponds, and then everything goes smoothly from then on, we really saw it was a fantastic, turnout of people. So if you want to overcome the reluctance of everyone to get involved, involve nature.
654 01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:53.900 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Thank you very much. That's very good. Good advice. Steve!
655 01:16:54.220 --> 01:17:08.649 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, I think another way of involving people is through festivals and public events. I know it's an urban context. We've done a few in Norwich, which I'm sure the Community Governance Project. Last year, I'm doing another one this year, which is kind of celebrating the
656 01:17:08.670 --> 01:17:14.730 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The various community gardens exist, which could be at very small street level, as well as park size.
657 01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:23.139 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: setups. So, another great approach, particularly perhaps for smaller parishes, is clustering, getting together with other parishes nearby.
658 01:17:23.570 --> 01:17:37.979 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: people can work together about issues, certainly in terms of flood management. Flood waters have no respect to parish… town council boundaries. Wildlife have no respect to town or parish council boundaries. There's all kinds of things that we might do.
659 01:17:38.340 --> 01:17:56.789 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Particularly highlighted here that the Joint Energy Community Energy Project, which has already been mentioned once. People can get together and develop, a community energy scheme. There's a big picture there of a big wind turbine built in 2013, Gammon Gain in Cambridgeshire.
660 01:17:56.860 --> 01:18:10.500 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: It's been, as you can see, a lot of people are involved, it's been very successful, and it's now, as well as providing energy, it's generating, something like £10,000 a year for the parish to be spending on, community projects.
661 01:18:11.430 --> 01:18:29.130 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: People say, what are the powers and duties we have as local, town, and parish councils? Well, there are lots of things that we can do, which we not always be aware of. We know we have a duty to provide allotments. People ask them. That's a statutory duty going back over 100 years. We know we have to consider biodiversity in everything that we do.
662 01:18:29.190 --> 01:18:40.469 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We also have a duty to hold an annual parish meeting. May not be quite well known, but that is something that's very worthwhile in getting people engaged. So those are the duties that we have to do, but they have powers that we can use.
663 01:18:40.470 --> 01:18:51.609 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Now, the power I like most is the one at the top, up right there, Section 101 of the Good Old Local Government Act 1972. We can work with high-level councils on their responsibilities and duties.
664 01:18:51.810 --> 01:19:04.899 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, even though we don't have the power of competence doing everything we might like in our own… under our own aegis, we can actually, with their involvement, of course, work on whatever the district, counties, and unities are doing as well.
665 01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:15.839 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Funding is another issue that comes up regularly in terms of doing things for climate action and nature recovery. There are some fundings that we can have under our own control.
666 01:19:15.940 --> 01:19:20.379 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: As we know, the Section 137 funding, we have to create
667 01:19:20.450 --> 01:19:29.580 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The funding within our own, annual precept, but we can spend up to £11.60 per elector in the current, coming financial year.
668 01:19:29.580 --> 01:19:44.209 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And again, there's a link there to the Climate Action webpage for the SSCC, where we can see a lot more detail about the ways we can get money. I usually say, money can't find people, but people can find money. There are ways of finding and raising the money.
669 01:19:44.270 --> 01:20:00.199 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That we can deliver service to. So, as you were talking about the wind turbine in Gambling Gay, that was raised, the money for that, locally, with share options, to invest in the company, and it was entirely funded by local residents.
670 01:20:00.340 --> 01:20:13.669 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And local businesses. So, it's a really successful way of… of raising funding. And if there's a… if there's a project that, local businesses and local residents can really get behind and see the benefit of, obviously then
671 01:20:13.670 --> 01:20:26.170 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I've been told that, money isn't the, the, the reason not to do something. You can get hold of the money if the idea is good enough, and you can engage enough people in the, in the approach.
672 01:20:27.090 --> 01:20:30.090 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So I'm just going to summarize what we've been talking about today.
673 01:20:30.290 --> 01:20:43.849 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: If we've got an issue, particularly if we've seen the National Natural Briefing Firm and want to know what to do next, look around your local area, see what facilities, what opportunities there may be, connect with local people.
674 01:20:43.850 --> 01:20:50.749 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Net with community groups, community, representatives, maybe schools as well, churches, whatever, or sports clubs.
