# Banter 114: 08Apr26 National Emergency Briefing/People's Emergency Briefing with Andrew Maliphant {% embed url="" %} *** #### Presentation: No separate presentation this week - the video is the presentation *** ### Meeting Summary: Banter 114 NEB/PEB Apr 08, 2026 11:57 AM London ID: 834 5460 8536 #### Quick recap The meeting focused on discussing responses to the National Emergency Briefing film, which was recently launched to raise awareness about climate and environmental crises. Participants shared experiences from initial screenings and discussed strategies for engaging local communities, including leveraging local media, involving MPs, and organizing follow-up actions. The group explored practical steps for local climate action, such as community energy projects, food security initiatives, and working with parish and town councils. They also addressed the importance of involving harder-to-reach communities and ensuring that actions are both effective and accessible. The discussion highlighted the need for a balanced approach between political lobbying and local community engagement to address the climate emergency effectively. #### Next steps * Ric: Send the link to the report and action guide to Graham for inclusion in the knowledge base. * Graham: Add the report and action guide link (to be provided by Ric) to the knowledge base. * Ric: Put the link to the action guide in the chat (completed during meeting, but noted for follow-up). * Andrew Maliphant: Send out briefing papers and links (including the 10-minute film and relevant guidance) to county offices of local councils, SLCC, and other relevant networks after the meeting. * Andrew Maliphant: Add points raised during today's meeting to the briefing papers before distribution. * Andrew Maliphant: Consider sending information and support resources to organizations/individuals listed on the screening map who are hosting film screenings. * Sean: Put the link to the "Just In Case, 7 Steps to Narrow the UK Civil Food Resilience Gap" report in the chat (completed during meeting, but noted for follow-up). * Andrew Maliphant: Put the link to the 10-minute film on the Great Collaboration YouTube channel in the chat (completed during meeting, but noted for follow-up). * Sean: Send contact/email to Andrew Maliphant (or Graham) to be added to the mailing list for future sessions. * Andrew Maliphant: Follow up with Mel (Buckinghamshire county officer) regarding establishment of a Buckinghamshire countywide forum. * Andrew Maliphant: Organize or invite farming/agriculture-focused session(s) for future meetings, potentially involving Alastair or other local farmers. #### Summary #### National Emergency Briefing Film Discussion The meeting focused on discussing a recently launched national emergency briefing film and how to support local communities in responding to it. Andrew Maliphant, chair of the Great Collaboration, led the discussion and noted the goal was to use the film as a catalyst for local action rather than causing alarm. The group discussed making their report and action guide available on the knowledge base, with Ric offering to provide the necessary link. Participants also briefly introduced themselves and shared personal anecdotes, though the main discussion about the film content was cut off at the end of the provided transcript. #### Climate Film Engagement Strategies The group discussed reactions to a climate change film screening, with David reporting positive feedback from attendees in Hereford who found it more acceptable than previous climate protests. Sheila from Dorset shared her experience at a launch event, noting the film's effectiveness in engaging people who hadn't previously considered climate issues. The discussion focused on strategies for broader engagement, with participants agreeing that while the film's primary purpose was to influence government action through political pressure rather than community action, they should contact their MPs and advocate for a national TV screening. Allan suggested researching MPs' actual interests and potential conflicts of interest before engaging with them on climate issues. #### MP Engagement Strategies for Screenings The group discussed strategies for engaging with MPs regarding film screenings. David Faulkner suggested attending MP surgeries without prior notice to get them to engage directly. Sean McCarthy shared his experience from Wendover, noting that local media coverage helped gain the MP's attention. Kirstin suggested leveraging local gazettes in rural communities to reach harder-to-reach groups who may not be active on social media. The discussion focused on practical approaches to gain MP involvement and promote screenings in different community settings. #### Emergency Preparedness Community Engagement Strategy Andrew Maliphant presented on a film called "People's Emergency Briefing" which aims to raise local resilience and engage people in emergency preparedness. He discussed key topics from a previous November briefing, including climate change impacts, biodiversity loss, and food security concerns. Ric suggested focusing more on what audience members can do collectively rather than just influencing their MP, which aligned with Andrew's presentation about local responses and community engagement. The meeting included brief discussions about press engagement and sharing relevant resources, though specific decisions or action items were not clearly outlined in the transcript. #### Environmental Documentary Teaser Discussion The group discussed a teaser trailer for an environmental documentary that highlights the urgency of climate action and the need for both local and government-level responses. David Faulkner clarified that while local action is important, it must support broader government initiatives to achieve meaningful change. The team reviewed current screening numbers, with about 500 already booked and 700 inquiries, and discussed next steps including involving MPs in government advocacy and utilizing a forthcoming facilitation guide from the National Emergency Briefing Team. #### Community Engagement Messaging Strategy Andrew Maliphant discussed the need for tailored messaging and pathways to empower different community groups to take collective action following film screenings. He emphasized the importance of identifying local leaders and existing initiatives, collecting contact details at screenings, and organizing follow-up meetings. Andrew also highlighted the development of a 10-minute film offering guidance on next steps and suggested practical support options, including climate action workshops and training programs. The group acknowledged the need for diverse communication strategies to reach various audiences effectively. #### Community Energy Transition Initiatives The group discussed the positive outcomes from recent presentations on energy transition and renewable energy, noting that advancements in wind, solar, and EV adoption were happening faster than expected. Sheila suggested forming a lobbying group to counter oil industry influence, while Graham proposed creating community climate action plans through volunteer engagement rather than top-down directives. The discussion highlighted Gamlinga parish as a successful example of community energy, where a wind turbine installed in 2013 generates around £10,000 annually for local environmental projects, and Kirstin mentioned recent solar panel installations with battery storage at a community preschool building. #### Climate Action Community Engagement Strategies The group discussed strategies for community engagement around climate action and film screenings. Ric shared a new action guide for collaborative climate and nature action, which Andrew agreed to add to the knowledge base. Piers suggested organizing joint film screenings across multiple organizations rather than single-organization events to broader participation. Sean emphasized the importance of identifying and engaging various stakeholders, including local towns and organizations, and recommended repeating messages through multiple film screenings in different venues to reach a wider audience. #### Food Security and Civil Defense The group discussed civil defense and food security concerns, with David Faulkner sharing insights from a presentation by a lieutenant general about the national security risks posed by food system vulnerabilities. Alastair, a farmer, expressed significant concerns about current food security, citing weather impacts on agriculture, economic pressures on farmers, and the reliance on international food imports. The discussion concluded with agreement on the importance of local food resilience efforts, including community gardening and supporting local farmers, though it was acknowledged that these would need to complement rather than replace large-scale farming operations. #### Community Climate Action Initiatives Andrew Maliphant presented a 10-minute film about community climate action and nature recovery, highlighting local projects and initiatives that can be undertaken without government involvement. He discussed the importance of connecting with residents through community meetings and workshops, sharing an example from his previous parish where engaging the community over land use led to high volunteer turnout. Steve suggested involving people through festivals and public events, particularly for smaller parishes, and recommended clustering with nearby parishes for greater impact. #### Local Council Collaboration Strategies Andrew Maliphant discussed the importance of collaboration across parish and town council boundaries for issues like flood management and wildlife conservation. He highlighted the success of the Joint Energy Community Project in Gamlingay, which involved a wind turbine generating approximately £10,000 annually for community projects. Andrew outlined various powers and duties of local councils, including working with higher-level councils under Section 101 of the Local Government Act 1972, and funding opportunities like Section 137 funding up to £11.60 per election. He concluded by advising attendees to connect with local communities, gather evidence, make declarations about climate actions, be critical of planning applications, and start with simple projects while leveraging available resources and support from organizations like Great Collaboration. #### Community Action Forum Planning The meeting focused on the distribution of a recorded Zoom session about community action versus political lobbying. Andrew announced that the recording is now available on YouTube and will be shared through county offices, local councils, and parish clerk membership. The group discussed plans for a countywide forum in Buckinghamshire using an online platform called Hilo, and Sean suggested involving local water companies in environmental initiatives. The participants also touched on food security and farming, with Cllr. Stuart suggesting the need for more sessions on agriculture and farming approaches. *** ### Chat: Banter 114 NEB/PEB 00:11:28 Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: So far, the following screenings are scheduled in Shropshire: \ Market Drayton Climate Action - Friday 17 April, 7.30pm at the Festival Drayton Centre. Free entrance, discussion to follow. Bishop’s Castle: 17/18 April, various screenings, see the poster in Upcoming Events below. Shropshire Wildlife Trust - Saturday 25 April, 3pm at the Cut in Shrewsbury. Tickets here. Stretton Climate Care - Tuesday May 5th, 7pm, at the United Reformed Church Hall, Church Stretton Broseley Climate Action Group is hosting a screening at the Birchmeadow Centre, Broseley on Friday 8 May, starting at 7pm. Admission is free but donations welcome. Tickets via the Birchmeadow Centre website.
00:16:34 John Payne Penallt Monmouthshire: I would like to mention Welsh Resilience Hubs, some 40 in all. In Penallt we have a community building, which is modern, large and associated with the tennis and cricket clubs.\ It has two Tesla Powerwalls , with a bar, small kitchen and toilets. It can host meetings and has enough space to sleep and support at least most of the scattered rural community. A Fish n ‘ Chip van comes every Thursday.
00:17:51 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Reacted to "I would like to ment..." with 👍
00:19:09 Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Anyone know if there have there been any official responses from the main political parties to the film? \ 00:20:22 David Newman: I have to got to another webinar at 1230 (on paritcipatory budgeting). \ 00:20:57 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): In Bembridge, a new MP position (Isle of Wight East) was created last election, and we have a young man full of vim and vigour. He has already agreed to come to our showing of the PEB - so we are blessed! \ 00:21:15 David Newman: I would like to bring the MP and rival candidates from other parties at a screening. My objective is to replace her with a Green Party MP.
00:21:42 John Payne Penallt Monmouthshire: We also have a community owned village shop and PO, I am one of the 8 volunteers who own and help support it. It had a huge presence in Covid, it is across the river in England. These are resources that all communities should have. I don’t think MPs are that useful, Parish Councils and Community pressure groups are more useful \ 00:26:05 John Payne Penallt Monmouthshire: Much work has already been done in Wales, see these resources! \ 00:26:23 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Great idea to invite the press, Kirstin - thank you! \ 00:27:50 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): RE local press - prepare your own press release to make local journalist's job easy! \ 00:28:25 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: Reacted to "RE local press - p..." with 👍
00:29:29 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): ref Food Resilience challenge, this is good
00:29:46 Vicky Freeman Ilminster Town Council: Apologies, I am going to have to leave the meeting
00:36:36 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Information about the National Emergency Briefing and the People’s Emergency Briefing is available on our Knowledgebase, search for ‘NEB’ or ‘PEB’ at . It is being updated on a daily basis, so well worth re-visiting regularly…….
00:39:39 John Payne Penallt Monmouthshire: I am going to the screening in Shirenewton this evening , a small village north of Chepstow in the hills. Funding was obtained from Welsh Gov for the Resilience Hubs \ 00:46:54 John Payne Penallt Monmouthshire: It is also important to have one’s own Resilience Plan, particularly in light of recent geopolitical instability.\ I store enough energy for two years( timber) and have food resources for about 6 weeks.
00:53:34 David Morgan-Jones: Thank you very much - all very interesting \ 00:53:41 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): Guide created to help deliver climate and nature action more effectively: [www.carboncopy.eco/changeprint/report](https://www.carboncopy.eco/changeprint/report) \ 00:55:27 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): Report published two weeks ago. Identifies the ways of working together that can have a big impact.
00:58:10 Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: I have to drop off my parish councillors nomination forms for the upcoming election, so have to leave now- very interesting session, thanks everyone! \ 01:00:48 Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Apolohgies - have to leave now. was invited to join this zoom by Belinda Bawdon (Dorset Council for Lyme Regis). Thanks. \ 01:02:48 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: \ 01:02:51 Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Thanks for this. Useful to discussion. I need to go now.
01:03:31 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW):
01:05:43 Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): Thanks for a good discussion, apologies I have to leave now.