675 01:20:51.160 --> 01:21:08.900 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Gather any local evidence for things that might need to be doing, and ideas for the future that might happen. Make a declaration there. We don't necessarily have to declare a climate emergency, but if we let people know that things are happening in our parish and in our town, that is quite important that people can understand that, latch onto it, maybe more people come forward.
676 01:21:09.250 --> 01:21:16.369 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Start with something simple, we don't have to start with anything very complicated. It's good to start with some simple stuff, the main thing is to make a start.
677 01:21:16.670 --> 01:21:28.510 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Be critical about planning applications. If planning applications come forward, then, we, need to be careful about what they are, and say some things about that, and just generally work in partnership as we're going through.
678 01:21:28.930 --> 01:21:30.249 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Looking up, so…
679 01:21:31.230 --> 01:21:38.890 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, there are some various bits of advice and guidance we can get hold of after the meeting. Again, these links will be sent round.
680 01:21:39.230 --> 01:21:43.870 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Community Energy, at the top of the page, Wildlife Trust for Natural Community.
681 01:21:43.940 --> 01:21:53.569 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Great collaboration that is ourselves. We have a website, we have a developing knowledge base of good practice, we have weekly sessions on a Wednesday midday to talk about particular topics.
682 01:21:53.580 --> 01:22:04.100 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And we're supporting county forums at a county-wide basis for people to get together and exchange information and ideas. So there's lots of advice out there.
683 01:22:04.290 --> 01:22:07.340 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Lots of support that's available. We don't have to do it all right.
684 01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:20.399 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And if you would like to get in touch with us particularly, we'd be delighted to hear from you. There's our email address, hello at greatcollaboration.uk, and we're very happy to help people in any way, shape, or form.
685 01:22:26.240 --> 01:22:27.460 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: There it is.
686 01:22:28.500 --> 01:22:30.760 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Got there in the end, anyway.
687 01:22:31.980 --> 01:22:42.670 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So I think that that's, again, I mean, Rick Casale has left the meeting just now, but that's, really about what we were saying about the community action side, as opposed to the
688 01:22:43.020 --> 01:22:56.249 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: politically lobbying side of things. We actually did a recording of the whole of that Zoom session, so people can actually have a choice of seeing, you know, that sort of 10 and a half minute version.
689 01:22:56.590 --> 01:23:02.169 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: or if they wanted to see the whole thing, they can as well, which has obviously got more information in it.
690 01:23:02.500 --> 01:23:04.060 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But what do you think, guys?
691 01:23:04.420 --> 01:23:05.410 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yeah, it's good.
692 01:23:05.550 --> 01:23:06.350 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Nope.
693 01:23:06.530 --> 01:23:11.179 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And where will that be available? Is that available on your website, or something?
694 01:23:11.180 --> 01:23:24.060 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, it's now just been made available, it's just being posted on our YouTube channel. I've just got the link from that from Graham this morning, so I can put that in the chat.
695 01:23:24.940 --> 01:23:26.370 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Here we are.
696 01:23:27.120 --> 01:23:33.099 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: As I say, the plan is to have
697 01:23:34.010 --> 01:23:45.830 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I don't know when and whether the National Emergency Briefing Team are going to produce their own X Steps Guide or what's going to be in it. So I've been waiting a little bit until… well, certainly until after this meeting.
698 01:23:46.260 --> 01:23:48.430 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But looking at also at the,
699 01:23:48.610 --> 01:23:52.590 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: What they themselves are producing, so that we can sort of
700 01:23:52.780 --> 01:23:57.400 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: dovetail with that. But if it gets to a certain point, you know, the film is out there, it's being shown.
701 01:23:57.820 --> 01:24:02.269 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We do need to share the, share the joy as soon as we can.
702 01:24:02.410 --> 01:24:08.009 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So that's now available on our own YouTube channel, but as sending out out…
703 01:24:08.440 --> 01:24:21.999 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We'll be sending out via, county offices of county associations, of local councils, and… but also sending out through society local council clerks to the parish clerk membership.
704 01:24:22.520 --> 01:24:25.079 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So that will be available out there.