01:05:46 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Sweden and Finland both very strong on citizens’ responsibilities in times of emergency, and have very clear handbooks available to make such responsibilities clear - eg each person needs to have two weeks’ supply of food, water, candles, heat, etc ready to hand… \ 01:06:29 Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Need to run now, apologies, but thank you all for such a lively and exciting session. \ 01:23:45 Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Now on Youtube at \ 01:25:40 Kirsten Newble Cambridge: Thank you. I am organising a showing so this was very useful. \ 01:26:22 Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): \ 01:27:04 David Faulkner: Need to go now - thanks for an excellent session
*** #### Audiotranscript of Banter 114 session: 107 \ 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:54.410 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Andrew Malfront, currently Chair of the Great Collaboration. I'm also the Environment and Sustainability Advisor for the Society of Local Council Clerks, and apparently Deputy Chairman of NAUC's Climate Emergency Network, so I'm spreading around the landscape a bit. 108 \ 00:08:54.470 --> 00:09:03.400 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Very much focused on supporting parents and town councils working with their communities in responses to climate change and nature recovery. 109 \ 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.339 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: This national emergency film, which has come forward 110 \ 00:09:07.430 --> 00:09:17.780 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: following a national emergency briefing in Westminster Hall in November, is very much, something that we feel we, as the great collaboration, we should be responding to. 111 \ 00:09:17.780 --> 00:09:29.880 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Not least because, as Graeme suggested earlier, we don't want people just to be sort of alarmed by the film, or whatever it says, but we do want to have… use it as a springboard for more local action, and helping people to develop that. 112 \ 00:09:29.980 --> 00:09:35.960 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Before I start my presentation, is there anybody here present who has already seen the film? Because it was launched yesterday. 113 \ 00:09:36.330 --> 00:09:45.139 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay, David, do you want to tell us, David and Sheila? David, first, David, do you want to tell us what your… what it… what your reaction to it? How did it… 114 \ 00:09:45.260 --> 00:09:47.010 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: How did it land with your audience? 115 \ 00:09:48.140 --> 00:09:56.499 \ David Faulkner: It landed as you would expect, actually, and some people A bit shocked. 116 \ 00:09:56.860 --> 00:10:03.889 \ David Faulkner: some people… Would have seen similar before in days gone by, when they were… 117 \ 00:10:04.100 --> 00:10:09.899 \ David Faulkner: Around 8 years ago, with, kind of Extinction Rebellion type. 118 \ 00:10:10.290 --> 00:10:14.310 \ David Faulkner: Presentations, and when all the climate protests were going on. 119 \ 00:10:14.830 --> 00:10:22.660 \ David Faulkner: Right. I was quite relieved that somebody's doing something now to… counter all the… 120 \ 00:10:23.930 --> 00:10:30.540 \ David Faulkner: Politicising of the climate crisis, and there's now a vehicle that says, well, look at this. 121 \ 00:10:31.230 --> 00:10:33.349 \ David Faulkner: And it's actually much more… 122 \ 00:10:34.370 --> 00:10:35.230 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: positive. 123 \ 00:10:35.700 --> 00:10:42.740 \ David Faulkner: it's much more positive at the end, and it's much more… I think it's much more acceptable than the sort of thing that Extinction Rebellion were. 124 \ 00:10:43.130 --> 00:10:44.090 \ David Faulkner: I'm putting out. 125 \ 00:10:44.640 --> 00:10:51.650 \ David Faulkner: All those years ago. It's just facts and experts and… Very well put. 126 \ 00:10:52.180 --> 00:10:53.990 \ David Faulkner: Nicely structured film. 127 \ 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:55.640 \ David Faulkner: got people… 128 \ 00:10:56.330 --> 00:11:04.009 \ David Faulkner: giving instant reactions to seeing it, some well-known faces, I've, you know, recruited people to sit and watch it, and then… 129 \ 00:11:04.640 --> 00:11:09.219 \ David Faulkner: Cool. Give their instant reaction, so that's quite a good… 130 \ 00:11:10.260 --> 00:11:12.060 \ David Faulkner: good way of doing the whole film, I think. 131 \ 00:11:12.620 --> 00:11:15.959 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Which part of the country were… where… did you see it? Which was the. 132 \ 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:17.120 \ David Faulkner: I'm in Hereford. 133 \ 00:11:17.330 --> 00:11:27.549 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Hereford, okay. And was there, I know, obviously, the Hereford, Green Network has been very active. In fact, this is the network that founded the Great Collaboration. Yeah, that's true. 134 \ 00:11:27.550 --> 00:11:28.040 \ David Faulkner: Yes. 135 \ 00:11:28.040 --> 00:11:34.659 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Indeed. Was there… was there any, follow-up, or planned follow-up, David? 136 \ 00:11:36.370 --> 00:11:43.309 \ David Faulkner: there were quite a lot of suggestions of planned follow-up. I mean, most of the things that are in the film, they give you some actions to do. 137 \ 00:11:43.410 --> 00:11:47.470 \ David Faulkner: You know, I… in accordance with their strategy. 138 \ 00:11:48.430 --> 00:11:51.099 \ David Faulkner: So… Write to your MP. 139 \ 00:11:51.290 --> 00:11:53.890 \ David Faulkner: Make sure you see if the MP went to the briefing. 140 \ 00:11:54.300 --> 00:11:57.690 \ David Faulkner: If they didn't, ask them why. Show them so you see the film. 141 \ 00:11:58.320 --> 00:11:59.800 \ David Faulkner: Come to a briefing. 142 \ 00:12:00.750 --> 00:12:04.629 \ David Faulkner: I can't imagine you'll get many MPs turning up to a briefing. It's quite a high… 143 \ 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:08.240 \ David Faulkner: quite an intensive place for an MP to go. 144 \ 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:14.530 \ David Faulkner: When you watch this sort of film, they've… they've struggled to defend themselves, I think. 145 \ 00:12:15.130 --> 00:12:17.659 \ David Faulkner: Yeah. But right to your MP. 146 \ 00:12:18.220 --> 00:12:25.660 \ David Faulkner: And say that you want a national screen… their main focus is they want a national screening on primetime TV. 147 \ 00:12:26.060 --> 00:12:26.940 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Yup. 148 \ 00:12:26.990 --> 00:12:29.200 \ David Faulkner: So that everybody sees it. 149 \ 00:12:29.370 --> 00:12:30.779 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: At the same time. 150 \ 00:12:31.730 --> 00:12:38.670 \ David Faulkner: Yeah, because what will happen is, you know, we're… I mean, the first thing is to have a showing and sort of spread the word. 151 \ 00:12:39.340 --> 00:12:46.910 \ David Faulkner: So, you know, we'll end up… yeah, I mean, Herefordshire, we'll probably end up with quite a few showings around the county. I think there's two. 152 \ 00:12:47.610 --> 00:12:52.569 \ David Faulkner: on the list yesterday. There'll be more, I think, in the coming days. 153 \ 00:12:55.880 --> 00:13:02.389 \ David Faulkner: But get people along, but you'll only get… the people who'll come along, unfortunately, will be the people who've already seen 154 \ 00:13:02.680 --> 00:13:06.519 \ David Faulkner: Similar type films, similar type knowledge. 155 \ 00:13:06.750 --> 00:13:13.960 \ David Faulkner: You won't get to the people who you need to convince to say, something needs to change here, and it needs to change fast. 156 \ 00:13:14.750 --> 00:13:15.160 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right. 157 \ 00:13:15.800 --> 00:13:21.250 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: You need to slot at the same time as Coronation Street and, EastEnders. 158 \ 00:13:21.560 --> 00:13:26.180 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: And, say, sorry, it's canceled for tonight. Have a look at this for a change. 159 \ 00:13:27.270 --> 00:13:28.220 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: There we go. 160 \ 00:13:28.660 --> 00:13:33.359 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Sheila from Broad Windsor in Dorset, what was the reaction at your screening? 161 \ 00:13:33.940 --> 00:13:42.200 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Hi, I… I'm not a counsellor, I represent Broad Windsor Parish Council. 162 \ 00:13:42.380 --> 00:13:48.650 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: In West Dorset, and I'm also part of Bemminster Area Eco Group. 163 \ 00:13:48.800 --> 00:13:54.390 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: And Beministry, the Eco Group is hosting a showing on the 24th of April. 164 \ 00:13:54.740 --> 00:14:13.099 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: in Bemminster, to which we've invited local counsellors and various other people, faith groups, and anybody else that we can think that might be interested. I went to the launch in Bridport yesterday evening. 165 \ 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:23.939 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: And, it was very well attended, but as the other gentleman was saying, probably by those who are already faithful to the cause. 166 \ 00:14:24.220 --> 00:14:30.509 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: There was… I found… personally found it very powerful. 167 \ 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:53.190 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: And I liked the way that Chris Packham was sitting casually with various groups of individuals, watching it, and just chatting, and their reactions were the reactions of people who hadn't thought much about these sorts of things before, and 168 \ 00:14:53.260 --> 00:14:58.259 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: I thought their honest reactions were great, because people will be able to 169 \ 00:14:58.820 --> 00:15:07.109 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: link with that and say, I'm not alone. I don't feel so stupid. Other people think like this, too. 170 \ 00:15:07.270 --> 00:15:12.719 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: And we need to… Find ways of working as communities. 171 \ 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:20.470 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: to spread the word. I mean, I don't… I've always been asking, how do you get people who… 172 \ 00:15:20.610 --> 00:15:22.450 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Don't want to know. 173 \ 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:28.300 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Aren't interested, have pressing other social problems to deal with. 174 \ 00:15:28.400 --> 00:15:33.979 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: And thinking about what's going to happen with the climate is just beyond their ability. 175 \ 00:15:34.580 --> 00:15:48.350 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: how do we spread our message to include those people and make them not afraid? I mean, we can't be afraid and panic, we've got to do things in measured ways. 176 \ 00:15:49.680 --> 00:15:56.449 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: But overall, I thought the film was brilliant. I thought it was really well produced, well presented. 177 \ 00:15:56.590 --> 00:15:59.520 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: And accessible to absolutely everyone. 178 \ 00:16:00.690 --> 00:16:03.149 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Thank you very much, Sheila. 179 \ 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:22.680 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, really, what I wanted to come out of today's discussions is, what are the other ways that we can do what Sheila's just described? How do we gauge people? How do we support them, the things that we can do? And in fact, what neither of you has said is that it was focusing a lot on community action and local action. 180 \ 00:16:22.870 --> 00:16:27.119 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: what you've said is that it's very much looking at still going for your MP, is that fair? 181 \ 00:16:31.760 --> 00:16:33.100 \ David Faulkner: Probably, yeah. 182 \ 00:16:34.350 --> 00:16:35.880 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Yeah, after you. 183 \ 00:16:37.580 --> 00:16:39.090 \ David Faulkner: Okay, thanks, Sheila. 184 \ 00:16:39.190 --> 00:16:42.940 \ David Faulkner: I think the main… purpose of… 185 \ 00:16:43.710 --> 00:16:51.330 \ David Faulkner: Them producing this film and doing the briefing is still to get… governments and… 186 \ 00:16:51.800 --> 00:16:55.769 \ David Faulkner: Departments to take action, take appropriate action. 187 \ 00:16:57.030 --> 00:17:03.350 \ David Faulkner: It's also to brief… the general population. 188 \ 00:17:03.790 --> 00:17:09.260 \ David Faulkner: So, they will put pressure on… Said governments to take action. 189 \ 00:17:10.670 --> 00:17:11.449 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So it's very much. 190 \ 00:17:11.450 --> 00:17:11.770 \ David Faulkner: Nope. 191 \ 00:17:11.770 --> 00:17:12.740 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: agenda, yeah. 192 \ 00:17:12.740 --> 00:17:15.099 \ David Faulkner: I think that's what it… I don't think it's saying… 193 \ 00:17:15.619 --> 00:17:18.240 \ David Faulkner: You should go out and do this, and… 194 \ 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:22.940 \ David Faulkner: Recycle your yogurt pots, and, you know, it… it's… 195 \ 00:17:23.760 --> 00:17:30.789 \ David Faulkner: I mean, a lot of people will do that, but it's to take political action and vote. Contact your MP, 196 \ 00:17:31.170 --> 00:17:32.659 \ David Faulkner: Get them to vote. 197 \ 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:34.230 \ David Faulkner: accordingly. 198 \ 00:17:34.670 --> 00:17:35.290 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right. 199 \ 00:17:35.290 --> 00:17:38.210 \ David Faulkner: I think that's what the message is when you go onto there. 200 \ 00:17:39.230 --> 00:17:45.259 \ David Faulkner: The website is a really good website that the emergency briefing have got of what they did. 201 \ 00:17:49.110 --> 00:17:51.049 \ David Faulkner: That's my take from it. 202 \ 00:17:51.210 --> 00:17:53.779 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yep. Is that your take as well, Sheila? 203 \ 00:17:53.780 --> 00:18:12.820 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Generally speaking, yes, I think, we need leadership from the center, people taking action, doing more, and, you know, they promise so much in their manifesto, the current government, and they're retracting all the way. 204 \ 00:18:13.070 --> 00:18:14.560 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: At the moment. 205 \ 00:18:15.170 --> 00:18:17.349 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Can I make a suggestion, Andre? 206 \ 00:18:17.670 --> 00:18:18.450 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Go for it. 207 \ 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:27.240 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: In relation to your MPs, if you've never done it, I certainly have, with all five in Shropshire, is look at their actual interests. 208 \ 00:18:27.380 --> 00:18:31.680 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: That's the ones that are actually recorded at the Houses of Parliament. 209 \ 00:18:32.040 --> 00:18:35.270 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: and my own personal MP for where I live. 210 \ 00:18:35.490 --> 00:18:45.039 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: He actually works and has got money coming in in income from various oil companies that he works for. 211 \ 00:18:45.140 --> 00:18:46.259 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: on the side. 212 \ 00:18:47.760 --> 00:18:56.050 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: So, I know for a fact, because I've written to him in the past, on these issues, and Andrew knows I've been banging this drum for a long time. 213 \ 00:18:56.050 --> 00:18:56.740 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Indeed. 214 \ 00:18:57.280 --> 00:19:05.559 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: I've never had one response from my MP in relation to it, not even an acknowledgement. I've had his… I've had his lackey 215 \ 00:19:05.560 --> 00:19:22.760 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: email me for clarity, because once, I put it in under my councillor name, and said, is this a council motion, or is it a personal one? I had to confess up and say it was a personal one. I'd sent it on my parish email account by mistake, because I was so bloody angry at the time. 216 \ 00:19:23.540 --> 00:19:32.430 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Anyway, sorry about that. But these are the things that you need to research before you actually look at your MPs as to 217 \ 00:19:33.290 --> 00:19:40.070 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: judge, for want of a better phrase, and this would have come across, I hope, in the film, because I've not seen it yet. 218 \ 00:19:40.230 --> 00:19:44.790 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Where you look at your MP, and you test them for integrity. 219 \ 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:48.299 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: As to what their stand… what they actually stand for. 220 \ 00:19:48.550 --> 00:19:51.710 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: And when it comes to time for voting for people. 221 \ 00:19:51.820 --> 00:20:01.539 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: then you look at who they are, and what they stand for, and whether they're worthy of being voted for. And I think that's another angle that we need to be looking at. 222 \ 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:10.870 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: From that aspect of how we choose people that are representing us, not what they say, who and what they actually do. 223 \ 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:11.830 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right. 224 \ 00:20:12.710 --> 00:20:13.410 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, good news. 225 \ 00:20:13.410 --> 00:20:20.069 \ David Faulkner: So, yeah, one thing is, there was some discussion about how to engage with MPs on this, and… 226 \ 00:20:20.340 --> 00:20:25.729 \ David Faulkner: you know, a lot of people in the room had already written to MPs before, and you do get the MPs 227 \ 00:20:26.280 --> 00:20:34.260 \ David Faulkner: Support network gives you a nice reply fairly quickly, it's a bit bland, it doesn't actually answer the question commonly. 228 \ 00:20:34.590 --> 00:20:42.810 \ David Faulkner: there's a… there was some comments say the best way to find out what your MP thinks and to get them to actually engage with you is to go to a surgery. 229 \ 00:20:43.120 --> 00:20:45.600 \ David Faulkner: Don't tell them what you're gonna talk about, just go and… 230 \ 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:47.619 \ David Faulkner: Hit them in the face with it, right? 231 \ 00:20:47.810 --> 00:20:51.550 \ David Faulkner: Not literally, but, you know, I want to talk to you about the… 232 \ 00:20:52.180 --> 00:20:55.640 \ David Faulkner: Client emergency, whatever, and this briefing, and… 233 \ 00:20:55.740 --> 00:20:56.430 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Yep. 234 \ 00:20:56.610 --> 00:21:01.730 \ David Faulkner: Did you go? Why didn't you go if you didn't? If you did go, what are you doing about it? You know. 235 \ 00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:03.270 \ David Faulkner: Put them on the spot. 236 \ 00:21:04.730 --> 00:21:05.480 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay. 237 \ 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:16.889 \ David Faulkner: Let them get away with giving you a bland response in writing, saying, we're doing all we can, and, you know, it's, you know, it's the cost of living, and can't do this now, and we'll do it later, and… 238 \ 00:21:17.710 --> 00:21:19.800 \ David Faulkner: Yeah. That is not the message. 239 \ 00:21:20.610 --> 00:21:30.080 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right. There's a couple of things, thanks, I'll come to you in a minute, Sean. We've got a couple of things in the chat about what about political parties? Have they responded to it? And, 240 \ 00:21:30.470 --> 00:21:44.699 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: David's saying in Oxfordshire we'd like to bring candidates from other parties, as well as the MP, to a screening. That's an interesting approach. I don't know if there's been any official responses from the main political party of the firm. Of course, it was only launched, yesterday. 241 \ 00:21:44.800 --> 00:21:50.870 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I'm not aware, unless anybody knows any different, that there hasn't been any official responses from anybody yet. 242 \ 00:21:51.210 --> 00:21:53.550 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Sean, you've got your hand up, mate, and then we'll come… 243 \ 00:21:53.550 --> 00:21:58.680 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): So, I'm Sean McCarthy, I'm from Wendover in Buckinghamshire, a small 244 \ 00:21:58.850 --> 00:22:09.929 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): town, just outside Aylesbury. We've got a lot of activity here of different groups, but I also contribute to the, local newspaper. 245 \ 00:22:10.050 --> 00:22:25.659 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And we find that actually having somebody… and it's a tiny newspaper, the Wendover News, circulation of 5,000, or something like that. However, that does mean that our local MP, Greg Smith, actually, likes to… 246 \ 00:22:25.660 --> 00:22:42.279 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): I don't want to over-egg it, but sort of likes to keep us on side, if you see what I mean, that he will respond, to the newspaper, because we could put a… and we haven't, but we could put a big picture of him on the front page, saying. 247 \ 00:22:42.470 --> 00:22:48.569 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): you know, whatever he didn't want us to repeat. But, I'm just thinking of using leverage. 248 \ 00:22:48.630 --> 00:23:07.380 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): From, local media, maybe the bigger newspapers, the Bucks Herald would be the sort of next level up, and et cetera, et cetera. But the MPs… we're very fortunate he has his surgery in our village as well, so, he's the Conservative MP for Mid-Bucks. 249 \ 00:23:07.460 --> 00:23:16.339 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And… but he actually does well by working with the Labour MP from Northbucks, and we can get them both together. 250 \ 00:23:16.340 --> 00:23:30.560 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And they try and outdo each other in their green credentials, which is quite useful as well. So, I totally agree with what Alan says, a bit of homework beforehand. What's their interest? This particular one is from farming. 251 \ 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:38.580 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): stock. I'm not sure what the… what the lady in Aylesbury's from. But yeah, so, yeah, play… 252 \ 00:23:38.830 --> 00:23:42.089 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): play them… Almost at their own game, by… 253 \ 00:23:42.090 --> 00:23:42.780 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Things look like. 254 \ 00:23:42.780 --> 00:23:51.610 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): you know, it's a bit like fishing, really, isn't it? But certainly, using local media is quite useful, and that could be Facebook or, 255 \ 00:23:51.620 --> 00:24:04.910 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): WhatsApp, or whatever it is, because they have to be cognizant of what people are saying there. They can't ignore it, but they will ignore emails, and even surgery, I think they'll ignore, to be honest, nowadays. 256 \ 00:24:05.370 --> 00:24:06.359 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Just a thought. 257 \ 00:24:06.650 --> 00:24:14.950 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Thanks for that, Sean. Fascinating how you can get the Labour and Tories together. Yeah. Kirsten! Kirsten, you've got a hand up, yeah. 258 \ 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:30.580 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: Yeah, just to follow in up on that, actually, the point I was going to make, we're a community, about 4,000 population, rural community, and we do have a local Gazette that gets published every month. 259 \ 00:24:30.580 --> 00:24:37.489 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: So, I was thinking any other rural communities of a similar ilk that have a small, paper. 260 \ 00:24:37.490 --> 00:24:48.729 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: Whether or not they've got a reporter that goes out and actually records the event and finds out people's reaction, then writes an article about it, might be a really good way of 261 \ 00:24:48.730 --> 00:24:58.390 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: Trying to engage those that perhaps aren't on social media, the harder-to-reach groups, perhaps within the parish, that will read a physical copy of a 262 \ 00:24:58.390 --> 00:25:14.919 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: local magazine, news, news from the village, will sit and read a physical copy, but won't look at social media. So, I think, actually, as a result of this meeting and listening to the other contributors, I think that would be a really good way, trying to get 263 \ 00:25:15.020 --> 00:25:21.939 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: the, the editor of the Gazette to come out and actually watch the film with the other members of the community. 264 \ 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:27.930 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: And get them to write. Whether or not it might be good press by press, you don't know how they're going to react, but… 265 \ 00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:43.270 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: Obviously, it does get the message out, possibly to those harder-to-reach groups for them to read in a, perhaps in a way that others, other methods might not work in, in sort of, traditional rural communities. 266 \ 00:25:43.910 --> 00:25:56.820 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Great, thank you so much for that. Yeah, this is exactly the… these are the kind of thoughts I was hoping that we could gather today and share as to how we might advise people around the nation who are going to be managing screenings as to how they might go forward for it. 267 \ 00:25:57.280 --> 00:26:03.510 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay, so I have got a presentation to cover through this, which has put a bit of background. Sorry, Rick, did you have your hand up? 268 \ 00:26:03.780 --> 00:26:08.099 \ Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): I did, but maybe I should wait until after your presentation? 269 \ 00:26:09.210 --> 00:26:16.340 \ Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): It depends what you're gonna say in your presentation, but… so the point, the broad point I'd like to make, and you tell me if I should make it now or later, is… 270 \ 00:26:16.550 --> 00:26:28.720 \ Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): we're thinking of taking a slightly different angle in terms of not so much focusing on influencing our MP, but focusing more on what can people in the audience do collectively. 271 \ 00:26:29.460 --> 00:26:38.030 \ Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): And that being the action to focus on as much as trying to influence our MP to vote the right way. 272 \ 00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:58.019 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Great. That's very much what I'm about to talk about as well, as you might be unsurprised to know, as we've been in touch for some time, and the great collaboration is very much about getting people to work together at local level, and how we can do these things. There is a space for campaigning, of course there is a space involving our MPs. 273 \ 00:26:58.020 --> 00:27:03.940 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But there's another opportunity to do stuff locally as well, so we can see how we get going with that. 274 \ 00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:08.139 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay, let me get this up, up to speed. 275 \ 00:27:14.070 --> 00:27:19.150 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Why is it that the, the zoom bars always get in the way of what you want to do with your screen? I don't know. 276 \ 00:27:19.690 --> 00:27:24.129 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You know you want to do. There you go. So… 277 \ 00:27:25.180 --> 00:27:37.149 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: People's Emergency Briefing, which is what they're calling the film, as opposed to the National Emergency Briefing, which is what the November showing. Local responses that help raise local resilience, because, 278 \ 00:27:37.270 --> 00:27:48.130 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: There is an opportunity, perhaps, to re-engage more people that have not been engaged before, but also there's a concern that people don't get so overly alarmed. 279 \ 00:27:48.410 --> 00:28:05.100 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: that they get a sort of negative reaction to it all. In terms of letting people know what's going on, there, of course, a lot of places are having floods, or that they've never had floods before, so there are, places where there are perhaps 280 \ 00:28:05.250 --> 00:28:19.600 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: already have experiencing some of the things that the buoyancy briefing is talking about, and therefore there will be already perhaps been some groups and activities happening in some parts of the country which are not happening in others. 281 \ 00:28:19.600 --> 00:28:27.949 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, in a way that people will have heard a certain amount of what's going on already, but it's going to be patches, isn't it, across the nation? 282 \ 00:28:28.780 --> 00:28:45.479 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Talking about resilience, which is also a very common phrase that's coming up in the numbers lately, harnessing local resources and expertise to help themselves, and I think this is, it's rather a bit wordy what the government has said there, but I think that's an, 283 \ 00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:49.199 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I like that part of what they've described there, is that how we can 284 \ 00:28:49.320 --> 00:28:57.269 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: if you like, help people to help themselves to prepare and respond from disruptive challenges. There are going to be more challenges, likely, as we go forward. 285 \ 00:28:57.660 --> 00:29:09.820 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And our lives. And my personal view is that the more we can get people used to speaking to each other and working together, with each other's groups, with the local parish and town council or whatever, then the better. 286 \ 00:29:10.540 --> 00:29:18.889 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So there we go. Just to give us an idea of what was said at the full November briefing, and I don't imagine all of this has been put in the film. 287 \ 00:29:19.070 --> 00:29:33.209 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We had different… 9 different experts talking, on November, and this is… the filming of that is available on their website. We've lost 53% of our biodiversity in this country. I think we've… enough people will know about that. 288 \ 00:29:33.760 --> 00:29:40.220 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The climate, peak has said, we keep burning fossil fuels, temperatures will keep rising, understand. 289 \ 00:29:40.660 --> 00:29:52.260 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: UK getting wetter in winter and faster than models predicted. That was the… these are just… these are just, elements from this summary of… the published summary of what the speaker said in November. 290 \ 00:29:52.640 --> 00:30:07.259 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Biggest risk, the fail of the ocean current that keeps the UK's climate mild. I went to a presentation last year, and scientists were saying, once the Arctic ice totally melts, then the equilibrium in the North Atlantic will change. 291 \ 00:30:07.260 --> 00:30:20.419 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And we won't be getting… we won't be coming a temperate nation anymore. We're pretty much the same latitude as parts of Canada, and we'll be getting still heat waves in the summer, but we're getting a lot worse winters. 292 \ 00:30:20.420 --> 00:30:39.870 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And we'll also lose a certain number of food growing days as well. So that's what was the point was being said there. Food security, again, we're importing much of our food. We had heat waves in Spain and North Africa last year, which reduced the number of salad crops available in our supermarkets, and apparently we're going to expect the same today, and they've had floods. 293 \ 00:30:39.910 --> 00:30:45.869 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So there's things to talk about. Health person said, you know, if we… rather than 294 \ 00:30:46.300 --> 00:30:59.100 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: pandemics or other issues, the breakdown of our health systems will be the biggest risk to consider. There was a point made about national security, cascading crisis, overwhelming government systems. 295 \ 00:30:59.340 --> 00:31:09.150 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Economics clinging to the status quo delays change. These are just some of the headlines from the briefing that was given in November. 296 \ 00:31:09.150 --> 00:31:21.549 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: in Westminster Hall. So, those things alone, I don't think all of them were put quite so bluntly, perhaps, in the finished film, but those are the sorts of things that are out there already. 297 \ 00:31:23.310 --> 00:31:36.970 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, what I'll do then, for those of us who may not have seen the trailer, I'm just gonna… I'll put it on the screen, we can just see it only takes about a minute. And then we can… we can see it. Here's the bit on the… 298 \ 00:31:37.150 --> 00:31:41.370 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: On the films is the website's, 299 \ 00:31:41.710 --> 00:31:56.199 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: for the film on screen. Various bits of advice there and guidance about how we could do that. Here's the teaser trailer, the PG version, and you'll see why in a minute. It only takes about a minute. Here we go. 300 \ 00:31:56.650 --> 00:31:57.139 \ Alastair boyd: Pretty good. 301 \ 00:31:57.140 --> 00:32:05.550 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Scientists say the environmental crisis needs a response similar to the scale of the Second World War. 302 \ 00:32:06.270 --> 00:32:07.120 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Mr. President. 303 \ 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:12.880 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We are in the thick of a crisis. We all have to act. 304 \ 00:32:13.040 --> 00:32:13.940 \ Alastair boyd: suicide Day. 305 \ 00:32:13.940 --> 00:32:28.219 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: It's getting worse fast, and we're not prepared. I'm scared for my own life and future, and I'm absolutely terrified for that of my son. We're facing the potential of an ungovernable state. It could make our country uninhabitable. 306 \ 00:32:28.590 --> 00:32:30.350 \ Alastair boyd: Special than anyone else. 307 \ 00:32:30.350 --> 00:32:48.170 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Oh my goodness. The physics don't care about the politics. You're being taken for a fool, my friend. There are plenty of solutions out there. Solutions that will make life better. The burning question is, what can we do to make them happen? 308 \ 00:32:48.170 --> 00:32:48.840 \ Alastair boyd: Guests. 309 \ 00:32:49.050 --> 00:32:49.600 \ Alastair boyd: Nomination. 310 \ 00:32:49.600 --> 00:32:54.010 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: It's absolutely bonkers. I mean, it's ridiculous. 311 \ 00:32:54.010 --> 00:32:55.200 \ Alastair boyd: adaptation. 312 \ 00:32:55.700 --> 00:32:56.070 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Say. 313 \ 00:32:56.070 --> 00:33:00.180 \ Alastair boyd: We hesitated, which is odd, considering my early incoming. 314 \ 00:33:00.350 --> 00:33:04.320 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You can see, where are we? 315 \ 00:33:04.630 --> 00:33:04.885 \ Alastair boyd: Jesus. 316 \ 00:33:05.140 --> 00:33:15.190 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I think we can see where the, where the PG version came in. Thank you, Jennifer Saunders. I've just paused the screening for the moment. 317 \ 00:33:15.380 --> 00:33:26.000 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: They… I was encouraged by that trailer, that they were going to talk about local action things to do, but, David and Sheila, that doesn't seem to come through in the full film. 318 \ 00:33:28.110 --> 00:33:30.500 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So that's, that's interesting. 