705 01:24:26.030 --> 01:24:32.520 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And, Alan, obviously, we're busy looking at, in, in…
706 01:24:32.680 --> 01:24:47.190 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: bringing the Save Our Shropshire impetition website into the SLCC fold, and there'll be all elements of what we've been talking about today on what they're thinking of. They're calling it SLCCE,
707 01:24:48.380 --> 01:25:03.860 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I know, it wasn't my decision. But there we go. Alan and his colleagues were instrumental in putting together Save Our Shropshire as an initiative some while ago, but now handing the battle over to SLCC.
708 01:25:05.630 --> 01:25:06.640 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Whoa.
709 01:25:06.980 --> 01:25:16.469 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I've made lots of notes, and we've had some great ideas here. I've got a couple of bits of briefing papers to go out with that film we've already… we've just seen.
710 01:25:16.590 --> 01:25:19.309 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And I'll add in some points that have been made from today.
711 01:25:19.430 --> 01:25:25.929 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And as I say, it's great that, David, that you and Sheila were able to be here, that had actually seen the film.
712 01:25:26.240 --> 01:25:29.010 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And we'll see where we go from there.
713 01:25:29.210 --> 01:25:31.079 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, we're not, we're not,
714 01:25:31.580 --> 01:25:37.450 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We're not downgrading the need to speak to their MPs or speak to government, but we do need to do our own stuff, as well.
715 01:25:38.900 --> 01:25:40.369 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: You need to act local.
716 01:25:40.370 --> 01:25:41.080 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah.
717 01:25:41.630 --> 01:25:42.740 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Great stuff.
718 01:25:42.940 --> 01:25:46.670 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Thank you very much. Any more from you today, Alan?
719 01:25:47.090 --> 01:25:47.850 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You also…
720 01:25:47.850 --> 01:25:52.010 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: So, I think I've done enough damage at the very beginning, thank you very much.
721 01:25:52.350 --> 01:25:56.420 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): How do we get on your mailing list? Shall I send you an email or something like that?
722 01:25:56.420 --> 01:26:12.259 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Now, by all means, Sean, if you want to put that in the chat, what… Graham keeps a list of all the people that have attended these screenings, so you should be able to get the… you should be getting the notice of future midday sessions.
723 01:26:12.400 --> 01:26:25.820 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: after day, in any case, and of course, you've been in touch with my colleague Jules in terms of working Wendover, but by all means, send it across so that we make sure that you're encouraged. I have spoken to Mel, who's your county officer for Buckinghamshire and Milton Keynes, about.
724 01:26:25.820 --> 01:26:26.340 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): active.
725 01:26:26.340 --> 01:26:34.579 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: establishing a, a countywide forum for Buckinghamshire. We've done that successfully for Isaacs and Norfolk already.
726 01:26:34.700 --> 01:26:37.500 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, that would be…
727 01:26:37.610 --> 01:26:50.089 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: partly about in-person meetings, a lot about online meetings, but also having a… using the… an online piece of software called Hilo, which allows people to share ideas in between meetings, and Jill's probably mentioned that to you when he… when he saw you.
728 01:26:50.800 --> 01:26:51.350 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay.
729 01:26:51.350 --> 01:26:53.630 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): We can push from underneath to.
730 01:26:53.630 --> 01:26:56.049 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That's it, that's it.
731 01:26:56.050 --> 01:26:57.190 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): It's become a nuisance.
732 01:26:57.420 --> 01:27:06.889 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, I always thought there's two levels. There's sort of horizontal stuff where we work with people around us, but then vertically we need to push up through high-level authorities all the way to government, absolutely.
733 01:27:06.890 --> 01:27:07.420 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Nope.
734 01:27:07.420 --> 01:27:08.180 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay.
735 01:27:08.180 --> 01:27:24.380 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Drew, just before we go, I'd just like to pass on to Alistair that the fact is, I think the farming fraternity is up for a renaissance, because we're going to have to start to pull together, like it was in World War II, to actually be sustainable in this country, because.
736 01:27:24.380 --> 01:27:24.800 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Huh.
737 01:27:24.800 --> 01:27:29.620 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: We can't rely on other people elsewhere to supply our food.
738 01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:31.690 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yeah, definitely.
739 01:27:31.690 --> 01:27:33.359 Alastair boyd: I'm glad you appreciate that.
740 01:27:33.580 --> 01:27:34.070 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But, man.