319 \ 00:33:30.820 --> 00:33:33.380 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay, we're good. 320 \ 00:33:33.380 --> 00:33:36.050 \ David Faulkner: Well, I'll just reiterate, if I can, D. 321 \ 00:33:36.210 --> 00:33:40.619 \ David Faulkner: I think the aim of the film is to give you something to… 322 \ 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:44.580 \ David Faulkner: Help with local action, but the main purpose of it is for 323 \ 00:33:44.730 --> 00:33:51.740 \ David Faulkner: to make some serious change at the top. You're not going to get… we're never going to get to where we want to get to by taking lots of local action. 324 \ 00:33:52.080 --> 00:33:55.359 \ David Faulkner: We have to take local action to support government action. 325 \ 00:33:55.850 --> 00:33:59.340 \ David Faulkner: So his local action's a must, but it's not going to do it on its own. 326 \ 00:34:00.700 --> 00:34:06.460 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yes, we need… it's a whole… we need every level to be engaged. 327 \ 00:34:06.460 --> 00:34:06.940 \ David Faulkner: Alfinity. 328 \ 00:34:06.940 --> 00:34:09.190 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That is how we can do things locally. 329 \ 00:34:09.709 --> 00:34:10.479 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: particular. 330 \ 00:34:11.300 --> 00:34:21.999 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: I think what I took from it was that they are asking the government to go into an emergency response, as they did in COVID. 331 \ 00:34:23.020 --> 00:34:25.999 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: And… take things centrally. 332 \ 00:34:27.340 --> 00:34:27.980 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right. 333 \ 00:34:27.989 --> 00:34:32.049 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: So that people have to do things to a degree. 334 \ 00:34:33.710 --> 00:34:39.960 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay. Well, it'll be fascinating to see what kind of responses we get from government in due course. Okay. 335 \ 00:34:40.670 --> 00:34:57.450 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay, so that's where we are with that. Thank you for that. Here's a picture that I took this morning of where the current screenings are. As you can see, there's lots of them happening around the nation already. There's about 500 that have already been booked, apparently, but there's another 700 inquiries. 336 \ 00:34:57.450 --> 00:35:05.479 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, over the period of the summer, I expect we're seeing these more and more. And certainly, if in our own areas, if there are people that are 337 \ 00:35:05.750 --> 00:35:16.460 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You know, if we're not showing a screening ourselves, there may be other people in our parish, town, or area that's doing that, so we may need to be thinking about how we get involved and prepare for that in any case. 338 \ 00:35:16.650 --> 00:35:17.940 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So there we are. 339 \ 00:35:18.410 --> 00:35:27.549 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So the question then is, what about next steps? We understand about, involving our MP, we understand about getting our MP to, 340 \ 00:35:27.550 --> 00:35:41.930 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: campaign within government, or at government, to make some response. There is a facilitation guide that, for screeners that the National Emergency Briefing Team, the AV team, have put out. 341 \ 00:35:42.090 --> 00:35:49.219 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: They're talking about a next steps guide, which is going to be helpful about what people do after the screening. That hasn't yet been published. 342 \ 00:35:49.240 --> 00:36:07.830 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You'll see something on the left there that the Climate Emergency Network, who have also been closely engaged with the National Emergency Briefing, team, have been putting out already in terms of getting together with, organize, having local assemblies, building resilient networks, and so forth, which is very much in line with their, 343 \ 00:36:07.890 --> 00:36:17.970 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: ethos as Climate Emergency Centres. So that's already being promoted around that network, and they're looking to have more climate emergency networks around the country. 344 \ 00:36:18.290 --> 00:36:38.290 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Certainly, in terms of people screening the film, some people will, as we've already heard, some people have already been engaged in climate action and nature recovery. Some will have never faced the issues before, or again, as somebody else has already said, being too busy with their own issues. Some people are really having to keep, spend a lot of time and effort keeping body and soul together with their families. 345 \ 00:36:38.900 --> 00:36:51.879 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: If we're going to involve people in different groups and different organizations in our area, we have to think about that, you know, one message is not… the same message is not necessarily going to reach them all. We have to think about what messages that we can share with them, how we can reach them. 346 \ 00:36:52.170 --> 00:37:07.270 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And audiences will need to be offered a pathway, somehow, to feel empowered to take action together. You know, rather, obviously, once you've written to your MP, that's one thing. What else can we do collectively? So that's the sort of thing about the next steps guy that I would like to see. I haven't seen it yet. 347 \ 00:37:07.700 --> 00:37:15.310 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So my question was really for today, what extra support can we offer? And this is very much speaking with a great collaboration hat on. 348 \ 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:20.529 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Certainly, for screeners, we would say, find out what a local action is already happening. 349 \ 00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:33.910 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And because that's important to know, and invite those people along to, the screening. If there are local group leaders, we're talking about different nations, sorry, different interests, different groups. 350 \ 00:37:33.910 --> 00:37:50.830 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: whether it's church groups, WI special interests, sports clubs, Rotary Club, you name it. If people are going to work together collectively, there needs to be local leadership, so people that are already leading local groups are probably well worth inviting along to a screening, as well as people already doing things. 351 \ 00:37:51.050 --> 00:37:58.520 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The one thing advice that has come out of the National Emergency Briefing Team is, yes, collect some names, have a follow-up meeting. 352 \ 00:37:58.870 --> 00:38:14.220 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: As to what people might be doing next. So that's the one bit of guidance which is already available from the NEB team, so that seems to be very sensible, not just treat it as a one-off, let's have some other things that follow on. They have produced a facilitation guide for a process on the day. 353 \ 00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:31.109 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: If we're going to get people to come to a future meeting and get engaged, you can have our hands in the air, you can have people signing up, there's different ways you can be doing it, maybe a WhatsApp group or whatever, but collect details of people at these screenings so that we've got a group of people to go forward. 354 \ 00:38:31.110 --> 00:38:45.829 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And then those people that have organized the screening, those people need to… are engaged in future action, need to prepare follow-up and subsequent meetings. So that's the sort of advice that we might give, which I'm prepared to give already to, putting out to people who are screening. 355 \ 00:38:45.910 --> 00:38:57.329 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I'll be sending this out around the Parish and Town Council network shortly. I did really want to see the NEB team's own Next Steps Guide before I did that, but it's not been available just yet. 356 \ 00:38:57.630 --> 00:39:00.880 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So my question is, is it enough? 357 \ 00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:03.720 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: To just offer pathways to action. 358 \ 00:39:04.520 --> 00:39:10.619 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: This is something that very much that Great Collaboration has been doing, certainly very much that Carbon Copy has been engaged in. 359 \ 00:39:11.590 --> 00:39:18.200 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: is that enough at this stage? Do we need to be… more… 360 \ 00:39:19.070 --> 00:39:25.620 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Do we need to speak differently, rather than just saying to people, there are things that you could be doing, and it's working well in other places? 361 \ 00:39:26.010 --> 00:39:30.659 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So that's… that's a bit of a question to me, because I don't know, 362 \ 00:39:31.600 --> 00:39:41.579 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: about yourselves, but being told to do something doesn't always sit well with me. But how do we do these things, get more people engaged? We have produced our own 10-minute film. 363 \ 00:39:43.560 --> 00:39:56.060 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: keep that thought for a minute, David, because we'll stop and have a chat shortly. We have produced our own 10-minute film as to what people might be doing subsequent to the meeting, and I can show you that a bit later. 364 \ 00:39:56.130 --> 00:40:04.930 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But what we're saying to people is, you know, look around your area, connect with local people, of course, local evidence of what might be done, local opportunities, local ideas. 365 \ 00:40:05.090 --> 00:40:20.669 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Say that you're going to be doing something. It doesn't necessarily mean declaring an emergency, but certainly from a town or parish council's point of view, say that there is something happening that you're doing, because that's important for people to know and possibly join in with. Say, start with something simple at the local level. 366 \ 00:40:21.460 --> 00:40:37.360 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: planning applications are coming forward with all kinds of issues that may or may not have taken account of the environment, and we all, as far and parish councillors, have to respond to those applications, so to be thoughtful about what they're saying, not just about biodiversity, but about other issues as well. 367 \ 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:42.199 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Work with other people, and certainly share good practice with others as we're developing things locally. 368 \ 00:40:42.330 --> 00:40:45.030 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So that's the sort of summary steps that we ought to be seeing. 369 \ 00:40:46.030 --> 00:40:48.130 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But what else? 370 \ 00:40:49.420 --> 00:40:55.509 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Communication's important, yeah. Keep calm and work differently is the best idea I've come up with so far. 371 \ 00:40:55.860 --> 00:40:58.380 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But… but what are the messages? Because… 372 \ 00:40:58.620 --> 00:41:01.660 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You know, we… the same message won't reach everybody. 373 \ 00:41:01.820 --> 00:41:16.179 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We can offer practical support to Community Climate Action, provide climate action workshops. Climate Psychology Alliance are doing some workshops on how to help with people who have come to these screenings, from different backgrounds and different concerns. 374 \ 00:41:16.180 --> 00:41:27.920 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: and be thoughtful about the people element of people turning up, and what to do, be alert to that. So that's an interesting contribution. They also do a sort of a train-the-trainer program. 375 \ 00:41:28.220 --> 00:41:37.220 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: If we're going to offer practical support, you know, 500 filming screenings already, if people are going to take up the offer of… 376 \ 00:41:37.450 --> 00:41:50.090 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: our offer of support, then we're prepared to meet the demand. But what else, you know, we've given a quick gallop through what we might be doing, we've had a talk about it. I'm going to stop, sharing again, and see what else might 377 \ 00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:58.799 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: be done to support people who have seen the film. David, you had your hand up a second ago. What was it you wanted to share? 378 \ 00:41:59.730 --> 00:42:06.560 \ David Faulkner: It was only because I think at the time you had a slide up, and we were talking about the carrot or the stick. 379 \ 00:42:06.560 --> 00:42:07.200 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yep. 380 \ 00:42:07.200 --> 00:42:12.649 \ David Faulkner: And it was just a reflection of something that was in the film, there were… 381 \ 00:42:13.350 --> 00:42:17.319 \ David Faulkner: The last couple of presentations were to do with the, 382 \ 00:42:17.630 --> 00:42:26.849 \ David Faulkner: you know, the economy and the energy transition progress and such like, and they were… they were quite pos… they came at… they ended on quite a positive note, that 383 \ 00:42:27.080 --> 00:42:29.899 \ David Faulkner: You know, how cheap renewable energy is. 384 \ 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:37.620 \ David Faulkner: Compared to fossil fuels, and how cheap it is compared to having oil price shocks that we're currently going through. 385 \ 00:42:38.860 --> 00:42:45.140 \ David Faulkner: But they did go… and then they said how fast the advancement was going. They seemed to be making a case that 386 \ 00:42:45.540 --> 00:42:50.669 \ David Faulkner: you know, wind and solar and EV take-up was faster than expected. 387 \ 00:42:51.330 --> 00:43:02.149 \ David Faulkner: But they made… there was a comment, and it… it wasn't driven home, but it did say we could accelerate this further by mandating some of this stuff, so that's presumably to do with… 388 \ 00:43:02.690 --> 00:43:07.640 \ David Faulkner: Potentially planning, building regulations, for instance. 389 \ 00:43:08.180 --> 00:43:13.490 \ David Faulkner: maybe bringing back the EV Target, But… 390 \ 00:43:13.600 --> 00:43:22.349 \ David Faulkner: I think disappeared, then, you know, to bring it on… it's already happening faster than they thought, so just make it happen even faster, I think. 391 \ 00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:27.489 \ David Faulkner: It wasn't very specific, though. I don't know if Sheila can remember anything more about that particular point. 392 \ 00:43:29.620 --> 00:43:30.460 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Hila? 393 \ 00:43:31.910 --> 00:43:34.319 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: I think what you've said is… 394 \ 00:43:34.490 --> 00:43:45.450 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: absolutely accurate, and I don't think it was specified, but I felt the film did end on a positive note, that there are things that can be done. 395 \ 00:43:45.750 --> 00:43:48.630 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: So, we just need to do more lobbying. 396 \ 00:43:48.940 --> 00:43:54.190 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: We need a lobbying group that is, as, as, 397 \ 00:43:54.490 --> 00:43:58.799 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Impressive as the oil lobbying group, because we need to counter them. 398 \ 00:44:00.980 --> 00:44:01.630 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right. 399 \ 00:44:01.630 --> 00:44:04.040 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Although they are rich and we are not. 400 \ 00:44:04.640 --> 00:44:07.040 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Maybe to be honest. I know. 401 \ 00:44:07.040 --> 00:44:08.830 \ David Faulkner: We're even richer now. 402 \ 00:44:09.050 --> 00:44:10.160 \ Sheila Hawkins, Broadwindsor, Dorset: Yeah. 403 \ 00:44:10.160 --> 00:44:12.979 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: This is trouble, yeah. They are richer. 404 \ 00:44:13.240 --> 00:44:13.850 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah. 405 \ 00:44:14.310 --> 00:44:15.730 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Graham, you've got your hand up, mate. 406 \ 00:44:15.980 --> 00:44:29.129 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): I had several points following your presentation and what David's been saying, and I'm going to ask Kirsten Rayner to cover her ears, because she's going to go pink with embarrassment. But, 407 \ 00:44:29.720 --> 00:44:39.630 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): We've seen in various banter sessions that volunteering is far more powerful than getting people to come along and do what they're told to do. 408 \ 00:44:39.680 --> 00:44:40.960 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): And, 409 \ 00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:59.679 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): I think that if you've got enough people interested at the screening, then to follow up with something along the lines of a community climate action plan, where you get the community together, they've seen the film, so now what do they want to do about it? And they determine what is to be done, 410 \ 00:44:59.680 --> 00:45:14.430 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): And that's much more likely to get volunteers who will actually participate, rather than saying, we need to have this, we need to have that, and who's going to do it? I don't think that's the right way. So just a volunteer show, I suggest, is a useful follow-up. 411 \ 00:45:14.560 --> 00:45:30.660 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): And to produce a plan of action by people volunteering ideas, and then taking their ideas and saying, okay, let's go with this one or that one. Your idea of going with something simple but positive first. And then the… 412 \ 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:39.429 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): David was suggesting that community energy with solar and so forth was a great idea. And the… 413 \ 00:45:40.150 --> 00:45:57.689 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Gambling Gay Parish is the one that we hold up as a master of what you should be doing in your climate action and environmental action, and they put in a wind turbine back in 2013, and since then, it's been contributing 10% of all of its 414 \ 00:45:57.690 --> 00:46:09.339 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): profits to the local community for environmental grants, so that the community is supporting itself through its community energy plan, which I think is sheer genius. 415 \ 00:46:09.340 --> 00:46:24.379 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): And it's probably why Gambling Gay is so far ahead in achieving their goals. Because there's always… people always need money, whether it's 50 pounds to pay for printing posters, or £500 to raise a whatever. 416 \ 00:46:24.380 --> 00:46:32.690 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): But if you've got the money being generated by your own community energy plant, then I think that makes a colossal difference. 417 \ 00:46:32.850 --> 00:46:38.629 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): And just so people know that we're working with, people on 418 \ 00:46:39.170 --> 00:46:54.950 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): how do you manage to find local users for your community energy? So, just popping back into the grid is not a brilliant idea, because in many cases, the grid isn't ready for you yet. So, if you can come up with ways of getting 419 \ 00:46:54.950 --> 00:47:02.110 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Directly local people to take the energy that you're generating from your rooftop solar, or whatever. 420 \ 00:47:02.110 --> 00:47:10.680 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Then that is very positive, because people see their costs being reduced, and money really does make a big difference to people, particularly in these days. 421 \ 00:47:11.020 --> 00:47:21.290 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): And just as one example of how efficient these systems are getting now, we have got 136 houses 422 \ 00:47:21.420 --> 00:47:36.319 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): threatening with being developed locally, and they're each coming with proper insulation, they're each going to have solar, cells on their roofs, and they each are going to have a heat pump. So the, 423 \ 00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:51.530 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Consensus is without doubt that this development will be generating far more electricity that they themselves need, and that therefore we need to put into place plans for sending the electricity that they're generating 424 \ 00:47:51.530 --> 00:47:58.079 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): To the next-door neighborhood development that didn't have those ideas and hasn't got. 425 \ 00:47:59.430 --> 00:48:17.210 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): those facilities, so that if you reduce their energy costs, then hopefully you can persuade people to retrofit their insulation, to get their costs down further, and generally you're spreading good all over the place, just by virtue of having produced your own energy. So that idea, David, I thought was a great one. 426 \ 00:48:17.210 --> 00:48:22.790 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): And I'm going to shut up, because Kristin's got to come and deny everything I've said. 427 \ 00:48:22.790 --> 00:48:40.719 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I don't know about that. There is a cross-party, in terms of lobbying, a cross-party parliamentary group, campaign has been for some time to make it that it's easier for people to generate electricity and sell it locally, which at the moment, it's quite complicated. But, Kirsten, what did you want to add into what Graeme said? 428 \ 00:48:41.870 --> 00:48:46.659 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: Yeah, sorry, I've got problems with my camera at the moment. Can you still hear me okay? 429 \ 00:48:46.660 --> 00:48:48.390 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, I thought you were just hiding your blushes. 430 \ 00:48:48.390 --> 00:48:58.470 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: No, no, that's lovely. Thanks very much for the kind words, Graham. At the moment, the power does go back to the national grid. 431 \ 00:48:58.470 --> 00:49:12.919 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: So we haven't actually… we're not using our own power, but the profits basically come back to the community. The greatest thing that's achieved in the last, 10 years recently is, obviously, it's funded, solar panels 432 \ 00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:19.129 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: on another community building within the village. So we now have battery storage and solar panels on a small 433 \ 00:49:19.130 --> 00:49:28.389 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: community building, which is used as a preschool, and I've just been looking today at the wonderful sun that is happening, and the energy's been created and going back to the grid. 434 \ 00:49:28.390 --> 00:49:45.970 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: Which is obviously making that building more sustainable. So, that's a real positive story. I just wanted to mention something else that just popped into my mind as these things do. Obviously, in the areas in the country where we've got local government reorganization, there's going to be whole new councils being created in the next. 435 \ 00:49:45.990 --> 00:49:55.039 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: 6 to 18 months, and it may be a good idea to try and come up with some kind of, manifesto 436 \ 00:49:55.080 --> 00:50:09.489 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: As a result of the national emergency briefing, that we want these new councillors to be able to uphold and use, potentially, in our local areas to support our local community. So, that might be something that could come out of this 437 \ 00:50:09.560 --> 00:50:22.080 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: process, to actually, come up with something that we would like from a local area, that can be used, obviously, nationally, from our new councillors, so it was just an idea. 438 \ 00:50:23.040 --> 00:50:27.520 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And I think the turbine's currently generating about £10,000 a year. 439 \ 00:50:27.630 --> 00:50:29.299 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: For local projects, which is. 440 \ 00:50:29.300 --> 00:50:43.649 \ Kirstin Rayner Gamlingay and GC: Yeah, that's it, yeah, and lots go into, we've had a pocket park, about 5,000 trees go in, we've had lots of hedge planting, and lots of, environmental projects as a result. So, yeah, it's been fantastic. 441 \ 00:50:43.650 --> 00:50:49.130 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Great. I've got three hands in the air. If we go Alistair, then Rick, then Piers. Alastair, would you like to go first? 442 \ 00:50:49.310 --> 00:50:58.539 \ Alastair boyd: Isn't the way of grabbing people's attention the risk of damage to their Health, wealth, and family security 443 \ 00:50:58.740 --> 00:51:01.480 \ Alastair boyd: Likely to get their attention rather than anything else? 444 \ 00:51:01.650 --> 00:51:02.490 \ Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - Bembridge (now): Hmm. 445 \ 00:51:02.490 --> 00:51:03.979 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right, okay. 446 \ 00:51:05.490 --> 00:51:18.930 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That's right. I think this is getting into the detail of how we reach people and how we engage them, post the film, because the film perhaps doesn't say those things quite clearly, but as you say, that's going to sit well with some people. 447 \ 00:51:18.930 --> 00:51:19.839 \ David Faulkner: that very clearly. 448 \ 00:51:20.200 --> 00:51:22.890 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The well-being of their families, indeed, yeah. 449 \ 00:51:23.340 --> 00:51:26.889 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay, thanks, Alyssa, and that's… I made that note. Rick? 450 \ 00:51:27.420 --> 00:51:30.769 \ Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): Yeah, different points, which is, 451 \ 00:51:31.130 --> 00:51:44.609 \ Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): us wanting to offer up another resource, I think the knowledge base is a useful place for people to go, and I know you're building that out. Yep. One of the things that we have done very recently is 452 \ 00:51:44.830 --> 00:52:02.509 \ Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): we've done a big piece of research on an action guide that helps, people that want to work collectively together, to… it's the how they can do so other than the what. So, to your point around the next steps are going to come out of discussions that people have locally. 453 \ 00:52:02.820 --> 00:52:20.460 \ Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): And then they'll decide… and then those people that are ready to act will want to do so. Hopefully that'll be, involving people from different groups, you know, local councils, as well as maybe some companies, as well as some community groups. But how do you get, those groups to work effectively together? 454 \ 00:52:20.700 --> 00:52:25.919 \ Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): And this is an action guide, to help those people that are ready to take that next step. 455 \ 00:52:26.200 --> 00:52:39.520 \ Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): So, would love for that to just be added to the knowledge base for those people that want to then do something, above and beyond the political pressure applied to your local MP. 456 \ 00:52:39.870 --> 00:52:42.149 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Can you drop the link in, Rick? 457 \ 00:52:42.370 --> 00:52:44.910 \ Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): Yeah, I'll put it in the chat, yeah. 458 \ 00:52:44.910 --> 00:52:46.929 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Does the change print, 459 \ 00:52:46.930 --> 00:52:52.969 \ Ric Casale, Carbon Copy (Windsor): It is, it's something that I shared in a banter session recently, but I'll put it in the link in the chat now. 460 \ 00:52:53.240 --> 00:52:54.030 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: So… 461 \ 00:52:54.240 --> 00:53:06.979 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Thank you very much, because that's… that's… those places that aren't already connected, and heaven knows government isn't joined up, very, very, very, very necessary. Thanks for that, Piers. Sorry, Piers, next. 462 \ 00:53:07.610 --> 00:53:12.570 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Thanks, everyone. It's been really interesting listening to some of your points. 463 \ 00:53:12.780 --> 00:53:18.829 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: I guess just, having… living in a parish that has a wind turbine that had, 464 \ 00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:29.650 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: community funds, I can, yeah, agree with… strongly with what, what, benefits that can bring to the community and be a sort of a… 465 \ 00:53:32.590 --> 00:53:43.360 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: light a match for other kind of important community action. The important thing is that it is community-owned, and unfortunately, the turbine in 466 \ 00:53:43.740 --> 00:53:46.939 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Our village was sold on. 467 \ 00:53:47.060 --> 00:53:56.549 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: And so the community benefit doesn't actually, exist anymore. But, I was just also thinking about 468 \ 00:53:56.700 --> 00:54:13.900 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: that leverage into how to get people involved in quite a lot of stuff, that when I used to work for the District Council, kind of, we do it for us to do in climate action is to talk about the shared benefits of climate action, so to frame it in what's relevant to people. It's obviously cost of living. 469 \ 00:54:14.210 --> 00:54:17.139 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Is a massive issue at the moment. 470 \ 00:54:17.750 --> 00:54:28.479 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: And I think, kind of, in those next steps, that's a really important way to pull in people beyond the usual suspects. 471 \ 00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:34.140 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: But what I was interested to ask those of you on the call was, 472 \ 00:54:36.170 --> 00:54:44.270 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: we're thinking about putting on a screening, but I've talked to other people in the area who are also kind of interested, and it struck me that 473 \ 00:54:44.570 --> 00:54:52.160 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Actually trying to put a… we'll put screenings on that are… 474 \ 00:54:52.390 --> 00:54:57.029 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Not being put on by any one organization or person. 475 \ 00:54:57.140 --> 00:55:14.749 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: But as a sort of a group of organisations, it seemed quite a sensible way to kind of approach it. So, it's a kind of… yeah, it's not coming from any one person who might be… or group that might be conceived to have a particular axe to grind, or… 476 \ 00:55:16.900 --> 00:55:17.540 \ Alastair boyd: What? Nothing. 477 \ 00:55:17.540 --> 00:55:24.210 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: That hopefully would widen, kind of, the number of people that, kind of, come along to your showing. 478 \ 00:55:24.940 --> 00:55:25.520 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yep. 479 \ 00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:32.979 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That sounds good. Does that sound good, everybody? That's not something that the NEV team themselves have majored on, but it's something we can certainly put out there. 480 \ 00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:33.940 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Hmm. 481 \ 00:55:33.940 --> 00:55:37.489 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Because then that's getting groups in… many different groups involved. 482 \ 00:55:37.490 --> 00:55:38.100 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Okay. 483 \ 00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:39.509 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: How about that? 484 \ 00:55:40.500 --> 00:55:41.540 \ Piers Cardiff (He/Him) - FODCAP: Yep. 485 \ 00:55:41.540 --> 00:55:44.579 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That idea, I think that sounds good. Sean, you've got your hand up, and then… 486 \ 00:55:44.580 --> 00:56:01.859 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yeah, and it actually follows from what Piers was saying, in that, I think the first thing you've got to do, which actually came up in that poster, was to identify the various stakeholders, not specifically for this topic, but identify all stakeholders, whether they're… 487 \ 00:56:01.860 --> 00:56:09.980 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): church groups, or whether they're, you know, whether they're looking at energy or whatever. 488 \ 00:56:10.050 --> 00:56:17.719 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): We're kind of fortunate in Wendover in that we've got HS2, digging up our, our village. 489 \ 00:56:17.890 --> 00:56:36.439 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And that's acted as an external threat for a whole range of different organizations, from the cricket club to the farmers to the… and that's gelled everyone to work together. I'm not suggesting that you encourage another HS2, but if you can identify something 490 \ 00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:44.800 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): That is external to your core aim, which might be growing food or whatever it is, and then getting 491 \ 00:56:45.010 --> 00:56:54.019 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): The various groups that you've identified in your stakeholder mapping, and then finding common ground with them. 492 \ 00:56:54.020 --> 00:57:06.100 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Whether it's, you know, one extreme it's the schools, or it's the cricket clubs, or it's, as I said, the farmers. Couple of other points, if I may, just briefly. 493 \ 00:57:06.770 --> 00:57:11.230 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And extending that, I had a meeting in Aylesbury. 494 \ 00:57:11.460 --> 00:57:26.730 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): town, one of the fastest growing towns in the country, the other day. They're, you know, 7 miles away from us. And they said, we know that you in Wendover and in Tame and all the other villages around them are doing their own thing. We're all kind of part of the Chiltons. 495 \ 00:57:26.730 --> 00:57:33.520 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): So there's a hierarchy, there's a layer. You've got Bucks Council, you've got Chilterns, you've got Parish Councils. 496 \ 00:57:33.590 --> 00:57:49.190 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And they said, we, as the town, hardly ever get involved or invited to these things. Yet we've got 70,000 people here, and we've got lots of people that would like to volunteer, but there's nothing for them to volunteer for here. 497 \ 00:57:49.190 --> 00:57:58.890 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): So my point is, we're a small village, others on the call tend, you know, tend to be small villages. Have a look at your local 498 \ 00:57:58.890 --> 00:58:06.820 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): town, and see how you can get them involved, because they've got actually huge resources, or may have huge resources of, 499 \ 00:58:06.820 --> 00:58:20.260 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): people and buildings and separate funding as well. Just… I've made a bit of a list, and I'll put them in the thing. We also showed, 6 inches of soil, which is about, 500 \ 00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:22.690 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Regenerative farming. 501 \ 00:58:23.240 --> 00:58:23.730 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right. 502 \ 00:58:23.730 --> 00:58:25.199 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And there's a massive overlap. 