741 01:27:34.070 --> 01:27:34.760 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: opening.
742 01:27:35.710 --> 01:27:38.130 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yes, ding for victory as well. Yeah, there we are.
743 01:27:38.130 --> 01:27:38.540 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: close.
744 01:27:38.540 --> 01:27:42.389 Alastair boyd: Also, we hadn't mentioned about water, which is down here we've had.
745 01:27:42.390 --> 01:27:42.710 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yep.
746 01:27:42.710 --> 01:27:55.390 Alastair boyd: Yeah, a lot of cuts back, and a lot of areas where thousands of people have been going on bottled water. And, yeah, that's another thing that's a serious job, but anyway, right. Thank you very much for your help and your…
747 01:27:55.390 --> 01:28:14.499 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): If I can just add one thing on that, I mean, if you can rope in your local water company, we're working with Thames to make a natural reserve on one of their disused sites, and that's kind of binding them in again, because they're not going to do anything that makes them look bad if they've already promised to do something.
748 01:28:14.670 --> 01:28:15.090 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right.
749 01:28:15.500 --> 01:28:17.199 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): It's a bit… it's a bit, sort of.
750 01:28:17.890 --> 01:28:20.819 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Twisting people's arms to get them to do something.
751 01:28:20.970 --> 01:28:23.380 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Look, Thames already look a bit bad, don't they?
752 01:28:23.380 --> 01:28:30.239 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yeah, yeah, they look terrible, so anything that can make them look a little bit better is… they're quite helpful.
753 01:28:30.240 --> 01:28:36.930 Alastair boyd: Most of our water comes from aquitas, and they're only now starting to talk about building reservoirs, so…
754 01:28:37.060 --> 01:28:42.320 Alastair boyd: They've got years to go. They should have done things 20 years ago, and they haven't.
755 01:28:43.050 --> 01:28:44.729 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: What part of the country are you from, Alastair?
756 01:28:44.730 --> 01:28:45.889 Alastair boyd: Ashford, Kent.
757 01:28:46.130 --> 01:28:46.900 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay, good.
758 01:28:46.900 --> 01:28:47.530 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Yeah.
759 01:28:47.530 --> 01:28:51.720 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): We're chalk around here, so the water just… flows away.
760 01:28:51.720 --> 01:28:52.310 Alastair boyd: Yep.
761 01:28:52.750 --> 01:29:01.520 Alastair boyd: Well, they built a motorway through us, and they, dropped the water table down by 7 meters. Really? Some of the old pumps are out of the water in summertime.
762 01:29:02.510 --> 01:29:03.620 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Just, just do it.
763 01:29:03.620 --> 01:29:04.220 Alastair boyd: That's…
764 01:29:04.440 --> 01:29:19.120 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Just to add to that point, so you're aware, our local village is, one of the pumping stations on the aquifer for the big conurbation of Telford, and they've just gone and dropped our local pump another 30 meters.
765 01:29:19.280 --> 01:29:24.509 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: They've sleeved it a further 30 meters deep into the aquifer.
766 01:29:24.620 --> 01:29:26.969 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: That's… that's how desperate they're getting.
767 01:29:27.390 --> 01:29:30.250 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): HS2's done something similar here as well, so…
768 01:29:30.740 --> 01:29:34.280 Alastair boyd: Well, we had a mile of the HS1 through us, so…
769 01:29:34.280 --> 01:29:35.079 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yeah, yeah, yeah.
770 01:29:35.080 --> 01:29:41.260 Alastair boyd: That's where… that's where the water went the first time. We had them come 21st as well.
771 01:29:41.590 --> 01:29:45.120 Alastair boyd: Just adjacent to the thing, they took the water down as well, so…
772 01:29:45.390 --> 01:29:48.919 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yeah, it's… yes, their modeling does not work.
773 01:29:48.920 --> 01:29:49.590 Alastair boyd: Hmm.
774 01:29:50.590 --> 01:29:51.680 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Anyway, brilliant.
775 01:29:51.680 --> 01:29:52.450 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah.