503 \ 00:58:25.250 --> 00:58:41.630 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): between that and resilience. So you've got another group coming together, and this is about showing… making people used to seeing these films. So, Six Inches of Farming, this particular one, you know, there'll be another one coming along later about something else, I don't know what it is. 504 \ 00:58:41.630 --> 00:58:45.799 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): But… but making it almost a campaign of… 505 \ 00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:55.389 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): informative films, will… will be important. And to that extent, I think showing the film once. 506 \ 00:58:55.610 --> 00:59:11.049 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): won't make much difference. I think you've got to keep repeating the message, because there will be people that weren't there that wanted to see it, and people forget things. And, you know, in sort of the advertising world, you've got to repeat it seven times. 507 \ 00:59:11.050 --> 00:59:20.940 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): I'm not suggesting showing the film 7 times, but maybe… maybe in seven different venues close. We got people coming in from Amersham, which is… 508 \ 00:59:20.950 --> 00:59:29.559 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): 10 miles away, to come and see 6 inches of soil in… in the village hall here. But… 509 \ 00:59:29.940 --> 00:59:38.139 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yeah, I think, I think banging on about the, banging on about the message continuously, don't be afraid. 510 \ 00:59:38.740 --> 00:59:44.050 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): not to keep repeating it. I think that's it. I'll shut up now. 511 \ 00:59:44.050 --> 00:59:53.729 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: No, that's handy. I'm delighted, by the way, people, that all the ideas that are coming forward is exactly what I was hoping for from this session. Alistair. 512 \ 00:59:54.200 --> 01:00:04.030 \ Alastair boyd: Is there anybody that's the possibility or consequence of war? We seem to be threatened by Russia through support of Ukraine. 513 \ 01:00:04.270 --> 01:00:09.500 \ Alastair boyd: So we're being threatened by Iran, by support of the Arab countries. 514 \ 01:00:09.700 --> 01:00:25.120 \ Alastair boyd: I don't know if this film or you've got something in mind to cover that, but I think it's something which should be thought about, even… I know it sounds terribly antiquated about civil defense, but at the moment something happened, I just wonder if anybody's actually put their heads together as to what they advise people to do. 515 \ 01:00:25.900 --> 01:00:29.159 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That's a good point. David, do you have your finger up, perhaps, in response to that? 516 \ 01:00:29.160 --> 01:00:34.090 \ David Faulkner: I'd just say that there was one of the, one of the talks was… 517 \ 01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:37.779 \ David Faulkner: Under the heading of National Security. 518 \ 01:00:38.230 --> 01:00:46.580 \ David Faulkner: Delivered by a Lieutenant General and it was one of the most… hard-hitting. 519 \ 01:00:47.570 --> 01:00:49.500 \ David Faulkner: Parts of the whole thing, really. 520 \ 01:00:49.670 --> 01:00:53.909 \ David Faulkner: it really… it's not one I'd seen before, because I've seen a lot of the 521 \ 01:00:54.290 --> 01:01:00.320 \ David Faulkner: Climate change, the weather, and the food security things, but the impact on national security 522 \ 01:01:00.950 --> 01:01:08.340 \ David Faulkner: This guy was just straight down. This is absolute emergency. National security is… 523 \ 01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:11.230 \ David Faulkner: A problem, on the basis that… 524 \ 01:01:11.770 --> 01:01:14.369 \ David Faulkner: As soon as you get a problem with the food system. 525 \ 01:01:14.850 --> 01:01:25.450 \ David Faulkner: we all revert to type, and we'll go and steal it from everybody else, and just like what happened to the loo paper in COVID. You know, as soon as there's a shortage of something. 526 \ 01:01:27.020 --> 01:01:33.409 \ David Faulkner: there'll be… insurrection on the streets. And, you know, he was absolutely… he… 527 \ 01:01:33.750 --> 01:01:38.759 \ David Faulkner: Right down the line, we've got a plan for this, you know, the forces need to be prepared. 528 \ 01:01:39.200 --> 01:01:45.229 \ David Faulkner: Because it's a poss… it's a distinct possibility, unless we… do something. 529 \ 01:01:46.090 --> 01:01:51.890 \ David Faulkner: So it was covered quite… it was quite hard-hitting, that… that bit, Alistair, in the film. 530 \ 01:01:51.890 --> 01:01:52.900 \ Alastair boyd: Only so. 531 \ 01:01:53.510 --> 01:01:54.040 \ David Faulkner: Bye. 532 \ 01:01:54.040 --> 01:01:56.490 \ Alastair boyd: Where do you see… Boom. Sorry? 533 \ 01:01:56.680 --> 01:01:58.419 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The same film, was it, David? 534 \ 01:01:58.420 --> 01:01:59.699 \ David Faulkner: The film we just… the film would be. 535 \ 01:01:59.700 --> 01:02:00.090 \ Alastair boyd: Twice it. 536 \ 01:02:00.090 --> 01:02:02.100 \ David Faulkner: Yeah, the briefing film. 537 \ 01:02:02.100 --> 01:02:02.700 \ Alastair boyd: Okay. 538 \ 01:02:02.700 --> 01:02:03.430 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah. Thank you. 539 \ 01:02:03.430 --> 01:02:09.260 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): just on that, all of the, all of the speeches, if you like, are on YouTube. 540 \ 01:02:09.260 --> 01:02:10.259 \ David Faulkner: Come see them all, yeah. 541 \ 01:02:10.560 --> 01:02:11.589 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): The original speech. 542 \ 01:02:11.590 --> 01:02:12.370 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yep, yeah. 543 \ 01:02:12.370 --> 01:02:20.560 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): I've just noticed that, GB News has a 3-hour thing on it. I don't know whether they've commented on it or not, but, 544 \ 01:02:20.910 --> 01:02:40.100 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): One thing, sorry about stakeholders. We've got RAF Halton next to us here, so if you've got a local MOD place near you, it is worth having a chat to them about what their contingencies are, and that's, we're on regular discussions with, MOD here. 545 \ 01:02:40.100 --> 01:02:49.860 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): slightly different place, they don't fly from there, it's more of a training center, so they're quite used to engaging with civilians in our neck of the woods, but there might be other… 546 \ 01:02:50.120 --> 01:02:52.890 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): other, MOD as stakeholders. 547 \ 01:02:54.200 --> 01:03:01.220 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I mean, I'd like to think, yes, in terms of civil defense, that's been crossing my mind a bit lately. How do we get people together on these occasions? 548 \ 01:03:01.220 --> 01:03:24.059 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: civil defense as a structure disappeared a long time ago. We haven't had any guidance lately about what happens in terms of nuclear attack, have we? I think the last time I remember seeing anything about that was, I think it was during the Cold War, I'm that old, and it was saying, you know, you hear that there's nuclear missiles saying, paint the insides of your windows with rancid milk, and I'm thinking. 549 \ 01:03:24.110 --> 01:03:41.680 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Well, that's an interesting one. Just the bit that struck me as odd at the time, and perhaps not very useful. Other people have said, you know, get yourself into a safe place and take some water with you, and so on, but that sort of advice, Alistair, hasn't been shared much lately at all for all kinds of reasons. 550 \ 01:03:42.200 --> 01:03:55.300 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Wow, yeah, I think, that my big thing is food security, and, there was, actually a big farming plan produced by a chap called Henry Dimbleby during the 551 \ 01:03:55.420 --> 01:04:09.460 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Boris Johnson Premiership, which went into quite a lot of detail about how we might look at these issues, particularly around farming, more effectively. As far as I'm aware, it's never been taken up and intended to be implemented. 552 \ 01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:20.909 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I know there are farmers, action for wildlife groups around the place. I don't know, have no connection with the National Farmers Union, as to what farmers in the mass are thinking about all of this, and whether they are 553 \ 01:04:21.170 --> 01:04:32.080 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: responding to certain people saying, oh, we should have more of a plant-based diet, you know, okay? But I think the issue about food is that we need food of different kinds, you know. 554 \ 01:04:32.210 --> 01:04:35.839 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: In a hurry. I remember reading once that, 555 \ 01:04:36.150 --> 01:04:47.630 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Winston Churchill apparently said the thing that really bothered him during the Second World War was the North Atlantic, about the supplies of food across the Atlantic. That was a bit the thing that really kept him more awake at night. 556 \ 01:04:47.870 --> 01:04:54.230 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We've been importing our food for a long time. We needed to import food in the First War, let alone the Second War. 557 \ 01:04:55.060 --> 01:04:55.890 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So then we… Sorry. 558 \ 01:04:55.890 --> 01:05:12.759 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): I forgot to put my hand up, but I've dropped something in the chat, which is the report that's just come out from Tim Lang, Professor Tim Lang, about… it's called Just In Case, Seven Steps to Narrow the UK's Civil Food Resilience Gap. 559 \ 01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:23.319 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): It's taking… the government does it at the large supply-side level, and it's saying, but we've missed what happens locally. 560 \ 01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:34.060 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And what happens individually, and what you can do about it. So that… there's the executive summary, but the actual report's 300 pages long. You might not have enough time to. 561 \ 01:05:34.060 --> 01:05:36.970 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I'm scared there is such a thing, yeah. 562 \ 01:05:36.970 --> 01:05:40.410 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Drop us the link, Sean, I'll have a bad time reading. 563 \ 01:05:40.410 --> 01:05:45.109 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): It is… it is in there, probably about the third link down, I think, hang on. 564 \ 01:05:45.110 --> 01:05:46.309 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Put it in the chat, Alan. 565 \ 01:05:46.310 --> 01:05:47.390 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): In the chat. 566 \ 01:05:47.390 --> 01:05:49.779 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: My apologies, I've missed over that then. 567 \ 01:05:51.750 --> 01:05:53.720 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Unless I didn't do it properly. 568 \ 01:05:54.560 --> 01:05:55.170 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): I understood. 569 \ 01:05:55.460 --> 01:05:56.860 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You wanted to say some more? 570 \ 01:05:56.860 --> 01:06:03.530 \ Alastair boyd: I am a farmer. Oh, good. I think you should be very, very worried about your food security. 571 \ 01:06:03.830 --> 01:06:10.749 \ Alastair boyd: The weather last year in the summertime, not only was it short of, forage for the winter. 572 \ 01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:14.440 \ Alastair boyd: Did it affect the conception of the cattle, the hot weather? 573 \ 01:06:14.590 --> 01:06:23.349 \ Alastair boyd: And, it's not only that, it's the economic and the government actions against us, it's a bit scary what's going on. A lot of people are getting very disheartened. 574 \ 01:06:23.740 --> 01:06:30.449 \ Alastair boyd: And, my son, he actually… he's 49, and I hope he's gonna… he's taken the place over for me as far as he can. 575 \ 01:06:30.640 --> 01:06:35.570 \ Alastair boyd: And, he put his head and hands about a month ago and said he has no way he's bothering. 576 \ 01:06:36.120 --> 01:06:42.880 \ Alastair boyd: Because he could, until they changed the tax laws, we were going to be landing out with a horrendous thing and having to sell the farm. 577 \ 01:06:43.060 --> 01:06:45.410 \ Alastair boyd: If I died within 7 years, so… 578 \ 01:06:45.730 --> 01:06:50.040 \ Alastair boyd: It's, the whole thing is a bit hairy in agriculture, and the food 579 \ 01:06:50.150 --> 01:06:57.440 \ Alastair boyd: You're relying on food coming from other countries. We were great for importing from Africa. Now China's got that tied up. 580 \ 01:06:57.830 --> 01:07:06.310 \ Alastair boyd: And we're now buying in, lamb from New Zealand, which has had to travel halfway across the world, and the cost of that, and the pollution. 581 \ 01:07:06.580 --> 01:07:22.579 \ Alastair boyd: They just, think you all on… just… you just can't go to a supermarket now and look behind the shelves. You'll see the front row of all the goods, and then behind there's empty spaces. It's just in time, I think. You should be very, very worried about what's gonna happen. Unless you're good with a can opener. 582 \ 01:07:23.270 --> 01:07:40.879 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right, indeed. I'm sure that concern. Thank you very much for the farming perspective, Alastair, because I don't have close links for the farming community, but it's great to have you on the call to think about that. In my parish, where I live in the Forest of Dean, there's a patch of land that, 583 \ 01:07:42.160 --> 01:07:53.650 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: is owned by the parish council that they're not doing anything with. And, you know, it'll be a drop in the ocean, perhaps, but maybe we could be growing some vegetables and stuff on that, at least for the less well-off in the community. 584 \ 01:07:53.650 --> 01:08:06.929 \ Alastair boyd: There's a lot of council houses in the village. They've got huge gardens, they're built in the 50s and 60s, and the whole idea was the chap had a family, grew it on the back of his garden, and grew most of the stuff for himself. 585 \ 01:08:07.170 --> 01:08:09.860 \ Alastair boyd: And now that it's just lawn. It's such a waste. 586 \ 01:08:10.220 --> 01:08:10.950 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right. 587 \ 01:08:11.050 --> 01:08:30.679 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): there's quite a strong move, well, around here in supporting and encouraging allotment and homegrowing and stuff. I mean, it's not going to solve the resilience. I mean, we will always need the farms to do the heavy lifting, but to do the sort of feeding in some of the high-value things. 588 \ 01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:32.850 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): I mean, like, bringing in 589 \ 01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:52.889 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): blueberries from Chile is ridiculous, you know, when they can be grown locally here. But we've got wild belts, in the region here, where we've got, you know, things being grown on that, and then that has honey, you know, bee things on it, and what have you. But, 590 \ 01:08:54.300 --> 01:09:00.580 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): What was I gonna say? Anyway, right, sorry, yeah, but yeah, food resilience has to be number one, I think. 591 \ 01:09:00.580 --> 01:09:06.550 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You know, I sometimes refer to myself as Mr. Allotments, because that's one of the few statutory duties that parish councils have got. 592 \ 01:09:06.590 --> 01:09:15.599 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And so, to encourage them looking at that. Another example of how we need to work at different levels, isn't it? More immediate local level. 593 \ 01:09:15.630 --> 01:09:32.679 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Certainly with the farmers, supporting them in many and various ways, and certainly it'd be nice to see if government can pay attention as well. And supermarkets aren't going to save us, are they? Not really. We'll be thinking about other ways of doing that. 594 \ 01:09:32.970 --> 01:09:34.100 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yep, yep. 595 \ 01:09:34.100 --> 01:09:34.920 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Wow. 596 \ 01:09:35.029 --> 01:09:41.880 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I've been making notes as well as we've been recording this session. I think we've had some great stuff today, very, very timely. 597 \ 01:09:44.090 --> 01:09:56.600 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: If you like, I can show you the 10-minute film we've created to go out on the back of the NEB film. I'm sure I can show you that. Has anybody else got any points they want to make straight away before I put that on screen? 598 \ 01:09:58.530 --> 01:10:02.700 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): My only quick question was, are you all linked into the Community Climate Action? 599 \ 01:10:02.810 --> 01:10:03.640 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): group. 600 \ 01:10:03.810 --> 01:10:06.119 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yes, yes, indeed. Yeah, Jules Thompson. Oh, God, yes. 601 \ 01:10:06.120 --> 01:10:07.280 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Shield, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah. 602 \ 01:10:07.280 --> 01:10:18.950 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Oh, yes! Very much so. John's been keen to express his, his Climate Action Workshop, capacity across the nation, so we'll see, see how we can get on with it. 603 \ 01:10:18.950 --> 01:10:23.420 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): I thought I recognized him in your, picture there, I'm not sure, but… 604 \ 01:10:23.420 --> 01:10:33.230 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay, let's see if I can get this, film up. And this is a 10-minute film. We did it… we had our own discussion about it, and we, 605 \ 01:10:33.620 --> 01:10:34.440 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Come on. 606 \ 01:10:34.580 --> 01:10:35.600 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: They're white. 607 \ 01:10:37.020 --> 01:10:43.079 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: What's happening here? Get rid of that, get rid of that, get rid of that. That's what we wanted. 608 \ 01:10:47.660 --> 01:10:48.600 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Oh, nice. 609 \ 01:10:51.270 --> 01:10:52.210 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Honestly. 610 \ 01:10:52.510 --> 01:10:56.520 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I had this all set up, and then it turned… you press a button, and it all disappeared. 611 \ 01:10:56.780 --> 01:10:58.150 \ Alastair boyd: Okay. 612 \ 01:10:59.220 --> 01:10:59.960 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Just a minute. 613 \ 01:10:59.960 --> 01:11:00.700 \ Alastair boyd: Yay. 614 \ 01:11:02.380 --> 01:11:02.970 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Come on. 615 \ 01:11:04.810 --> 01:11:05.680 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Let me see. 616 \ 01:11:07.090 --> 01:11:09.869 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Things work when you want it to, don't they? 617 \ 01:11:10.660 --> 01:11:13.129 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: It's a reasonable-sized file, Andrew. 618 \ 01:11:13.360 --> 01:11:20.010 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, no, let me stop… let me stop this for a minute, because I had it all lined up, and it disappeared. Right, I've got it already done. 619 \ 01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:25.389 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right, okay, here we go. 620 \ 01:11:25.970 --> 01:11:28.800 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Let's try again, shall we? Now then. 621 \ 01:11:32.360 --> 01:11:33.560 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: There we go. 622 \ 01:11:45.900 --> 01:11:56.969 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Hello, my name is Andrew Malifant from the Great Collaboration. We are a gathering of parish clerks, councillors, and local volunteers working around the country on environmental action and nature recovery. 623 \ 01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:00.310 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Many of you will see, or have already seen. 624 \ 01:12:00.590 --> 01:12:07.910 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: 45-minute film from the producers of the November's National Emergency Briefing about the crises the country is currently facing. 625 \ 01:12:08.250 --> 01:12:13.610 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Today, we're looking at what practical steps might be taken locally in response to that briefing. 626 \ 01:12:13.890 --> 01:12:19.590 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: This will, of course, mean working together with others in our community, and we'll be talking about that soon. 627 \ 01:12:19.790 --> 01:12:22.709 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: A lot of action needs to happen locally in any case. 628 \ 01:12:22.840 --> 01:12:28.839 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Here, for example, is a map of some local project and community orchards in East Anglia on display. 629 \ 01:12:29.070 --> 01:12:35.840 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So there's a lot of things that's already happening, and very much things that need to happen locally without any necessary government involvement. 630 \ 01:12:36.260 --> 01:12:42.169 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: A lot of places have recently had to deal with flooding that they've not had to deal with before, for example. 631 \ 01:12:43.450 --> 01:12:45.680 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: What matters most to our communities? 632 \ 01:12:46.170 --> 01:12:55.429 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: In the 1940s, a gentleman called Abram Maslow did a process of looking at what were the theories of… a theory of human motivation based on people's needs. 633 \ 01:12:55.610 --> 01:13:05.350 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And in order, the physical requirements, food, water, and shelter, are the top of the list, really. Because a lot of people in our parishes and towns are facing those issues every day as we speak. 634 \ 01:13:05.700 --> 01:13:18.729 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So what are the opportunities, then, that we have in our local areas for responding to these changes that are coming at us? I've highlighted B-squares, and when this presentation comes around, be able to click on that link and find out more about it. 635 \ 01:13:18.950 --> 01:13:29.539 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Bees and other pollinating insects need fuel to gather around the place to pollinate the plants and trees, which eventually end up providing us with a lot of our food. 636 \ 01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:35.859 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And in many places, bees are constrained by acres of tarmac and concrete. 637 \ 01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:48.340 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So planting bee squares and wildflowers in our own gardens is an easy way in which we might help improve the situation, support wildlife, and also indirectly help ourselves, because we benefit from more pollinated plants. 638 \ 01:13:48.340 --> 01:14:05.010 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So there's a number of things. Oh, looking then ahead, what can local councils do? We're looking at what people can do. What can local councils do on their own? There's going to be a separate piece of advice coming around, linking a whole host of things, but here are some examples of the things that we can do, and again, just been talking about allotments. 639 \ 01:14:05.330 --> 01:14:10.269 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: There are… there's a link there, and creating the allotments, the processes of how we do that. 640 \ 01:14:10.980 --> 01:14:14.970 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Now then, when we start getting together with residents, there's even more things we can do. 641 \ 01:14:15.100 --> 01:14:20.379 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Here, again, it's only a small sample. With a lot of places now having to face floods. 642 \ 01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:37.879 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And we have guidance available, through the Great Collaboration, carrying out a rapid flood risk assessment. What are the things that are available, likely to happen in our own area, which we might be able to help deal with through volunteers, rather than having to raise money for expensive flood defences? 643 \ 01:14:38.320 --> 01:14:41.489 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, we're going to involve the community, well, how do we do that? 644 \ 01:14:42.120 --> 01:14:59.810 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We're looking ahead now to having this NEB, the National Emergency Briefing film, and I think having a public meeting following on from that film is the best idea we've heard so far. So when we have a screening of the film, there'll be some guidance, which we're looking to develop, and hopefully also from the NEB team itself. 645 \ 01:14:59.890 --> 01:15:16.870 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But if we can say at our screenings, yes, in a month's time, there'll be another meeting to talk about community action, what we're going to do, come on down. So that's something we can strongly recommend going forward. But once we have that meeting, we can start talking about getting local working groups getting together to keep the initiatives happening. 646 \ 01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:42.919 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Today, we've been in Colchester at first sight, which is amazing, delivering a workshop, trying to help the community to come together around what kinds of action they can take locally to improve energy resilience, really, and to make sure that their community has got what it needs in the face of the changing climate. Connecting people together is a really important starting point, and hopefully we can, yeah, take something forward and build something. Just starting that conversation is a really important thing, starting that conversation 647 \ 01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:47.890 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: In a pub, at a parish meeting or something like that, just to get it out in the open. 648 \ 01:15:47.890 --> 01:15:53.129 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That's what we're all about. It's community climate action happening right now, today. 649 \ 01:15:55.100 --> 01:16:05.689 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We applied this in my last parish, and persuaded the council to donate a piece of land, a couple hectares of land, and then we held a 650 \ 01:16:05.820 --> 01:16:17.659 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: meeting in the village hall and said, why don't you all come and tell us what to do with this land? And in a village of, 700 people, we got 125 turnout, which we thought was pretty good. 651 \ 01:16:17.780 --> 01:16:27.950 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We asked them to tell us what they wanted to do with the land, and then we sorted it out so that those things happened, and then the volunteers came out of the woodwork like crazy. 652 \ 01:16:28.070 --> 01:16:31.199 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Well, particularly useful if you get children involved. 653 \ 01:16:31.280 --> 01:16:49.560 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And once you start planting trees and hedgerows and bug hotels and ponds, and then everything goes smoothly from then on, we really saw it was a fantastic, turnout of people. So if you want to overcome the reluctance of everyone to get involved, involve nature. 654 \ 01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:53.900 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Thank you very much. That's very good. Good advice. Steve! 655 \ 01:16:54.220 --> 01:17:08.649 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, I think another way of involving people is through festivals and public events. I know it's an urban context. We've done a few in Norwich, which I'm sure the Community Governance Project. Last year, I'm doing another one this year, which is kind of celebrating the 656 \ 01:17:08.670 --> 01:17:14.730 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The various community gardens exist, which could be at very small street level, as well as park size. 657 \ 01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:23.139 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: setups. So, another great approach, particularly perhaps for smaller parishes, is clustering, getting together with other parishes nearby. 658 \ 01:17:23.570 --> 01:17:37.979 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: people can work together about issues, certainly in terms of flood management. Flood waters have no respect to parish… town council boundaries. Wildlife have no respect to town or parish council boundaries. There's all kinds of things that we might do. 659 \ 01:17:38.340 --> 01:17:56.789 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Particularly highlighted here that the Joint Energy Community Energy Project, which has already been mentioned once. People can get together and develop, a community energy scheme. There's a big picture there of a big wind turbine built in 2013, Gammon Gain in Cambridgeshire. 660 \ 01:17:56.860 --> 01:18:10.500 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: It's been, as you can see, a lot of people are involved, it's been very successful, and it's now, as well as providing energy, it's generating, something like £10,000 a year for the parish to be spending on, community projects. 661 \ 01:18:11.430 --> 01:18:29.130 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: People say, what are the powers and duties we have as local, town, and parish councils? Well, there are lots of things that we can do, which we not always be aware of. We know we have a duty to provide allotments. People ask them. That's a statutory duty going back over 100 years. We know we have to consider biodiversity in everything that we do. 662 \ 01:18:29.190 --> 01:18:40.469 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We also have a duty to hold an annual parish meeting. May not be quite well known, but that is something that's very worthwhile in getting people engaged. So those are the duties that we have to do, but they have powers that we can use. 663 \ 01:18:40.470 --> 01:18:51.609 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Now, the power I like most is the one at the top, up right there, Section 101 of the Good Old Local Government Act 1972. We can work with high-level councils on their responsibilities and duties. 664 \ 01:18:51.810 --> 01:19:04.899 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, even though we don't have the power of competence doing everything we might like in our own… under our own aegis, we can actually, with their involvement, of course, work on whatever the district, counties, and unities are doing as well. 665 \ 01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:15.839 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Funding is another issue that comes up regularly in terms of doing things for climate action and nature recovery. There are some fundings that we can have under our own control. 666 \ 01:19:15.940 --> 01:19:20.379 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: As we know, the Section 137 funding, we have to create 667 \ 01:19:20.450 --> 01:19:29.580 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The funding within our own, annual precept, but we can spend up to £11.60 per elector in the current, coming financial year. 668 \ 01:19:29.580 --> 01:19:44.209 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And again, there's a link there to the Climate Action webpage for the SSCC, where we can see a lot more detail about the ways we can get money. I usually say, money can't find people, but people can find money. There are ways of finding and raising the money. 669 \ 01:19:44.270 --> 01:20:00.199 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That we can deliver service to. So, as you were talking about the wind turbine in Gambling Gay, that was raised, the money for that, locally, with share options, to invest in the company, and it was entirely funded by local residents. 670 \ 01:20:00.340 --> 01:20:13.669 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And local businesses. So, it's a really successful way of… of raising funding. And if there's a… if there's a project that, local businesses and local residents can really get behind and see the benefit of, obviously then 671 \ 01:20:13.670 --> 01:20:26.170 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I've been told that, money isn't the, the, the reason not to do something. You can get hold of the money if the idea is good enough, and you can engage enough people in the, in the approach. 672 \ 01:20:27.090 --> 01:20:30.090 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So I'm just going to summarize what we've been talking about today. 673 \ 01:20:30.290 --> 01:20:43.849 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: If we've got an issue, particularly if we've seen the National Natural Briefing Firm and want to know what to do next, look around your local area, see what facilities, what opportunities there may be, connect with local people. 674 \ 01:20:43.850 --> 01:20:50.749 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Net with community groups, community, representatives, maybe schools as well, churches, whatever, or sports clubs. 675 \ 01:20:51.160 --> 01:21:08.900 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Gather any local evidence for things that might need to be doing, and ideas for the future that might happen. Make a declaration there. We don't necessarily have to declare a climate emergency, but if we let people know that things are happening in our parish and in our town, that is quite important that people can understand that, latch onto it, maybe more people come forward. 676 \ 01:21:09.250 --> 01:21:16.369 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Start with something simple, we don't have to start with anything very complicated. It's good to start with some simple stuff, the main thing is to make a start. 677 \ 01:21:16.670 --> 01:21:28.510 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Be critical about planning applications. If planning applications come forward, then, we, need to be careful about what they are, and say some things about that, and just generally work in partnership as we're going through. 678 \ 01:21:28.930 --> 01:21:30.249 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Looking up, so… 679 \ 01:21:31.230 --> 01:21:38.890 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, there are some various bits of advice and guidance we can get hold of after the meeting. Again, these links will be sent round. 680 \ 01:21:39.230 --> 01:21:43.870 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Community Energy, at the top of the page, Wildlife Trust for Natural Community. 681 \ 01:21:43.940 --> 01:21:53.569 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Great collaboration that is ourselves. We have a website, we have a developing knowledge base of good practice, we have weekly sessions on a Wednesday midday to talk about particular topics. 682 \ 01:21:53.580 --> 01:22:04.100 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And we're supporting county forums at a county-wide basis for people to get together and exchange information and ideas. So there's lots of advice out there. 683 \ 01:22:04.290 --> 01:22:07.340 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Lots of support that's available. We don't have to do it all right. 684 \ 01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:20.399 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And if you would like to get in touch with us particularly, we'd be delighted to hear from you. There's our email address, hello at greatcollaboration.uk, and we're very happy to help people in any way, shape, or form. 685 \ 01:22:26.240 --> 01:22:27.460 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: There it is. 686 \ 01:22:28.500 --> 01:22:30.760 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Got there in the end, anyway. 687 \ 01:22:31.980 --> 01:22:42.670 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So I think that that's, again, I mean, Rick Casale has left the meeting just now, but that's, really about what we were saying about the community action side, as opposed to the 688 \ 01:22:43.020 --> 01:22:56.249 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: politically lobbying side of things. We actually did a recording of the whole of that Zoom session, so people can actually have a choice of seeing, you know, that sort of 10 and a half minute version. 