776 01:29:52.450 --> 01:29:56.379 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Are you doing another one of these shortly, or…
777 01:29:56.540 --> 01:30:13.410 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The… there's going to be, the SLCC are putting on a webinar on this, on May the 12th, which you also get to hear my dose it turns on, so that would be the next thing. Yeah, this one's going to run and run, isn't it? Because there are people who've been…
778 01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:27.580 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: There are people at the moment, and then they don't even know of the film, let alone that they're going to see it. And, so Sam, I've been reaching out, particularly through, Durham Parish Councils. There will… there are other
779 01:30:27.860 --> 01:30:34.040 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I haven't spoken to Friends of the Earth lately, for example, but one of the things I might do is,
780 01:30:34.290 --> 01:30:38.659 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The screening map tells us
781 01:30:39.270 --> 01:30:45.699 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: who are doing these screenings. I'm just making a note to myself. Maybe I should be sending stuff to those people as well.
782 01:30:45.700 --> 01:30:51.269 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yeah, yeah. Chiltern Society, National Trust, all of them. Yes.
783 01:30:52.030 --> 01:30:54.490 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, they can run, but they can't hide, yeah.
784 01:30:55.680 --> 01:30:57.600 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Any more thoughts from you today, Alistair?
785 01:30:57.600 --> 01:30:58.340 Alastair boyd: No, thank you.
786 01:30:59.390 --> 01:31:03.119 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We're doing well. Stuart, any thoughts today? You've been very quiet, but .
787 01:31:03.120 --> 01:31:06.300 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: No, I've been very quietly listening to everyone.
788 01:31:07.130 --> 01:31:10.620 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: It's been a great… we've had a great group of people today. Thank you so much.
789 01:31:10.620 --> 01:31:16.269 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: As I keep saying, I think we do need to have more sessions on farming and agriculture.
790 01:31:16.270 --> 01:31:16.860 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yep.
791 01:31:17.410 --> 01:31:18.580 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right, yeah.
792 01:31:18.770 --> 01:31:30.139 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): we can get some… I know there are lots of different views on the different farming approaches, but we've got some farmers around here with very strong views that.
793 01:31:30.140 --> 01:31:30.460 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Oops.
794 01:31:30.460 --> 01:31:32.930 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Or they'd be happy to give up a little bit of time.
795 01:31:33.910 --> 01:31:39.709 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Alistair, would you… would you and or your son happy to lead one of these discussions, or would you rather.
796 01:31:39.710 --> 01:31:43.779 Alastair boyd: Well, I'm not a big farmer, I'm not a big talker, but
797 01:31:44.230 --> 01:31:47.080 Alastair boyd: I can contribute a bit, but…
798 01:31:47.080 --> 01:31:50.009 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But if you come along and be in the audience, then, that would be soundable.
799 01:31:50.010 --> 01:31:50.550 Alastair boyd: Yeah.
800 01:31:51.510 --> 01:31:53.940 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Good. Yes, Sean, if there's any,
801 01:31:54.000 --> 01:32:13.239 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: any people… I mean, if Graeme was here, he'd be saying this. Any people you know that would like to do that, because I think food security and farming finally beginning to rise up the national agenda. The National Lottery, who do a climate action fund, their latest iteration is about food security.
802 01:32:13.240 --> 01:32:15.059 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Grid security, yes, yes.
803 01:32:15.060 --> 01:32:26.269 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, the lottery has got the message, certainly. And as I say, I'm big on food, I eat it all the time.
804 01:32:26.270 --> 01:32:27.890 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): I eat too much of it, I think.
805 01:32:27.890 --> 01:32:36.940 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Well, there you go. There we are, yes. Thank you, gentlemen, for laughing at my jokes. It keeps me going for at least another week.
806 01:32:36.940 --> 01:32:39.420 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Say it again, Andrew. Bye-bye.
807 01:32:39.420 --> 01:32:41.390 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Great occasion.
808 01:32:41.390 --> 01:32:42.250 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Thank you, bye.
809 01:32:42.250 --> 01:32:42.840 Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: It's.
810 01:32:43.330 --> 01:32:44.180 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Push it out.
811 01:32:44.750 --> 01:32:45.830 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Great stuff.
812 01:32:47.230 --> 01:32:49.819 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Wow, what a session, that rude.
813 01:32:52.310 --> 01:32:53.410 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: What's a sheet.
814 01:32:56.140 --> 01:32:59.619 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We'll catch up soon, Alan. I'll be up in Shropshire later in the year.
Last updated