689 \ 01:22:56.590 --> 01:23:02.169 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: or if they wanted to see the whole thing, they can as well, which has obviously got more information in it. 690 \ 01:23:02.500 --> 01:23:04.060 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But what do you think, guys? 691 \ 01:23:04.420 --> 01:23:05.410 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yeah, it's good. 692 \ 01:23:05.550 --> 01:23:06.350 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Nope. 693 \ 01:23:06.530 --> 01:23:11.179 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): And where will that be available? Is that available on your website, or something? 694 \ 01:23:11.180 --> 01:23:24.060 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, it's now just been made available, it's just being posted on our YouTube channel. I've just got the link from that from Graham this morning, so I can put that in the chat. 695 \ 01:23:24.940 --> 01:23:26.370 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Here we are. 696 \ 01:23:27.120 --> 01:23:33.099 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: As I say, the plan is to have 697 \ 01:23:34.010 --> 01:23:45.830 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I don't know when and whether the National Emergency Briefing Team are going to produce their own X Steps Guide or what's going to be in it. So I've been waiting a little bit until… well, certainly until after this meeting. 698 \ 01:23:46.260 --> 01:23:48.430 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But looking at also at the, 699 \ 01:23:48.610 --> 01:23:52.590 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: What they themselves are producing, so that we can sort of 700 \ 01:23:52.780 --> 01:23:57.400 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: dovetail with that. But if it gets to a certain point, you know, the film is out there, it's being shown. 701 \ 01:23:57.820 --> 01:24:02.269 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We do need to share the, share the joy as soon as we can. 702 \ 01:24:02.410 --> 01:24:08.009 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So that's now available on our own YouTube channel, but as sending out out… 703 \ 01:24:08.440 --> 01:24:21.999 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We'll be sending out via, county offices of county associations, of local councils, and… but also sending out through society local council clerks to the parish clerk membership. 704 \ 01:24:22.520 --> 01:24:25.079 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So that will be available out there. 705 \ 01:24:26.030 --> 01:24:32.520 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And, Alan, obviously, we're busy looking at, in, in… 706 \ 01:24:32.680 --> 01:24:47.190 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: bringing the Save Our Shropshire impetition website into the SLCC fold, and there'll be all elements of what we've been talking about today on what they're thinking of. They're calling it SLCCE, 707 \ 01:24:48.380 --> 01:25:03.860 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I know, it wasn't my decision. But there we go. Alan and his colleagues were instrumental in putting together Save Our Shropshire as an initiative some while ago, but now handing the battle over to SLCC. 708 \ 01:25:05.630 --> 01:25:06.640 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Whoa. 709 \ 01:25:06.980 --> 01:25:16.469 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I've made lots of notes, and we've had some great ideas here. I've got a couple of bits of briefing papers to go out with that film we've already… we've just seen. 710 \ 01:25:16.590 --> 01:25:19.309 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And I'll add in some points that have been made from today. 711 \ 01:25:19.430 --> 01:25:25.929 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And as I say, it's great that, David, that you and Sheila were able to be here, that had actually seen the film. 712 \ 01:25:26.240 --> 01:25:29.010 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: And we'll see where we go from there. 713 \ 01:25:29.210 --> 01:25:31.079 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, we're not, we're not, 714 \ 01:25:31.580 --> 01:25:37.450 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We're not downgrading the need to speak to their MPs or speak to government, but we do need to do our own stuff, as well. 715 \ 01:25:38.900 --> 01:25:40.369 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: You need to act local. 716 \ 01:25:40.370 --> 01:25:41.080 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah. 717 \ 01:25:41.630 --> 01:25:42.740 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Great stuff. 718 \ 01:25:42.940 --> 01:25:46.670 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Thank you very much. Any more from you today, Alan? 719 \ 01:25:47.090 --> 01:25:47.850 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: You also… 720 \ 01:25:47.850 --> 01:25:52.010 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: So, I think I've done enough damage at the very beginning, thank you very much. 721 \ 01:25:52.350 --> 01:25:56.420 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): How do we get on your mailing list? Shall I send you an email or something like that? 722 \ 01:25:56.420 --> 01:26:12.259 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Now, by all means, Sean, if you want to put that in the chat, what… Graham keeps a list of all the people that have attended these screenings, so you should be able to get the… you should be getting the notice of future midday sessions. 723 \ 01:26:12.400 --> 01:26:25.820 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: after day, in any case, and of course, you've been in touch with my colleague Jules in terms of working Wendover, but by all means, send it across so that we make sure that you're encouraged. I have spoken to Mel, who's your county officer for Buckinghamshire and Milton Keynes, about. 724 \ 01:26:25.820 --> 01:26:26.340 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): active. 725 \ 01:26:26.340 --> 01:26:34.579 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: establishing a, a countywide forum for Buckinghamshire. We've done that successfully for Isaacs and Norfolk already. 726 \ 01:26:34.700 --> 01:26:37.500 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, that would be… 727 \ 01:26:37.610 --> 01:26:50.089 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: partly about in-person meetings, a lot about online meetings, but also having a… using the… an online piece of software called Hilo, which allows people to share ideas in between meetings, and Jill's probably mentioned that to you when he… when he saw you. 728 \ 01:26:50.800 --> 01:26:51.350 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay. 729 \ 01:26:51.350 --> 01:26:53.630 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): We can push from underneath to. 730 \ 01:26:53.630 --> 01:26:56.049 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: That's it, that's it. 731 \ 01:26:56.050 --> 01:26:57.190 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): It's become a nuisance. 732 \ 01:26:57.420 --> 01:27:06.889 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, I always thought there's two levels. There's sort of horizontal stuff where we work with people around us, but then vertically we need to push up through high-level authorities all the way to government, absolutely. 733 \ 01:27:06.890 --> 01:27:07.420 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Nope. 734 \ 01:27:07.420 --> 01:27:08.180 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay. 735 \ 01:27:08.180 --> 01:27:24.380 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Drew, just before we go, I'd just like to pass on to Alistair that the fact is, I think the farming fraternity is up for a renaissance, because we're going to have to start to pull together, like it was in World War II, to actually be sustainable in this country, because. 736 \ 01:27:24.380 --> 01:27:24.800 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Huh. 737 \ 01:27:24.800 --> 01:27:29.620 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: We can't rely on other people elsewhere to supply our food. 738 \ 01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:31.690 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yeah, definitely. 739 \ 01:27:31.690 --> 01:27:33.359 \ Alastair boyd: I'm glad you appreciate that. 740 \ 01:27:33.580 --> 01:27:34.070 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But, man. 741 \ 01:27:34.070 --> 01:27:34.760 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: opening. 742 \ 01:27:35.710 --> 01:27:38.130 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yes, ding for victory as well. Yeah, there we are. 743 \ 01:27:38.130 --> 01:27:38.540 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: close. 744 \ 01:27:38.540 --> 01:27:42.389 \ Alastair boyd: Also, we hadn't mentioned about water, which is down here we've had. 745 \ 01:27:42.390 --> 01:27:42.710 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yep. 746 \ 01:27:42.710 --> 01:27:55.390 \ Alastair boyd: Yeah, a lot of cuts back, and a lot of areas where thousands of people have been going on bottled water. And, yeah, that's another thing that's a serious job, but anyway, right. Thank you very much for your help and your… 747 \ 01:27:55.390 --> 01:28:14.499 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): If I can just add one thing on that, I mean, if you can rope in your local water company, we're working with Thames to make a natural reserve on one of their disused sites, and that's kind of binding them in again, because they're not going to do anything that makes them look bad if they've already promised to do something. 748 \ 01:28:14.670 --> 01:28:15.090 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right. 749 \ 01:28:15.500 --> 01:28:17.199 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): It's a bit… it's a bit, sort of. 750 \ 01:28:17.890 --> 01:28:20.819 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Twisting people's arms to get them to do something. 751 \ 01:28:20.970 --> 01:28:23.380 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Look, Thames already look a bit bad, don't they? 752 \ 01:28:23.380 --> 01:28:30.239 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yeah, yeah, they look terrible, so anything that can make them look a little bit better is… they're quite helpful. 753 \ 01:28:30.240 --> 01:28:36.930 \ Alastair boyd: Most of our water comes from aquitas, and they're only now starting to talk about building reservoirs, so… 754 \ 01:28:37.060 --> 01:28:42.320 \ Alastair boyd: They've got years to go. They should have done things 20 years ago, and they haven't. 755 \ 01:28:43.050 --> 01:28:44.729 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: What part of the country are you from, Alastair? 756 \ 01:28:44.730 --> 01:28:45.889 \ Alastair boyd: Ashford, Kent. 757 \ 01:28:46.130 --> 01:28:46.900 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Okay, good. 758 \ 01:28:46.900 --> 01:28:47.530 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Yeah. 759 \ 01:28:47.530 --> 01:28:51.720 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): We're chalk around here, so the water just… flows away. 760 \ 01:28:51.720 --> 01:28:52.310 \ Alastair boyd: Yep. 761 \ 01:28:52.750 --> 01:29:01.520 \ Alastair boyd: Well, they built a motorway through us, and they, dropped the water table down by 7 meters. Really? Some of the old pumps are out of the water in summertime. 762 \ 01:29:02.510 --> 01:29:03.620 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Just, just do it. 763 \ 01:29:03.620 --> 01:29:04.220 \ Alastair boyd: That's… 764 \ 01:29:04.440 --> 01:29:19.120 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Just to add to that point, so you're aware, our local village is, one of the pumping stations on the aquifer for the big conurbation of Telford, and they've just gone and dropped our local pump another 30 meters. 765 \ 01:29:19.280 --> 01:29:24.509 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: They've sleeved it a further 30 meters deep into the aquifer. 766 \ 01:29:24.620 --> 01:29:26.969 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: That's… that's how desperate they're getting. 767 \ 01:29:27.390 --> 01:29:30.250 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): HS2's done something similar here as well, so… 768 \ 01:29:30.740 --> 01:29:34.280 \ Alastair boyd: Well, we had a mile of the HS1 through us, so… 769 \ 01:29:34.280 --> 01:29:35.079 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yeah, yeah, yeah. 770 \ 01:29:35.080 --> 01:29:41.260 \ Alastair boyd: That's where… that's where the water went the first time. We had them come 21st as well. 771 \ 01:29:41.590 --> 01:29:45.120 \ Alastair boyd: Just adjacent to the thing, they took the water down as well, so… 772 \ 01:29:45.390 --> 01:29:48.919 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yeah, it's… yes, their modeling does not work. 773 \ 01:29:48.920 --> 01:29:49.590 \ Alastair boyd: Hmm. 774 \ 01:29:50.590 --> 01:29:51.680 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Anyway, brilliant. 775 \ 01:29:51.680 --> 01:29:52.450 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah. 776 \ 01:29:52.450 --> 01:29:56.379 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Are you doing another one of these shortly, or… 777 \ 01:29:56.540 --> 01:30:13.410 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The… there's going to be, the SLCC are putting on a webinar on this, on May the 12th, which you also get to hear my dose it turns on, so that would be the next thing. Yeah, this one's going to run and run, isn't it? Because there are people who've been… 778 \ 01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:27.580 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: There are people at the moment, and then they don't even know of the film, let alone that they're going to see it. And, so Sam, I've been reaching out, particularly through, Durham Parish Councils. There will… there are other 779 \ 01:30:27.860 --> 01:30:34.040 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: I haven't spoken to Friends of the Earth lately, for example, but one of the things I might do is, 780 \ 01:30:34.290 --> 01:30:38.659 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: The screening map tells us 781 \ 01:30:39.270 --> 01:30:45.699 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: who are doing these screenings. I'm just making a note to myself. Maybe I should be sending stuff to those people as well. 782 \ 01:30:45.700 --> 01:30:51.269 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yeah, yeah. Chiltern Society, National Trust, all of them. Yes. 783 \ 01:30:52.030 --> 01:30:54.490 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Yeah, they can run, but they can't hide, yeah. 784 \ 01:30:55.680 --> 01:30:57.600 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Any more thoughts from you today, Alistair? 785 \ 01:30:57.600 --> 01:30:58.340 \ Alastair boyd: No, thank you. 786 \ 01:30:59.390 --> 01:31:03.119 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We're doing well. Stuart, any thoughts today? You've been very quiet, but . 787 \ 01:31:03.120 --> 01:31:06.300 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: No, I've been very quietly listening to everyone. 788 \ 01:31:07.130 --> 01:31:10.620 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: It's been a great… we've had a great group of people today. Thank you so much. 789 \ 01:31:10.620 --> 01:31:16.269 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: As I keep saying, I think we do need to have more sessions on farming and agriculture. 790 \ 01:31:16.270 --> 01:31:16.860 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Yep. 791 \ 01:31:17.410 --> 01:31:18.580 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Right, yeah. 792 \ 01:31:18.770 --> 01:31:30.139 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): we can get some… I know there are lots of different views on the different farming approaches, but we've got some farmers around here with very strong views that. 793 \ 01:31:30.140 --> 01:31:30.460 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Oops. 794 \ 01:31:30.460 --> 01:31:32.930 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Or they'd be happy to give up a little bit of time. 795 \ 01:31:33.910 --> 01:31:39.709 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Alistair, would you… would you and or your son happy to lead one of these discussions, or would you rather. 796 \ 01:31:39.710 --> 01:31:43.779 \ Alastair boyd: Well, I'm not a big farmer, I'm not a big talker, but 797 \ 01:31:44.230 --> 01:31:47.080 \ Alastair boyd: I can contribute a bit, but… 798 \ 01:31:47.080 --> 01:31:50.009 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: But if you come along and be in the audience, then, that would be soundable. 799 \ 01:31:50.010 --> 01:31:50.550 \ Alastair boyd: Yeah. 800 \ 01:31:51.510 --> 01:31:53.940 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Good. Yes, Sean, if there's any, 801 \ 01:31:54.000 --> 01:32:13.239 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: any people… I mean, if Graeme was here, he'd be saying this. Any people you know that would like to do that, because I think food security and farming finally beginning to rise up the national agenda. The National Lottery, who do a climate action fund, their latest iteration is about food security. 802 \ 01:32:13.240 --> 01:32:15.059 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Grid security, yes, yes. 803 \ 01:32:15.060 --> 01:32:26.269 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: So, the lottery has got the message, certainly. And as I say, I'm big on food, I eat it all the time. 804 \ 01:32:26.270 --> 01:32:27.890 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): I eat too much of it, I think. 805 \ 01:32:27.890 --> 01:32:36.940 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Well, there you go. There we are, yes. Thank you, gentlemen, for laughing at my jokes. It keeps me going for at least another week. 806 \ 01:32:36.940 --> 01:32:39.420 \ Allan Wilson Edgmond Shropshire: Say it again, Andrew. Bye-bye. 807 \ 01:32:39.420 --> 01:32:41.390 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Great occasion. 808 \ 01:32:41.390 --> 01:32:42.250 \ Sean McCarthy. Wendover Bucks (CLAW): Thank you, bye. 809 \ 01:32:42.250 --> 01:32:42.840 \ Cllr.Stuart Withington, Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: It's. 810 \ 01:32:43.330 --> 01:32:44.180 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Push it out. 811 \ 01:32:44.750 --> 01:32:45.830 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Great stuff. 812 \ 01:32:47.230 --> 01:32:49.819 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: Wow, what a session, that rude. 813 \ 01:32:52.310 --> 01:32:53.410 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: What's a sheet. 814 \ 01:32:56.140 --> 01:32:59.619 \ Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration: We'll catch up soon, Alan. 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